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</div><h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Alright_I.27ve_gone_over_the_.2Fv.2F_.2Fhis.2F_game_complete_with_the_logs_that_the_.2Fv.2F_ma">Alright I've gone over the /v/ /his/ game complete with the logs that the /v/ ma</span><a href="_ma#/editor/1" title="Edit section: Alright I've gone over the /v/ /his/ game complete with the logs that the /v/ ma" data-section="1" class="edit-page icon icon-32px icon-edit enabled">Edit</a></h3><div>
<div dir="ltr" class="mw-geshi mw-code mw-content-ltr"><div class="gettext source-gettext">&#160;<br />Alright I've gone over the /v/ /his/ game complete with the logs that the /v/ manager sent to Hessen during the game and this summarizes the basics of the mess as I see it:<br />Pregame: Sillius asked for the first two presets for /u/ to be copied so that they were the third preset with different sliders on each, Hessen did not do this <span class="br0">&#40;</span>/v/'s instructions were actually illegal regarding copying presets<span class="br0">&#41;</span> and as such he opted to start on preset <span class="nu0">3</span> as a compromise.<br /><br />Halftime: Okay this is where things get bad, the score is currently <span class="nu0">1</span>-<span class="nu0">1</span>.<br /><br />Sillius calls for preset <span class="nu0">3</span> to be copied onto preset <span class="nu0">2</span>, Hessen does this, then makes changes to the sliders on this preset.<br /><br />At this point there is confusion because Hessen is asking Sillius questions over the stream's audio and Sillius is answering over text, now even when there's a rigcam the streamer in my experience usually tries to confirm over text to avoid this issue but did not and as such he got confused by the delay involved.<br /><br />Up until this point Sillius has okayed every single action by Hessen according to the IRC logs of the instructions.<br /><br />Sillius calls for the same to be done for preset <span class="nu0">1</span> and Hessen tells him to go fuck himself and starts the half and puts /u/ on preset <span class="nu0">2</span>.<br /><br />At this point I will point to the rules and look under chapter five, rule <span class="nu0">3</span>-<span class="nu0">7</span>-<span class="nu0">8</span>. During a timeout a team is allowed to change one of their formations, and changing more than one will cost an extra timeout. /v/ at this point had zero non-free timeouts because they lost them due to submitting an export with a player who was <span class="nu0">210</span> cm.<br /><br />Now Hessen handled this very poorly and at this point was fairly obviously frustrated, and was taking out his frustrations on Sillius, but it was a change that Sillius was not supposed to be allowed to make anyway. That said, they should not have been started on preset <span class="nu0">2</span> as that was not instructed anywhere Hessen just put them on the preset that they listed changes for.<br /><br />So what I see Sillius as trying to do was to set up all three presets with the same formation so that he could effectively change the sliders of his third preset as he saw fit without costing a timeout that he didn't have, as changing presets doesn't cost a timeout but changing sliders does.<br /><br />Now Sillius wants to simply put sliders on the preset he set up but Hessen says he is putting his foot down and not letting him. Boris implores him to allow sliders.<br /><br />Now Sillius wants to go to preset <span class="nu0">3</span> as a compromise because /v/ have been moved to preset <span class="nu0">1</span> and Hessen refuses, saying it is gone as it has been copied away. <span class="br0">&#40;</span>???<span class="br0">&#41;</span><br /><br />At this point Hessen says that Lear <span class="br0">&#40;</span>hey that's me<span class="br0">&#41;</span> is telling him they don't have a timeout, I said this because I was at that point under the impression that the instructions had been followed for the preset to be used <span class="br0">&#40;</span>which I thought was <span class="nu0">2</span> based on the stream<span class="br0">&#41;</span>, and that the game had continued and Sillius had called for more changes.<br /><br />Then /his/ takes the lead, <span class="nu0">2</span>-<span class="nu0">1</span>.<br /><br />/v/ then get a concession timeout, and Boris notes correctly that they can change ONE preset.<br /><br />Sillius asks to see preset <span class="nu0">3</span> and is refused by Hessen.<br /><br />Sillius says &quot;just go&quot; and Hessen resumes the game.<br /><br /><span class="nu0">3</span>-<span class="nu0">1</span>.<br /><br />Yet more bullshit happens and Hessen actually rigs it by accidentally overwriting presets in the wrong direction, /v/ move to preset <span class="nu0">3</span> with slider changes.<br /><br /><span class="nu0">4</span>-<span class="nu0">1</span>.<br /><br /><br /><br />So yeah shit kind of got out of hand. Hessen was bad this game, not understanding the functions of PES, and being rude to the manager. The /v/ manager's changes were obtuse and he should not have been asking to change multiple presets at the times he did but Hessen should have made himself familiar enough with the tactical rules <span class="br0">&#40;</span>both as a manager and as a streamer<span class="br0">&#41;</span> to make all of this a non-issue.<br /><br />My condolences to /v/ fans but despite the rigging this is just kind of how it is.<br /><br />All that said Hessen does need to man up and accept the fact that he did fuck up pretty hard on this game.</div></div>




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