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   Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)17:40:13 No.301231332  
Why is sex considered a positive thing, barring wanting to have children? I don't even want to go into the obvious risks such as STDs and unwanted pregnancy; I'm talking at a much more fundamental level. The drive for sexual intercourse is one of the most savage instincts we have, yet our culture seems obsessed with having it as much as possible and as superficially as possible. The main explanation for this is probably the backlash from centuries of religious dogma which was also obsessed with the act. On a conscious level I simply do not see the supposed allure of sex. I recognise the urge, like when I have to defecate, but the difference is that the latter isn't exactly optional. I will masturbate simply to keep the hormonal issues in check, but otherwise I find myself liberated from these primitive desires that apparently have become the raison d'etre of my generation. It saddens me.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)17:41:59 No.301231695
So, your a fucking faggot?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)17:43:15 No.301231917
>>301231695
No, I do not intend to engage in intercourse with persons of the same gender as myself either.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)17:43:51 No.301232040
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>>301231695
Y u so mad?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)17:44:28 No.301232191
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>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)17:47:23 No.301232800
OP has seen the light
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)17:48:32 No.301233043
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>>301231332
I think Dr. Been would have been more appropriate here you dumb ass virgin.
 
People are obsessed with it have have always been obsessed with it because its fucking awesome. Disliking the "primitive" parts of life doesn't make you anyless "primitive" it just makes you sad. Sex in and of its self has many therapeutic benefits and the endorphines released during the act with another person help to provide emotional stability to a relationship. For most people a stable relationship is a great way to relieve stress and gives them a basis to venture out into the world more confidently. I'm guessing your 17 at most you pathetic fool.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)17:50:57 No.301233594
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>>301233043
>He dislikes sex, he must be a teenager!
>mfw
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)17:52:18 No.301233878
I think I understand what you're getting at.
 
The thing is that in western world we're obsessed with sex, in a bad way. It's a natural part of our lives, same as eating, sleeping or working. But for some reason when it comes to sex people start behaving like stupid kids.
 
Maybe one day we will finally grow up and instead of glorifying it or treating it as a sin, we will understand that it's normal part of human life and that sex isn't the most important thing in the world.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)17:54:54 No.301234389
>>301233043
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, but I can understand the frustration of having one's imperfections put on display. You talk about relationships as if sex is necessary for those. First of all, disliking primitive things and endorsing sophistication does in fact elevate one beyond primitivism. Your failure to grasp simple logic is not a point that needs much elaboration. Secondly, you talk about relationships as if they necessarily entail sex. I take it you have sex with all of your friends, be they male or female, then? Thirdly, I don't need, as you suggest, a confidence boost from a bestial relationship based on a false pretense. I'm sure you do, though.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)17:56:44 No.301234793
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I... I can't even come up with a response to this stupid.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)17:59:51 No.301235488
sex is fun, but i'm not making threads on 4chan to proclaim the horrors of celibacy. live your life, op, let us live ours. the end.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)17:59:52 No.301235498
>>301234793
I might have an inkling why that is.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:01:46 No.301235922
Sex is the way the world works OP. It's "noble" of you to stand in opposition, but you aren't going to change anything. The futility of your efforts signifies to me that you may be dumber than you let on. Don't you have better things to do if you live such a great life?
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)18:02:01 No.301235976
>>301235488
Yes, norms have always been challenged by everyone staying silent. What a great sentiment.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:02:42 No.301236109
>>301234389
We have the means with which to negate the risks of sex. Their effectiveness will only improve upon time. As mammalian life it is our greatest drive to procreate. This doesn't mean strictly have children though. The drive is only to copulate. Procreation is a side-effect and we have separate drives for child-raising. To consider such a basic drive "primitive" and as such, something one should "rise above" is preposterous.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:02:45 No.301236120
>>301235976
ever consider that maybe we don't want to challenge the norm because we enjoy it?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:06:40 No.301236973
>>301234389
What you lack in reading comprehension you make up for in the art of bullshit, I'll concede that much. My point isn't that sex is necessary for relationships. Rather that in the current social construct there is an obsession with sex not only because of previous generation's elevation or characterization of it as a sin but also because of basic, innate, emotional consequences. My point is that people are obsessed with sex because it CAN play an important role in relationships. Furthermore, a stable relationship is something that gives people a relief from stress and by valuing these human connections the people in them can often become more productive and adventurous in the rest of their life. This is not to say that they do not cause stress ever, I am only offering what I consider to be an anecdotally, experience, and psychologically substantiated explanation for your question. I made the age inference based on that fact that your conclusion imply a total lack of that experience and so you are probably about 17.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)18:09:01 No.301237449
>>301236109
I dare say your reading skills leave something to be desired. I explicitly stated that I pay no attention to the risks in this argument. You say our "greatest drive" is to procreate by way of sexual intercourse; I have shown you that it is a savage and carnal desire. You say this is preposterous, but you give no reasons for why that is so.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:11:25 No.301237951
OP -"Why is sex considered a positive thing, barring wanting to have children?"
 
My response - go have sex. It's awesome and shit is why. Why else would people fuck like rabbits all the time? Fucking questions like... why do people do drugs? They're awesome and shit.
 
For anyone who says "There's no such thing as a stupid question"... the OP has proved you wrong.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:12:29 No.301238197
>The drive for sexual intercourse is one of the most savage instincts we have
And what, pray tell, is wrong with that?
 
If anything, this culture is too up on its high horse to realize that sex is natural.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)18:13:18 No.301238360
>>301236973
It can play an important role in relationships based on superficial premises. Are you saying that relationships between people who do not have sex with each other cannot be as meaningful? Your whole point becomes vapid nonsense once you realise that the sexual act itself is completely separable from what is truly meaningful in relationships.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:13:32 No.301238413
>>301234389
cont. As for the idea that we must reject "primitive" sex and rise to "sophistication." You fail to realize that "primitive" and "sophisticated" are completely relative terms subject to the whims of the individual and society.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:14:33 No.301238627
>>301237449
That's not preposterous, the preposterous thing here is that you're saying things are bad because of being savage/carnal.
Everything we do is at its base propelled by savage desires.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:15:45 No.301238892
>>301231332
 
Same here, it is annoying to say the least. If I could choose to live without it, completely free of the hormonal influences and urges, I would in a heart beat. The pleasure gained from sex is not worth it, my time and thoughts would be better spent on other things.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)18:19:02 No.301239628
>>301238413
Okay, everything is relative and nothing matters. All terms just depend on the subject's personal perspective. What now? Why haven't you killed yourself yet?
>>301238627
That is a ridiculously reductionist argument, but it is also untrue at its core. I agree that you are indeed propelled by these desires, but what you fail to realise is that the conscious mind gains the ability of choice once it attains knowledge.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:19:39 No.301239747
>>301237449
I'll simply not bother with the inanity you began with and move on to the point. You claim to have shown sex as being carnal and savage, yet I see no evidence of this. You have made a claim, that is all.
 
