[15:39] Hello, anybody home? [15:39] Hello [15:39] <@Hamadyne> hello [15:40] No nickname given [15:40] specs is Mibbit@mib-566865C1.cable.virginm.net http://www.mibbit.com [15:40] specs on #MissingStars [15:40] specs using irc.va.us.mibbit.net Mibbit IRC Server [15:40] specs idle 45, signed on Fri Oct 25 15:38:46 2013 [15:41] Hi there, wondering if I can ask some questions about MS to put in thread. [15:41] Fire away [15:42] Awesome. First question put up on there is when can we expect a demo to try out? [15:44] A few months, conceivably. Even if we could put an exact date on it, I'm not sure we'd want to. Sorry it doesn't get any more specific than that. [15:45] May, at latest. [15:46] No worries, no every question can be answered I understand. Actually, I think it might be better to start off with introductions so we know who's who. [15:48] I don't know if you guys lurk there, but I'm from the ks inspired vns general. Decided question hour(s) would be good. I ask questions and jump to conclusions. [15:48] We thought this was the question time [15:49] It is, just unsure who devs what, figure it'd be good knowledge. [15:50] *** raithfyr_ (raithfyre@9DD7E4B6.95D29551.1F168FB3.IP) joined [15:50] Alright, so for the devs who are here: [15:50] TJeffy is the writer for the Holm Twins [15:50] *** raithfyr_ quit (Connection reset by peer) [15:50] Hamadyne is the writer for Jeanne [15:51] Raithfyre, who keeps disconnecting, is writing Isolda [15:52] Alabaster, who may or may not be here, writes a lot of general stuff [15:53] I'm a musician who also occasionally works on UI art and other assorted tasks that need doing [15:53] Ala's not actually here [15:53] You just missed Gloom, who writes Katja [15:54] That's about it for now [15:54] *** raithfyr_ (raithfyre@mib-D2789241.mycingular.net) joined [15:55] Wait, ks-inspired vn general? [15:56] *** raithfyr_ quit (Client exited) [15:57] http://boards.4chan.org/vg/res/51275547 it's difficult discussing other projects on ksg [15:57] And it's nice to meet you all. [15:57] Likewise [15:57] *** raithfyr_ (raithfyre@mib-D2789241.mycingular.net) joined [15:57] must be recent [15:57] Something I've been interested in since seeing the twins is whether or not they get a route each or a shared path or one twin only [15:57] didn't they call it /evng/ before? [15:57] It's been around for about a month, scrapping by slowly [15:58] nah, it's different, /evn/ is more or less dev advice and hating on projects for not being original enough [15:58] Each twin gets a route [15:59] oh [16:00] That's good to hear, I was so dejected when I got around to playing Kyou/Ryou's route in Clannad that it put me off a lot of twins [16:00] How diverse would you say the two are? It's quite a lot of responsibility writing two routes and twins are naturally connected. [16:01] the two routes* in terms of events. Not characters. [16:02] Yeah, I get you. It's kind of hard to describe, but they start out being identical (kind of like a second common route, if that makes sense?), then branching off. [16:02] So first you'd get slotted into the twins, and then more specifically into one of the two. [16:02] Heh. Slotted into the twins :| [16:03] nice to know there's a non-dev thread, though [16:03] the drama drove me away from keeping tabs on that thread [16:04] That and /evn/ was very slow paced. ksvns have spurts of activity from time to time [16:04] And that makes sense regarding the twins, alleviates a good amount of concern I had for them too. Obligatory threesome question? [16:05] I hope you don't mind if I leave that one hanging. [16:06] Don't want to kill all speculation. [16:07] Oh gods. Please tell me that as and when I write a VN I'm not going to be expected to have a group orgy... [16:11] Group orgies are a must and sex is indeed an important spoiler. Last question I have in mind for Holms is whether or not they share the same mental disorder? [16:11] Because I thought it over and with my limited understanding of that mental disorders, there would either need to be biological related causes [16:12] or well simulated ones, since it must be hard for two people to be effected by something the same way [16:13] I want to tell you, but my peers are shooting me disapproving looks. [16:13] Sorry. [16:13] Good news is, we should be showing more about each character fairly soon [16:15] I understand, I doubt any disorders will be disclosed here officially since (judging by one or two blog posts about people affected being closed off about it) discovering disorders must be part of the story. I'm more