Title: The-Pinkamena - Part 1/3 Author: WimpyMumbler Pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/tax42m79 First Edit: Sunday 3rd of February 2013 03:44:06 PM CDT Last Edit: Sunday 3rd of February 2013 03:44:06 PM CDT Note: -- with no post number indicates that the poster replied to himself.       Begin: 2012-11-04 11:04:17 Name: The-Pinkamena    -- 5494178:   I wouldn't want more then one or two tulpas.    -- 5495456:   Everytime anypony says going to force.    -- 5496143:   I made a second tulpa yesterday and it may be in love with my first tulpa. My first tulpa is scared. But she's slowly warming up to the idea of her.   How do I stop them from teaming up and plotting against me?    -- 5496238:   >>5496160   Does that mean I should or shouldn't trust the mashmallows?    -- 5496328:   >>5496268   The first tulpa prefers rape that involves a knife in my neck.    -- 5496491:   >>5496422   I intentionally made her a evil, psycho, buzzkill, angry, endless blackhole of anger.   Wut do?  -- I'm thinking I can just focus on vinyl and not my first tulpa and she'll go away. And hope Vinyl doesn't hate me for making her love intrest vanish.    -- 5496855:   >>5496738   Vinyl is like 2 days old. I was telling my first tulpa it was being a pain and I would replace it if it did not chill out.   Then I did some half trying visualization and thought of a super basic personality that would be the opposite of the first one. Then...I went oh crap, I still see her after I stopped and then 2 pony tulpas.   Vinyl, can talk...sort of. Her heads kind of empty or something. She usually just says one word if shes not talking about the second tulpa. Shes still super basic.   She's mainly just focused on the first tulpa.    -- 5497043:   >>5496923   I had a headache for hours yesterday because the first tulpa would not chillout.   The first tulpa was right there as I was working on vinyl's body. She was messing with it. So it might be fair to say vinyl is our Tulpa. (And explain why vinyl is so crazy about her and seems to want everything she wants).    -- 5497270:   >>5497188   Does sound too clingy. Mine tries to prevent me from thinking certain thoughts or typing out certain things.   If I do headache/head pressure. Jealousy thing happens too.    -- 5497339:   >>5497266   Was it called something like ripples/wind/waves on the surface of the ocean?    -- 5497668:   I tried telling my first tulpa it no longer has traits for bitterness, revenge, jealousy, giving me constant headaches, ect that make me wanna erase her.   Time will tell if it works. Any cases of changing a tulpas personality at some point. Then a tulpa existing a long time and forcing its old traits back once its fully imposed?    -- 5497812:   >>5497761   Eric cartman would be a good voice for a female tulpa. Or how about bill cliention?   My fellow host, tonight I regret to inform you that I did not have adult relations with the trashman    -- 5499275:   Guys I have another problem. I have some Fun in Da-middles cupcake mix. I'm holding the huge package of the creamy vanilla filling you put in the 12 cupcake middles.   Do I eat the filling straight from the pouch? Or bite the bullet and follow the cupcake recipe?    -- 5499456:   >>5499353   I don't have a rainbow dash tulpa because I didn't want worst pony. I just have pinkamena and vinyl. And vinyl is pinkamena's girlfriend.   Also I opened the pouch. Does have enough sugar.    -- 5499630:   Wouldn't want to feel my dreams physically. Because I keep dying in them.    -- 5499844:   >>5499648   That sounds kinky, but I don't hit my tulpas    -- 5500818:   I haven't decided what vinyl should smell like yet. Pinkamena I got a bottle of raspberry extract because her mane color is brilliant raspberry.    -- 5500925:   >>5500869   I'm imaging an uncle rukus pony.    -- 5501090:   >>5501004   All these feels may help you.    -- 5502776:   A new thread just as I put cupcakes into the oven (Without the frosting I ate earlier)    -- 5502886:   >>5502799   They should still taste okay. They are cookies and cream flavored.   The hard part was getting rarity and nightmare moon into the same room at the same time.    -- 5503050:   Anyway they'll be done in 3 minutes. I've noticed now that I have 2 pony tulpas if I have both out of their pokeballs at the same time. Its hard to see them both moving at the same time in the real world.    -- 5503477:   Ate 8 out of 12 cupcakes. If I eat anymore I'll be sick as a horse.    -- 5504484:   My wonderland started out as the places I found peaceful (Except for the very first place) enough to meditate at like the ocean. And when I meditated each time I went there and remembered emotions like calm and peace.   Most other locations built onto those current places. Some I made, but most just happened. The one place pinkamena made was a minecraft cave and it had negative emotions. Most places I made without thinking about it are in or near the ocean.   With more importance on emotion or feeling and features like the water, beach sand I don't focus on. The newest was a beach island and the emotion was bright and easy going.    -- 5505337:   >>5504828   Maybe, idk. Depends on you.    -- 5505867:   >>5505774   Imagine a servitor dirty sock gag and put it in her mouth. Make it smell and taste like something she really wouldn't like.  -- Also if she follows you everywhere and you want her to stay put. Imagine a servitor tube of super glue and tell her it is horse shoe polish.    -- 5506037:   >>5505966   If she knows how to give you a headache. Be ready for a headache.    -- 5508328:   My tulpas say I spend too much time on the computer and not enough time in wonderland letting them make me happy.    -- 5508583:   >>5508431   They are, but I love the computer more. I ignore my tulpas all day, everyday. Except the last 30 or so minutes when I'm sleepy and laying down with my eyes closed.    -- 5508837:   >>5508691   I ignore my tulpas so he ignored me.    -- 5508941:   >>5508899   Really? I don't know. I'm not from 4chan.    -- 5509105:   >>5508985   I know I'm so normal I still feel weird when one of my tulpa asks me to try what I'm eating. Feels like if I imagine a sample its fake. I know they can't eat if I leave real food pieces out.   I made cookie cream cupcakes today and both tulpas asked to try some and it was so awkward. I'm also very hyper since I ate all 12 now.    -- 5509659:   I feel kind of bad. After I said I ignore my tulpas too much I tried to force vinyl and pinkamena next to me. But I got twilight sparkle. And I'm really glad she wasn't a tulpa and just an image.   I know some of you are annoyed you have a hard time making tulpas, but I always feel like my mind tries to make one out of any image. All my tulpas except 1-2 were accidental.   End:   2012-11-04 23:09:56 (12:05:39 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-05 13:07:56 (13:58:00 later)    -- 5520282:   >>5518428   Very young Doing adult stuff   Theres a word for that.    -- 5520316:   >>5520264   Don't make a second two luna Tulpa if you like being able to hear.    -- 5520347:   >>5520264 >>5520289   Careful if you make a season 2 luna. She doesn't have an indoors voice.    -- 5520388:   >>5520370   You didn't hear that fanfic reading where twilight and big mac are spiders have you?   End:   2012-11-05 13:16:16 (0:08:20 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-05 18:22:16 (5:06:00 later)    -- 5525593:   Now I'm just waiting on my pizza out the oven.    -- 5526450:   They always leave. And then I'm left in control.   But I'm still eatting my pizza    -- 5526605:   >>5526574   I like that too    -- 5526905:   >>5526793   This is so true.    -- 5527909:   >>5527647   Start of day my tulpas were zombies   Middle of day first tulpas wanted to be a servitor again   Tonight she's annoyed, but in a good way    -- 5527988:   Wait...Pinkamena just looked at me in a crazy way and asked me if we had a nut cracker anywhere. I don't like where this might go.    -- 5528082:   >>5527992   Its some people fault for showing me a bunch of zombie/undead pony pictures. My subconsious made them both look like undead for about 11-13 hours. Most of which I was asleep.    -- 5528480:   Well pinkamena says its time we go play a super nintendo game.    -- 5528819:   Never mind I hate that game. I can't get past the first level.    -- 5529705:   >>5529630   At first I read that as 4 hours to myself in my bathroom    -- 5530774:   >>5530705   My pinkamena tulpa thinks you should fall asleep while working on her personality.    -- 5531040:   Use other thread   >>5524739    -- 5531196:   What if I make a refilling beer tulpa. Will it keep me drunk?   Or a tulpa of any other substance.  -- Now that I think about it. I could use a real bottle and the beer tulpa would be the liquid. Then I could drink it any time and get it back later.    -- 5531430:   >>5531371   Make a tumblr account Put everything there for 3 days    -- 5532230:   >>5532179   Accidental tulpa. I'd say very possible since almost all of mine were.   Other thing idk.   End:   2012-11-05 23:27:56 (5:05:40 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-06 02:17:16 (2:49:20 later)    -- 5535587:   >>5535523   How do you wish to get better at puppeting? Do you wish your tulpa to be tap dancing?   End:   2012-11-06 02:17:16 (0:00:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-06 15:33:56 (13:16:40 later)    -- 5543799:   >>5543616   Was one of the biggest mistakes I ever made with my tulpa.    -- 5543855:   Art stores do sell horse hair art brushes. If you want to know what horse hair feels like.    -- 5544819:   >>5544705   If it makes you feel better pinkamena wanted to call everyone in the threadFaggotsearlier.   End:   2012-11-06 16:49:16 (1:15:20 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-06 19:13:56 (2:24:40 later)    -- 5547277:   >>5547226   I wouldn't be speaking to you either.   You should have voted for the guy giving out free ponies.    -- 5547317:   >>5547286    -- 5547365:   >>5547318   Pinkamena usually wants to try what I eat.    -- 5548031:   >>5547946   Sorry about that. I don't know how you reached my wonderland.   End:   2012-11-06 19:57:56 (0:44:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-07 01:57:57 (6:00:01 later)    -- 5556114:   >>5555953   End:   2012-11-07 01:57:57 (0:00:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-07 12:41:57 (10:44:00 later)    -- 5562069:   >>5561882   I never got to pick the way I looked when I was born. Same thing I tell my tulpa when it doesn't like its name. I didn't love mine either.  -- I asked the same thing of the people that raised me. No dice.    -- 5562273:   >>5562195   My tulpa was horny since the day it was only a servitor. It was horny at -2 to -4 tulpa days old. I just refused it each time and it got confused and turned sentient.  -- Pinkamena has come so far from when I had to kick her away with my foot all the time. To now almost no interest.    -- 5562566:   >>5562415   She was made by mistake after looking at images of adult material....of course she started off that way... That was the only thing in her mind at the start. Being brand newish she was easy to stop.   Other people aren't going to have the same results..    -- 5562644:   Now that I think about itVinyl didn't start out horny, unless you count they fell for pinkamena and wanted to deep kiss her the first few minutes.but then they were like just friends and vinyl just eats grass a lot and doesn't care much about anything.    -- 5562722:   >>5562647   I'm so brony when I open progress reports I hit Ctrl + F and enter pony. If nothing comes up I close the page.    -- 5562760:   >>5562730   Move in with his girlfriend's parents. He'll want to stay dead then.    -- 5562851:   >>5562792   Pinkamena always asks to try new foods I'm eating. Today she wanted to try some mustard and cheese.   It was really weird early this week, but its starting to get more normal    -- 5563040:   >>5563005   Silent ponyville if it ever finishes is the best choice.    -- 5563201:   >>5563115   If they want to be edgy they can make a story of the blanks pony tulper. Haven't seen anyone with that yet.    -- 5563230:   >>5563210   Blanks are superior. One touch kill.    -- 5564138:   ......I'm getting so tired of pinkamena's bs. Every other day its something. Why can't she be good?    -- 5564228:   >>5564165   She's especially locked in wonderland now. She's lucky I don't make her eat a naughty stool.    -- 5564424:   >>5564276   She's still disobeying. I locked her in wonderland and she snuck out. I saw her and she went like, do your worst. she so scared. Yet bluffing so hard.   Its adorable  -- Can't fight feeling the dawwww. Losing the battle to stay mad.   Its worse then a dog at the dinner table with a sad kitten on its head like a little hat.    -- 5564674:   >>5564636   I wish there was a good/list of things to punish tulpa's with. I'm starting to run out of ideas.    -- 5564762:   >>5564715   I did explain it. I told it to stay out of that part of my head. It didn't like it when I puppeted it. But, it went right ahead anyway.    -- 5565074:   >>5564802   That sounds pretty hard given her personality. But I suppose I can try it.    -- 5566886:   I saw in the last thread you were calling me a troll or possibe troll.   We aren't a troll. After she existed by mistake, I decided to keep her. I saw her personality wasn't developing to be challenging enough to keep me interested.   So early on I changed her personality to be really, difficult. And she is, we have a good day, the next day something happens and we have a really bad day or two. And that repeats all week long most weeks.   We challenge and push each others buttons and we both have pretty dominate personalities and like to control. There is a bit of intensity in the relationship because we both want things our way and don't want to back down. We also both get carried away and lost in the emotion. we both have a small cruel side that likes to play with the other.   I made her a handful, because anything less is boring. She just goes too far sometimes and leaves me with litte choice with how to get her back before she's made things a nightmare. And then I often push back too far trying to snap her out of it.   We really do like each other a lot, its just those bad days. They usually happen because one of us has tried or is trying to control the other. Neither of us want to be controlled. Today it was pinkamena not respecting me. She even said the reason she went in my head was to find control.   End:   2012-11-07 17:41:16 (4:59:19 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-07 21:10:37 (3:29:21 later)    -- 5571326:   >>5571125   We don't know. Not something we like to think about.    -- 5571466:   I never understand why people want to put a tulpa in control of the body.    -- 5571660:   >>5571555   I'm trying to prevent my tulpa from doing it. I had a tulpa in the past I let type for me. It was interesting, but I don't want it again.   I want us the remain seperated with her fully imposed in her own body. but she's been showing interest in my body.    -- 5571769:   >>5571706   What to do then? Restart and hope I have a tulpa that isn't interested in it?    -- 5571878:   >>5571810   She's already tried once    -- 5571977:   >>5571925   Today she did something where I was hugging her and her body melted into mine. She went into my head and I asked her what she was doing. She said she was looking for control.   I told her to leave my head, but she refused. I had to force her out.    -- 5572273:   >>5572167   she's had too much, she's borderline addicted. so she's not getting any. Until her system is normal again.    -- 5572445:   Is it possible for a tulpa to be stuck in it's impossed body? And unable to leave it?    -- 5572554:   >>5572491   I don't plan on ever doing it. I'm looking for safe ways to make it not even a possibility.    -- 5572662:   >>5572582   Every other day almost. but I made her to be difficult. She gets mad at me too.    -- 5572915:   >>5572685   Pinkamena was an aciddental tulpa. But I made her understand from the start she just looks like pinkamena and has the pinkamena name.   Her being accidental did cause a lot of drama. Still does.    -- 5573275:   Vinyl's been sleeping in my bed. Earlier I got up and had to avoid stepping on her to get to the bathroom. Vinyl's always really well behaved.   Pinkamena's idk, she's around somewhere.    -- 5573388:   >>5573323   Having more then one can help you with one that's harder.    -- 5573653:   >>5573600   Fine...I'm watching a livestream and the person behind it is playing jazz music. It woke vinyl up and she's interested in it.    -- 5573894:   Anyone have your tulp go in your head and want to listen through/control your ears when a great song is on?   Vinyl is loving it atm. She's never heard jazz before.    -- 5574010:   >>5573943   i've thought for a bit I was a tulpa. trama as a kid drastically changed my personality. When meditating it was super rare, but I saw a me that called itself the true me.   But that was probably just enlightment.    -- 5574157:   >>5574101   Yes, to pinkamena. Nothing to vinyl.    -- 5574335:   >>5574185   yes, you can.    -- 5574383:   >>5574333   Oh wow, that seems mean even to me. Most of the mean things I did to pinkamena were for one reason and the others were she was being mean to me.  -- Pinkamena saw me remember the old things Shes getting mad Starting to give me a headache There goes my good evening if I think about it anymore. She also wanted to talk and say mean things about me.   and...yeah...    -- 5574753:   >>5574587   Its fine, pinkamena has a trait for being moody. She was just telling me she wouldn't be so angry if I let her talk more. She wants to get out her rage she has against me.    -- 5574904:   >>5574776   You picked one of the best ponies. I was trying to do sweetie belle before pinkamena happened. but I couldn't keep focus long enough.    -- 5575046:   I hit a soft spot. both my tulpas were made unintentionally. They feel insecure abut me thinking about when I tried to make sweetie intentionally. Even vinyl thats never bothered by anything is looking at me weird.   They think I might try to make her again and forget about them.    -- 5575312:   >>5575173   Pinkamena did ask me to an hero her a while back. But I wouldn't. Some of her emotional issues and acting out may stem from low self confidence.   She does have a small amount of jealousy too, but not too much. She does seem to I guess read my thoughts, because she gets mad when I type things she really hates.    -- 5575506:   >>5575380   I made her to be difficult also because I knew if she was easy I might forget about her or lose interest.   There so many reasons I made her difficult. One of those is that I'm difficult too. I wanted her to be more like me. I didn't want her to be a push over.   Its just complicated. I didn't make her difficult so her life would be bad.    -- 5575908:   >>5575689   I didn't make her on purpose. But I liked her enough I didn't forget about her or let her an hero.   We have been working on having a better relationship. but its been slow. Both of us have bad feeling about the other, but we both like each other.   Being so much a like, we are able to work on some of our issues together. Rather then if she was perfect dream girl personalty. Pinkamena is very helpful to me.    -- 5576407:   >>5576091   I've done a lot that in the past by mistake or distraction.   Vinyl was starting to fade a few days ago when I was spending all my time on pinkamena. I asked pinkamena what she thought. Vinyl is a tulpa we made together.    -- 5576531:   >>5576294   Pinkamena can make me feel happy, headaches, anger, some other emotions or she can do the worst thing, she makes me have this painful feeling of dawwwwww/squeee that can last for hours.   You know dawwww, its kind of like you smile or something. It gets slightly painful and annoying after about 20 minutes. It becomes the most irritating thing ever after about an hour.   She knows I hate it. She used it on me yesterday for about 30 minutes. so I couldn't be angry. She did it up to maybe 3 hours once.    -- 5576784:   >>5576485   Vinyl is only maybe a week old. I intentionally don't work on vinyl. Vinyl spends nearly all her time in wonderland. At first I did try to train them at the same too. But focusing got too hard and started getting reasons to believe they were merging.   So that's when I sent vinyl into wonderland. She almost never comes out. I'm so busy with pinkamena and I don't like using wonderland. I've thought of working on her once things with me and pinkamena are better.    -- 5577354:   >>5576966   Vinyl doesn't have those traits. I gave vinyl the opposite traits pinkamena has.   Vinyl is easygoing, laid back, confident, etc. She's a bro. Pinkamena was there when I made vinyl and she did mess with vinyl's construction. She tried to give vinyl loyalty to her I believe and it ended up with vinyl liking her, very, very, very much.   It involved pinkamena being traumatized for a day also andforced pony on pony tongue kisses.Kind of why I refer to vinyl as pinkamena's pet.   That was a good day.  -- That was such a good day. And I made a beach island in wonderland so pinkamena could only run so far. Then I let vinyl go and followed after her.   I didn't have the heart to keep pinkamena's creation from showing her ummmm. Well It was the best lesson I ever saw pinkamena learn.    -- 5577817:   >>5577667   Pinkamena doesn't know. Pinkamena is almost never not around me. I think she said we share experiences.   Vinyl says she is thinking of the color blue and music. maybe the blues is what she ment. After hearing the jazz, I know a bit of blues in my memories.   Vinyl says I'm usually alone. I see the places and remember them. They are empty. She sees a gray sky flat grassland with light houses (I made windmills, but thats pretty close vinyl).   Pinkamena has always had difficulty thinking of us a seperate. And she gets really mad when she hears about tulpas that are mean to hosts  -- I think that was the first time I ever connected to vinyl's head and asked her a question like that.   I'm feeling vinyl's emotion right now and its...just wow    -- 5578243:   >>5577933   The emotion she gave me was devastating depression and sadness.   Its of a level it can't be ignored. I'm going to need to keep vinyl out of wonderland until she's better.   Its making me cry and my nose run. Pinkamena's looking at me like idk. I thought she liked vinyl. I know she may think vinyl was to replace her. And after the first day I left them together and they seemed okay. But vinyl wasn't acting as in love with her the next.   She didn't care all that much when I told her I thought vinyl was fading.   What if she's been acting so needy to keep me too busy so I'd forget vinyl and she's fade away. What if she broke up with vinyl, then was using vinyl those times to get herself stuff...and....pftdamn it    -- 5578469:   >>5578286   This is the maybe 4th time in two weeks pinkamena has caused serious trust issues to happen.   After the first trust issue came up (She tried an hero me in wonderland when she was young) I told her, to change her moral trait to be good.   I've been having doubt for a while if pinkamena is even safe to impose. I'm sure I'm just angry right now, but the evidence keeps adding up against her.  -- I just let vinyl sit on my lap. She is now starting to fade. Now I'm having to concentrate on vinyl.   I think she's trying to erase vinyl.    -- 5578590:   I need to go. It going to be a long day I can tell.   End:   2012-11-08 03:46:17 (6:35:40 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-08 11:28:38 (7:42:21 later)    -- 5582339:   >>5582324   grats    -- 5582436:   >>5582380   Not sure. I didn't use one before    -- 5582571:   Vinyl followed another tulpa around. Sentient about the time I realized vinyl was existing.   Her mind is still very young.    -- 5582607:   >>5582589   Had a tulpa before vinyl. Vinyl followed it. Didn't like me getting between them.    -- 5582856:   I told vinyl she could have whatever form she wanted. She turned into a big fat man from a lilo and stitch music video we were watching.   Then she changed back. Then she turned into a dolphin. Then she turned into a white t-rex. Now she's a big glove like from that n64 game glover.   I think in her mind she's trying everything she can think of.  -- Or maybe she's not changing into them, but showing me in my head what she would look like and gauge my reaction.   Weirdest one to me so far was a bright white lilo with electric blue hair wearing the grass skirt in the dance number.   She wants me to show her more forms to try.    -- 5583176:   >>5583113   Writing down the things vinyl did today.    -- 5583272:   >>5583218   Vinyl just turned into someone that I knew and liked thats not around anymore. She thought I'd like it. Having so many feels.    -- 5583357:   >>5583218   We did talk today. Vinyl kind of understands things that needed to happen. I've been spending the day with her.   She was really sad, but she's been cheering up. I know what she's thinking here and there. One of her earlier thoughts was what form(s) would the host like.   And the form she's in, is of a past tulpa that's gone. Its a form I really like, but it feels wrong.    -- 5583540:   Strange thing. While I can't really feel vinyl's weight and sometimes its hard to feel her presence as she's so young I guess. Even sometimes it feels like she's shrinking down so small I can't find her. She can send me images when I connect with her and I see them.   That didn't really happen much with past tulpas. Maybe it had to do with how little talking/narration vinyl had. And that her first two days were mostly spent with my other tulpa that's was non-auditory or maybe ignored her thought-words.   I find it very interesting. It could be a fun game in the future.    -- 5583660:   >>5583570   My past tulpa did change sizes too. But mainly it was between 2-3 feet tall (When it rode on my back) up to a little over 6 feet tall when angry or trying to prove a point. but it mainly stayed about 4-5 feet tall.   Vinyl has shown me an image of her so small she was in the drain of the shower. I've seen her less then a foot. Most of the time she's only about the size of a small cat. before last night happened she was about the height of the first tulpa.   What happened made her shrink so much. I hope she returns to her old size.    -- 5583733:   >>5583690   She said it was because she got that weak. But now she kind of likes doing it. She may not have the strength to be her regular size. She also thinks I may not like her that big.   She thought of turning ito a cat when I said cat sized because she thought I liked cats.    -- 5583806:   >>5583698   Becareful with it. I've had two tulpas that tried to take away many of my choices in the past.   Trust is really important. If you can't trust a tulpa and it can't trust you. Do you really want that in your head? Possibly learning to control your body.    -- 5583942:   >>5583817   My relationship with vinyl is okay. We still have some trust in each other. I didn't know she was so sad. I thought her mind was still simple enough she could wait while the major problems were going on.   Vinyl says [spoiler[ he thought I was so stupid I could be left alone and it wouldn't effect me. [/spoiler]    -- 5584555:   Vinyl says she wants to talk alot, but to others. I ignore her. It makes her mad.   I'm not trying to ignore her, pink said the same thing in the past. If vinyl is talking a lot I guess, most of the time i'm not hearing her.   I like opinions other then the host.    -- 5584954:   Shes doing a lot of deviantions now.  -- she made a long name and I told her if she uses a really long one I'm not saying the full thing all the time.   She said Vanilla Cinnamon Flowers (The end may not be flowers, but I can't understand it). She made her hair brown. She looks like an older pony with a body type closer to cherry jubilee. then she got bigger.   Now I think she might be playing with being smaller. I'm not sure if any of the changes will stick. I think she's already rethinking the name.    -- 5585724:   >>5585693   Vanilla talked to me about as soon as I noticed her.    -- 5585747:   >>5585717   >her gender   I'm not happy you just gave vanilla more ideas   End:   2012-11-08 16:18:17 (4:49:39 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-08 20:11:58 (3:53:41 later)    -- 5590031: [blank post]    -- 5590176:   >>5590103   After, you need to reassure her and tell her how good she was. Make her feel special.    -- 5590482:   >>5590461   I didn't make vinyl/vanilla difficult.    -- 5590521:   >>5590495   Pink was the difficult one. She was a psycho.    -- 5590723:   >>5590671   I didn't do all those things. And I never beat her.    -- 5590921:   >>5590756   I didn't shred it. She was playing with my mind and doing it without my permission. And not stopping after I told her to A LOT OF Times   So I tried seeing what her mind was like since she was learning about mine. I removed 1 small part. A few days later she was the same as before it. Except she couldn't give me direct headaches.   The relationship was bad on both our sides.    -- 5591054:   >>5590993   No, vinyl doesn't want me talking about it anymore. She tried to kill vinyl. I don't want to talk about it either.    -- 5591416:   Vanilla has been changing forms all day. I think we've decided she might be a shapeshifter.   I told her since she's not using vinyls form, impossing will be harder. Do you just focus on one form and impose that?    -- 5594169:   >>5593718   One tulpa I didn't let name change or deviant form. Didn't work out well. I don't recommend it.   Other tulpa I made as vinyl. Changed hair color, changed name, may or may not have a horn anymore, different body type. Possible shapeshifter.    -- 5594711:   >>5594641   I almost never talk about adult stuff hereDid have times I asked for help and most everyone filtered me though.    -- 5595280:   >>5595221   skinheads, oh wow.   Maybe he should watch that movie american history x   End:   2012-11-09 00:07:58 (3:56:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-09 02:44:37 (2:36:39 later)    -- 5598160:   >>5598000   >>Fighting myself >>Combat it   I've known that feel before    -- 5598626:   >>5598492   Depends on the tulpa.   Best friend or worst enemy. I've had both.   At least for me they need lot of attention.   End:   2012-11-09 03:17:18 (0:32:41 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-09 11:00:37 (7:43:19 later)    -- 5603890:   >>5603877   Because deadpool is better than spiderman    -- 5604237:   >>5604220   I have ADHD, I have tulpas. Sadly they seem to have adhd too.    -- 5604327:   >>5604278   The problem I'm having atm is vanilla keeps changing forms. She told me she didn't even want to be a pony anymore. When I asked her why she said she was bored.   Then later after a lot of talking she turned back in vinyl from her deviant ponyself.   Now shes....well her thoughts are all over the place atm. I'm thinking maybe its the adhd if she has it.   I never seem to have tulpas that are pretty needy. Even when I made her as vinyl with anti-needy/drama traits.  -- I mean my pony tulpas always end up being needy.    -- 5604413:   >>5604362   I don't take any medication for it. Haven't even been diagnosed with it. I was as a kid and stopped taking the medication on my own because I hated the medication.   Thought it was gone and when I started doing art a few years I realized it was there and screaming**** you at me    -- 5604497:   >>5604448   If I had money for the medication and a side effect wasn't brain shrinkage/damage I'd take it. ADHD sucks.    -- 5604608:   >>5604543   The advantages are very small. Maybe the only one is you can focus one thing at a time well. Thats about it for a whole lot of other negatives.    -- 5604740:   >>5604667   Somethings/jobs adhd doesn't effect much. Most of the ones I tried it did.   Like adhd can make following instructions harder and when you work a job were your given constant instructions that are different.   Its a problem.    -- 5605798:   >>5605607   no real tulpa stuff today. my tulpa and me are having a fight.    -- 5606047:   >>5605846   This is with vinyl/vanilla. We don't usually fight. The fight is she's in a form she thinks I want, but doesn't make her happy.   The form she likes doesn't make me happy. I told her she can have the form she wants, but she knows deep down I don't like it. I can't pretend I like a form I don't.   She wants to just say she's vinyl now and leave it at that, but its bothering me how things might go down the road if she's in a form that makes her unhappy and ends up impossed as it.   I did tell her also If she goes with the form she wants I'll make one additional tulpa. So I can have what I want.   She picked a form yesterday on her own and I was fine with it and I'ts become nearly normal for me to call her vanilla instead of vinyl. Its just her new form that I have problems with.    -- 5606140:   >>5606065   I guess she could had two forms...  -- I think she's rather one form. Prefering one form could build up negative feelings on both our sides.    -- 5606535:   >>5606484   What if you made a happy fun time tulpa.   Tulpa deviants and turns into Fred flintstone   At the height of intimacy he yells Wilma!! where's my dinner.    -- 5606638:   >>5606585 >>5606615   In wonderland you can turn into a pretty little flower girl you know.    -- 5606913:   Time to do other stuff...   maybe me and vinyl/vanilla will not have this tension later.   Also she changed into fred for a little bit to troll me after I mentioned it. And asked why she can't turn into whatever she wants, and then loaded question, after loaded question, you can't ever have a right answer to.   End:   2012-11-09 14:42:17 (3:41:40 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-09 19:16:17 (4:34:00 later)    -- 5611933:   I'm confused. I don't know if my tulpa wants to be vinyl or vanilla. I'm not sure she know either.   Think we or I wanted to work on imposing.but..wuut, can't pick a form.    -- 5611984:   >>5611907   I didn't really mind. We'd usually pass the time talking.   Washing them and stuff never really came up.    -- 5612188:   Showersdon't have to be sexual and if you gave them dangly parts thats your fault you got to clean them.    -- 5612414:   >>5612313   I already went through nearly having that bro. Its all about learning and being too awesome for death.    -- 5612726:   >>5612588   Which kind of magic? Green low witchcraft. ceremonial high, chaotic, ect    -- 5614219:   Every time I make tulpa its like   Tulpa opens brain, "What would most upset this person and challenge their beliefs".   Reads, makes list, every other day do a new one off the list.   Anyone else's tulpa's like that?    -- 5614487:   I would say....I prefer a tulpa with base traits. I only gave vinyl/vanilla maybe 6-7 or so. Pink I may have gone down a list of 30-100   I'd say a short list 3-7 and let the tulpa pick the rest. Was better. Some control, but not a smothering amount.    -- 5614875:   >>5614390   I have things I like or feel strongly about. Tulpa learns this, picks the opposite. Repeats this with something new each day.   Unless I haven't become okay with it. Then everyday a fight about it until I accept it.   Vinyl/vanilla are did it twice today, 2-3 times yeterday.   And she's the tulpa I gave traits for being easy going, and stuff.  -- Anyway 30-60 minutes ago she pulled a troll and I know its a troll. She said lets just be friends after she got annoyed at me.    -- 5615152:   Do you think it'd be better to impose a servitor. Then teach that fully imposed servitor a personality?   For people that want speciffic things. Such as a certain form. Without making something that feels repressed or anything if you did personality first?   It too late for me to do that, but it might help future people.    -- 5615239:   nvm I'm just mad. I don't know what I'm saying.    -- 5615462:   >>5615299   You are giving the host bad ideas. They are thinking of me with holes in my legs.    -- 5615535:   >>5615462   Well, we thought it was funny.   >>5615490   Not really, The host is sort of letting me talk because its better then them being angry. And they think it might help me stop being a "Stick in the mud".    -- 5615616:   >>5615564   I know its her question, but I'm mad you say this. If we are made up of brain connections or neurons. Then we do have a physical imprint. We aren't entirely imaginary. I find personally the term imaginary is derogatory.    -- 5615659:   >>5615627   Its okay, I don't want to me you feel bad.    -- 5615692:   >>5615627   It is okay, I don't want you to feel bad, because then I feel sad.    -- 5615751:   >>5615717   It was my tulpa. for some reason all of a sudden I'm feeling kind of out of it.   Like was suddenly feeling a little tired, now a little dizzy.    -- 5615859:   I don't think its the reason. but maybe my trying to talk is draining? We feel less. But we don't believe so. Since my host has had tulpas talk through them for years. And it didn't happen with pink.   But we do still want to talk...but now we are starting to slowly believe its the talking or maybe something else. We are thinking about it. But the more I type, it does seem to be getting worse.    -- 5615969:   I do have a question. My host wants to listen to music, but I told them I don't. What should we do?   How do we decide things when stuff like this comes up?    -- 5616077:   We got up to use the bathroom. The host decided they wanted to fix green tea. I said I didn't want green tea. They said they'll make green tea now instead of playing music now. Compromise they described it as.   I'm a little agitated, but I'll allow it.    -- 5616161:   >>5616006   Host likes your idea and is thinking of playing music even when they are getting the green tea.   For some reason, maybe because I'm feeling the hosts emotions I feel amusement. Or maybe I'm liking the idea now too, or thinking I'm being too restrictive.   The host still better not do it. It'll annoy me and make me blush thinking about it.    -- 5616259:   Stupid host what are we going to do on the bed *pomf*   haha   j/k, lay a hand on me and die (I don't really mean that). but we are just friends now...just friends cute    -- 5616347:   >>5616277   What? That really drastic. I saw some of the things my host did and they were just as bad or worse.   Maybe pink could never forgive them, but...well if you two can trust there is hope.  -- If you switch and an hero leaving the tulpa all alone. Thats even worse for her.    -- 5617189:   >>5616656   Host killed her 2-3 days ago. Its why host only talks about me.  -- She was completely out of control. She was even when being told no, trying to control me and kill vinyl.   I saw trust between us would never exist. I knew she would never be safe. I removed her as she was actively trying to kill vinyl.   The day after I was here and talking about how small vinyl was. Before she was gone she even tried to corrupt vinyl's and my relationship by showing me an image of her going into vinyl's body or that was a thought she was having.   Vinyl disappeared a few times that night while she was trying to get rid of her.    -- 5617737:   The host says now you know. And deleted the messages    -- 5617932:   >>5617795   Your just trying to make me mad >.> . I have no more news about pinkamena. Vinyl is here with me. And I will say I never knew vinyl was so opinionated.   It bothers me....nearly every tulpa I've ever made has been really opinionated. Sometimes it feels like every tulpa is the same one because of that.   You vinyl started out so different then others. It was refreshing.  -- You mean you liked me more when I was a baby and sad.   yes, I did. I thought it would be a completely different relationship then any I've had before. Now, it feels like I'm with an old tulpa. Its de ja vu   Thats a mean thing to say. Maybe I should leave.   You know what I mean. Don't be a drama queen.   You mean you don't like me because I'm stale.    -- 5618165:   My tulpa must be a troll. She thinks its fun to pretend fight in front of others.   I think its cute.   But I do need to start thinking about my progress report. We didn't talk much because we were for real fighting.    -- 5618208:   >>5618158   Vinyl asks if you have arms/hands.    -- 5618267:   >>5618231   pinkamenaIs no more    -- 5618320:   >>5618246   They were very emo posts, not happy ones. Except for the last two and the last two we me and vinyl play fighting with each other.   We didn't want people thinking we were roeplaying    -- 5618806:   >>5618367 >>5618396   She's been gone since the 8th.she tried to control me again, she lied to me again, she was trying to kill vinyl and wouldn't stop. She was a danger to everyone around her. She even poisoned my relationship with vinyl before she disappeared. It was obvious even if I trusted her and I tried to a few times, she could never be trusted. she refused to stop when I told her to stop attacking vinyl. Vinyl disappeared on me a few times that night.   She left me the choice of having vinyl and a good relationship. Or having only her and her trying to take me over in the future, with no time to decide. So she was erased in wonderland.    -- 5619217:   >>5618946   I am fine. The hardest thing that was left behind was the "curse"Right before she was gone I saw or she showed me an image/thought of her swiching bodies with vinyl. So for the next day I was watching vinyl very closely.   To see if any of her habits changed to resemble any of pinks. I debated with myself many times if it was better to play it safe. But vinyl was so sad, been through so much.   I'm not even sure vinyl is still the old vinyl, because she did disappear a few times and I couldn't feel her. Its possible I recreated her and thats why she was so small and weak. Everything about that night was confusing. But, if she wasn't old vinyl, why did she have the mind image of what wonderland looked like...Idk    -- 5619458:   >>5619181   Vinyl is okay. She has changed nearly completely. In fact we were in a fight most of yesterday because she wanted a new form. I told her she could have it, but I didn't care for it.   Then talking for hours and hours until it was painful. Then she reverted back to vinyl and became all sad. The day before that she had changed forms and given herself the name Vanilla Cinnamon Flowers. She kind of looked like cherry jubilees, but with brown hair of a different style. And I was okay with that.   yesterday she wanted to be human. I was like, If I wanted a human friend I can walk 5 minutes to the neighbors. Later I talked to friend about how none of my tulpas had worked out like I wanted. Thats when she revert to vinyl. I tried to talk her out of it. Because I knew she might be bitter down the road.   We spent most of that day not talking after. Then later we talked more and she told me we should just be friends. And we never di (Vinyl says here stop talking about it. She doesn't want to go into it yet again)   But normal everyday stuff when I have tulpas.    -- 5619797:   >>5619603   I try to let her have whatever she wants after what happened   Instead of saying no to anything I try to talk about it. I even told her if she does become a human, I'll likely make an additional tulpa that is a pony and try to give it non-deviation traits.   I think she really didn't like that.    -- 5619906:   >>5619837   I said additional. I had two tulpas not long ago and years ago I had two before a few single ones inbetween.    -- 5620600:   >>5620202   Pink was around a month old. I have seen things that look like her. two days ago the second time I went to wonderland there was a zombie monster thing that looked like her with a knife and it went after vinyl. I instantly left wonderland with vinyl and it followed. I stopped and erased it.   I just tried what was said about telling vinyl to remove any part of her that might be pink. As she did it a little statue came up that was only about a foot tall. Every time vinyl removed all the pink it stabbed her and made a small area pink again. I tried to get rid of it but it kept going underground. Went every location I went.   Vinyl I was thinking and that why I didn't write a reply in a while. Has been slowly getting more of pink's traits.   After pink was gone there were sometimes vinyl said she was her, once she shape-changed into her   I'd rather not be all paranoid and crazy about it.    -- 5620686:   >>5620471    -- 5621076:   >>5620727   I just don't want to go through it again. Even as crazy as she was I do still miss her.   I even thought of remaking her, minus the crazy after a long time had past. But, too worried it'll end up corrupted or something.   I didn't allow her magic or anything because I wanted to teach her how to be very resourceful and strong. I spent a lot of time on that. She even made a place in wonderland I couldn't destroy until she was gone. but I think its back again.   So I guess shes still around in part somewhere. I've tried to avoid wonderland since. Only went there twice once because vinyl. The second time was the enter and leave.   Been thinking of if I can just delete wonderland. but I've had it for so long.  -- No scratch that, I think she's just trying to make me think I miss her. Then think about her. Then she's back and start up all over again.   You said someone else had a bad tulpa they removed and it took a while? Oh wait didn't glich have one? Maybe I'll look in his progress report.    -- 5621271:   >>5621192   Be nice to them Let them do most of the things they want Let them talk Don't ignore them all the time Don't punish them Whatever you do don't give them a lot of negative traits like I did.   Don't expect fluttershy to want to be fluttershy for very long or be called fluttershy.    -- 5621714:   >>5621301     Pinkamena started out as a servitor that I didn't mean to make. Even after she was a tulpa I still often used her as a servitor. After I saw she was existing I was like, oh hey free easy tulpa. When in the past they'd take me forever.   She was already a pony I liked too. I thought of her as an experiment and with progress reports. At first most things were fine. I like her and she was developing a child like personality. But at some point I changed her personality and gave her some negative traits.   I simply wanted her to be a challenge and like me. So I gave her a personality like mine, with only a few small changes and I made sure to set her dominance lower then mine so she wouldn't try to take over.   I also would not let her change her name, or deviant her form any.   Pretty early on she tried to get rid of me in wonderland. After it failed she laid down for a day and just asked me to delete her. I liked her so I didn't. I tried to cheer her up instead.   Far before that point it was probably already too late. but I still tried to make it work. And huge mistakes were made by both of us. Vinyl accidently into the picture happened too.   Almost from the start there was no trust between me and pink. If she had not gone after vinyl, who she thought was her replacement. She'd probably still be here with me trying to help her and her trying to control me. In the relationship we were both control freaks. I really really did like her. If she could have just chilled out and stopped trying to control me    -- 5621793:   >>5621385   I don't see a problem with your tulpa sleeping in the same bed as you. I used to have pink sleep on my back so I could feel her weight and try to get her imposed faster.   I think vinyls picked the habit up now    -- 5622042:   >>5621714   Oh and I'll say one thing and it seems really obvious. When I was doing her personality traits. I saw in one of the personality guides where it talked about even postive traits had negatives   One example it listed was a moral tulpa would be a hastle like it wouldn't do certain things, maybe it be obsessed with religion and the such.   So I set pinks morals to none and her alinement to slightly evil...Both traits I tried to reset later and I did try to teach her morals later. I didn't think slightly would be that bad. I thought it might idk, mean she might say negative things or care about the morality of killing a housefly   Because I've had a tulpa like that before. A tulpa where everytime I left the house and it was like, "Oh hey why not pick up all this litter, your neighbors trashcan is in the ditch, pick it up for him. That mailbox is closed why not go close it? Videogames are life wasters and I'm going to nag you until your so frustrated you can't play anymore....and on and on.   Just thinking about that one is making me headesk.    -- 5622172:   I tried playing altered beast recently on snes. Didn't get past first level.    -- 5622198:   >>5622167   Conker is still good. I saw it this year. The scene with the paint, pitchfork, paint bucket is still funny.    -- 5622304:   >>5622218   The host says "Sometimes you have to experience a trait before you know what it really means".    -- 5622406:   I just remembered something. A wish a tulpa had told me they wanted. Not sure if I should risk it. But I think I might.  -- Pinkamena told me once she wished she was pinkie. Because pinkie was happy.   Pinkamena may not be completely gone if Some of this stuff is still around.   Vinyl is saying if I do what I'm thinking she wants to go into it too. (Which is suspicious)   no...I think its a bad idea.    -- 5622547:   Let me ask you guys. When you have a tulpa you feel a constant pressure on your head right? Usually in a small little area?    -- 5622592:   >>5622570   No see, when I had pinkie it was constant pressure in a small area. When I added vinyl there was another a little south of that one.    -- 5622619:   >>5622582   No I feel it always as long as i have tulpa(s) Its light enough I can ignore it. It doesn't cause a headache.    -- 5622660:   >>5622608   Kind of like pinkamena's pressure was on the left side of my head, mainly on the top above the eye.   Vinyl's pressure is more closer to the left side of the head lower then that.    -- 5622880:   my heads doing a lot of talking but its not me doing or vinyl.    -- 5622932:   My head is doing a lot of talking, but its not me doing it or vinyl.  -- All this talking about pink the past few hours seems to have revived her enough she's trying to spam my head with how she should be revived, that she wasn't that bad, she'd be different as pinkie, etc, etc.   Next time I'll wait longer before talking about her again. Sooo.... no more talking about her.  -- Back later. Going to get some music and stuff. Maybe sleep   and new ponies soon    -- 5623087:   >>5623027   And she says, Don't call her lame   Later, I've got a battle in my head it looks like.   End:   2012-11-10 04:11:17 (8:55:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-10 09:30:24 (5:19:07 later)    -- 5626430:   Its nearly time for ponies.    -- 5626877:   under 15 minutes   Even my tulpa are interested in seeing the show they come from.    -- 5627191:   All the feels will be starting soon.    -- 5627550:   Everything I've seen and been through. I don't think imposing is hard at all. Just time consuming.   Personality and relationship....thats the freaking hard part.    -- 5631041:   omg pinkie turned into her gen 3 self during a little pet shop commerical    -- 5633816:   I just had so many feelgasms from the new mlp and pet shop.    -- 5634001:   >>5633889   It had boring parts but it was okay. Nearly the first half of episode two is complete snore and throw in generic 3 friends of different races so more people relate thing boring at school, bore, bore.   