I would have gone into the reasoning as to why it is preposterous but that would have been an overly long tangent that I felt no desire to type out. However, given your rambling, I suppose I have no choice in the matter. The reasoning behind my statement involves this peculiar "enlightenment" concept of yours. Sex is savage? Why is this? Because it is natural for life and not born of pure sapience? What exactly is born of pure sapience? What actions would an enlightened person need to avoid to be free of all "savagery"? Should we simply skip the premise and simply become of mote of matter with no carnal urges to do anything except contemplate it's own existence? To me, this would be a life devoid of color, and I have no desire to live in such an empty world.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:21:30 No.301240109
>>301239628
We use knowledge to determine what leads to the greatest carnal pleasures. Choice is only our ability to measure two results and determine which we think is better in the long run. We think something is better because we attribute it to savage feelings.
 
captcha: minute, seenbox
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:21:31 No.301240124
>>301231332
Totally see your point your OP. I've had sex with a few people and it's no more pleasurable than masturbating. However, I'm judged and looked down on by those who've fucked more people. I don't care about the feeling of sex at all, the only reason I do it, is to not look like a total loser. I respect you man.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:21:31 No.301240128
>>301231332
is it just me, or does Gordon Freeman look a lot like Hugh Laurey
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:25:38 No.301240963
>>301240124
That, is the most ridiculous reasoning I have ever heard.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:27:06 No.301241363
>>301239628
I haven't killed myself because I enjoy life. I enjoy many parts of life, one of those parts is......sex!
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)18:28:45 No.301241713
>>301239747
Maybe you have no desire to live an enlightened life, but that is only your own problem. That you choose to be a slave to even those functions of your body you can control is a fate that you lay upon yourself. >>301240109
Again, utterly reductionist. You do not comprehend the emergent properties of the human mind, and thus your moral standpoint is what is commonly known as nihilism.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:31:23 No.301242303
Still don't know why savage = bad.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:33:56 No.301242829
>>301241713
Your definition of enlightenment is mind-bogglingly ridiculous. You seem to imagine it as some sort of existence beyond the human condition. I'd suggest true enlightenment would carry what we are with us beyond our original limitations. To enlighten all aspects of our nature. Not to cast them aside.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)18:35:23 No.301243144
>>301242303
It is bad for the person who does not wish to live as a dog. If you do fully wish to live as such a creature, I suppose I can do naught but pity you.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:35:49 No.301243259
>>301241713
>"That you choose to be a slave to even those functions of your body you can control is a fate that you lay upon yourself."
 
Wow and here we see the facade of the intelligent crumble. OP, if has chooses to enjoy something that means that perhaps they have chosen to be happy. If they are a slave then they are a happy slave. I can't beleive I have to explain this to you but
 
people like to be happy.
 
Shocking, I know. Also, if someone has choice then I'm not sure that slave is the correct term at all.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:36:20 No.301243402
>>301231332
OP is a pompous holier-than-thou puritan. Why do people enjoy distance running, snowboarding and other extreme sports, if not because of the endorphin rush generated. Why do people like sex, except for desire for physical intimacy conditioned by the release of oxytocin and other chemicals. Good luck overcoming billions of years of evolutionary pressure. But this lone warrior for the Good valiantly insists these all are somehow inferior ways of spending time and we should "elevate our minds" to loftier pastimes, no doubt like opera and reading Plato's Republic.
 
I thought like this myself. When I was about 15 and nobody would sleep with me, so I rationalised all this into how I was superior as I was above something so mundane. Then I grew the fuck up...
 
The real test would be if you have at least one woman wanting to sleep with you, and you refuse her as it is "too primitive" an act. When you've done that, come back and tell us.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:37:51 No.301243751
>>301243259
should read "if one has chosen" not "if has choosen"
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)18:40:02 No.301244193
>>301242829
We have already been sufficiently enlightened in what sex is by scientific inquiry, and it is exactly on those grounds that I choose to reject it. You are committing the naturalistic fallacy over and over again. We also know that it is natural for humans to become aggressive and violent, does it follow that it is condonable to go on a murderous rampage, simply because we know it is a basic human instinct?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:42:25 No.301244542
>>301243402
AKA 17 at most.
 
Dear OP,
 
It gets better after high-school.
 
Sincerely, Concerned
 
P.S. If you are in fact over the age of 25 and still think like this, then you should probably just end it.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)18:44:20 No.301245014
>>301243402
I'm sad to see you fell under this "evolutionary pressure" as you rightly call it. I hope you will overcome your weaknesss. Plato's Republic is quite excellent, but I'm no fan of opera, by the way. Also, I've had a few women who were interested in sleeping with me, and I did contemplate it seriously when I was young and foolish, but ultimately I chose to decline.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:45:34 No.301245173
OP is neckbearded hambeast, clearly virginfag.
 
There is nothing wrong with taking pleasure in the physical form. As with all things, if taken to excess can be detrimental. Such as chasing so called "enlightenment" to the point of self-alienation and a superiority complex.
 
The way you're coming off you sound as bad as the christfags or veganfags or anyone else that thinks they are superior. I hate to break it to you but you are not enlightened, you are limited in every sense of the word.
 
Enjoy your lonely pedestal.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:49:25 No.301245896
>>301245014
they were ugly weren't they?
I'm sorry your life sucks OP go start a Bawww thread.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:50:53 No.301246153
ITT: OP condemns that which he does not understand.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:52:06 No.301246391
>>301244193
I see. You decide to throw around words like fallacy in an attempt to gain a supposed intellectual high ground. Though I must say, perhaps you should be a little more restrictive with your use of such terms. You seem to mistake my argument for something which it is not. I am not saying, sex is good, therefore it ought to considered good. My point is that enlightenment does not imply a need to remove ourselves of non-sapience derived activities. Can you not see this?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:53:07 No.301246629
>>301231332
 
Why? Because it feels fucking fantastic, that's why.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)18:53:52 No.301246733
>>301245173
You are a masochist if you are a willful slave. You see it as a superiority complex, I see it as spreading what I believe to be true. I will enjoy my lonely pedestal as long as I know I am right, and nothing in this thread has proven otherwise. My opinions are not socially defined like yours seem to be.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:54:19 No.301246822
OP doesn't take into account any reason to have sex except personal pleasure.
 
