You can say we need a broader vision or whatever, but without an avenue or solution it's just pointless dead-end conversation or a circular one. It's usually someone with different priorities wanting us to share them. Wants us to stop trying to promote white identity and instead promote what they want without a reason to do so
 
Moreover, it's a tent of people advocating for whites. It's not trying to be complete. Trying to mainstream these ideas.
 
You need something more than crying about materialism and being trad. It too often becomes "I cant say you're wrong but I want you to be" or an attempt to give yourself some influence in a conversation with no place for you
 
And they know nobody will seriously counter-signal them and they know it. Hence why they too often use "because God" as their justification. When you need a secular justification for policy