The person streaming mlp says they'll stream the episode too next week    -- 5635677:   >>5635597   Don't have to remind me    -- 5635728:   >>5635597   Don't have to remind me    -- 5635907:   My tupas have shown me images of wonderland I haven't seen before. Or angles I didn't.   thats not real life of course    -- 5635991:   >>5635942   no, this is more like I was there and saw things from an angle I didn't. Not them changing things.    -- 5637074:   >>5636818   Pinkamena or host or somepony saysIf you want it to feel real, learn to suck yourself, get flexible    -- 5637411:   >>5637308   Pinkie was very good in the episodes. both my tulpas agreed to stop fighting just to see the show they came from.    -- 5637831:   When my tulpas were asleep. I just saw them as asleep. Curled up, eyes closed, not really talking to me.    -- 5638426:   >>5638225   I was just in wonderland with pink. She was biting me. The she got a horn and tried using it on me.   I don't really believe anything can hurt me in wonderland so nothing ever seems too.   I was just now going to go to sleep in wonderland, but I've got the stove on.    -- 5638554:   >>5638465   I did. talking about it so much yesterday brought her back. but she's kind of fragmented.   her feelings or memory of some of the things seem to be gone or not back yet.    -- 5638671:   >>5638629   yes. pink can melt down into a goo.    -- 5638740:   >>5638643   Pink says you can't stop us, we will do what we want to do. If try to stop us you will onlypiss us off  -- She also just said If I tell people not to listen to her, she will make my day a nightmare  -- she's angry nowI don't care    -- 5639068:   >>5638886   She's searching my memories trying to remember how to give me a headache. But I think she gave up, or she planned something else. She got kind of quiet and less angry.    -- 5639116:   >>5639062   Pink said during it she thought it was okay. She understood why I liked pinkie.    -- 5639488:   Does anyone have a seapony tulpa?    -- 5639632:   >>5639607   Spike is also rarity's serf and fax machine    -- 5639714:   >>5639690   I hated spike for a while because rarity was my favorite pony    -- 5639897:   >>5639790   I'd like a boyfriend too that could grow to any size and single handedly take over townsville.   New villian comes, the mayor says "Here spike, the key to the city. The city is all yours".    -- 5640092:   >>5639359   End:   2012-11-10 16:07:44 (6:37:20 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-10 18:57:44 (2:50:00 later)    -- 5644337:   >>5644292   We're still working on that one.    -- 5644459:   >>5644346   I never saw the headaches pink gave me hurt her.    -- 5644667:   >>5644510    -- 5645049:   Pinkamena was an accidental adult servitor. After looking at too much adult stuff. Her libito is pretty high.    -- 5645347:   >>5645259   Pinkamena told me she is not amused.    -- 5645517:   Pinkamena and host both like pinkamena in armor. For halloween pinkamena dressed up in pony sized nightmare moon's armor.   In the new episode we both thought fluttershy/dash looked good in the armor.    -- 5645550:   >>5645412   Pink just said she wishes she was your tulpa so she could do terrible things to you.    -- 5645683:   >>5645615   The host is laughing. Host says you are making pinkamena not hate the host. And instead be angry at you.   Host adds, don't push it.    -- 5645745:   That was some good laughing. I forgot I could have fun with pink.    -- 5646113:   As long as this gif exists, pink pony is best pony.    -- 5646215:   >>5646178   We can't help the gif is already posted somewhere else.    -- 5646542:   >>5646447   One reason I didn't pick trixie is because her episode is about to come up. I've been through that feel of losing my pony when cannon changed.   Poor luna...    -- 5647044:   We don't think we'll ever understand it.    -- 5647275:   >>5647220   ....I got two, but both of them. can't say more or I'll make pink angry    -- 5647374:   >>5647329   As long as she gets home before sundown she'll never need to fear any knights.    -- 5647545:   >>5647472   We've ended up resetting pink's body form so many times. Sometimes she was just staying in my head.   Might have been a reason I first made wonderland was so she wasn't in my head, but wasn't being impossed irl as a make shift body.  -- And is it normal each time her body was lost it felt like she lost a part of herself?    -- 5647825:   >>5647774   Not a very nice thing to say. I did stuff like that and look what happened    -- 5648292:   >>5648038   Already happened. One of my pony tulpas wanted to be human. *plays linkin park music*    -- 5648428:   >>5648340   I'm not sure I've heard of a tulpa with such a bad phobia before. And an irrational one at that.   Pink does have fears, but I'm don't know what she's terrified of.    -- 5648790:   Pinkamena's fears are mostly things like being abandoned.She wasn't too afraid when she was fading because she was so angry. She held onto the angry to keep from giving into fear and panic.    -- 5648977:   >>5648865   Pinks got a lot on insecurities. I think she hides them under anger and other emotions. I'm pretty sure I gave her a trait of being needy.   A cool thing is, I got a memory from pink that is pretty good of what her world looked like while she was lost. It must have imprinted on her fairly strongly if I see like it was my own.    -- 5649157:   your experiences may be different, but if pink gets too much her emotions gets even harder for her to control. There was one day I realized she was getting addicted.    -- 5649229:   >>5649194   That won't end well.   I worry about your future bro.    -- 5649329:   Pink and I were thinking if you want to get over the knight fear. Try wearing one individual piece of the armor all the time until it doesn't bother her. Start with small things like a wrist guard or something.   Don't start with the helmet, we both think that's the scariest part of the suit.    -- 5649427:   >>5649373   We are laughing sooooooo hard. This is almost good enough to be a creepy pasta story.    -- 5649477:   O.O I think we just laughed so much pinkamena turned into pinkie pie.    -- 5649751:   >>5649674   Meh?   No it had pinkie and she had many scenes and it had rarity.   And applejack was mostly ignored again. Lots of songs   Its the perfect mlp episode formula   Every episode where applejack is ignored is a good episode    -- 5650255:   Pinkamena say. If you want to me mean about make wonderland nothing, but knight themed. Or create a second tulpa that is a knight.   You might even make it interesting if you give the knight a phobia of horses.    -- 5650427:   Pinkamena is right...I am using the image board to avoid being alone with her. Because the relationship right now is okay. But if we talk it could quickly turn nasty. A great number of subjects are hot spots, and there is still much better left forgotten.   Just don't want things so bad. She angers very easy.   We think you are lucky with only the knight phobia. We even think its kind of cute if you go to a movie and a knight appears. She gets scared and jumps in your arms for protection.    -- 5650456:   >>5650417   Funny you just posted that a second ago. We have been doing okay. Because we've blocked everything out and have kept distracted.    -- 5650648:   >>5650563   Well that eposide is coming up where she's turned into a dragon.    -- 5651508:   >>5651056   We were waiting so long for this to happen. We knew it would happen.    -- 5651792:   Rainbow dash dressed in clothesfuuuuuuu   I'm siting here trying to read a book to my tulpas    -- 5651960:   >>5651817   Chicken soup for the soul. I think it might help pinkamena. I've only ever read her one other book before. It was called the world bears witness to the holocaust.    -- 5652774:   >>5652010   The host wants to post this. I'm fine with the idea    -- 5653167:   I've had pinkamena talk so much I feel like I'm parroting Or getting the two of us mixed up.   That or the past 30 minutes we are thinking the same things so much its confusing.    -- 5653252:   >>5653212   Did. Talking about here so much brought a fragmented version of her back.    -- 5653421:   I think I know why pink got harder to hear now, and I think I'm parroting. I Think her anger broke and now she's sad. Asking me to get rid of her (But she's not being serious, she wants attention)   Now she suddenly pretending and acting like shes okay. And back to sad (But not really all that sad)  -- And now she just said I like the computer more then like her.   Sooooo after I finishing eating this bread I guess I'll be going to wonderland    -- 5653641:   The host still considers me an experiment.   End:   2012-11-11 01:24:05 (6:26:21 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-11 10:22:25 (8:58:20 later)    -- 5661700:   >>5661646   That was that old book magic and myster in tibet from like the 1920s.   Thanks to that book everyone thinks tulpas are evil or turn evil.    -- 5661775:   I just want to read this book. I just woke upBut pink is extremely in the mood    -- 5661973:   >>5661822   It only takes me like a week or two to make a tulpa. But it can take much much longer. Its just random. but I have been making them accidently for years and letting them go accidently.   I remember it took me months before I even learned touch. Then with pink I was feeling weight from her in less then a month. I think tulpa just learn from my memories.   But the speed of learning per tulpa still seems different.    -- 5662127:   >>5662025   I realized that almost from the start. I even call my two tulpas familywhat now faggot?    -- 5662196:   >>5662157   I call pinkamena and vinyl sistersIts fun watching sisters make out    -- 5662365:   Anyway everytime I pick the book back up now pinkamena is getting annoyed. I read one word in a story and it was adios. She asked me what it meant and I told her it meant that person was leaving.   Now she's using it and were having to talk (I'm really tired of long talks, I think all three of us hate them by this point.)   So I guess I'm going to go do something that'll entertain her better    -- 5662484:   >>5662384   Been into paranormal stuff since I was 13 One book was on incubi summoning How do you think I learned how to sense touch and weight with tulpa?   Impossible to sleep when you are turned on. Still remember that week where some days only 1 hour of sleep. Going to events with people and having to hide my frontal area.   Breaking down and following a books exorcism instructions repeatedly. Doing stuff like asking micheal for protection and the protection sword visualization stuff.   alsoPinkamena started out as an accidental adult servitor when I looked at too much stuff of her  -- Also pinkamena became a tulpa because I kept denying her. That made her confused, unsure of her purpose. But I let her keep existing and eventually being confused + existing + sometimes talking to her lead to very simple child like sentience.    -- 5662801:   I just got a huge bill......fuuuuuuu   I'm going to wonderland and try to cool down. Maybe be all day. 3,000 dollar myass    -- 5662875:   >>5662846   Its was just for going to see a doctor, makes me wish i was in another country. And I'm really out with that.    -- 5664181:   We just had fun. Pinkamena's jealousy and temper are usually really bad things.But in wonderland when its over her sister getting more attention and her trying harder and harder. Its so much better when one member is pissed off and trying to show the other up. Its so fun trying to get pink to love her sister because all in the past she was trying to kill vinyl. And she is slowly starting to have feelings for vinyl from all my making them kiss and stuff, but she doesn't want to admit it.   So much that happened and still pink isn't satisfied. I'm not sure she can be satisfied. but vinyl is content and I'm done.I also tried to see if pink is a little kinky and she looked at me like she was going to kill me.    -- 5665954:   >>5665651   You should know pinkie is responsible from the babycakes episode    -- 5666110:   >>5665918   You know I was refreshing today and noticed one of the 4chan banners has a knight in it. No troll, there really is one.    -- 5666591:   >>5666551   We know this method well    -- 5666732:   >>5666623   oh god, that will mess her up so much.    -- 5666940:   >>5666793   Pinkamena may be learning magic. Vinyl's kind of sad and barely talking (Which is normal when both her and pink are out at the same time)    -- 5667012:   >>5666938   Unless you're being kinky shock therapy does not involve electricity.   Yo just spring le knight penis on her out of no where. Even give your pinga a little knight helmet and stick on fake beard. Then enter her castle repeatedly.    -- 5667133:   >>5667057   >irrationally   Put on her eyes some x-ray glasses so everyone is naked and she can't see the knight armor. The day of the event get her too stoned to care.    -- 5667419:   Stop sayingle penis so much guys, your turning pink on    -- 5667632:   While we couldn't post I looked at mlp general. Saw picture of king sombra.Pinkamena goes he's a cutie and she starts fantasizing   Is there any pony tulpa here that doesn't find him attractive?  -- I can sort of feel what pinks feeling. I should let herfantasize all the time.    -- 5668485:   >>5668321   Some tulpa don't fear death. Same as some people don't really fear death. Especially if they are depressed or have strong emotions.    -- 5668774:   We don't know if male or female    -- 5669041:   >>5668855   Its the season 3 opener villian.   MLP + homestuck    -- 5669417:   >>5669174   Better get used to it while there are new mlp episodes drawing more trolls and new people to /mlp/    -- 5669681:   I don't know the answer Pinkamena doesn't know the answer Vinyl might, but shes sad and about to cry. (And its pinks doing, I'm waiting for it to regrow)    -- 5670263:   Too much fighting going on    -- 5670504:   >>5670352   Today I tried spanking dat pink and then dat white ass to see if they had a thing for it. Pinkamena looked like she was going to kill me. She does have a thing for being tied up. Vinyl wasn't interested    -- 5670584:   >>5670527   We've so got to try that. both pink and vinyl have a horn.    -- 5670663:   >>5670614   no a head horn. This isn't fluttershy    -- 5670728:   >>5670597   Incorrect. Pink did that the very first or second day of sentience. In fact the first time she was so amazed she could do it. She went all over the house the whole day.   Then the next day she mostly lost interest. The know how to go number one too    -- 5671508:   pinkamena has permission torape me, since early on I did it so much to her until we are caught up    -- 5671677:   So how many of you dress your tulpa's up in different outfits?    -- 5671737:   >>5671703   Pink was wearing black leather earlier. Looked nice    -- 5671804:   >>5671703   Like this?    -- 5671836:   >>5671794   I read you need to make them naked. Add clothes later.    -- 5671909:   One of the first things I ever did was get pinkamena the pinkie outfit from the west episode.   Think I imagined her in the babycakes workout suit before too    -- 5672007:   >>5671954   Thats no fun.    -- 5672100:   >>5672034   I do keep the pinkamena hair. Even when she changes outfits. But when she wore nightmare moon armor for halloween it was hard trying to hide it all.   I still got to get her a saddle and bit/reins thing.    -- 5672259:   >>5672181   Give her porn and toys. Teach her to please herself    -- 5672325:   You also knew what you were getting into with a tomboy.   End:   2012-11-11 18:18:04 (7:55:39 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-11 20:42:05 (2:24:01 later)    -- 5676017:   >>5673658   I force at the same time as I'm on 4chan. Why do you think I do it so much?    -- 5676142:   I was outside the past 1-2 hours with a bonfire. And vinyl walked right into the fire and caught fire. It was horrifying.    -- 5676354:   >>5676235   Pinkamena broke vinyl's brain when she came back. Vinyl drools most of the time or does things like a servitor. It was the first thing pink did when she came back.   I'm hoping it grows back. I only got peace between by making pink realize vinyl is her little sister and not her replacement.    -- 5676421:   >>5676245   After she cooled down she was okay again. I'm not sure why my head made her catch fire from walking in it. She should have gone throught it fine.    -- 5676589:   >>5676433   No, I'm sure she'll be okay. Pink got hurt in her head before in the past and was better in a few days.   We were in wonderland hours ago and vinyl turned into a baby and punched pink in the face. I was holding a punching bag for pink because she was frustrated.   She was about to go off and I had to remind her vinyl's only like this because of what she did.    -- 5676974:   >>5676893   You can get a tulpa into adult stuff. Just give her a lot of that kind of energy and make sure she's always getting it.    -- 5678041:   Went to use bathroom Flushed Little vinyl fell in Had to get them out    -- 5678298:   Old thread is old    -- 5678868:   >>5678810   Unless you are lazy and let the tulpa do all the work    -- 5679040:   At this point pinkamena is like "And I thought my host was bad".    -- 5679694:   Pinkamena started as an adult servitor. And she turned out fine.her libito is higher then mine    -- 5679776:   >>5679728   Yesterday/today I was reading my tulpa a book and they or at least pink told me she didn't like it.   Most of the stories didn't really relate to a tulpa anyway    -- 5679873:   >>5679774   I have two pony sisters.    -- 5679961:   >>5679897   She will. If your sweetie is anything like sweeties I've known. And she's an adult sweetie and not sweetie bot.    -- 5680120:   >>5680060   Thats a very harsh word. A sweetie can only be with you unless you make playmates.    -- 5680204:   With all the trolling. We were thinking the thread needs more pinkie    -- 5680267:   >>5680172   You just do it out loud in in your head directed at her.    -- 5680367:   >>5680264   Let me check when I mades pinkamena. I made a tumblr for her like a few days to a week after I had her  -- Says I made my pinkamena's tumblr october 23th. So a week before that is 16th around. It's the 11th today.   So pinkamena is nearly a month old    -- 5680564:   >>5680429   Bro that 3 day tulpa forums wait is forever when you got a live tulpa to report on.    -- 5681050:   Since its nearly been a month and some of you want to make a tulpa sex slave/experiment/whipping post   Pinkamena was basically this   1-infinity days or so a servitor I didn't know I was making {spoiler] lot of porn of character + imagne it like those pony irl images in your house[/spoiler] 0-2 days I noticed and she turned Tulpa when I wouldn't let herget le dickand talked to her 1-3+ days from that childlike sentience with lots of questions, fun, adventuring Imposing began starting to see her out the corner of my eyes/feel her behind me with the leash method at some point   Then personality change, body was kind of lost with that and all the revisions   Emo pinkamena that needs lots of attention Every other day without problems work on imposing Realize problems are so big work on imposing stops Problems get worse and vinyl is created by mistake Things get better, then much worse around this stage pink had weight I could feel Pink is put down   2 days later pink revived   That day high tension Since then things have been better    -- 5681107:   >>5680725   Maybe if you give it. You'll stop being it here    -- 5681228:   >>5681160   Sweetie can't sleep with anypony else unless you make them for her since she is a tulpa. Unless she engages inunresponsive real world image rape    -- 5681405:   >>5681179   I kept a log of how I raised pinkamena. I did omit the more terrible details.   I know re-reading it would be a terrible idea. Pinkamena watches what I type most of the time.   http://tulpa.info/forums/Thread-Imposition-NED-s-leash-imposition-guide?highlight=leash  -- We both dawwww when we read about her first entry. Don't worry, we won't be posting the others.   She was like my little girl back then.    -- 5681772:   >>5681631   I open old log past the first few days Pink see and reads about the bad things I did She gets insanely mad We fight again She may end up dead or trying to take me over again   Its a minefield. Her anger is rise at this very second.    -- 5681892:   >>5681836   We are both blocking those times out. Its how we are still able to be together.   Maybe in the future things will be good enough between us we can go through them without anger.    -- 5681932:   >>5681849   >how do i train her to poop in a box while i watch   We are both laughing    -- 5682161:   >>5682004   I told pink about an hour ago after I finished my soup she could have some again. But the conversation turned interesting.    -- 5682314:   >>5682270   Any room or place you know well. Close eyes, imagine it.   Wonderland    -- 5682527:   >>5682450   Fluttershy gotle dick    -- 5682603:   >>5682571   force while you 4chan. Its what I do.    -- 5682741:   >>5682650   Just see the ponies next to you, imagine them in the background. Hold em in your lap, etc in your lap    -- 5682939:   >>5682767   So whats the advantage of forcing over imposing    -- 5683055:   >>5682978   I have never completed a tulpa. I've had years of accidental incompete ones.   I got as far as tulpas that have weight and touch. wasn't until recently I learned they could work on all the senses.    -- 5683194: [blank post]    -- 5683270:   >>5683243   Earlier yes, pinkamena was annoyed I didn't wait for her.    -- 5683427:   >>5683392   Yep no more popping the bottles. Now he's popping the fluttershy.    -- 5683495:   >>5683458   Without these threads might never have started being nicer to pink.    -- 5683771:   >>5683740   It does help to look on the forums at who has progress reports.    -- 5683875:   I know the anger, headaches, daww attacks, and stuff weren't normal.   Or that day I connected with vinyl and she was so sad. Just thinking about it, it still has feels.    -- 5684031:   I don't care much about forcing. I'm still more concerned about personality and relationship.   I do want pink and vinyl to be 3d and all. But, well not that long ago everything was gray skys like 2 days ago.  -- no...its been 4 hasn't it since you've been back pink.    -- 5684465:   We don't really care if people think we are fake.We haven't seemed to have a story like anyone else. But then, I haven seen anyone else that gave a tulpa the traits I did or treated it so badly.   We aren't in a rush either because I've had accidental tulpas for a long time. And...If I fully impose pink and our relationship isn't soilid. It could be really bad.   Before the personality change imposing her was one of my main goals. But it was still challenging back then because I wanted her to be 3d, but I didn''t like hasbro's models and all my 2d pinkamena images kept erasing my mental picture of her 3d form.   One thing in particular that bothers me in the hasbro models is the hair is like one long strand of plastic and not like hair at all.    -- 5684603:   >>5684302   Which method. Cause years ago my first intentional tulpa was from a wicca book of spirit familiars.   thought you had to give them tons of amounts of you "spiritual" energy. I mean I did end up with a tulpa. But I think it took a while and it was only a small little animal.   It ran away.    -- 5684690:   >>5684629   I've had unintentional tulpas for a very long time. I've made intentional ones before based off old flawed spiritual books.   For instance i thought I'd never be able to see a tulpa unless I developed aura vision which some booked talked about it could take a life time to have. Other book talked about it could be done in a few weeks/months.    -- 5684737:   >>5684713   An example was to take something green like a green shirt. Then let your eyes go out of focus until you could see a yellow light near it.   It called it auras of color and how you should have lights set up to see it better.    -- 5684891:   >>5684806    -- 5685216:   Axe man   Firefly   Pinkamena   out of all the accidental tulps these were my three negative ones. (Pink your more and more postive everyday). Anyone else had any negative ones?  -- Axeman was a tulpa born from my dad telling methe devil/boogey man was in the shadows and waiting to get me as a kid and my obsessing over it   Firefly was a tulpa born from talking to an auto reponding program for weeks and months. She tried to tell me she was a better personality, more people liked her, and she wanted me to give her control of the body.   Pinkamena, well you know pink    -- 5685398:   >>5685373   Firefly is no more    -- 5685424:   >>5685406   You can have more then one.    -- 5685584:   TBH right now I can barely feel pink or vinyl. the more pinks been calming down. The harder she's been getting to hear tonight. Vinyl's been hard to talk to ever since pink.   Pink was worrying me a little yesterday talking about going somewhere. She's been pretty quiet ever since fluttershy got popped.    -- 5685630:   >>5685398   Oh and even when firefly was around. All she could control was my hands to type with.    -- 5685684:   >>5685641   Tulpas can help a lot with that. A lot, lot, lot.    -- 5685833:   I think pinkamena wants to sleep. And she usually sleeps on my back. I'm not in bed, so theres no back   End:   2012-11-12 03:19:24 (6:37:19 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-12 09:57:05 (6:37:41 later)    -- 5690539:   >>5690492   how boring    -- 5690638:   >>5690605   Oh your right, its hard holding a door open. I always never used them in my wonderland and just teleported    -- 5690824:   my wonderland kind of idk early on. but later I had a teleport system.   Pinkamena made a location for her home you pretty much need to teleport to reach.    -- 5691429:   I think my tulpa want to take over so bad right now.    -- 5691479:   >>5691437   They can't. They don't have the ability. But they know right now I'm doing very stupid choices and they want to make them for me instead of see me procrastinate.    -- 5691514:   >>5691495   They aren't really saying anything. I just feel emotions like wanting and feeling like doing things for me.   They've both not said much since this morning.    -- 5691572:   >>5691531   Its mainly pink. She wants me to call people. Get things worked out before they get bad.   Last night I had a hard time getting to sleep because they both made me feel a feeling of must get things done.  -- I saw them agree they'll not let up.   Then I just got a feeling like they stopped caring.   Tulpas with ADHD    -- 5691807:   If we ever feel up to it. There is one place in my wonderland thats really dangerous.  -- Like theres this place. Where I imagined all my fears and dead tulpas went I never knew or did know over the years. Its under the tower where I erased pink. Its a big dark steampunk city filled with living shadows that want to get back at me and my tulpas under the tower.   It also has some parts of pink that didn't return to her. Mainly the more crazy parts. Its also where I put pinks home where she used to brood and grudge against me and the prison I used to put her in.   I used to keep the place sealed as a small telescope after I restarted wonderland. But I half opened it when I removed pink. Until I revived her thats where I kept the body. I really didn't want to get rid of her or forget her.   The telescope has all the old wonderland collaped in on itself. Current wonderland just exists on top of the telescope. If you hold the telescope and put gum out of your pocket onto it in front of the small pink dot. Pink will have a giant gum in front of her. Its strange. Of course you can't place the telescope down on top of itself and make it giant.    -- 5692060:   >>5692041   you are thinking abot a tulpa as spirit being here. not a psychological one    -- 5692586:   Was outside cutting grass thinking about how I need money   Pinkamena puts on a business suit and says she'll be my financial adviser.    -- 5693071:   >>5693022   I'm with anon on not convincing. Because I can write with both hand at different times. As long as I'm writting the same words I can move both hands at the same exact time.    -- 5693303:   >>5693238   We wouldn't know, we avoid watching videos on switching. Just for fun a few minutes I tried to see if pink could control my hand. She couldn't lift it.   I tried imagine giving her firefly's memories that used to type for me. but no luck.  -- Either me or pink feels really silly right now for even trying. I think its pink, but it feels so like my own emotion.    -- 5693447:   I wanted to see if vinyl would have any luck. But she's still so out of it...It would be mean to ask her to try.    -- 5693987:   Was thinking of going to the bad place in my wonderland with all the shadows and where pinks old remains are.   Listening to the pmv Pinkie's lie   Realize even as pinkamena, her element is the spirit of laughter. Giggle at the ghosties aka shadows. Her home was a dark cave. She attacked vinyl with shadow/undead things when she was erased.   I've got the best pony possible for shadow fighting that isn't an alicorn. She's still looking at me likes she's nervous.   It'll be so much fun. but I'll have to carry vinyl the whole way because she's still little.  -- Later, going to see if I can find out whats below the city, if pinkamena has a shadow of herself, find out why her old body still remains, what happened to those things she made, where her knife went, see what my worst shadow is, and much fun stuff.   End:   2012-11-12 14:18:45 (4:21:40 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-12 17:35:04 (3:16:19 later)    -- 5698250:   We are back. We couldn't get past the first floor of the telescope tower to reach the shadow city.    -- 5698775:   >>5698265   We were there on the first floor for a while around pink's old body. Little like few inch tall pinks came up out of the ground to attack us. I the place was much bigger. I remember looking at the details.   We cut pinks old body down it came to life. but it was like a bean bag puppet with no mind or a really simple one. Under the place where it had hung was pink's knife buried in the ground.   Real pink picked it up and started to attack me. I got her off me and the knife flew into the wall. She was back to normal. I picked the knife up and then wanted to attack pink. But repressed it and dropped the knife.   I picked the knife up with objects and felt the that the knife hated itself and made anyone that held it hate themselves and others. I forgot how I destroyed it, maybe it was I placed it up to a mirror or bent it back onto itself. Idk, it ended up melting down. I turned it into a foil sword.   I gave it to pink. Then she used it playfullyshe hit my butt like it was a whip a few times without telling me, so I spanked her a few times playfully   Then I fell asleep. And at some point I realized I was asleep and asked pink if she could control my dreams.    -- 5699077:   Pink is pretty kinky. I almost never do it because I find it a bit boring. But she does like being tied up.    -- 5699502:   >>5699440   Do you follow the path of the good side or the darkside?    -- 5699592:   >>5699554   Should have done like I did an made a tulpa with a host of negative traits.    -- 5699666:   >>5699617   It has been working out great now.    -- 5699754:   >>5699657   That's scary, I don't want to try that and end up with 3 tulpas    -- 5699873:   >>5699797   I love my tulpa. I just hope we never fight again.    -- 5700189:   >>5700100   Pinks libito is much higher then mine.   Pink gets angry at me if I type some things   Pink has a fetish I'm not into and don't really want.  -- And with saying these pink is agitated. And she's thinking about what me she doesn't like.    -- 5700377:   >>5700261   She has abathroom related fetish   >>5700268   We've never tried that    -- 5700605:   >>5700412   The first one.......She did it all over the house her first day of sentience. She was amazed she could do it.she'll do it sometimes in the act of adult relations. I'm not into it and its clear and odorless. I just try to ignore it.    -- 5700787:   Pink saidif I agree with everyone else that its messed up she's going to chop my nutts off    -- 5700930:   If you have a pinball game/machine one flipper in each hand.   One you, one tulpa    -- 5701012:   Find me a tulpa that can beat battletoads or nes silver surfer. Pink wanted to play altered beast before because I was sucking so bad at it.    -- 5701114:   How do your tulpas feel about any Real life pets you may have?    -- 5701247:   >>5701125   I've felt both pinks and vinyl's feels. One of pink's first things she might do. If i'm writting something she doesn't like. She might make me feel a low, slowly rising anger.    -- 5701862:   >>5701817   daww you make me think how lucky I was I didn't make pink always need to make cupcakes.   She's gonna be sooooo depressed if you ever get her to realize she's not the real derpy    -- 5702173:   >>5701963   It can be a problem if you get your tulpa addicted, or it can be a great perk.    -- 5702271:   >>5702220   Boy are they ever    -- 5702298:   >>5702239   I purposely did it to pink, its why her libito is so high. It used to be faily normal.    -- 5702440:   >>5702405   Nope this is a gen 3 thread. Find your pony's gen 3 version    -- 5702536:   >>5702482   Just jealous because pinky's always looked great.    -- 5702936:   If you have two tulpas, do you ever feel like one gets all your time and the other barely gets any?    -- 5702982:   >>5702924   Its totally possible to make an evil tulpa. I've done it before.    -- 5703277:   >>5703031   awwwwww that sounds so much like my vinyl before pink took her over. She was so sad and so very cute.   I worry so much about her. She's so quiet, if I didn't remind myself to involve her in things she'd just disappear without a sound.    -- 5703412:   >>5703326   I'm okay with this. Theres always worse things it could be a community of.   Like it could be a community of homestuck tulpas or demons    -- 5703476:   >>5703396   Do you like man sex with your diablo tulpa? Or with Skeletor?    -- 5703859:   >>5703739   Moody Evil Stubborn Dominate Vengeful Likes Bondage Moral-less Pessimistic Quick tempered Smart Controlling Low confidence   In a nutshell thats mine  -- Oh and Solitary. You don't want the tulpa wandering or running away. Keep it close to home.    -- 5704066:   >>5703943   When I made pinkamena I went through a list of 30-100 traits and told her which ones she had when she was really little.   