I'm in a reasonably longterm relationship and recently lost my virginity with my boyfriend. Aside from the obvious simple orgasmic pleasure, I also felt glad that I was pleasing him and making him enjoy himself, and that us fucking was a way for me to demonstrate trust in him.
 
I also recently watched a talk on TED.com regarding love. It stated that the chemicals released in orgasm help to increase the bond between a couple.
 
Why should I deny a partner something that we both enjoy, has no risk and has been scientifically proven to increase the strength of a relationship?
 
In other news, am thoroughly enjoying this thread. Riveting stuff /b/.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)18:54:46 No.301246917
>>301246391
DERPITY NOPE *insert vaguely outlined under-educated-over-theorized argument here*
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:57:57 No.301247567
>>301246917
As yes, a more mature and elegant response one cannot find.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)18:58:05 No.301247594
>>301246733
Maybe nothing in this thread has proven otherwise because maybe not all of life can be experienced over 4chan. Maybe there are somethings you have to have done in order to understand.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:01:17 No.301248183
>>301246733
OP decides he is right. Superiority complex proven.
 
/thread
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:01:18 No.301248184
>Also, I've had a few women who were interested in sleeping with me, and I did contemplate it seriously when I was young and foolish, but ultimately I chose to decline.
 
some ugly bitch that you don't like doesn't count. everybody has had the chance to sleep with ugly fucknuts and turns it down. Go find somebody you really like and stop being so pathetic
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:03:17 No.301248541
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>>301246733
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:05:40 No.301248984
>>301246822
this.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:09:50 No.301249783
>>301246822
>>301246822
Attention /b/, this is a what a good post looks like!
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:14:08 No.301250624
sex is awesome ... unless shes fat
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)19:14:41 No.301250725
>>301246822
The only thing you demonstrate is your intellectual inferiority. Engaging in any kind of activity that satisfies your primeval desires is a temporary gratification which in the long run only makes you realise what a shameful waste of time it is. Eating a lot of raw sugar will also release endorphins, as will violence in certain situations.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:17:52 No.301251345
>>301250725
how about i beat the shit out of you with a bag of raw sugar and cum on your face.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:19:06 No.301251605
9/10
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:20:18 No.301251845
>>301250725
 
SUGAR SEX RULEZ!!!!!!!!
 
Seriously though, how old are you like 14? Either that or you're pretentious as fuck.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:20:20 No.301251847
tl;dr cool story bro
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:21:06 No.301252017
>>301250725
9/10
 
wow didn't realize this a troll till now. well done OP.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:21:10 No.301252031
>>301231332
 
Dear OP,
 
If I have sex I find myself needing to wank less. It also feels 10x better.
 
Humble regards,
Anon.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:21:43 No.301252129
>>301251845
what the fuck do you mean by sugar sex? you cant fuck sugar
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)19:22:05 No.301252195
>>301251845
The repeated stabs at my maturity and/or age do much to disprove my point.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:22:25 No.301252265
>>301252129
have you ever tried?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:22:28 No.301252286
>>301252129
 
I'm calling rule 35 on that shit right there!
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:23:13 No.301252442
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Sex feels good man. Always use a condom.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:24:10 No.301252643
I just got thru reading this thread. OP I give you 9/10.
 
:P
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:24:12 No.301252647
Have you ever actually had sex?
 
I rest my case...
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:24:13 No.301252655
>>301252195
>>301252195
>>301252195
>>301252195
>>301252195
>>301252195
>>301252195
The point of everyone thinking you're a tween is that you must be lacking life experience and maturity to be making these posts.
 
A decent number of us on this board would have made the same posts back when we were 14-17 years old.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:25:33 No.301252910
>>301252195
 
I think the problem mate, is that you're acting like you turn away sex for some sort moral or spiritual purity/higher ground. The truth, which is painfully obvious to everyone else, is you never get the option to fuck anyone, and you're trying to justify being a virgin. I'm sure as soon as you realise you can grab a nice fat practice girl all this will go out the window. People have sex because they enjoy it and it makes them feel good. That's all you need to know, you might as well ask why do you all play video games? It's not productive and it limits social contact.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:26:45 No.301253076
>>301252910
>>301246822
 
/thread
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:27:33 No.301253179
>>301252129
 
Respectfully Sir, I can fuck whatever I goddamn well please.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:27:39 No.301253191
SPOILER ALERT OP:
 
4chan is a waste of time that is only gratifying in the short term.
GTFO
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:29:09 No.301253496
hey op, if the scale breaks when you weigh yourself you're not allowed on /b/
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)19:29:25 No.301253548
>>301252910
You may think it's fine to live your life simply doing things because they "feel good". I do in fact have a higher sense of purpose than that, and all those who do not are deplorable creatures.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:29:35 No.301253576
I know what you mean OP. Yes, for many people sex is quite physically pleasurable, and one needs a partner to do it. Thus it's obviously going to have social consequences. But I think its enjoyability gets artificially inflated sometimes because it is so tied up with social status and even the appearance of maturity in American society. To be an adult satisfied with a finite amount of sex and with no motivation to procure more is to be an entirely unrelatable person to many of the people you will meet.
 
I am a virgin but I strongly suspect nothing is as good as sex is made out to be. Personally I have a terribly small vagina and I don't think it's going to be much fun at all. Getting fingered isn't even fun. I especially don't understand the appeal of one-night stands in which no emotional intimacy lends meaning to the act. What use is it to release all those bonding hormones that declare "This is thy mate! Care for this person!" if you're not in a mate-like relationship?
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)19:31:05 No.301253836
>>301253548
specifically my higher purpose is to make sure that my dick never goes into a pussy and run around being pretty damn retarded on 4chan.org.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:32:36 No.301254074
>>301250725
Then you would think that after I had satisfied my urges for sex that I would regret the action, but I don't. I demonstrated to him that I trusted he was honest about being STD free (I have a contraceptive implant to inb4 babby being formed) and that I trusted him to be as emotionally close to me as the sex made us feel without hurting my feelings.
 
OP, if you think about it, all actions are the result of urges. We eat because we're hungry, we sleep because we're tired, we think because we want to understand and improve. It's a primal urge for humans to improve their living habitat and yet you have nothing bad to say about this.
 
If a person had the choice between living in a sewer or living in a comfortable house, they would choose the house because it's more enjoyable.
 
If a person could choose between sex or no sex with a desirable person they'd choose sex because it's more enjoyable.
 