curious if the connection is biological because twins. [16:16] Actually, when roughly do you find out what the girls have going on up there in the story? Within act one or does it vary? [16:16] Yeah, I understand where you're coming from. And again, sorry. I don't want to be Mr. No. [16:16] You'll basically know everyone's disorder by the end of Act 1, but not the true depth of it [16:18] That's good, I'm interested to see how my presumptions of disorders affect my choices in the game. [16:18] What sort of information are you planning to reveal fairly soon then? [16:19] Character introductions beyond superficial fluff that we posted before [16:19] Will we get glorious artwork with each? [16:19] There's artwork involved, but not of the character variety (so far at least) [16:19] One or two, depending on how we present them, might have character art [16:20] Ah, all right then. I think it'd be good to have an art update associated with each character, since I only discovered that Lena was dfc recently [16:20] for the longest time I thought she was the best Halibel from bleach cosplayer in the world haha [16:20] If only Kosher were here [16:20] He'd probably hug you [16:22] dfc? [16:22] Lena's breasts been a problem for him or something? Also kev, I listened to some of the tracks and I'm curious whether the final product will have midi like that also [16:22] delicious flat chest [16:22] Ah... [16:22] Not straight midi like what I posted [16:22] Nah, Kosher just has a thing for washboards [16:23] Those were for people who wanted to learn the songs with Synthesia or a light-up keyboard [16:23] Full songs have actual instruments [16:23] And more than piano [16:24] I need to see if there's been any attempts on youtube. Real instruments is quite fancy, I figure most VNs have to use software. [16:24] In fact, making those piano arrangements was kind of hard because I never wrote any of these songs to actually be playable by one person on a piano [16:24] Not that real [16:24] I can't think of a VN that doesn't have piano heh. [16:24] ah. [16:24] Although one or two tracks has some real guitar [16:25] If we do end up using real instruments somewhere, it won't be in the demo [16:25] We need to figure out what we're actually keeping before we go through that trouble [16:25] We have a lot of music, and I already know some of it won't appear in the final product [16:26] Let's see Lena's theme composed purely with the sound of teeth gnashing and chomping. [16:26] In fact, my latest piece I uploaded almost as a joke, since it's plainly obvious it has no place in the final product [16:26] It sounds like a combination of the main Uncharted theme and the Call of Duty Zombies theme [16:27] Wasn't able to draw any comparisons when I listened, but then again I haven't played either of those [16:28] Are there any character "pairings" so to speak besides the twins? Isolda and Jeanne are both into astronomy so is it safe to assume they're acquaintances at least? [16:28] I never posted this piece on the public blog [16:28] Ah [16:28] All the stuff on the blog will most likely be in the final product [16:29] *** Raithfyre quit (Connection reset by peer) [16:29] <@Hamadyne> Isolda and Jeanne are friends, and do astronomy things. [16:29] *** Raithfyre (Raithfyre@mib-6044501.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) joined [16:29] GUISE [16:29] IT'S AN INTERROGATION [16:30] All things on the blog aside from Renee Baum, who needed to be pointed out to me that she's just an april fools by someone else. [16:30] S-she was my favorite girl for a while [16:30] Same here [16:31] Yup, same [16:31] Mine too =( [16:31] <@Hamadyne> My condolences to all of you. [16:31] We might bring her back in the background of a scene [16:31] Or I'll at least force the issue [16:33] She's the girl that protag always sees at the edge of his vision, but vanishes just before he can see. Assuming the protag is still schtizo like it says on the forum concept art ages back. [16:33] Are we allowed to know what protag has at least? [16:34] Sorry, but all disorders are under wraps. [16:34] <@Hamadyne> You've activated my nope card. [16:34] I know that kills discussion like few other things, but alas. [16:35] We put down a fairly specific date for our demo [16:35] That's already quite the reveal [16:35] We don't want to sound ungrateful or anything. [16:36] It's just pretty important to some of us to keep the disorders secret until the demo drops. [16:36] It's not an issue, some things are better left discovered, I just thought it might be something we