[5/6/2013 2:13:40 PM] Captain Forgebeard: removed me from the contacts eh? [5/6/2013 2:14:31 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Of course. [5/6/2013 2:14:48 PM] Emperor Octavarius: I'm in no mood to deal with smartasses at the moment. [5/6/2013 2:15:15 PM] Emperor Octavarius: I came to you seeking help. [5/6/2013 2:15:30 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Yet I've got anything but, save for some vague details and some energy tweaking hocus pocus. [5/6/2013 2:15:42 PM] Captain Forgebeard: since you dont understand the gravity of the situation i was in let me spell it out for you [5/6/2013 2:15:56 PM] Captain Forgebeard: i was receiving death threats, not only astrally, but by two different people physically [5/6/2013 2:16:05 PM] Captain Forgebeard: one of them being a very close friend of mine, who is jealous of my relationship [5/6/2013 2:16:17 PM] Captain Forgebeard: you might know him, pleeb. [5/6/2013 2:16:31 PM] Captain Forgebeard: so im sorry if your starting out in energy manipuilation is frustrating for you [5/6/2013 2:16:45 PM] Captain Forgebeard: i was a little busy dealing with things bigger than the inability to move energy from your left to your right [5/6/2013 2:17:10 PM] Emperor Octavarius: And how was this difficult to relay last night? [5/6/2013 2:17:20 PM] Captain Forgebeard: i was a little busy trying to save my relationship [5/6/2013 2:17:36 PM] Captain Forgebeard: i had other things on my mind than "oh how can i cater to octavs needs tonight" [5/6/2013 2:17:59 PM] Emperor Octavarius: That's hardly the point. [5/6/2013 2:18:11 PM] Emperor Octavarius: You could've said "I'm busy". Simple as that. [5/6/2013 2:18:26 PM] Emperor Octavarius: I would've understood. [5/6/2013 2:18:46 PM] Captain Forgebeard: im sorry i didnt realize that your getting free training from me in energy manipulation was more important than not only my life but the relationship with the only person i actually care about [5/6/2013 2:18:56 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Furthermore, this energy manipulation of yours is questionable at best. [5/6/2013 2:19:27 PM] Emperor Octavarius: To say nothing of the "pulling out" business. If I were pulled out, then I would not be in my physical body. The astral body is the true self. [5/6/2013 2:20:31 PM] Emperor Octavarius: I'm not some blithering idiot. [5/6/2013 2:21:01 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Who just found out about astral projection last week or whatever. I've been reading about it for a while -- since 2006. It's hardly a new concept for me. [5/6/2013 2:21:34 PM] Captain Forgebeard: mental projection has always been about being aware of both the physical and the astral [5/6/2013 2:21:37 PM] Emperor Octavarius: I heard how great you were, hence why I asked you for assistance. I was hoping you would finally put my frustrations at ease, and I would be projecting. [5/6/2013 2:21:53 PM] Captain Forgebeard: sleep projection is what you crave, and i cant give it to you [5/6/2013 2:22:50 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Mental projection is merely hypnotic visualization, as far as I'm concerned. I haven't heard of it before in all of my reading; not from Robert Monroe, not from anyone who I know for a fact has projected. [5/6/2013 2:23:00 PM] Captain Forgebeard: and if you wanna be an uptight asshole about it, that just means theres one less ponyfucker that i have to care about [5/6/2013 2:23:07 PM] Captain Forgebeard: ARE YOU DAFT [5/6/2013 2:23:12 PM] Captain Forgebeard: THE MONROE TECHNIQUE IS MENTAL PROJECTION [5/6/2013 2:23:13 PM] Captain Forgebeard: HOLY SHIT [5/6/2013 2:23:16 PM] Captain Forgebeard: please just go [5/6/2013 2:23:31 PM] Emperor Octavarius: I shall be warning everyone of your dubious practices, so as to make sure you don't make a dime. [5/6/2013 2:23:35 PM] Captain Forgebeard: i dont care [5/6/2013 2:23:39 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Good. [5/6/2013 