Title: Trying to convince Commissar Brian. Author: heidi666 Pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/4Y578yFW First Edit: Sunday 4th of August 2013 06:00:15 PM CDT Last Edit: Sunday 4th of August 2013 06:00:15 PM CDT 00:21   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       since you won't send me one, I will send you one. 00:21   heidiland       Right. 00:21   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       I know bronies IRL, and I see the way the act 00:21   heidiland       What exactly is your point? 00:21   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       it's an unhealthy obsession 00:21   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       and there is no reason for it 00:21   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       I am arguing to find a reason 00:22   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       Last semester in college I had to do a group project in a State and Local Politics class 00:22   heidiland       I agree. SOME people have an unhealthy obsession with it. Just as some people have an unhealthy obsession for anime, or for games, or for any other type of thing 00:22   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       My partner was a brony 00:22   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       he never met up with me 00:22   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       We would always be in the same places though 00:23   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       He wouldn't even attempt to talk to me, and I would even try to talk to him 00:23   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       I called and texted him several time 00:23   heidiland       So you're extrapolating for an entire demographic of people based on your personal experiences with a socially awkward guy. 00:23   heidiland       Great 00:23   heidiland       Not stereotypical at all 00:23   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       He would just sit in the library or the cafeteria and watch mlp videos 00:23   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       I failed that fucking project because of him 00:23   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       Also, like I said 00:23   heidiland       I'm sorry for you 00:23   heidiland       But I'm not seeing the relevance 00:23   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       My best friend's girlfriend 00:23   heidiland       Sure, he was a douchebag 00:24   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       buys into a brony facebook 00:24   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       My ex-girlfriends friends 00:24   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       are bronies who do meth 00:24   heidiland       And there are people who buy into a fetish facebook, or a uniform facebook 00:24   heidiland       All of what you said applies to so many groups of people. 00:24   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       fetishes at least get you off though 00:25   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       there is some logicality behind an orgasm 00:25   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       you can make a point 00:25   heidiland       Ok, bad analogy. 00:25   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       there is none with a brony facebook 00:25   heidiland       There are classical music facebooks and the like 00:25   heidiland       It's a common interest meeting point 00:25   heidiland       Now let's get this straight 00:25   heidiland       I dislike the idea personally 00:25   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       you can make a career out of classical music though 00:25   heidiland       But I'm not condemning it out of principle 00:26   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       there is a point, if not a potential point 00:26   heidiland       Fine, I can pick all sorts of different interests that have a social or otherwise dating scene behind them 00:26   heidiland       The fact remains that this is still not relevant to 'bronies' 00:26   heidiland       There is, by now, a rather large demographic of people who watch /mlp/. 00:27   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       There is close to no analogy you can give for a brony 00:27   heidiland       This is fact 00:27   heidiland       You are providing examples of embarassing things to be sure 00:27   heidiland       But what if i told you I was a completely normal guy 00:27   heidiland       I go out with friends 00:27   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       embarrassing things? 00:27   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       I wouldn't doubt it 00:27   heidiland       I have no pony merchandise 00:27   heidiland       I don't spout brony memes 00:27   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       Once again, I wouldn't doubt it 00:28   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       I doubt Kirino has a bunch of anime merchandise 00:28   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       in fact, I know he doesn't 00:28   heidiland       You couldn't tell by looking at me that I like /mlp/. 00:28   heidiland       This is true for the majority of people in my alliance 00:28   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       You wouldn't be able to tell with Kirino's anime obsession either 00:28   heidiland       I know, because we come from /mlp/. 00:28   heidiland       Kirino already posts anime all over the forums 00:28   heidiland       We don't even do that. 00:29   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       You are trying to justify this like someone justifies homosexuality 00:29   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       "we are normal people" 00:29   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       "we don't spout homosexuality everywhere" 00:29   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       "We don't wear skimpy outfits or own stereotypically homosexual items" 00:30   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       You are defending it like it's a lifestyle 00:30   heidiland       You say that like you expect homosexuality has to be justified. 00:30   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       a major life choice, like homosexuality 00:30   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       It is justified 00:30   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       You are attracted to the same sex 00:30   heidiland       No, ok, let me get this straight, possibly without interruptions. 