know off the bat so it wouldn't be so bad to let out. [16:36] You will know it right off the bat [16:37] <@Hamadyne> ^ [16:37] We just want to color your perceptions in the right order [16:37] Opening line "I was born with the insatiable urge to eat feces." and then MS becomes a completely different tone of game [16:38] So, it'll be obvious in the same way as KS essentially starts with a heart attack? [16:38] Not quite in the same way, but you'll know what's up within ten minutes of reading. [16:39] We hint at it literally 12 lines in [16:39] Speaking of tone, where would you say it lands? Like, is the potential for something like something along the lines of KS alpha stuff there? [16:39] Like double suicide? [16:39] Not quite that dark [16:40] There's definitely plenty of darkness, if you go looking for it. [16:40] Well Katja seems very "I ripped out my tendons so nobody would expect me to play an instrument AND sing" with the one or two concepts with her wounded. [16:41] I don't want to say anything about Katja [16:41] She's rather complex [16:41] Deepest character? [16:41] Suffice to say, Gloom has written a character I didn't think was possible [16:41] Up to interpretation, really. [16:42] We joke about how much more he has written than everyone else, but he makes a good case for writing that much a lot of the time [16:42] She's not just the game's buxom sex appeal. [16:43] Jeanne's the sex appeal for me, but then again I like glasses. Glasses better stay on in fun time. Who's got the shortest route from the look of things then? [16:43] Is "not Katja's" specific enough? [16:44] Probably not the Twins either [16:44] Kidding aside, you know that about as well as we do at the moment. [16:44] But I think we can all put money on Katja's route being the longest [16:45] Isolda' probably won't be that long, judging by my notes so far [16:45] Relatively speaking. [16:47] Figured twins might be shorter since they share stuff earlier. I know you can't say what disorders are what, but has anybody guessed correctly in the threads for stuff yet? (for those that have lurked there) [16:48] I haven't really lurked on those threads too hard, so I couldn't say. [16:48] <@Hamadyne> Same, couldn't tell you either. [16:49] I'm sure someone has guessed correctly [16:49] Don't know who they are, but I bet they have [16:49] <@Hamadyne> Somewhere, somewhen. [16:51] There's been one or two guesses mainly for twins, isolda and lena, not sure if there's been any for Jeanne or Anna. It feels like there's hidden hints in the character posts though (Red meat) [16:51] To be honest, I'm not sure how much of the original introductions still hold true [16:52] We've lost (and re-hired) two writers since those were posted [16:52] *hired two new [16:52] <@Hamadyne> I'd consider the majority of those obsolete, tbh [16:52] The intros more or less hold true. [16:52] <@Hamadyne> Some details may be outdated. [16:52] Yeah. [16:53] *** raithfyr_ quit (Client exited) [16:54] Well as long as annaliese is still best girl with large clothes and otaku attitude, I'm happy. Actually, revisiting the pairing question, do Katja and Annaliese have any relation? Both seem to have a music connection [16:56] <@Hamadyne> The two of them don't have much of a relation, if any. [16:56] Kinda sucks that she was the only girl who didn't have a "nationality, blood type" etc. bio posting though [16:57] <@Hamadyne> Blame that on the writer :p [16:57] I blame it on the co-ordinator. [16:57] :D [17:00] Hmmph, well hopefully it's thrown in with the character updates. Any word regarding important side characters at all? Like, are there any as important like Misha was to Shizune? [17:02] We have some very important side characters [17:02] We have three that are especially important [17:03] That's right, we have three Mishas [17:03] I hope none of them are as big a fake out as her. [17:03] <@Hamadyne> Where is your God now? [17:03] Dead. [17:03] I killed him. [17:03] I've always wanted to be turned down by three lesbians. [17:04] Which routes are they in? Gonna assume not twins since they'd work as their own side character in either story [17:07] Katja, Twins, and Isolda, most significantly [17:07] But side characters will have a role in most every route. [17:08] delicious busty psychiatrist when? but joking aside, how much of a sanitarium is the school? Are they allowed to leave the grounds at all, what are some of the local attractions? [17:11] And for that matter, where is the setting in the first place and what's the common language? So many girls are foreign [17:11] <@Hamadyne> There's a separate building for the more "delicate" students to go to. Other than that, the rest of the school is fairly standard, with some changes to accommodate all students. [17:11] So no school disco? :p [17:12] <@Hamadyne> Students can leave, but they need to fill out paperwork and need to be back before a certain time. [17:12] School's in Vienna [17:12] <@Hamadyne> Outside Vienna, to be more specific. [17:13] Does this mean everyone needs to speak Ostrich? [17:13] <@Hamadyne> As for language, it's an international school, so English is spoken by the staff/students. [17:14] <@Hamadyne> However, this doesn't mean that the language barrier isn't present. You'll find out about that as you read the VN. [17:15] "delicate" students have a special school blazer, which folds into a straight jacket at the pull of a string. Are the delicates allowed to interact with anyone else at all? [17:16] >annaliese doesn't speak english [17:16] >communicates by playing anime scenes quoting what she wants to say [17:16] would end my heart [17:17] I'm taking notes for her path writer [17:17] I like this idea [17:17] <@Hamadyne> lol [17:17] I can see pranking of the delicates being very possible... [17:17] :DD [17:17] >Erik walking by the delicate building [17:17] >hears beautiful singing [17:17] >"comforts" her [17:18] >katja in the window lets down her long hair so Erik can climb up to love her [17:18] >halfway up, cuts hair off with yandere glint in eye [17:18] The most important thing to the staff is being accommodating while still encouraging progression. [17:18] "comfort" . Pfeh. Still annoyed about that. [17:18] At least I think that's protag's name, I just remember he had glasses and the girl in kyoukai no kanata reminds me of him [17:19] So they don't really forbid interaction between students, but some students are definitely closer monitored than others. [17:20] Oh, does Katja only have one eye or is that just a thing she does? [17:21] It's a somewhat long story [17:21] One that we go into later [17:22] You'll learn more about it during her character intro [17:22] A little more [17:22] Well, we say intro. [17:22] We mean "elaboration." [17:22] <@Hamadyne> That's a word. [17:24] Wait? Are we talking about squishy-butt? [17:25] Or am I confused? [17:25] <@Hamadyne> Katja right now, dread. [17:25] I must be horribly mixed up. [17:26] Will Isolda get mad at me if I claim tea is vastly superior? [17:26] to coffee* [17:28] <@Hamadyne> Isolda won't hate you. [17:30] She's not the type to hate people. [17:31] Good, I hate coffee. In any case, the bios seem to make mention at each girl's favorite media quite a bit. This might be a hint to something, like a common element in those things reflects on the character, but what comes to my mind is the possibility of these things popping up in game at any point [17:32] Discussion about popular mediums are fairly natural, but I worry I won't understand what anyone is referencing if that's the case [17:32] We don't get that detailed [17:32] It matters a little for Anna, but not much for anyone else [17:33] Yeah, for the others, it's more of a character-building thing. [17:34] >character building [17:34] so with enough effort, could I pick out disorders from their tastes? [17:35] I really don't think so. If you can pull some next-level Sherlock shit, though, more power to you. [17:36] Their tastes aren't related to their disorders. [17:36] He might be Adam West Batman, don't underestimate him [17:36] <@Hamadyne> What Jeffy said. [17:39] I want to try and piece something together with Isolda's films, but I haven't seen Manos. [17:40] Neither have I [17:40] But Wikipedia has: "It is widely recognized to be one of the worst films ever made." [17:40] <@Hamadyne> OH man, is it ever. [17:40] Kind of running out of questions because I'm not imaginative enough, but Lena's mask looks very painful and unwieldy. Is she tanned or delicious brown? [17:41] Can it be both? [17:41] I'm actually not sure it can be [17:41] * TJeffy is not so good at facts [17:41] She could be /more/ tanned as someone with dark skin. [17:42] Well tanned implies tan lines or external. Delicious brown is more of an inherited thing, at least to me it is [17:43] Like, Saori from LD is tanned, but the AiB girls are delicious brown [17:43] Saori's redtips, yeah? [17:44] Yeah [17:44] (speaking of which, what's with devs and red tips? Saori has 'em, twins have 'em) [17:44] <@Hamadyne> Technically, Lena is a bit of both. [17:45] Good question. I wasn't here for the twins' design, so I couldn't tell