[02:29] I've been reading and watching about money-less societies [02:29] I find it impressive how sound and simple it actually is [02:29] (/me can hear the murricans going "communism! booo!") [02:30] actually, i'm talking about real money-less societies [02:31] Barter Systems tend to break down when you don't have anything anyone wants. I remember an example about Skate Keys [02:31] well, from what I know, we didn't use money for the largest part of our existence on this planet [02:32] but implementing that concept in a modern society could be interesting [02:32] because money just doesn't work [02:32] it's just a factor of inequality [02:32] most people didnt lived past 40 years old for the largest part of our existence on this planet [02:32] it was needed in the old world but maybe that now we can get rid of i [02:32] t [02:32] Can't say I agree [02:32] and, Eggfaglord_The_fourth? [02:33] the main problem with money is that it doesn't die [02:33] Strange name, but he certainly has a point [02:33] Money exist for the reason that you can trade for goods without having THE specific thing the other party wants [02:33] it means that one can stack as much as he wants, and keep way more than he needs [02:33] ie: you raise chiken, thus have lots of eggs [02:33] but you want a bed [02:33] with that system only inequalities and misery can happen [02:33] and? [02:33] but the bedmaker wants cheese instead [02:33] what do? [02:33] Exactly [02:34] it's just not about trading one thing against another [02:34] "Oh but you go on a quest to aquire cheese" [02:34] but contributing alltogether for the society to work [02:34] hence, the egg maker would produce enough for all, so would do the bed maker [02:35] Hate to say it, but that's kind of counter to human nature [02:35] ^ [02:35] it is counter to capitalist society [02:35] thats assuming EVERYONE is good with good intensions [02:35] human nature was never about money [02:35] that's the crap society feeds you with [02:35] you can't even picture a world without money [02:35] Not to mention, raising chickens and manufacturing beds require different skills, different materials and different amounts of time [02:35] that's how bad it has gone [02:35] and that's why you can buy and sale everything, from objects to human beings [02:36] yeah and? contributing equally is not a problem [02:36] Everything has value. Not everything has the same value [02:36] you don't get it because you think about working individually [02:36] look [02:36] hey Aura [02:37] 1/3 of the food the planet produces is dumped [02:37] go to some african country [02:37] where there is no money [02:37] it really is [02:37] becauseit couldn't be sold [02:37] they have an happy life [02:37] or get shot [02:37] how fucked is that? [02:37] who knows? [02:37] wut [02:38] we all know we have enough food to end starvation in the world [02:38] we do [02:38] we also have cure for ebola [02:38] but we don't give a fuck until it happens to us [02:38] but niggers fight and flee medicals [02:38] or kill them [02:38] a vaccine, but whatevs [02:38] fact is [02:38] I don't think it's that simple [02:38] it is not [02:39] from the moment that youa ccept that some starve to death, it means you accept it can happen to you too [02:39] It could [02:39] that's what's fucked up [02:39] so [02:39] But I've worked hard to acheived what I have. And I'm not starving [02:39] by being afraid of your own starvation [02:39] because you were given the chance to [02:39] you'd bitch about it on the internet? [02:39] it's not just about working ahrd [02:39] By fate and luck [02:40] huh [02:40] it's not about bitching about it on the internets [02:40] we're talking [02:40] I'm grateful for where I was born and to whom I was born. I got lucky. Not all do. That's the way of the world [02:41] thats the whole extend of what you do about it [02:41] because, you, and mostly 70% of the world don't realise it is even possible [02:41] 'oh no money is bad' [02:41] (eats fresh food) [02:41] (spend money on fuel for car) [02:41] (spend money to get internet, electricity, heat) [02:41] 'money is so bad and you guys are BRAINWASHED' [02:42] go ahead, be the better person and take the next plane to Eboland [02:42] I'm talking about alternatives [02:42] and then live the real life [02:42] not telling you to burn your stuff [02:42] I lived the real life [02:42] and by the way [02:42] I've been dealing with life alone for 9 years [02:42] do you think I don't know how it is? [02:42] hundreds of thousands of people wont cooperate if there isnt a central core to them [02:42] do you think I'm not struggling? [02:43] I paid for my studies on my own [02:43] 'boo hoo I've been single for nine years I'm special' [02:43] welcome to normalcy faggot [02:43] oh god [02:43] your nothing but shitposting [02:43] you're nothing but shit [02:43] :^) [02:43] and I've only been peeking 5 minutes to confirm it [02:44] thread shitposter spotted [02:44] not talking with you [02:44] get muted [02:44] poor Duskie [02:44] the best thing is [02:45] I'm not even the one who argued with her earlier ------------------------------------------ I'm even worse~