The search for more enjoyable life has led all human invention and progress, but you would have us deny that which we enjoy just to feel morally superior.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:32:32 No.301254096
Why is "having sex to create a child" acceptable yet "having sex with a child" considered wrong? It really seems like the pedo way just cuts out the middle man.....
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:32:39 No.301254105
>>301253548
 
Higher purpose? Fuck of mate! You're starting to sound like a serial killer.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:33:52 No.301254225
Yes, people make too big a deal of sex.
No, you aren't a better person for not having it.
 
Goddamn ascetics.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:39:51 No.301255348
>>301254225
well that about wraps it up I think.
OP is a virgin trying to justify it by deluding himself into superiority.
He will not be swayed by this because you can't have sex over an image board.
inb4 OP dies sad and alone.
 
sex is good and sex sells so we make a bigger deal out of it than it should be.
 
/thread
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:42:25 No.301255924
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Can this thread now be about all the beautiful girls OP would never fuck?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:44:26 No.301256318
sex is fun, feels good, and helps us feel closer to the people in our tribe
like grooming each other - just helping each other feel good in general. just a demonstration that has no progressive outcome but they just do it to show you'd do something for them simply to make them happy.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)19:46:24 No.301256708
>>301254074
You could also take giant craps on each other to prove this undying trust. The act itself does not become meaningful. You are confusing the means with the ends. I eat because I need food to survive. I also consider eating a waste of time, and if it were not a necessity I would not do it. The same goes for sleeping.
As for the rest of your post, you are conflating a wide range of unrelated things. The desire to understand and improve is not reducible in the same vein as a basic physical need is. The emergence of inquisitive nature itself with conscious knowledge and rejection of its limitations to the fullest extent is the only true freedom of the mind. This is where virtually everyone in this thread has failed so far.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:48:56 No.301257181
>>301256708
OP doesn't know about scat.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:50:10 No.301257427
>>301256708
>"The desire to understand and improve is not reducible in the same vein as a basic physical need is."
 
why?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:51:46 No.301257746
>>301246733
Is something wrong with masochism?
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)19:53:22 No.301258079
>>301257427
Because consciousness liberates the mind as long as physical reality does not bind it.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:53:41 No.301258142
>>301256708
OP doesn't understand biology.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:54:24 No.301258288
>>301256708
Yes, I went on a bit of a ramble in that post, got caught up thinking about urges in general.
 
Why will you not at least try it before shunning the idea completely? You are so arrogant as to be convinced you are right without even experimenting with the opposing sides argument. Go get laid with one of these supposedly willing girls, if you find you don't enjoy it and wish to abstain then you're within your moral rights to do that.
 
To me it sounds like you're saying "I don't like chocolate, it's bad for you" without ever trying chocolate. In excess both chocolate and sex can be bad, but why deny yourself the pleasure of a little indulgence of your less rational side?
 
You aren't morally superior to deny urges, you're just stubborn and arrogant.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:55:42 No.301258543
>>301258079
Ah, well that explains it. All of us are too concerned with reality. OP here has come to reject the real world and is happily deluded.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)19:56:13 No.301258669
>>301258288
I will not cut off my own arm just to experience what it feels like either.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:56:16 No.301258683
>>301256708
First of all, sex as a symbol of love is not arbitrary; it results a chemical bond which helps the participants feel closer.
Second of all ... It is bad to follow our animal instincts when they conflict with our morals and we know they will have ill consequence in the long term. But sex doesn't always do so. It is not inherently wrong to enjoy eating, laughing, fucking, running, or any of the other simple pleasures of life. One needs balance, OP, balance between higher and lower enjoyments. From whence comes this solemn duty to devote ourselves only to higher enjoyments?
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)19:59:03 No.301259245
>>301258543
You misunderstand completely. We are not bound by physical reality to have sex like we are bound to eat, for example. Knowledge gives you a choice in this case. Once technology becomes increasingly sophisticated we will not need to eat either.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:59:09 No.301259261
>>301258669
See OP, heres the thing: where intelligence is really important is not reading the republic but being able to tell the difference between cutting off ones arm and sticking ones penis in a vagina.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:59:10 No.301259265
It's human nature to want sex. The perpetuation of the human race relies on that lust, in fact
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)19:59:50 No.301259413
>>301258669
 
So wet, tight and warm. I could fuck all day. Too bad you're a mongo fag
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)20:00:05 No.301259463
>>301258683
It comes from rational contemplation.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)20:01:04 No.301259673
>>301259261
The difference is, in a sense, only a matter of degree.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:01:19 No.301259736
>>301259245
And because you refused to eat from the tree of knowledge, because you blind yourself to understanding you are superior?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:01:31 No.301259792
For a moment, I actually thought there could be some interesting ideas and discussion in here, but all I see are two or three pretentious retards going back and forth and trying to see who can use the biggest words.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:02:31 No.301259997
OP is mutant born without basic human needs. Do I pity or envy OP? Trick question OP is a faggot therfor he is a faggot.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:03:14 No.301260144
>>301259673
Only because you've got a preconceived notion that sex is bad. You sir are either young or dumb.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:03:19 No.301260165
i think OP just finished fapping
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:04:10 No.301260341
>>301259792
>this
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:04:33 No.301260445
>>301258669
Sex is enjoyable and you desire it naturally, so why not find out about it? It will do you no harm if done right. A truly intelligent valuable mind would be naturally curious and amenable to admitting mistakes.
 
If every human denied eating, we'd have extinction facing us. The same is true for fucking. Urges are in us to ensure the continuation of the human species. Even if it is primal, it's still important.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:04:36 No.301260461
>>301259792
hey there have been a few good posts at least. I liked this one: >>301246822
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:05:21 No.301260619
I love how OP poses a logical argument, has sound points, and yet people are still refuting as if he himself questioned the integrity of every single one of you.
 