2:23:40 PM] Captain Forgebeard: i wasnt looking to make money [5/6/2013 2:23:41 PM] Captain Forgebeard: i was looking to help [5/6/2013 2:23:48 PM] Emperor Octavarius: No. [5/6/2013 2:23:50 PM] Emperor Octavarius: You said it yourself. [5/6/2013 2:23:54 PM] Emperor Octavarius: You don't care about anyone. [5/6/2013 2:24:01 PM] Captain Forgebeard: i care about one person [5/6/2013 2:24:05 PM] Captain Forgebeard: and im not good enough for her [5/6/2013 2:24:10 PM] Captain Forgebeard: so im going to help others until i am [5/6/2013 2:24:24 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Well, I'd say you have a long way to go. [5/6/2013 2:24:31 PM] Captain Forgebeard: says the ponyfucker who couldnt last 2 days [5/6/2013 2:25:05 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Ah yes. Now I'm being verbally lambasted by someone who reckons himself well-learned. [5/6/2013 2:25:17 PM] Emperor Octavarius: You originate from those tulpa threads, yes? [5/6/2013 2:25:24 PM] Captain Forgebeard: no [5/6/2013 2:25:34 PM] Captain Forgebeard: i pre-date the current tulpa phenomina [5/6/2013 2:25:44 PM] Captain Forgebeard: ive been manipulating energy for years [5/6/2013 2:25:50 PM] Captain Forgebeard: since i was 16 [5/6/2013 2:25:53 PM] Captain Forgebeard: 6 years now [5/6/2013 2:26:06 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Sure doesn't show. I feel pretty much the same as I did before all this mumbo jumbo. [5/6/2013 2:26:17 PM] Emperor Octavarius: If my chakras were truly opened, I would be faring much better in all my faculties. [5/6/2013 2:26:20 PM] Captain Forgebeard: takes the will to change before you can change [5/6/2013 2:26:36 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Certainly. I never doubted that. [5/6/2013 2:26:50 PM] Captain Forgebeard: chakras naturally close, they were open, you felt sensation, they were closed, it stopped [5/6/2013 2:26:53 PM] Captain Forgebeard: they do not stay open [5/6/2013 2:26:58 PM] Emperor Octavarius: I felt nothing. [5/6/2013 2:27:13 PM] Captain Forgebeard: [Friday, May 03, 2013 6:16 PM] Emperor Octavarius:   <<< There's a dull ache in my head. Feels empty. [5/6/2013 2:27:20 PM] Captain Forgebeard: [Friday, May 03, 2013 6:18 PM] Emperor Octavarius:   <<< It feels slightly alleviated. Getting a weird tingling in my fingertips. [5/6/2013 2:27:22 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Which turned out to be a headache. [5/6/2013 2:27:26 PM] Captain Forgebeard: [Friday, May 03, 2013 6:21 PM] Emperor Octavarius:   <<< My face was starting to tingle, too. [5/6/2013 2:27:39 PM] Captain Forgebeard: [Friday, May 03, 2013 6:24 PM] Emperor Octavarius:   <<< A little pain in my temples, but I doubt that's from the tweaking. Right now, there's a subtle feeling of fullness, if that makes sense. Looking around my room, there's a little more clarity, too. [5/6/2013 2:27:40 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Well, yes. Because I was lying still and allowing my body to relax. [5/6/2013 2:27:50 PM] Captain Forgebeard: you can either lie or tell the thruth [5/6/2013 2:27:54 PM] Captain Forgebeard: there is no middle ground [5/6/2013 2:27:58 PM] Emperor Octavarius: That was the truth. [5/6/2013 2:27:58 PM] Captain Forgebeard: you were obviously lying just now [5/6/2013 2:28:04 PM] Emperor Octavarius: I'm not denying what I said prior. [5/6/2013 2:28:14 PM] Captain Forgebeard: then you are admitting to lying [5/6/2013 2:28:45 PM] Emperor Octavarius: No, you're using my words to try and prove yourself right, when in fact, the sensations I experienced were just typical. I was relaxed, I felt tingling. [5/6/2013 2:28:49 PM] Emperor Octavarius: Nothing more, nothing less. [5/6/2013 2:28:56 PM] Captain Forgebeard: ya know the last thing i need right now is to take shit from some edgy teenager [5/6/2013 2:28:57 PM] Captain Forgebeard: good luck [5/6/2013 2:29:04 PM] Emperor Octavarius: I'm 25, thank you.