[09:38] <z651> SO GAIS I HEARD YOU'RE PROJECT WAS A CIRCLEJERK
[09:38] <%Curchack> ono
[09:39] <@TopHat> even if we sincerely said we werent
[09:40] <@TopHat> we'd just be called liars
[09:40] <@TopHat> and it would be disregarded
[09:40] <@TopHat> wouldnt it?
[09:40] <z651> Haven't you already, though?
[09:40] <@TopHat> yes
[09:40] <@TopHat> and we've been called liars
[09:40] <@TopHat> and it was disregarded
[09:41] <@TopHat> oh and just so it isnt brought up later can i get these factoids out of the way
[09:41] <@TopHat> we arent changing the names of the characters because its like calling your dog spot for two years and then getting a room mate
[09:42] <@TopHat> who had a girlfriend named spot
[09:42] <@TopHat> and the name offends him and you demand you change it
[09:42] <@TopHat> so its silly
[09:42] <%All-Maker> what even defines a circlejerk
[09:42] <@TopHat> speaking of silly i probably could have chosen a better name than spot
[09:42] <@TopHat> for that
[09:43] <%All-Maker> see spot run
[09:43] <@TopHat> its no secret that wip started out as some self gratifying SELF INSERT thing and i dont think anyone is dumb enough to deny that
[09:44] <@TopHat> but i sincerely think of them as characters rather than reflections now, at least personally
[09:44] <%All-Maker> tbh
[09:44] <%All-Maker> if im drawing caprice for example
[09:44] <%All-Maker> im not thinking like "hmm how cute can i make caps look"
[09:45] <z651> Caps r u kewt
[09:45] <%All-Maker> im thinking "how cute can i make caprice look" and the answer is sometimes pretty cute
[09:46] <%All-Maker> p.s. people need to stop throwing around the word meta because they dont know what it means
[09:47] <@TopHat> oh also [spoiler]we have characters in wip that arent references or nods to people or anything of the sort[/spoiler]
[09:47] <%All-Maker> we also have
[09:47] <%All-Maker> characters who originated based on people that arent devs and have no hand in the project
[09:48] <%All-Maker> and some of the devs dont have a characters that were ever based on them
[09:48] <%All-Maker> so it goes....
[09:48] <%All-Maker> also: talking about the thread = metadiscussion, yes
[09:48] <%All-Maker> but wip is not meta in the slightest
[09:48] <%All-Maker> it is not selfreferential
[09:49] <%All-Maker> promise
[09:49] <@TopHat> i wouldnt say its not that at all
[09:49] <@TopHat> oliver has a salty tears poster in his room
[09:49] <@TopHat> that alone disproves your statement
[09:49] <%All-Maker> oh
[09:49] <%All-Maker> you got me
[09:50] <%All-Maker> but if the writing starts making dumb self-aware nods to itself i'll edit the shit out of that