ya. [17:45] <@Hamadyne> DreadLindwyrm pretty much nailed it on the head with Lena. [17:46] She's a greedy delicious brown chain chomp [17:46] *** keviniskool quit (Client exited) [17:47] So, I assume all the girls we see have mental problems that at least leave them broadly able to function in society, albeit with support? No one is so broken they can't be allowed near society? [17:48] More or less, yeah. Nobody is "broken" beyond help. [17:48] Nobody is wearing anyone's skin. [17:48] That's such a good idea. :D [17:49] (Apologies to anyone whose fetish that is) [17:49] A battle VN where the combatants wear each other's skin when they win in order to harness their protection against AIDS [17:50] <@Hamadyne> Damn, he's uncovered our next project, guys. [17:50] Revisiting my last question, what're the local attractions by the school? Don't think any were listed, but what kind of environment and date spots can we expect? [17:50] Well an older question* [17:51] Typical city and city-outskirts fare [17:51] Parks, restaurants [17:51] <@Hamadyne> Vienna has a lot to offer. Cafes, coffee houses, and plenty of shopping. [17:51] Theatre, gardens, forests? [17:51] Opera. :D [17:51] Lions and tigers and bears, too [17:51] <@Hamadyne> oh my [17:51] The Ring Cycle :DD [17:51] I'd feed a bear to Lena [17:52] Live [17:52] The best form of rare [17:52] The meat will grind through the bars like a cheese grater [17:52] then she can drink the blood through a straw [17:53] Is that how she eats anyway, through straws and stuff? [17:53] You're confusing the bear scene with the fellatio scene [17:53] Literal meaning behind the word dickcheese [17:53] Also I need to request a starwars parody of Lena removing her mask some time [17:54] You mean she doesn't fellate the bear? o_O [17:55] Nah, that'd be too grisly [17:55] <@Hamadyne> *grizzly [17:55] I suppose that is the polar opposite of the mood you want. [17:55] [Hama explains jokes at weddings, funerals, birthdays, and bar mitzvahs] [17:56] "Weddings, funerals, and other joyful occasions..." [17:56] I don't need the specifics, just the bear necessities. [17:56] Stop panda-ing to the audience. [17:56] I don't drink this is going in the right direction [17:57] Maybe we should let these puns hibernate for now [17:58] Puns are okay every now and vend [18:01] I suppose they're fine, so long as my waifu doesn't end up giving me blue bears during sex. [18:01] <@Hamadyne> God forbid [18:01] Back to the question though, is Lena allowed to remove her mask/does she need to sip things cutely through a straw? [18:02] Oh, VN-related talk on the channel. What is this? [18:02] (speaking of backs, do the girls like to do it with protection or bearback?) [18:04] <@Hamadyne> I believe she can do either, specs. [18:04] <@Hamadyne> It's up to her. [18:04] The mask thing, that is. [18:05] <@Hamadyne> yup [18:05] Now that suggests pica to me. [18:06] I imagine protection is her choice too. Someone who's into hardcore rap and twilight must dream of crazy balls to the walls bollocking [18:06] Actually, there was a theory that Lena might be into lycanthropy to a severe degree on the threads [18:07] I'll have to consult with Kosher re: balls-to-the-walls bollocking [18:08] Lena actually runs a crew of psychos and sociopaths [18:08] They travel by bike and steal lunch money [18:09] Supa sekrit thing. None of them are crazy. It's all a front to contain the protagonist. :p [18:10] She sounds very much like someone I know who's got the same kind of mindsets you find in those films with an interesting narrator casually divulging into a rather bizarre things, like a more fangirlish version of a clockwork orang [18:10] That's something I imagined at one point, Dread [18:10] Anyone who likes Twilight SHOULD use contraception. They shouldn't reproduce. [18:10] We'll see, but I am excited for her [18:11] that it's all a front to see how people would react to a predisposition of people having mental disorders [18:11] when they're all perfectly fine and it's more of a test to see how we interpret normal behavior [18:15] Will we ever game with Jeanne? [18:15] <@Hamadyne> Yes. [18:16] Hopefully not mario party [18:16] this kills the romance possibilitys [18:16] <@Hamadyne> this kills the boner [18:16] Multiplayer loli incest VN reading. Oreimo style. [18:17] (Otaku pandering. Just joking. Kill it with fire.) [18:18] MP VNs. Interesting concept. [18:18] :D [18:19] Catherine did something *kind* of like that [18:19] Where it showed you the breakdown of who chose what [18:19] Closest thing I can think of is the