00:30   heidiland       Ok? 00:30   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       You don't feel the feelings with the opposite sex that you do with the same sex 00:31   heidiland       Right. 00:31   heidiland       Now, I can understand people being annoyed with us 00:31   heidiland       Genuinely, I do. 00:31   heidiland       I get it all the time back on /mlp/. 00:32   heidiland       The only argument aside from 'wah stop liking what I don't like' or 'I just don't get the appeal' for being against 'bronies' is that they fling their shit in everyone's faces. 00:32   heidiland       Which is perfectly understandable 00:32   heidiland       And my response to that is, we are not the kind of people to do that in the first place. 00:33   heidiland       Beyond that, it's not my call to make 00:33   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       I'm not a morally strong person 00:33   heidiland       Like I said 00:33   heidiland       I'm not the kind of person who shoves it in someone's face 00:33   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       I am okay with homosexuality, in fact I encourage people to be who they are. 00:33   heidiland       If you want to watch it, fine 00:33   heidiland       If not, then don't 00:33   heidiland       For me it's not an issue. 00:34   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       Bronies are something that my small moral compass points against completely 00:34   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       Every sense in me says that it is wrong 00:34   heidiland       And that's your prerogative, based on your interactions with a small set of them 00:34   heidiland       Regrettable, but understandable 00:34   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       No one has tried to convince me otherwise 00:34   heidiland       If you keep it to yourself that is 00:35   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       They just say "h8ters gon h8 hurr hurr" 00:35   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       which doesn't help matters at all 00:35   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       If you could provide some reason behind all this, maybe I can begin to understand it 00:36   heidiland       Now I'm genuinely confused as to what you expect me to do 00:36   heidiland       Explain why I like the show? 00:36   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       I just said it directly 00:36   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       Explain to me why you and the people on /mlp/ do what you do. 00:36   heidiland       You want to give me a reason as to why bronies shouldn't point against your moral compass, is what I got from a literal reading 00:37   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       Kind of like how a homosexual would say, I'm not attracted to women, or I was molested as a child therefore I am this way. 00:37   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       Pretty much 00:37   heidiland       I don't see how I can do that 00:37   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       Convince my moral compass to stop point away 00:37   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       You can start by giving justifications to your actions 00:37   heidiland       Well ok then. Why not. 00:38   heidiland       I got into the show about a year and a half ago 00:38   heidiland       I played tf2 00:38   heidiland       I started seeing pony sprays 00:38   heidiland       Then pony videos off Youtube 00:38   heidiland       I watched a couple 00:38   heidiland       In particular there was a growing shitstorm on the 4chan board /co/. 00:39   heidiland       Many people had started watching it there, as that's the most relevant board to it 00:39   heidiland       However, it got pretty popular and the other /co/ people started bitching about how many threads MLP was taking up 00:40   heidiland       This wasn't helped by the complete inability of 4chan to self-moderate and consequently they got into a rage whenever a pony picture came up 00:40   heidiland       So the trolls on /b/ had found their new weapon, and started spamming it everywhere 00:40   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       Where's your thesis 00:40   heidiland       Getting there. 00:41   heidiland       I saw all this and I thought 'why not, I'll give it a watch'. 00:41   heidiland       I was at university at the time 00:41   heidiland       Room to myself 00:41   heidiland       I watched the first series 00:41   heidiland       And it was pretty catchy 00:41   heidiland       Why? 00:41   heidiland       I can't explain 00:41   heidiland       Perhaps it's the good voice acting 00:41   heidiland       Or the animations 00:41   heidiland       Or the personalities of the characters 00:42   heidiland       I couldn't tell you 00:42   heidiland       Eventually /mlp/ was born because all of 4chan was getting butthurt at the trolls spamming pony everywhere 00:42   heidiland       By this point other pony sites had popped up 00:43   heidiland       Ponychan 00:43   heidiland       Equestria Daily and the like 00:43   heidiland       Cons were being organised 00:43   heidiland       Etc etc. 00:43   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       Is this something that (if you had kids) you would tell your kids about? 00:43   heidiland       Sure, why not 00:43   heidiland       It's a cute cartoon 00:43   heidiland       It's for their demographic 00:43   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       not the cartoon 00:44   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       but you watching it as a college student 00:44   heidiland       Probably, yes 00:44   heidiland       I don't see the shame in it 00:44   CommissarBrian[Comintern]       this opens up a whole new realm of why's but I'll leave that for some other time 00:45   heidiland       It's important you understand this above all else though 00:45   heidiland       Yes, /mlp/ has it's fair share of 'autists', to be politically incorrect 00:46   heidiland       It's also true that the actions of these guys far outweigh the general passivity of most of us with regards to the show 00:46   heidiland       For most of us it's not an obsession 00:48   heidiland       I'm genuinely sorry that you've had bad experiences with some people who watch MLP 00:48   heidiland       But to extend that to all of us is rather unfair