Also, I agree with the OP. The world is overpopulated, so it's not like we NEED to procreate; thus leaving no real reason to fornicate?
>>       !!9SoVes4j9z1 01/09/11(Sun)20:08:42 No.301261379
Because it feels good. Your resting on the negative connotation of primitive, as if there was something wrong with it. I'm eating my creme brulee because it taste good. Should I eat oats and unsalted meat for the rest of my life out of nothing more than contrariness to some bullshit word? No. That's idiotic.
Live life and deal with it; do what you enjoy. Sex included.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:08:48 No.301261397
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>>301255924
>>301255924
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:09:54 No.301261681
>>301260619
use birth control.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)20:10:13 No.301261751
>>301260445
And you of course only fuck when you have to procreate. Even if you did, none of us have a moral obligation to further the human species. What is good for the species is not necessarily good for the individual. As for the harm it does, I've made that quite clear many times now in this thread.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:11:43 No.301262143
>>301259463
Logic is a great tool, but it is a tool nonetheless. It helps us make decisions which achieve our ends. But logic cannot tell us what those ends are. It is impossible to make even the tiniest rational decision for oneself if one does not know what one values are, like trying to solve a calculus problem without knowing which parameters to minimize or maximize. Those values cannot be reasoned out because logic is only as good as its premises. The premises must start somewhere. Primary objectives such as "I want to keep living", "I want to feel accomplished", and "I want to feel good" can be hidden deep inside us, but we must learn to know them and know ourselves if we are to be happy.
 
No one can tell you what you want, and no one can tell you that your wants are superior or inferior to another person's wants. If you want to roll around in the mud more than you want to write a sonnet, then bravo to you: that's a logical decision.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:13:16 No.301262498
>>301261751
Then I'm not sure I remember, or maybe I read it wrong. Maybe you just didn't say.
 
What is the harm? Would you make me feel bad for enjoying myself?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:15:06 No.301262922
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>>301262143
this is well said.
>>       !!9SoVes4j9z1 01/09/11(Sun)20:15:08 No.301262933
>>301246822
This. When there is nothing wrong with something and it feels amazing on both a shallow, hedonistic level and on one deeper satisfaction why the hell not. Your saying there something wrong with sex, and then leaving it at that. There is nothing wrong with it. If we avoided everything that we considered savage (for no reason at all mind you) we would live the most ridiculously empty lives.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:16:30 No.301263261
It's not primitive to have sex in a relationship, primitive is on the other hand having sex with every female you see whenever you feel like it and making as many children as you can.
 
Oh, and sex if fcking awesome, i would recommend everyone to just dot it. (duh)
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:16:32 No.301263268
>>301262933
I think OP might live one of those ridiculously empty lives. or hes 17....
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:17:46 No.301263546
>>301262933
If I'm wrong, correct me, but that's not what he is implementing. It's not that he's saying it's wrong, he's asking what the point is.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:18:27 No.301263695
Its worth pointing out that we can do nothing to convince OP because you can't have sex over 4chan and he is too closed minded to actually educate himself.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:20:15 No.301264057
>>301263546
see:
>>301245014
and
>>301243144
>>       !!9SoVes4j9z1 01/09/11(Sun)20:23:47 No.301264834
>P1: Sex is savage.
Fine.
>P2: Indulging in savage things forces the individual into a life of unfulfilled misery.
Total bullshit. OP's life may feel lacking when he satisfies his savage needs. That's fine. He can enjoy his life bland food, no sex, and isolation. I on the other hand am perfectly satisfied with my life in hedonism.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:25:09 No.301265114
I think the problem is OP's a Kantian and we're all utilitarians or nihilists.
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)20:25:15 No.301265134
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To say that sex is savage/carnal is crazy. And to counter the argument of "well try sex and then form an opinion" with "I won't cut off my arm just to see what it feels like" is also crazy. Cutting off your arm obviously has more immediate and physically dangerous setbacks than having sex and MAYBE getting an STD.
 
Sex feels good. Humans like to feel good. Some people say it's a need. I don't necessarily agree, but it sure is a want that most people frequently want. To me, there is nothing wrong with it.
 
I either detect a troll, or some sort of pseudo-intellectual who thinks he's better than other people because he's found the "weakness" in sex. Mind you, I'm not saying that you can't get any, but how pompous of you to dismiss desires as primitive and sad.
>>       OP 01/09/11(Sun)20:25:53 No.301265280
>>301262143
(Absolute) moral relativism rears its ugly head again. It is an inherent self-contradiction. Moral obligations and social norms can in fact be derived rationally; this thread is just one example of that.
>>301262498
The arguments I've made over and over again stem from the very simple dichotomies of free will vs slavery and primitivism vs enlightenment. I won't repeat them all again simply for your convenience.
 
Anyway, it's been interesting at least. I will now return to writing the law report you bastards have kept me from finishing.
>>       !!9SoVes4j9z1 01/09/11(Sun)20:26:52 No.301265498
>>301263546
I was under the impression that he was saying things without a point outside of pleasure are wrong, ergo my comment.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:28:47 No.301265946
ITT: we see a sad man/boy trying to delude himself into superiority. Uneducated in life he tries to develop a system in which this is an asset rather than a fault. This is all too common a tragedy.
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)20:29:52 No.301266186
>>301265280
 
 
Lmao, so I was right. You are a pseudo-intellectual. I'm surprised you didn't promptly proclaim that you were going to eat your caviar and finish The New York Times.
 
And, furthermore, you posted this thread. I'm confused. Why are we bastards for entertaining your question?
>>       !!9SoVes4j9z1 01/09/11(Sun)20:30:23 No.301266304
>>301265280
That's the thing. They aren't dichotomies. You can indulge in savagery and still retain "enlightenment".
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:31:05 No.301266362
OP is right. Human beings in general are just fucking disgusting.
 
BTW I'm 31 and i've had lots of sex. (with real people).
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:30:43 No.301266421
>>301264057
You truly believe that sex can only be had for primal enjoyment and procreation? I cannot even begin to understand your logic.
 
All I can say is that you should try having a meaningful relationship like the one I mentioned being in earlier, and giving into your desires to try it.
 
Casual sex is less meaningful obviously, but if they enjoy it then why judge them inferior?
 
Finally, good luck finding a woman who is willing to have a nonsexual romantic relationship with you. We are sexually charged, full of hormones and babymaking urges. They are an uncontrollable part of us and your rejection of that will make you unattractive to most if not all young women.
 
Grow up, get over yourself and get laid before you start throwing around lofty arguments on things you've never experienced.
 