divinity game being made by larian, where conversation choices can be selected and rebuked by the other player or decided with a coin flip [18:20] I could see it as a way to choose a "canon" ending for the first game in a series. [18:20] >Pieces of concept art: 350 [18:20] How much of this is lewd and will we be able to see it one day? [18:20] A solid portion of it is lewd [18:20] Chicks with dicks: 1(?) = one of the twins [18:21] And we'll have to decide later if we release any of the concept art [18:21] I have my theories on that. [18:21] A lot of it was done by peeps who are no longer with us [18:21] It might just be someone who's hiding a full beard behind a mask... :p [18:22] I hope the consideration is on the strong side of approval than not. Having a lot of art to fawn over post KS was great, and the pre-KS stuff gave a lot of build up personality. More of the projects should show more concept art in my opinion, even if it isn't top quality [18:23] If Lena does have lycanthropy, she won't shave because she believes she's a wolf [18:23] that means fuzzy legs guys [18:23] fuzzy. legs. [18:27] *** awaybaster changed nick to alabaster [18:27] <@alabaster> HELLO I AM PRESENT [18:27] <@Hamadyne> woah hey there [18:28] <@alabaster> did you miss me [18:28] <@Hamadyne> yes [18:28] <@alabaster> :> [18:29] Hey there [18:29] <@alabaster> Hello. [18:29] <@alabaster> You look new. [18:29] *** raithfyr_ (raithfyre@mib-6044501.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) joined [18:29] I've been interrogating all night. My newest question is regarding the choice system, how are you guys planning to make that work? [18:30] Sorry, would you mind clarifying? [18:31] <@Hamadyne> He's talking about choosing an option in the VN, Jeffy. [18:31] Are the choices a matter of "+this girl" type of system, similar to KS, or is there a different approach? [18:31] Relationship points versus decision tree? [18:31] Yeah, and how strongly do the story paths in the first act split based on those things? [18:32] <@alabaster> Oh, that's a fun question because I'm responsible for most of this stuff. [18:32] <@Hamadyne> go ala go [18:32] * DreadLindwyrm stares. [18:32] *** raithfyr_ quit (Client exited) [18:32] Raithfyr ain't having none of that [18:32] <@alabaster> The original outline was more point-based. [18:33] <@alabaster> With the same basic sequence of events. [18:33] <@alabaster> Which doesn't feel as organic as it could. [18:34] <@alabaster> Then Hama did a version that was almost entirely about the branching structure and much less about points. [18:34] <@alabaster> I thought the problem with that was that much of what you see in Act 1 is determined basically by a couple choices you make in the first few scenes. [18:35] <@alabaster> So the current outline is sort of a balance between the two. [18:36] <@alabaster> There's enough branching to make the writers' heads spin, but a lot of it is of the scene-variation type rather than getting completely different content. [18:36] That's my main concern too, if you don't even get to meet all the girls by time you're locked into a route it'd be a bit lame, at least as far as exploring the VN goes. Not the worst kind of setup, but I like giving each girl a chance initially [18:36] <@alabaster> You definitely get to meet all of them. [18:36] <@alabaster> Let me open up the flowchart. [18:38] I have to admit I'm not a fan of strictly branching ones since it's easy to get locked so your initial choices are all that matters. Worse still, you get the effect I've seen in a few games where you effectively reject girl 1, and it offers you girl 2, if you refuse her you get offered girl 3 and so on, until finally you get a girl that you haven't so much chosen as got by default by... [18:38] <@alabaster> There are definitely scenarios where you may only see them once or twice, though. [18:38] ...refusing everyone else. [18:38] <@alabaster> What I'm pretty proud of is that how much time you spend with most girls is up to you. [18:39] <@alabaster> So you get your initial encounter with Lena or Jeanne, say, and then you have a very obvious in that would allow Erik to hang out with them more. [18:39] <@alabaster> Which you can choose to take or not. [18:39] Do you have an option for what happens if you outright reject everyone? [18:40] <@alabaster> It's not an option per se. [18:40] Similarly, if you're good to everyone, is there a "default" choice, or are you forced to make a choice so you can't be the good guy to everyone? [18:40] <@alabaster> But if you're super anti-social, there's