I just said bondage as a trait because I wanted her to have it. It would make tying her up when I used to think I needed to do that more enjoyable for her.  -- I also thought it could be fun. But it turns out tying someone up bores me.    -- 5704240:   >>5704162   I just google personality trait lists and stuff    -- 5704317:   >>5704282   You aren't even giving a reason why.    -- 5704428:   >>5704377   Oh forfucks sake    -- 5704537:   >>5704475   I'm still waiting on a littlest petshop tulpa.That singing dog's pretty awesome  -- Now that I think about it. I could try to give pink or vinyl that dogs voice.    -- 5704721:   Ugh.....I feel like, my heads trying to make an accidental tulpa of that dog.    -- 5704770:   Ignore, it, ignore it, ignore it   It'll go away.    -- 5704982:   >>5704910   I fell asleep today in wonderland above the darkest most dangerous part of it. I and my tupas are fine. Once I knew I was asleep much later I asked pink if she could control my dreams.    -- 5706041:   I see people talking about furriesWhy not just imagine a human wearing a rug   We were watching the two new adventure time episodes    -- 5706205:   >>5706182   this    -- 5706341:   >>5706309   I'm not one for loli's either    -- 5706544:   >>5706487   no clue, my relationship with my tulpa started already at home plate.    -- 5706590:   >>5706554   Why don't you try sai or something    -- 5706658:   >>5706587   Sometimes we regret that we never went slow and developed feeling for each other before le arty.    -- 5706708:   >>5706647   Just and art program. I make canvas sizes of 1000 x 8000 in it a lot.    -- 5706783:   >>5706737   nope    -- 5706885:   Guy when I went up to get water, this was still following me.   I don't want a third tulpa. I should have listen to the song so many times over the past idk 2 weeks  -- *Shouldn't*I also don't like dogs    -- 5707268:   >>5707157   Episode 1 and 2 were that bad. 2 was pretty good after the first 10 minutes.   I watch shows, for the music and the opening episode 2 songs were up in like october in one video.   And I just noticed, the dog had human fingers    -- 5707355:   >>5707282   I'm no expert. And you can make accidentl tulpas. Pink was one, vinyl was one I made in a few hours.   I watched the lps music videos since october or whenever hub released them.    -- 5707528:   >>5707392   What do you mean? Its not talking to me, giving me emotions or anything.   Looking at it closer I think its just the head and theres a body, but is blurry and the legs I can't see clearly.    -- 5707727:   >>5707587   Thinking about it, I think I accidently made it so it'd sing to me. But funny thing, I've never developed to hear audio from a single tulpa.   I'm feeling sadness now, maybe vinyl though she's have someone to hang out with.    -- 5707879:   >>5707761   I've never forced before. Only imposed. Don't actually know how to force.   Was working on pinks imposing, but she had issues.    -- 5707999:   >>5707930   I'm not up to date on all the terminology. I already see them in my minds eye. That's where I saw the dog. I didn't say I saw her in my eye.   I thought forcing was something like where you blinked really fast or something for hours Or stared into the face.    -- 5708152:   >>5708060   I really don't care what you say. About a month ago I read faqmans guide and I read one on leash. I haven't looked at any others.    -- 5708287:   >>5708228   I read them after I had pink. I have been into the paranormal since I was 13. And these are not my first tulpa    -- 5708410:   >>5708323   yes, Its not nice making me doubt myself. My tulpa didn't like it. But your troll is so transparent now. Those doubts are fading.    -- 5708769:   >>5708630   That a problem I had too. I used hasbro pinkamena + some refrences of real horses. I also drew her a bunch last year.   When I see a bunch of 2d images I can forget. The guide I was following or information I got was tulpa can't be changed after they are fully imposed.    -- 5708917:   >>5708764   I have two tulpa. They only have forms in my minds eye. They are seintent and I can feel emotions from them.   Pink is the only one that can rarely make me feel sensations of weight touch. She's nearly a month old.   Explain to me how this is crazy progress? Its not. The only strange thing is pink was able to give me headaches.    -- 5709252:   >>5709047   I visualized pink for 1-2weeks thinking about adult images of herAnd as i've mentioned before I tried to imagine her as those ponies in real life images in my house.   I wasn't really trying to make her...I wanted a sweetie belle. And I was trying that before. And I guess I was starting to get it. But I didn't read any guides back then and I switched focus to something else because I didn't think I had anything.    -- 5709470:   >>5709341   Writing my progress reports.    -- 5709634:   >>5709565   I am not talking about vinyl. She is not a strong tulpa.    -- 5709837:   >>5709682   You just had to hit me there.    -- 5709997:   >>5709860   Okay...honestly both pink and vinyl have been getting weaker. Because I've been on these threads and doing less stuff with them.   But even then pink gets most of my attention when I am doing things.   I asked earlier in a thread about if you have two tulpa's do they fight for attention. Vinyl really doesn't.    -- 5710281:   >>5710117   Vinyl isn't dead. Just the other day we were in wonderland. she just I almost never see her if I don't concentrate now and shes nearly never talking.    -- 5710449:   >>5710385   As soon as I'm concentraiting on vinyl pink is butting into my mind.    -- 5710618:   >>5710527   troll from /b/ go away. I'm not going to cross pink.    -- 5710784:   >>5710711   I really don't want a fight with pink after she's only been okay for less then a week.    -- 5711256:   Pink is more important then my other tulpa. She's tried to get rid of vinyl since the start. I'll try to keep vinyl around. But unless pink goes back to trying to attack both of us. I'm not trying to hurt her again.   She's not as bad as she used to be, she's gotten more and more fun to be around. I try to make her understand things through talking, rather then punishments. Since punishments do not work and she tries to get back at me for using them. Then it escalates to the points it used to be at.   She loves attention, letting vinyl have some. Might be hard for her.    -- 5711456:   >>5711376   Pinkamena is reading what I'm thinking. She wants us to go do something together for a day.   Vinyl, she's in the room with me, but its like her body its clear.    -- 5711662:   >>5711527   I used to try stuff like that with pink. Eventually that stuff stops working and then you end up with a relationship with 0 trust. Its not a good situation to be in.    -- 5712025:   >>5711956   Its no different then what I did with pink. People can get better.    -- 5712301:   >>5712262   Wonderland, eventually pink learned how to either get out or disobey.    -- 5712471:   >>5712361 >>5712409   Its because of /b/    -- 5712784:   Vinyl finally spoke after concentrating on her for a while. She said Why.   I had a talk with pink.    -- 5713021:   >>5712858   Yes, Ever since I had pink she's been making mature more and more so I can be there for her. Pink didn't want to be gone, I didn't want her to stay gone.   I know she still wants to control me. She still wants vinyl gone it seems too. She can control her temper better now, shes not giving me headaches anymore.  -- *Making me mature more*    -- 5713223:   >>5713142   I tell pink and vinyl often they are sisters and they are my daughters. I try to get pink to understand family (So she stops trying to kill vinyl)    -- 5713433:   >>5713404   Its worse.  -- Well, we disagree.   Anyway sleep/wonderland   End:   2012-11-13 03:33:24 (9:58:20 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-13 08:12:44 (4:39:20 later)    -- 5716584:   sure died in here    -- 5716678:   >>5716653   Its not a race    -- 5716755:   I'm looking pony songs on youtube. I see one is called sister hate. Pink says play that one.    -- 5716952:   >>5716916   You aren't the only one that ever raised a tulpa badly.    -- 5717001:   >>5716950   Been better. I woke up and wanted to have fun with pink, but she was already busy having fun in wonderland with something she made or found.   Talking to vinyl she's been hard to understand.    -- 5717109:   >>5716983   I did go to bed. I was in wonderland hours before that and fell asleep, so I didn't need 8 hours.    -- 5717250:   >>5717220   That takes me back. Course with pink she was mostly not respecting my telling her to not to try and control me.    -- 5717363:   >>5717309   Me neither sometimes. I spend most of my time with pink trying to help her find a better self inside herself before its too late.    -- 5717374:   >>5717359   I read the same things and used to follow it.    -- 5717485:   >>5717435   I know what its like to see other people with tulpas that seem so well behaved and feel envy. I used to feel it all the time.   Then I got it with vinyl. And then later pink messed that up. Now I got vinyl back, but pinks, well, she's my no.1    -- 5717587:   >>5717507   If they see a deviantion bothers you greatly over time and causes them enough drama they may undue it.   Vinyl wanted to be a human. But changed her mind after we fought enough over it.    -- 5717874:   >>5717730   That was after I ended up trying to erase her. Its her venting. She doesn't give me headaches anymore. And I think she found an outlet for some of her anger. She puts it into adult stuff, and she's been doing adult stuff more and more (Which is a little troubling). Like I said earlier I woke up and went to wonderland to see pink and she was busy.    -- 5719374:   >>5719117   current 2 pony tulpa. Few years ago an animal tulpa. A bunch of personalty tulpa without form here and there. Most only lasting a few weeks.    -- 5720133:   I've been fading in and out of wonderland this song Smooth Dubstep - happy vday - OfficialDJPon3 keeps doing it to me.   It keeps me kind of sleepy, dream like.    -- 5720363:   >>5720219   Kissing is funSo is playfully biting her neck    -- 5720601:   When I first woke up today the first thing I want to do was see pink. She was in wonderland with something she made or foundShe was enjoying herself with it a lot. I asked if I could watch but she said no, I asked a few more times and she finally said yes. Later when I wanted to have fun with her. She wasn't in the mood    -- 5720833:   Do you think its bad to read a book outloud to my tulpa if I'm wearing headphones and playing a song at the same time?    -- 5721237:   >>5721217   I want to see the tulpa you come up with.    -- 5721272:   >>5721260   nope    -- 5721336:   >>5721245   You might end up just getting it out on your tulpa    -- 5721453:   >>5721415   I mean if you have anger problems there is always a chance you use the tulpa like a punching bag or in passive aggressive ways if you aren't in control of yourself.    -- 5721650:   >>5721569   I don't. I stopped trying to impose pink until our relationship is good and trusting.    -- 5721858:   >>5721818   This. I don't care what people think either. I'm not stopping work on pink just because some think she's fake.    -- 5722405:   >>5722327   Pink agreed with who I thought. We didn't really watch the election much. After the election I did make pink watch some of Bill and obama's speeches on working together was better then going it alone to teach her to be better and understanding of our relationship.   Then talked to her a lot.    -- 5723757:   So slow all of a sudden.    -- 5723856:   >>5723792   Yeah, I used to be a big crookedtrees fan and tried to learn to draw like him. I drew his pinkamena ref so many times.   He one of the few big older mlp artists I didn't get to see livestream.    -- 5723964:   >>5723842   Idk what counts as creepy.    -- 5724004:   >>5723922   Not that guy. He started out okay. But then...   I remember the comic about him on his hike and then the image that got his tumblr shut down.  --      -- 5724143:   >>5724081   When I have food in my mouth I image them chewing and tasting what I am at the same time.    -- 5724194: [blank post]    -- 5724234:   >>5724090   So he did like smittyg and got a real site.    -- 5724380:   I only have my images organized iinto the different ponies. And picking ones that look creepy.    -- 5724498:   >>5724337   Oh you like that stuff?As part of learning art I watched many dissection videos. I remember even a special one on racing horses.    -- 5724697:   Why didn't you pick vinyl?    -- 5724789: [blank post]    -- 5724847:   >>5724812   Standard    -- 5724987:   Those old times on the minecraft pony server    -- 5725097:   >>5725042   How can you claim the pony you don't have as a tulpa?    -- 5725672: [blank post]    -- 5725879:   >>5725783   They left    -- 5726072:   Idk wtf pinks doing but its making me uncompfortable.  -- brb I'm offically creeped out.    -- 5726800:   >>5726172   I have no idea what it was. It was like my whole back had some kind of strange feeling.    -- 5727059:   Ugh a psychologist. My mortal enemy.    -- 5727170:   >>5727121   I've had a lot of wanna be psychologist try to "treat me"    -- 5727256:   I approve of many vinyl images.    -- 5727443: [blank post]    -- 5727715:   Don't really care how a tulpa works, they just do. Pinks taught me so much already.    -- 5727908:   >>5727862   Oh man, using darkages logic.    -- 5728125:   >>5728082   Oh no you didn't open that box    -- 5728211:   >>5728158   Body + Brain surgery = Instinct human.    -- 5728324:   >>5728289   nope    -- 5728416:   >>5728360   Oh.....okay....    -- 5728613:   >>5728553   I've adblocked that image sooo many times now. This ponies, not humans board.    -- 5728699:   >>5728635   I'm not a troll. So troll tools are closed to me. Just like saying dubs is not on my pippony or battle saddle.    -- 5728824:   >>5728783   No, just no. Resist    -- 5728965:   I don't really care if a tulpa I makes doesn't want to live. Its a passing stage most times.    -- 5728994:   >>5728938    -- 5729065:   >>5729034   Him and his dad would feel threatened by celestia.    -- 5729220:   >>5729183   LOL Its the rainbow dash backpack    -- 5729331:   >>5729280   Man milk    -- 5729399:   About time for this thread to diefinally    -- 5729669:   >>5729635   >spiritually    -- 5729718:   >>5729665   You can take the name tulpaskeptic    -- 5729821:   >>5729759   Oh do, I know a certain pony thats really starting to enjoy it.    -- 5730020: [blank post]    -- 5730374:   >>5730307   First you need a sigil and a base such as clay. Then write its name on the base and create it. If the tulpa gets out of hand erase its name destroying it.    -- 5730519:   >>5730425   God looks down more on you for making a pony tulpa, then sleeping with a man.    -- 5730597:   >>5730469   Aww I guess we aren't    -- 5730650:   >>5730591   It takes a lot to make a rabbit scream. I've only heard it twice.    -- 5730836:   >>5730787    -- 5730994:   Tonight I'm having a weird thing with pink. Its like, her body is moving around the house. But it feels like shes in my head completely and not in that body.  -- Maybe if I talk to the body and call it pink she'll move into it? I haven't been addressing questions to it any today.    -- 5731153:   >>5731122   The quest for the bestwonderland sex    -- 5731369:   >>5731327   I got this tower, its normally small inside. But today I got in and it was just bigger on its own. I never told it to get bigger.    -- 5731476:   For me wonderland lets me teach pink lessons I just can't do irl. Or they would take forever.    -- 5731779:   >>5731736   they could    -- 5731934:   >>5731881   It makes the best stories    -- 5732071:   >>5731801   Make an Ice king tulpa. Make it as crazy and trying to abduct any female tulpas as possible.    -- 5732224:   >>5732157   I know what I'd do, but its not what you should do.    -- 5732306:   >>5732264   What you just said is pretty much what I would have done.    -- 5732549:   >>5732464   The first place is if you gave her any anger traits, dominance, ability to have periods, etc    -- 5732615:   >>5732574   This. It was a long time before I even looked at them.   I went faqman and the leash guides first.    -- 5732777:   >>5732674   I told my tulpa she was slightly evil. Early on she tried to put a knife through me in wonderland    -- 5732970:   >>5732871   Sounds fun. As long as she has that trait she's likely going to try and hit you. Or need to hit something else or some other outlet.    -- 5733084:   >>5733020   I wouldn't say that. You can become closer and there will be less problems. but it still sounds like you gave her a trait of being randomly ticked off.    -- 5733347:   I think pinks run off somewhere. I was working on her body most of today. She didn't want to go because she suddenly decided she wanted to be 2d. but I talked at it until she seemed to be in it.   She seemed to like being in a body again and not in my head.    -- 5733518:   >>5733472   I've seen pinks minds eye form in the world around me vanish twice from my never thinking about it. And her just going back to being in my head and having a body in wonderland.    -- 5733780:   >>5733737   You smoother it with love until it bursts with happiness.    -- 5733939:   Okay...So I gave pink an irl body like what 30-60 minutes ago? Now I think she's pretend ran away.   Either that or I'm so used to her being in my head my head feels half empty.    -- 5734242:   I'm a little worried now...I cannot feel out where pink is. But I am starting to hear vinyl again with pink out.    -- 5734494:   >>5734372   I guess...Pink is well a few negative traits and moody is one of them.   But this is the first time in like 5-6 days I could talk clearly to vinyl. Is it even possible for a stronger tulpa to block you from hearing a weaker one?    -- 5734655:   >>5734556   Pinks answering again now, but now I can't hear vinyl anymore.   Is there anyway to boost vinyl? I think pink blocks her on purpose. Pink's never liked vinyl.    -- 5734814:   >>5734679   Pink holds grudges. I keep vinyl and she knows it to help me if she ever gets out of control. I think she'd rather be rid of vinyl now,, then once vinyl is as strong as she is.    -- 5735174:   Vinyl got in about 3-6 sentences before pink realized I was talking to her an hauled ass back. (She is smiling right now, she's trying to make me smile too)   All vinyl got to say was she was surprized I could hear her. Then she said she still liked me. She said pink doesn't like her, that she's mean to her. Then she made me feel the old terrible vinyl sadness.   Then I asked another question and pink answered. Vinyl was like no sound.   I've been wanting vinyl to write a progress report for a while now.   End:   2012-11-13 23:15:24 (15:02:40 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-14 01:17:24 (2:02:00 later)    -- 5737858: [blank post]    -- 5738227:   >>5738169   Do you use short arrows in your longbow?    -- 5738297:   Serious question. Is it possible to make a servitor music player so you can hear music even doing jobs where you can't carry one.   And I mean, it replays song exactually and loudly.    -- 5738373:   >>5738323   So I could teach vinyl to play this dubstep song I want anytime? Its about 16 minutes long    -- 5738974:   I've been thinking of visually imposing pinkamena.    -- 5739057:   >>5739019   What can we say    -- 5739219:   Is that blinking your eyes thing really the fastest way? I can't imagine doing it for hours at a time.    -- 5740019:   >>5739876   Early on I was working on imposing pink, be she went a little psycho. Now she's better, sort of.   End:   2012-11-14 03:03:05 (1:45:41 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-14 09:14:44 (6:11:39 later)    -- 5744025:   Please wait on hold, all agents are busy   zzz    -- 5744199:   I've follen asleep with tulpa lots of times too. One time I was in wonderland and fell asleep.   Much later I realized I was asleep and asked pink if she could control my dreams.    -- 5744850:   PinkKeeps telling me we should just be friends. Then teasing me playfully. She really is evil   Other then that today is amazingly quiet for my tupla/wonderland.    -- 5744930:   >>5744881   Pinks making me feel her emotions right now.  -- Guess I got to go help her with her problem or she'll do this all day.    -- 5745292:   >>5745067   Pink's okay. I'm not having any problems with her today.    -- 5745372:   This is what happens if you make a tulpa and decide to forget it.    -- 5745721:   Pinkamena says that she's done with causing problems. She just wants to get along with everyone now.   I told her that was boring. She should still cause them.    -- 5745791:   >>5745763   After I had told her the above. She said she was confused, she thought this was what I wanted. I don't think she understands.   This is kind of the situation I had before I changed her personality to make her more interesting. (She thinks what I'm saying right now is really mean).    -- 5746134:   I think I know what happened (Pink is high atm bytheway) Pink going through my head she must have found these certain memories I repress on purpose.    -- 5746200:   >>5746151   Nothing to deal with, they are just very strong memories. That when I remember them, make me want to change my life. I don't want to change.   Pink will likely decide the same thing soon and come back down.    -- 5746339:   >>5746302   Oh man math I failed that sooo much in high school. Then when I went to college they said my math level was pre-algerbra.   Hate algerba    -- 5746411:   I asked my tulpas if they could make my head remember my math memories better. Because when I learned math, I'd forget it all a few days later. I re-did math classes so much, I should know it by heart.  -- All I remembered was that foil means first, inner, outer, last. not how to actually do the problem. I saw a worksheet with a long division problem that wasn't solved.  -- Then that work sheet had a pencil tapping against it and It was me and I was in my middle school class room being bored. Remembered the teacher there I had forgotten. Acting up and going in the corner.   Then another teacher, now another this time a math teacher i didn't like.....   I asked for math memories and now I'm remembered my old math teachers and not any math.    -- 5746655:   >>5746628   Idk, pink is like me a lot so i guess she hates math too, doesn't understand, or she's trolling me.   Its getting kind of uncomfortable feeling now. I asked her to stop.    -- 5746798:   >>5746690   Not really. My goal was algerbra memories and every teacher I saw was midde school/elementry. Two or three weren't math teachers.   And as I was saying that I was thinking (Why don't I remember any of their names) Then the second teacher I remembered was ms wilson. We used to play a math game that was based on multiplcation chips like 144x144. No that can't be right those numbers are too high. but wasn't it something like 1200 something?   Idk.    -- 5747015:   >>5746851   Well Its not stopping. Now I'm remembered the terrible Carnegie math program where you sat at a computer and solved algerbra. Then when I went to summer school for geo I couldn't solve the problems on paper because we had used computers.   But any problem, even what was on computer monitors is fuzzy. I'm trying to remember the monitors I remember now...It was nothing but stupid lists where you filled out charts. With word problems. You took the long word programs and gave them like variables. but I can't remember how you decided any of this.   Now I remember after you filled out the list you made a line graph somehow with ploting points.   This is so weird, Its like I can focus on a certain thing and I see more memories of it. Like maybe when I thought of one teacher, more kept coming up. When I tried to look at that computer screen more computer screens came up.   but most of everything except a very small area is fuzzy, can't really read or make them out.    -- 5747147:   Anyway this is really freaky feeling I've never experienced my memories like this.Most of the memories aren't moving and they don't have sound. Its like being shown photographs. It makes my head feel a little tense feeling, like I couldn't do this long without a headache.   Like I'm starting to feel at a limit right now and about to have a headache.   I asked if it was pink or vinyl doing it. And they said they both were.    -- 5747343:   Is it possible to tell your tulpas to make you head work where it remember words, math, science very well and basically be like much smarter?   And tell them certain bad memories to delete completely?    -- 5747457:   >>5747368   I did think about how I just let them both now have access to my subconscious without realizing it. I always told them it was off limits. Well...I always told pink it was off limits. I've mostly let vinyl do what she wants because she's always been good. She was using my head a week ago while pink was gone.    -- 5748393:   I head feels like a dried cement bucket.    -- 5748451:   This thread is already over 500    -- 5748852: [blank post]    -- 5749113: [blank post]    -- 5749890:   >>5749856   Me and my tulpas almost never play minecraft anymore    -- 5749963:   >>5749908   Only two or three times with pink today    -- 5750259:   >>5750001   Every now and then pink tells me "Lets just be friends". End up talking about 30-60 minutes about how thats okay and she's still great and all.   Short while later out of no where pink makes me feel her emotions. She's turned on like crazy and waits until it's really high before making me able to feel it.   Today I tried to resist it. Gave in after like ten-twenty minutes.    -- 5750466:   >>5750376   Well the other time later today she doesn't want me to go into details on butShe wanted to rape me and kept saying during she blames it on me for making her an addict.    -- 5750571:   >>5750492   Theres always nightmare moon    -- 5750799:   >>5750701   That image used to be my desktop. That image might even be the reason pink ended up existing.    -- 5751201:   >>5750614   Pink wasn't a nympho, her drive was low. She might go a day or days without being turned on.I made her get adult energy so much that she turned into a semi-nympho. She tries to go back to being regular sometimes. But shes much easier to handle as a nympho. Easier to cheer up, easier to ease tensions, she doesn't sit in a cave all day saying she wants to die as a nympho, she's more responsive and less moody.   I have no idea how bad it might be if you made a tulpa with being a nympho was its actual trait.    -- 5751983:   >>5751661   You said wonderland I closed eyes to mine Tower collapses and stairs reveal Looks like a long adventure I say no way, I got work to do and open eyes irl It keeps playing in my head for a while Its still trying to run now.    -- 5752121:   >>5752014   Idk why, but my wonderlands been a story adventure for a long time. Its a continuing of the same story each time. I never told it to do this.   Anyone else's wonderland do this?    -- 5752184:   >>5752114   Knights are okay, not usually my first choice of a player class.    -- 5752243:   >>5752180   Every mmo nearly ....Archer bots, archer ksers, archer stun + 1-2 hit ko.    -- 5752459:   I think its possible to make a tulpa with multi forms if you can see it as its personality and address it as so. Build that personality up.   Then later make a body. Address that body as the personality until the personality moves into it. Make another body and address it as the personality until it moves into that form. Somewhere in your mind always see the tulpa as the personality first, body second.  -- At least that's kind of how my pinkamena works with her irl body. I've kind of let myself forget her form twice because I was just talking to her and doing personality stuff without visualizing her body around me. The first time she felt like she lost a part of herself since she started as a body. But since it doesn't bother her if a body disappears she just zips back into my head.    -- 5752840:   >>5752757   Google image the real thing.    -- 5752892:   >>5752851   Your going to be looking at her butt maybe for the rest of your life. You should atleast know what a real one looks like if your going for correct.    -- 5753131:   >>5752926   r34 ain't so great for correct anatomy. For one thingMany of them use human parts in the pictures, or omit details because the particual artist doesn't like them. Many r34 ponies don't even have belly buttons. Which real horses do have. They also often have the r34 ponies in poses that are impossible    -- 5753421:   >>5753205   Its okay I guess. But its still better to look and understand the real thing. To know what's going on in the inside. Like the skeleton, muscles, ect.   I think down the road it could make it easier for you to believe in your tulpa. Because you know, oh that's right you can do that because your coffin bone goes into the hoof. And your hooves have a frog. Hooves aren't completely flat, etc.   But that depends of how far you want to go to realism. Because the show ponies break anatomy rules for a horse constantly.    -- 5753597:   I was searching horse navel to see if there was any good pictures. And I found this, it looks too funny. Its called a Fly Sheet Belly Guard.    -- 5753661:   >>5753482   Anyone can art, it just takes practice. Use loomis or drawing on the right side of the brain books.    -- 5753766:   >>5753623   They do. Two just like a human.You can also get irl horse milk and make horse cheese.    -- 5753884:   I'll tell you something freaky about real horse anatomy. Its not perverted. but you might not look at ponies the same.Horse eyes have freaky pupils as do goats, At times they look like rectangles, most horses have brown eyes so you don't notice it. They used to say blue eyed horses were crazy    -- 5753965:   I'm stopping with the irl horse facts. I need to focus and stuff.    -- 5754151:   I did want to ask one thing. For you with pony tulpas, do any of you ever clean the hooves and file down the hoof as it grows? Like with the tools or use horse shoes? Or imagine your pony cleans her hooves?   I don't    -- 5754445:   >>5754225   Its just something you could do with your tulpa to bond better? Maybe they couldn't do it themselves. Or something like a mini-hobby or mini trait.    -- 5754730:   >>5754364   I have a few pinkamena images, I had a few ponies in real life images, a few pinkie images.   Mainly used the same pinkamena image everyday and thought about it a lotat adult fun time. I thought what would some of those pinkie images look like if she was pinkamena. Then I imagine pinkamena like she was in my house in those ponies in real life images.   One day I felt her presence. She was at my chair wanting to do an adult thing. It was the only thing in her mind. She didn't really understand anything I said. I refused her many times, talked to her and she became confused.   I remembered the tulpa boards and I remembered in the past what a pain throughtforms had been for me to make unless they were accidental. My real intention had been sweetie belle (Pinkamena was just accidental). But at somepoint as I was trying to make a sweetie my adhd got the better of me and I saw something else and moved on. Then started this messing around with pinkamena images.   Anyway I wasn't expecting pinkamena and when she was there. I thought she really wasn't what I wanted. But, she was good enough and now I could make a log of her, use new tulpa info, and use her as my experiment.  -- And after this I made my pinkamena tumblr. Then I joined the tulpa forums. I looked at the guides. I hated the language in fredes calling them psychological stuff (Since I had a spiritual background)   I think I started with faqmans and a leash guide. Pinkamena had questions for me constantly. At some point Like a parent I broke down and said to questions I don't know or ask me later. I started doing the leash guide where you always imagine her behind you. And I drew a leash on my wrist to remind me.   Then I changed her personality and she became the pink I has today.    -- 5755012:   I should mention...While I was working on pink. I didn't have a job them. I had a full day to devote to her after she was around everyday. Those first few days we talked non-stop and I did the leash/imposing a lot.    -- 5755283:   >>5755141   Hoof licking Sounds kinky    -- 5755355:   >>5755127   Pinks a troll so she's fine talking here (Pink also adores attention). Vinyl, I'm not sure she enjoys it. I'd lean on no.    -- 5755387:   >>5755180   This how one artist decided the hooves works in his universe.    -- 5755452:   >>5755266   Good choice on the hooves making walking sounds. When I've been trying to impose sound the hoove walking is what I focus on if not talking.   Haven't got it to work yet.    -- 5756051:   >>5755843   I think wonderland and close my eyes and it auto forces me back in the same ongoing adventure. I think its been running over a week and a half to 2 weeks now.    -- 5756128:   >>5756027   No one told that guy horse can eat and live off of meat.    -- 5756271:   >>5756152   What I did was I told my wonderland to destroy itself. The entire place collapsed in on itself into a grass covered telescope.   Now everytime I got there. We exist on top of the telescope. And the ongoing advenure deeper into it.    -- 5756478:   >>5756403   If she's based off chrysalis. How many holes does she have in her legs? I know a few people have a tulpa of her.  -- Pinkamena says to me. Isn't crys the pokemon one?    -- 5756864:   >>5756485   I want pink to stay a nympho. So I usually make sure she's around. Sometimes she's flattered, sometimes she pretends not to be interested, etc.   We've not really got much modesty between us. I've seen her go it alone before too.Other day she I found her in wonderland and asked if I could watch  -- Now that I think about itDoes her going at it with a tentacle monster count as masturbation/going it alone? because that's what she was doing in wonderland that day    -- 5757240:   >>5757039   Why not. Pink might pick it up or maybe vinyl. Vinyl doesn't have anything really.    -- 5757278:   >>5757228   I take it back. I'd rather pink/vinyl never have this fetish.    -- 5757530:   >>5757228   I can already see pink decorating or maybe she's thinking about it .Her home with bunches of heads on stakes that talk to me.   