I'm going to bed. Fuck you.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:33:48 No.301266534
The urge to reproduce so that your species can survive is savage? What the fuck are you on? O_o
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)20:34:37 No.301266589
>>301266304
 
 
This man has sense in him.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:38:13 No.301266927
it's the point of living, stupid
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:38:17 No.301266954
>>301266421
Oh lawdy what a mistake I made there. Proof I'm too tired for this shit. Later faggots.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:40:51 No.301267718
op you seem to have hit a nerve with the masses.
if you have a strong reaction to someone questioning one of your beliefs then take it as a sign that you need to analyse that idea and why you feel threatened when a question arrises regarding its validity
ops statement is derived from a purely logical sequence and has arrived to some conclusions and wishes to discuss them
i see no reason to chastise op. rather applaud his process for rational thinking whether you are in agreeance or not
i am married to a woman who is unable to have conceive but we have sex multiple times a week at the neglect of other more enlightnening persuits
it feels fucking great we both completely understand the efficiency acheived if someone can transcend these carnal urgings.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:45:57 No.301268595
OP makes perfect sense, and I am exactly in tune with his reasoning. I have been in comitted sexual relationships, one offs, etc etc....I'm no fag, and no virgin. Yet, I understand the reasoning that he makes....sex is sold to us as a mark of social status...go to any nightclub, party or bar and witness the masses of people who attempt to fuck whatever moves....is that a positive way to introduce yourself to a possible mate/partner? It seems people have very little time for getting to understand a love interest, and this tends to be with in younger age demographics. When I go to a party, and a chick hits on me, but I'm not interested in her for whatever reason (not my type, she's too drunk, I'm too drunk, her breath smells, I'm tired, I couldn't be bothered) its like everyone in the room looks at me like I'm a fag. People who are obsessed with sex have problems.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:49:42 No.301269294
>>301231332
Captcha: love fortfing
 
OP. I must say I agree with everything you've said. Sex is useless.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:51:21 No.301269618
OP is a fag.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:52:40 No.301269801
>>301267718
>>if you have a strong reaction to someone questioning one of your beliefs then take it as a sign that you need to analyse that idea and why you feel threatened when a question arrises regarding its validity
 
Maybe OP has a strong reaction to people questioning his beliefs, simply because the people questioning them are brainless neanderthals...it has nothing to do with OP's beliefs being invalid.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:56:51 No.301270457
>>301231332
.......your gay... thats the explanation for the retard shit you just said
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)20:59:42 No.301270906
I wonder how many people criticizing OP are fucking roid rage jocks or alpha male IQ'less dipshits?
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)21:03:07 No.301271735
>>301270906
 
I wonder how many people think that just because they deny sex that they are somehow better and more intelligent than others that accept and enjoy sex.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:04:15 No.301271936
>>301269801
its funny that a group of "brainless neanderthals" could so quickly understand and use 21st century technology
that being said, op needs to get off his high horse and realize that the set of ideals he has adopted are not for everyone
on this immense speck of dust we call earth is a group of billions of beings that hardly know what they want for breakfast tomorrow let alone whats best for themselves
why not just live and let live?
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)21:07:20 No.301272417
>>301268595
 
 
You're for whatever reason confusing dumb horn dogs with...well everyone else. If I'm not attracted to a girl, I will not have sex with her. And I mean attracted in every sense of the word. Not saying she has to be perfect, but if I dislike certain things about her, I won't give her a second thought. That doesn't make neither you nor I gay, it just makes us a bit more picky than those other people at the party.
 
I agree that sex is sold, but you have to understand that not everyone listens. "If you have sex early and often, you will be cool" is high school shit.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:10:37 No.301273113
>>301271735
 
Hai You fucking dipshit! No one is talking about denying sex and being morally superior to those who accept it. I accept sex and the pleasures surrounding it, but I see sex for what it is...a tool that is used to denote status and power as opposed to promote procreation and love....you are obviously a roid rage jock whos testicles have shrivelled to a size which makes his puny cock look much bigger than it is.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:12:45 No.301273574
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Fagoty, bible pushin', obvious troll is obvious.
 
You can't talk down about sex unless you've had it, OP. Stop ranting to /b/ about how you think sex is wrong or whatever message/point it is that you're trying to get across to us. We fuck girls & guys(/b/ros who role that way), and we love it. Get the fuck out, since I doubt you never have and never will see tits, fagot.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:13:08 No.301273684
>>301271936
 
Yes and my cat can turn the computer on and off if he watches me do it enough, so what's your fucking point Einstein. who cares if OP's values aren't for everyone. He makes a very logical and coherent post, states that the sexual nature of social interaction saddens him and he's crucified by /b/tards everywhere....sounds like you're the one who needs to get off his high horse faggot.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:17:01 No.301274509
OP HAS CLEARLY NEVER GOTTEN LAID
*female point of view*
I love cock in my pussy.
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)21:17:17 No.301274570
>>301273113
 
As much as I enjoy a heaping spoonful of troll, your assessments are retarded. Why does sex need to promote anything at all? I think the people who do have it for the "right" reasons know what it's all about, so why the fuck do they care about those who don't?
 
Rawr, sex is a tool used by those who don't only want love and kids!
 
So? If you're not submitting to that, who the fuck cares? I've never cheated on a girl. I've had only one one night stand, and I hated it. If that makes me "obviously a roid rage jock" so be it.
 
I was criticizing OP because he considers sex to be so savage and silly while being super pious about it. So yeah, we were talking about morally superior, weren't we?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:21:17 No.301275429
>>301267718
 
So I suppose with that logic those that questioned the prevailing belief that the earth was flat and were outcast needed to "reevaluate" their beliefs because the status quo didn't follow their reasoning? You're obviously a fucking idiot
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:22:25 No.301275660
>>301274570
 
Seems like I struck a nerve with you eh fuckwad? You basically admit to being a fucking no brain jock, which explains the hostility to OP in this thread. Fuck off and die.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:23:15 No.301275851
pic related? thread about sex and STD's (tl;dr) with a pic of gordon freeman creepy ominous rapeface.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:25:36 No.301276340
VIRGIN FAG IS VIRGIN
go get laid bro
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:25:59 No.301276410
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Why is eating considered a positive thing, barring wanting to have get fat? I don't even want to go into the obvious risks such as High Cholesterol and unwanted Mantitties; I'm talking at a much more fundamental level. The drive for hunger is one of the most savage instincts we have, yet our culture seems obsessed with having it as much as possible and as superficially as possible. The main explanation for this is probably the backlash from centuries of religious dogma which was also obsessed with the act. On a conscious level I simply do not see the supposed allure of food. I recognize the urge, like when I have to defecate, but the difference is that the latter isn't exactly optional. I will snack simply to keep the hormonal issues in check, but otherwise I find myself liberated from these primitive desires that apparently have become the raison d'etre of my generation. It saddens me.
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)21:26:13 No.301276462
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>>301275429
 
Whoa, was that seriously meant for me? How did anything in my post at all reflect your counterpoint?
 
Somehow me thinking that sex doesn't need to promote anything, and people shouldn't care about the beliefs other others and live by their own moral code somehow compares to the Earth being proven round? Wow. That's some deduction skills.
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)21:28:18 No.301276851
>>301275660
 
No, not really. I'm actually pretty calm right now. You haven't struck a nerve. I'm simply stating my case and defending myself. Again, if that makes me a jock, alright. To your merit, I did play baseball in high school.
 