a path for that. [18:41] <@alabaster> There's no default choice. [18:41] The roof to St. Dymphna's is locked, if that's the kind of thing you're asking about [18:41] Does anybody here use a client? I was going to save the entirity of this chat log, but mibbit browser only goes so far [18:41] <@Hamadyne> I do [18:41] <@Hamadyne> I can send it to you when this is all done, if you'd like. [18:42] I wasn't, I was just wondering what the failing to be a human being result was, and if there's someone you sort of end up with if you're generally the good guy. [18:42] If you wouldn't mind, please? I've been jotting down questions, but some want the raw experience for themselves. [18:42] I've seen odd results from that with some games. :| [18:43] <@Hamadyne> sure thing. PM me your email and I'll send it over. [18:43] Also the choice system sounds interesting, but hard to imagine. In my mind it sounds like scenes have several "break" points within them where you can just go "yup, no, bored" [18:43] Alternatively hama, you could just pastebin it and link it. [18:43] <@Hamadyne> ah, that's true [18:43] <@Hamadyne> might as well [18:44] <@alabaster> Not quite, specs. [18:44] oh, that works too [18:44] that's what I was going to do anyway [18:44] specs - one game I was playing has a choice along the lines of "Help her pick up her stuff" "Just watch" "Walk away" [18:44] <@Hamadyne> okay, I'll pastebin it [18:44] What game was that? Sounds bizarre [18:45] Erm. Grisaia no Kaijitsu I think. [18:45] Basically you're walking through town and one of the girls drops her shopping. [18:45] It didn't have three options about helping or not helping Sachi (several occasions). [18:46] Like I say it was something like that. Might just have been "Help" "Walk away" [18:46] The was one with "Yujiyuji" "Juicy Yuuji" and "Mr. Standoffish Man". [18:46] Oh gods. [18:46] <@Hamadyne> shh don't spoil [18:46] But most branches had only 2 options. [18:46] <@alabaster> Aeris dies. [18:46] Are there any choices that don't have consequences, but just change the situation of a scene, like petting shizune or not in her alpha? [18:46] I never did check if that had any relevance other than a dialogue choice. [18:47] Hamadyne, not much a spoiler. I don't even know if it make and difference after that scene. It's basically a brief and returning branching before in the common route. [18:47] I think however that in ******** [18:48] ********'s route, you get that choice mentioned ONCE by Amane. Very irrelevant to the plot. [18:48] <@Hamadyne> k [18:48] There's a dialogue choice later that (I think) remembers the choice. [18:48] <@alabaster> >petting Shizune [18:48] <@alabaster> Wait what. [18:49] KS Alpha apparently. [18:49] <@Hamadyne> aw man did I miss this [18:49] <@Hamadyne> dang [18:49] I have to presume with a different personality. [18:49] <@Hamadyne> Anyway, back to the question at hand: [18:50] <@Hamadyne> All the choices do something. [18:50] <@alabaster> The question at hand: why is my glass empty? [18:50] <@Hamadyne> At least, as far as Act One goes. [18:53] <@alabaster> It's okay. I fixed it. [18:54] <@Hamadyne> yay [18:56] Are there any drunk scene? [18:57] <@alabaster> Perhaps. [18:58] Probably the twins because vodka [18:58] ...drunken incest? [18:59] <@alabaster> Perhaps. [19:04] Why call it missing stars? [19:06] <@alabaster> I think Hama is the only one here who actually can answer that. [19:06] <@Hamadyne> To answer: Why not? [19:06] I'm pretty sure one of the reasons was wanting to keep the acronym MS [19:07] And "More Sex" wasn't deemed "acceptable for the tone of the game" [19:07] "moe sluts?" [19:08] "Mad Sistas" [19:08] "Making Smoothies" [19:11] Hopefully we've got more Brits on here for this one. [19:11] This isn't just /any/ VN, THIS is an M&S VN... [19:11] That orgasmic voice and music needs to play over the H scenes [19:13] "This isn't just a normal isolda. This is Isolda covered in whipped cream, strawberry shavings and fanny juices" with an animation of cream being poured on her with low lighting [19:14] * Raithfyre takes notes [19:20] Well I'm outta questions for the day I think. Any information you guys were hoping to let out anyway for me to throw in? [19:20] Nothing really. Thanks for coming by. [19:21] <@Hamadyne> Yeah, thanks for visiting! [19:21] <@Hamadyne> I'll put this up on pastebin in a bit. [19:21] <@Hamadyne> And a forum post for those who missed all dis [19:22] I'd do it before our friend leaves, Hama [19:22] <@Hamadyne> k [19:22] I don't think most people come by the forum [19:22] <@Hamadyne> hold on~