Loberalism doesnt offer a robust defense of itself, because it is particukarly suspectible to surrounding narratives   Jean Raspail   It seems to assume a receptive populace, a secure and basically functionally society, and consequently treats itself as responsible for successful intergenerational transmission, idenpdence, and success generally rather than a result   ----------   Putting aside the noral pitrage and sbeaky deplatforming and addressing your arguments you almost always fail to do anything more than have rambling rants about irrelevant details or pet philopsophical objections. Namely   1. Denying rave to escape the debate or some other concept   2. Shifting burnden of proof   3. Nitpicking in the weeds   ---------   You guys offer easy solutions because you think it could work out without positive evidence. So it is "just assimilate them for real" and you dont even know how to do that. You think you can lead a horse to water, make it drink but cant even prove you can make the horse acknowledge you   Or you externalize the issue in other ways than just policy failure: saudi mosques, islam, etc   Not saying they dint matter but are incidental   Horse analogy is referring to the notion that simply exposure to ideas makes the difference