If you trollin', nice work.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:29:23 No.301277064
>>301276462
 
Here's some deduction logic for you then you grade 8 fucking pansy.....
 
>>if you have a strong reaction to someone questioning one of your beliefs
 
such as those who questioned the earth being flat and were lambasted for it
 
>> then take it as a sign that you need to analyse that idea and why you feel threatened when a question arrises regarding its validity
 
if those who questioned whether the earth was flat because of your logic, we'd still be members in the flat earth society. Make enough sense to you fucknuts?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:30:40 No.301277299
>>301276851
Nah not trolling, just fucking jocks like you are the problem, you're fucking elitist attitude fucking up kids in high school, you're fucking coasting through life on college scholarships because you can chase a ball as good as any dog from the humane society could...fuck off and die scum
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)21:32:02 No.301277580
>>301277064
 
 
Erm...hate to break it to you, but that wasn't me.
 
Check the name, brah.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:32:06 No.301277588
I kinda agree with OP. Why do people laugh at people who never had sex nor a girlfriend? It doesn't make sense. I don't want a girlfriend, and fapping has been working out well for me this entire time. I'm not desperate or anything, if a girl wants to fuck bad, I would probably say no considering she can't fulfill my desires like /d/ can. Anyways, I've been able to have so much more fun in life without having a woman. I've been able to do so many more things without having to worry about a girlfriend getting in the way. It would just cause too much stress having one around. I don't have to spend money on a bitch either. Chilling with my bros is probably the best thing, and I don't want a girl to ruin that. My friends who currently have girlfriends are such faggots and never go out to drink with us or just somewhere to dick around. I can't see any positive of having a girlfriend, so why is it such a big deal that I don't have one?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:32:39 No.301277698
Well since in this day and age we have the technology (aka a piece of rubber shaped like a cock) to prevent viral std's and unwanted pregnancies and sex is just fun, it feels good, and there's no real reason NOT to do it if you're both consenting. If your thing is abstinence, go for it. If you're celibate, good for you. if you wanna fuck everyone you meet, I'll support you. Some people will simply do it more.
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)21:33:34 No.301277928
>>301277064
 
Ok, ok. My mistake. I'm sorry. It seems I clicked the wrong post number.
 
I concede that I was retarded in this particular case.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:34:09 No.301278067
>>301277064
 
Well unfortunately we DO still have flat earthers but they're only about 10-20 of them.
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)21:34:46 No.301278204
>>301277299
 
Everyone that played ball in college is an elitist and is coasting through life?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:35:54 No.301278429
OP, I pretty much agree with you, or at least I see critical opinion of sexuality so rarely that I have to take the opportunity to agree with you. I'm not critical of sexuality itself, but I think the modern, western attitude to sex is juvenile and hedonisitic and basically the wrong attitude to have towards sex in all respects.
 
Rather then asking why sex is considered a positive thing, I'd be more inclinced to ask why it's considered a negative thing. That seems more relevant - sex is treated like a forbidden, dirty, 'naughty' thing, rather then a natural, ordinary part of life. People in the west are enticed and excited about sex because the underlying attitude, whether people realise it or not, is that sex is wrong.
 
We have this attitude that we can't expose children to sexuality, because we associate it so strongly with deubachery, harm, and pornography.
 
The paradox is that its absolutely everywhere, saturating our culture, while at the same time, especially by the more conserative elements of the culture, its seen as being wrong - and the appeal in the hedonistic elements of our culture comes from the entice and excitement of it being wrong.
 
Sex should just be accepted as a biological function. You would think that sex as you are educated about it in biology and sex as you know it in day to day life are two different things. Children need to learn about sex the same way they learn about all the other functions of the body early in school years.
>>      noko Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:36:16 No.301278507
Even after all this shitstorm the light is visible
the vidya> sex
end of story
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)21:36:53 No.301278631
>>301277588
 
Well, you've assumed a lot in your post. You've stated that you've had such a great time with life without either having sex or having a girlfriend. How would you know, exactly? Not trying to be a dick, but it's always good to try things before forming an opinion on them.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:40:01 No.301279376
>>301278631
Besides sex, and reproduction what more is a woman useful for?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:40:27 No.301279471
>>301278429
 
further more, people act like sex is the greatest thing ever, and basicall the main meaning of life. They say that sex is "important", but really, their sexuality is not important at all - its just hedonistic, juvenile indulgence. Sex should be viewed as completely natural and normal, as erotic and not pornographic, as being about love rather then lust and promiscuity.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:42:31 No.301279949
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You aren't liberated from anything. You are what people refer to as "asexual"
 
lrn2wikipedia
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:43:26 No.301280191
>>301278429
 
Perhaps attitudes towards sex seem to be juvenile and hedonistic because we're discussing it on /b/ where's there's nothing but juveniles who have the critical thinking skills of a high school jock. other than that I completely agree with your post and OP's. Attitudes towards sex and those who choose abstinence (in a non religious sense) are juvenile. There's nothing wrong with OP's views and our society might have less misogyny/misandry if we didn't take our cues from Snooki and the "scene"
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:43:54 No.301280315
I think OP's been watching too much Dexter.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:44:14 No.301280399
>>301278631
 
I agree with you but he's got a point. Whenever a guy has an actual, genuine interest in something intellectual or cultural, he "needs to get a girlfriend", because its not acceptable to be interested in anything other then sex, and it is not acceptable to be an individual, everybody must do what is required to conform and make themselves fade into mediocrity and obscurity.
 
People in our culture just cannot see past shallow, hedonistic sexuality, they have an unhealthy, immature and underdeveloped concept of sexuality.
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)21:44:34 No.301280489
>>301279376
 
I really hope this isn't going to be a "women belong in the kitchen" argument, because I'm actually trying to have an intelligent conversation here.
 
