Basically the argument isnt really about whether you like Hitler or not. And one side isn't merely mad that the moderate side is moderate or whatever.   If one were to simply watch Ramzpaul's video on the subject, one would get this impression. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHKU1n5kTWQ Nor is it an argument about having boundaries as he presents it.   To go further, he misrepresents two concepts: "Dont Punch To the Right" and "They'll Call You a Nazi Anyway." He misinterprets the former as meaning no criticism. This is laughable to be honest, that altright members dont criticize each other. http://blog.jim.com/politics/no-enemies-to-the-right/   And the latter is decontextualized. The point of that statement is that you get 0 lasting credit for publicly counter-signaling your own side. You're still basically a Nazi to opponents.   That is it. It's a tactical question.   The argument is about why anyone should trust the people who, once they immediately ran into bad PR, immediately turned on their own side publicly.   https://twitter.com/ThaRightStuff/status/801550317187960832 Key word, publicly. It does not mean you have to agree with the saluting. In fact, many dont but didnt make the issue public. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/11/the-great-hitler-salute-crisis-of-2016/ http://www.vdare.com/posts/juvenile-bravado-undercuts-npi-conference-triumph-and-vdare-com None of these people have had acrimony heaped upon them. The people who have... were people who took it publicly and created a divided front. Whereas before the AltRight was able to survive bad PR by doing so.   Same for the r/altright subreddit. On the posts regarding this controversy there were many who were mad about the saluting, and they still post there. https://www.reddit.com/r/altright/comments/5eodp5/roman_holidayspencer_statement/ https://www.reddit.com/r/altright/comments/5elvop/daily_shoah_special_altrinos_reckoning/ https://www.reddit.com/r/altright/comments/5eo6bo/the_altright_after_npi/ https://www.reddit.com/r/altright/comments/5epv55/lighten_up_you_faggots_the_alt_right_will_be/ https://www.reddit.com/r/altright/comments/5ere61/check_out_this_sick_fucking_meme_i_didnt_make_but/ You will see people being critical who still post.   I have heard of one person who was banned by he seems to be the outlier. No idea why he was banned but it was not common, and certainly not for just criticizing them https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRjmJIaYVmdSHBJJqfSH-bw/videos   For a more thorough breakdown of the pro-saluting side, one can read this: http://therightstuff.biz/2016/11/30/why-we-salute/ Key quote, "Obviously, the merits of giving salutes in public at a high profile conference like NPI is open to debate and reasonable minds can disagree on the issue but I thought it might be worthwhile to explain why some of us in the AltRight engage in the salutes in the first place. "   "I totally respect the opinions of allies who feel that the salutes are counterproductive but I have no patience for those who seek to engage in Buckleyite styled purges of those in the AltRight deemed too far right." Which is what Paul Joseph Watson and Cernovich (even if unintentionally) tried by saying Richard Spencer is a fed and that he doesnt represent the real altright and that the real altright are just edgy civic nationalist libertarians.   This is absurd because Richard Spencer coined the term and the altright was always racialist at the core. http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/11/23/race-and-the-alt-right/ Or, in a pithy image: http://i.imgur.com/pSmtaYt.jpg   And there is this article which gives insight into the mindset being employed here, and it mentions you by name (well Sargon of Mossad) http://therightstuff.biz/2016/11/30/sjws-on-the-right-a-lesson-on-war/