Women have a different way of thinking than men. Whether it be more emotional or more rational, the fact remains that they simply think differently. I like to look at all sides of an argument and women provide that for me at times. I've talked talked to incredibly smart women, and I've talked to incredibly dumb women. Anything you do with a dude (in terms of just chillin' out), you can do with a girl. I don't see why you have to isolate yourself from a girl just because you're content with your buddies. I have a female friend now who goes toe to toe with me in Halo. She's far greater than some of my male friends. Sometimes, I just prefer the company of a woman.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:45:07 No.301280631
>>301280191
 
well I see it everywhere, not just on /b/. Not only all over the internet, but all through the media and social culture.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:46:33 No.301281005
I can read between the lines OP, you are just another pathetic basement dweller trying to justify the fact you are 18+ and a virgin, man up and hire a whore kid.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:46:45 No.301281061
>>301280489
 
women have a better ability to think with both sides of their brain, and they're better at being open minded. I agree with feminists that they shouldn't be so under represented in intellectual culture, because currently intellectualism is entirely based on the male mind.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:47:59 No.301281378
>>301279376
 
Sandwiches?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:50:15 No.301281999
>>301250725
i somewhat agreed with you until that post
now i see that you're a pretentious, elitist, lonely, sad, fag who disregards reality
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:52:35 No.301282535
>>301280489
I don't care, I've hung out with women before, they are boring as fuck. Them thinking differently is the reason why I can't hang with them. It has nothing to do with intelligence. I find no enjoyment talking to a woman because you don't talk to a woman like you talk to a guy. It's just not the same feeling.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:52:39 No.301282550
>>301279376
 
motherhood, we wouldn't be here without them, and nobody loves you like your mother does. We've been in lockstep with women throughout our evolutionary history. And Women are beautiful creatures, aesthetically, not just sexually.
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)21:52:44 No.301282566
>>301280399
 
 
It just seems to me that the people who are most offended here are hanging out with the wrong people. If people are judging you that harshly, I'm sorry, and that's not right at all.
 
Like I said before, that's high school shit. I really hate conformity, especially at the maturity level of high school. If you wanna just chill out with your friends and play video games, that's cool. I did that for about three years. But I still think you should try your hand with the ladies.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:52:46 No.301282570
Since OP is above all "savage" impulses, social pressures, and does not condone the pursuit of pleasure for its own sake, even if there are no negative consequences, I assume that he feeds himself using an IV drip, doesn't wear clothes unless he is at risk of hypothermia and sleeps on the hard floor.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:53:58 No.301282886
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>>301281061
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:54:59 No.301283126
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>>301231332
Have you ever willing had sex?
I mean really get the fuck off your high horse.
So you don't like sex. That's okay because I doubt anyone will fuck you because you are clearly a woman and most likely fat too. But I don't care about that; I care about the fact you are talking about sex like it is something to be ashamed of. "The drive for sexual intercourse is one of the most savage instincts we have." There is nothing savage about it. It is what nature intended which is why it is pleasurable. If we didn't like sex there would be no kids obviously. Yet you say it like it's murder. We aren't obsessed with it. We know it sells well because it applies to a basic need, yes need. You need love in your life and some asshole who says it but never acts on it won't do it. But you don't like sex, most likely won't have it and as a consequence will die alone with only your cats and their urine.
 
But hey, you got your high horse.
 
Fuck you
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)21:55:03 No.301283147
>>301282535
 
 
That's really only because you make it that way. It's not the same because you've some preconceived notion that women are boring, so you will make no effort with them whatsoever. And like I said, if you don't want to, that's cool. I'm just glad you tried.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)21:56:30 No.301283483
>>301282886
 
they do have better abilitiy to think with both sides of the brain, its a fact, its been observed, and its obvious without having to look at brain scans anyway. Male minds are usually too left brained, or they can't integrate the two halves very well. Thats probably why there is a divide between science and humanities when there shouldn't be.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)22:00:35 No.301284358
>>301231332
 
It is really pleasurable. It is the same argument as any other activity humans indulge in that carries risks and is pleasurable. Except we have an instinctive urge to do it. We don't get "horny" for marijuana.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)22:00:48 No.301284414
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>>301283483
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)22:01:47 No.301284634
>>301282570
 
Exactly. That's why I was mad. It's like, if it's not your thing, fine. But don't shit on everyone else who opts to do differently and be a smart ass dick about it. I seriously cannot believe he actually used the phrase "raison d'etre". I was fine up until I read that. For whatever reason, that just really set me off.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)22:02:11 No.301284715
>>301283483
I forgot to add you are a retard and huge faggot.
>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)22:03:01 No.301284921
>>301284358
 
Yeah, OP needs some sort of risks and rewards reevaluation.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)22:03:10 No.301284954
>>301283483
 
Lateralization of brain function to that extent is a myth. Only certain specific neurological functions tend to be located on one hemisphere or the other (eg. Broca's and Wernicke's areas), but there is no correlation between gender and lateralization.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)22:04:47 No.301285317
Intelligent conversation? In my /b/?
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)22:07:51 No.301285998
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>>301281061
>>301283483
In mice the gene ob code for Leptin production. If a lab mouse is homozygous of ob then it is typically obese. Lab mice have been grown to be very similar to human genetically. Scientist theorized that in humans, since the same gene was present the same would be true.
 
But it wasn't. Just because genetics suggest an idea doesn't mean it proves it and I am sick of having my entire gender slandered on bullshit grounds you have no evidence of just because you want to make a point.
 
Back off.
 
There are quite a few dumb men out there and just as many dumb shallow and annoying girls. Genetics don't make you who you are, they only shape it.
 
Also, for being so much more capable of thinking better you certainly do less of it so all in all it is most likely equal in terms of total thinking done.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)22:08:24 No.301286106
>>301284634
 
Wow faggot. Someone uses an intellectually appropriate word, and it "set's you off". I hope you never have to go to university, or you know, get a job where people aren't flipping hamburgers. You might here "'big" words like that a lot you stupid illiterate fuck.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)22:10:44 No.301286595
IT FEELS GOOD. THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO HAVE SEX. NO OTHER MOTIVE, EXCEPT FOR PLEASURE. STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT SO COMPLICATED.
>>       Anonymous 01/09/11(Sun)22:13:57 No.301287309
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FOOLS. Listen to my words, for I hold the explanation to you're pathetic whiny problems. The very core of our minds is the ID, the all knowing, all powerful sub conscious who's only motive is our reproduction. We are slaves to a part of our minds we cannot understand, the universe's only prime objective is to exist, and procreation is all that is needed. Science is irrelevant! There IS only fucking!
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>>       Navidson 01/09/11(Sun)22:14:52 No.301287506
>>301286106
 
 
Wow are you serious? That phrase doesn't just scream pompous to you? It's not a "big word" nor is it beyond my vocabulary. And while it makes sense in the context of his argument, I just think it was him trying to be a pompous asshole. We later learned that OP is in law school, so I guess that kind of clears up the reasoning behind using the phrase. Honestly, that's pretty much the only legit reason to use it.
 
And you're one to talk about being illiterate. Check your post-
 
>>set's
>>here
 
Omega fail.
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