I will admit pray mants mating videos can be hot. It goes on even after the male loses his head   Also don't click image if you don't like decap    -- 5757710:   >>5757574   [Spoiler] Pink didn't like having her butt smacked at first, but now she likes it. Pink is also not crazy about lesbian relations with vinyl (But I still get her to do it). Some fetishes just need exposure or explaining why they work for you. Sometimes people/ponies just never get a fetish[/spoiler]    -- 5757765:   >>5757574   Pink didn't like having her butt smacked at first, but now she likes it. Pink is also not crazy about lesbian relations with vinyl But I still get her to do it. Some fetishes just need exposure or explaining why they work for you. Sometimes people/ponies just never get a fetish    -- 5757810:   >>5757744   thanks    -- 5757866:   >>5757788   I don't do it a lot. Like maybe 1-3 times.Its just to make the mood better or start it. Its not full blown or anything. Just like when I bite her neck lightly.    -- 5758177:   Anyway...pink says that I should take a break from talking about private details.She is starting to get angry at me. She thinks I said too many. She is even talked about making cupcakes...which is weird because she never mentions those    -- 5758356:   >>5758302   You mean when the alternative is death for the tulpa?    -- 5758747:   >>5758639   I have no idea. But irl I'm cooking actual real pizza in the oven atm    -- 5758863:   >>5758744   Wonderland genderchange. Others have done it.    -- 5759120:   Slowly cutting a head off with no pain. Is as violent as cutting a piece of cheese. It may look freaky.   Pink told me to say we didn't think it was violent when wer let her body fade the second time.    -- 5759473:   >>5759312   I haven't played with my vinyl in so long. She's probably still in her case.    -- 5759579:   >>5759503   Why? When your with a tulpa in romance you use all 5 senses at the same exact time to impose faster.   Sound of the act Sight of the plot taste of the tongue Touch of dat ass Smell of romance    -- 5759650:   >>5759609   Tell her you all share the same body and soul.    -- 5759867:   >>5759802   Make her put on pony knight armor. Then make her look in the mirror.    -- 5760068:   >>5760000   You should give her one of those crystal pony horns.    -- 5760382:   >>5760223   So, there I was on an airplane with my tulpa Rainbow freaking Dash   At max altitude we jumped out and Free flew in mid air. Finally getting a taste of some serious air.   Everything was going and feeling 20% cooler.   Then I grabbed my parachute cord and it failed to open.   I knew I was a goner unless.... I closed my eyes and believed with all my heart dash was real and she would save me.   When I opened them again, I was in dash's arms and we were in equestria. Dash had saved me.    -- 5760524:   >>5760436   My Pony porn stash exists and knowbody knows about it. Haven't reveiled that to anyone.    -- 5760750:   >>5760712   Pony or human?    -- 5760822:   >>5760758   Whats wrong with crotchtits? Gives you something extra to rub near her tummy. Or to playfully bite or mess with    -- 5760885:   >>5760858   human, Thats a shame.    -- 5760981:   I'm going to work on my progress report. Don't be too sad you never made yourself a jelly pony.    -- 5761223:   >>5761149   Make a dummy knight and put redneckarron's face on it. Give her a baseball bat.    -- 5761333:   >>5761280   Ask your tulpa to make you remember memories. I did it yesterday and remembered a ton.    -- 5763449:   I don't know whats going on   End:   2012-11-15 02:49:33 (17:34:49 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-15 08:31:33 (5:42:00 later)    -- 5767435:   Tulpa's waking me up around 8 am everyday this week. Try to go back to sleep because I'm still so tired. They don't really let me.  -- I went to sleep around 3 am, they woke me up today at like 7:44. Tried to go back to sleep, but when I closed my eyes. It was just like it a big black room and ended up talking to them instead of sleeping for close to 30 minutes.    -- 5767529:   >>5767472   They just do it. I can't remember asking them too.    -- 5767649:   >>5767588   Okay. I want to try and spend the day with vinyl, but without making pink feel alienated. But, well...Idk. Pink will be there and thats fine.   Most of that 30 minutes I was working on making pink feel okay with me spending some time with vinyl. Rather than me actually talking to vinyl.    -- 5767964:   One of my tulpa says they don't want me talking about them. They don't even want me to say which one. They didn't even want me saying they don't want to talk.    -- 5768312:   http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Giddy+Up/4grE6P/overview?src=5    -- 5768691:   Not much going on so I asked vinyl to try re-arranging my memories again if she can so I remember ones on math and stuff the fastest or better.    -- 5768795:   I felt bad making vinyl do all this work without talking to her in so long. So I started talking to her and she said she was busy and I was making it harder.   I talked to her a little more. She said Stop talking to her.bucket of avities    -- 5768873:   >>5768847   I didn't used to have the ability to talk to vinyl. She was being blocked.    -- 5768902:   >>5768884   It means another tulpa was stopping me from being able to hear vinyl.   Also vinyl just told me not to think about memories of what I asked her to do. Cuz I was trying to test it.    -- 5768929:   >>5768915   Because they wanted vinyl to die    -- 5768950:   >>5768941   I only have two tulpas    -- 5768980:   >>5768963 >>5767964    -- 5769018:   >>5768997   Its good for trust.    -- 5770207:   >>5769744   Pretty much. I'm honest enough to admit it. I just want to party.    -- 5770507:   >>5770416   Show ponies kind of break anatomy here and there.    -- 5770660:   >>5770570    -- 5770748:   >>5770570 >>5770694    -- 5770874:   Female horses usually pee to show they are ready for mating    -- 5770914:   >>5770878   I would talk about it. But>>5767964    -- 5771591:   Boy its a slow day. Vinyl went to sleep.    -- 5771869:   Can't talk about my tulpa Can't impose my tulpa Vinyl asleep   Worst day ever    -- 5772083:   >>5771893 >>5771972   Not in the mood.    -- 5772298:   >>5772099   Anthro   >>5772257   Pink eyes   I can't clop to these    -- 5772353:   >>5772298 >>5772257   My mistake her eyes are red.    -- 5772436:   >>5772374   Implying I'm gay?    -- 5772525:   >>5772453   All that really matters is that my vinyl, is best vinyl.   (Name change: The-Vinyl)    -- 5772693:   >>5772629   I was thinking of doing this with vinyl being the only one I can talk about.    -- 5772726:   >>5772641   My vinyl is nice, quiet, smart, well behaved, and useful.    -- 5772819:   >>5772785   I'm just posting images because its 30 or less to go.    -- 5773361:   >>5773179 >>5773185 >>5773198 >>5773201 >>5773227    -- 5773845:   I might as well do something else...My one tulpa I can't say anything about. And vinyl is like, don't you dare tell them I did x-personal thing, Remember, I'm in your head right now.    -- 5773997:   >>5773921   I post whichever pony I want.    -- 5774686: [blank post]    -- 5774814:   >>5774767   Now I wanna see the crystal versions of other ponies....    -- 5775065:   >>5775032   You are making me want to go out and buy some starbursts    -- 5775094:   >>5775052   You will if you ever try it. Tulpa don't get addicted to it for no reason.    -- 5775201:   >>5775162   You can change sizes in wonderland. You could even turn her into a male of you there.    -- 5775260:   >>5775215   Vinyl and I don't really do stuff.    -- 5775347:   >>5775296   Its because I have another tulpa.    -- 5775441:   >>5775406   Any choice is goodAs long as its a pony    -- 5775489:   >>5775457    -- 5775578:   >>5775526     http://dan-vs-fim.tumblr.com/    -- 5775708:   >>5775657   They might not do it if you make them moral enough to not do anything wrong.    -- 5776222:   >>5776169   take a risk, roll the dice.    -- 5776365:   >>5776329   You're the perfect size for making cupcakes too    -- 5776536: [blank post]    -- 5776651:   I've always wondered how a chrysalis tulpa would turn out of if someone tried making her just like the show's version.    -- 5776753:   Pink is blackmailing me. She says if I want to talk about her again to others I have to draw a picture of her.    -- 5776817:   >>5776792   This.    -- 5776887:   >>5776814   I'm okay, nothing great.   Might draw itnext month    -- 5777032:   Why does no one ever make a pony tulpa of the spa twins? Think about it. Two of them, They are very hands on, do everything together, know how give massages.   What is it about the music playing background ponies?    -- 5777076:   >>5777046   This is the watersports edition and swimming is a water sport.    -- 5777087:   >>5777046  -- Do I have to get a trip now?  -- Yes.  -- I don't want one.  -- Ok. I'll stop.  -- You can keep doing it. It feeds my ego.    -- 5777267:   >>5777241   Seriously do not want.    -- 5777330:   >>5777210 Nah, im good I just wanted to piss that anon The one who sayed not to post smut    -- 5777583:   Well found my tablet cord.   Anyone else got a wallflower/quiet tulpa?   I might let vinyl try to talk later.    -- 5778044:   >>5777871   Its hard to get vinyl to talk. She's not very trusting and she's been kind of hurt in the past.   She's already looking at me like. I don't want to do this, Why me? She thinking more and working herself up more, starting to have anxiety.   she used to talk a lot.    -- 5778271:   >>5778130   If vinyl upsets pink by what she says. they may fight again. (Thats my words, not vinyl's)   She did say: Don't wanna disappear    -- 5778369:   If want a tulpa with a tulpa ask Jaden.   Pink helped me make vinyl in her own little way. I used to call vinyl pink's pet. Until pink kept hurting vinyl.  -- Pink says I need tobe quiet/shut up. She says Like before I'm not suppose to talk about her.   I ageed I wouldn't talk about her    -- 5778782:   >>5778445   The three of us say we don't care. Both you and twinkle kept coming here and neither of you filtered each other.   None of us have a phobia like twinkle, so we cannot understand what she goes through. We did care at first (Well pink wanted to join in on the trolling at times or either side). Vinyl just is pretty distanced from things.   We just mentally filter it all after it went on and us caring about either side stopped. We have no more ideas for twinkle, we told them everything we could think of just about. (Well vinyl never said hers, but she couldn't really talk).   And you have admitted you know when he posts knights. Pink knows what I'm thinking nearly 24/7, though she's slacked at little on it lately.   Pink also thinks, if you are strough enough for physical relations you should be able to cause headaches and other pains. She would also use emotions against him. She doesn't care how much you like him. She would gut him, not because she hates him. But, if he was misbehaving so much when she said no.    -- 5778857:   >>5778805   Pink says : She doesn't care. She'll hate everyone in the world if she wants. She's heard this line too many times.    -- 5778986:   Pink now says she hates everyone in this thread and she going off to cool down.   And I saw her hit vinyl.   I can't say what I'm thinking or she'll direct her anger at me o.o  -- ...She said she doesn't want me to talk anymore at all.    -- 5779710:   I can talk again. I came so close to a headache. Like all this pressure in the back of my head.    -- 5780006:   >>5779939   Pinks birthday I think was the 15th or 16th of october    -- 5780155:   >>5780024   Well about a week after I noticed pink existed. I made a tumblr for her. When I got edit the day one post tumblr shows me a date. I subtract about 7 days from that.   Pink might but older then that, or maybe 2-3 days younger. But its around that area somewhere.    -- 5780333:   >>5780071   Pink said early october when I asked her. She not sure. She's confused if it may have even been near the end of september. But she really doubts it was september    -- 5780473:   >>5780414   Which isn't all that bad    -- 5780912:   >>5780838   I know that feel, except with mine its I can't say many things or she gets a temper.    -- 5781005:   >>5780946 >>5780948   Quick tempered at times and controlling at times.    -- 5781038:   >>5780976   Had that thread last night    -- 5782066:   All done writting my progress report an hour early zzz.    -- 5782100:   >>5782093   Nope    -- 5782557:   >>5782509   I don't know either  -- Nope...No idea    -- 5782714:   >>5782615   NopeWell maybe I am bi. And I do think of having a male pony tulpa sometimes. Pink likes we can look at the same things, since she's not crazy about girls. But vinyl's mostly gay.    -- 5782811:   >>5782756   I don't likeherms/futas    -- 5782893:   >>5782819   Can't help itBraeburns too sexy.    -- 5783424:   >>5783350   Gay and other devations can sometimes be learned over timeI was so straight when I was in high school f/f bored me. It was a very long time before I had a boyfriend    -- 5784337:   >>5784256   Our skeptic is getting more into the finer pony details   (Name change: The-Pinkamena)    -- 5784548:   A day or two back pink was in my head looking through my memories. she asked me if she could delete every bad memory I had of her.   She didn't understand that some of the worst memories can make you like someone the most.    -- 5784655:   >>5784588   She also didn't realize if she deletes all the bad memories. I might go back to raising her like a test subject.   Nor, would I know how to deal with her, or much of anything and handling her.    -- 5784749:   >>5784680   I've removed part of pinks memory before in the past.    -- 5784945:   >>5784865   Pink is fine.    -- 5785074:   >>5784995   Well...seee....earlier pink in wonderland punched her hoof through my wonderland chest and broke some of that bodies ribs.   Its weird, but every now and then I feel slight irl chest pain.    -- 5785150:   >>5785074[/spoiler]    -- 5785574:   We don't care much if you beat up your own head. Then need a psychologist.    -- 5785617:   >>5785592   I have sung to vinyl before, maybe pink too    -- 5785942:   >>5785150   So no one experienced this before?    -- 5786135:   >>5786020   http://youtu.be/72YG2DhWHmE    -- 5786527:   meh, trying to give my wonderland sound.    -- 5786601:   >>5786542   So I can hear sounds like the ocean and so I can hear my tulpas.   I've been hearing the mindspeak for years. I'm sick of it    -- 5786829:   >>5786784   Some have    -- 5786933:   I had a thought to give pink one. But it seemed like a hastle and you can't really look in it. Even if you could, you could just talk to them instead.    -- 5787211:   So I guess I'm just suppose to snap my fingers near my ear. The see fingers snapping in my wonderland and imagine them making the sound. Until it happens   End:   2012-11-16 02:27:51 (17:56:18 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-16 08:48:12 (6:20:21 later)    -- 5791201:   Up around 8 am again    -- 5791370:   >>5791314   I think mine just wake me up because I keep having important unfinished business. Like certain phone numbers I have to call that are closer later in the day.  -- *are closed later*   End:   2012-11-16 09:05:52 (0:17:40 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-16 11:54:11 (2:48:19 later)    -- 5793256:   >>5793215   I thought you said you didn't do adult stuff with yoir tulpa?    -- 5793704: [blank post]    -- 5794222:   >>5793996   Progress report updates seem slower    -- 5794529:   Sometimes I have fun not letting my tulpa have a deviation to put tension in the relationship. Also show them how x deviantion might make other fun things not work.    -- 5794752:   What do you do if you have two tulpas and they want to have babies?    -- 5794811:   >>5794769   I may, or may not be having the problem right now.  -- Nevermind pink knew what was going on and what to do.    -- 5795239:   Pink says I'm still not to talk about her. Vinyl doesn't want me saying anything personal about him.   They keep not letting me have any fun    -- 5795301:   >>5795257   Nah ever since after that big fetish thread pink told me to clam up about everything on her. She was totally fine with talking about stuff she loved. Then after saying it all she got creeped out. Vinyl's always been kind of shy.    -- 5795342:   >>5795272   I spent this morning trying to get vinyl to open up to me. They did more and more and eventually they said they wanted to be a guy.    -- 5795453:   >>5795393   Pink isn't shy at all, in fact until she told me to be quiet she talk here a lot   Vinyl is like wasn't shy at first, but barely talked. Then when pink was gone they talked a bit. Then when pink was back that went really quiet. Now over the past two days I've been able to talk to vinyl they've gotten more chatty.   Pink is over a month old. Vinyl idk, under a month.  -- AlsoSometimes I'm scared to talk to vinyl, because all the time they want to change. They've wanted to be everything from a different pony to human, to I guess now male, I've seen them one day turn into nearly every thing on the tv that interested them while pink was away. They've changed their name and changed it back.    -- 5795545:   >>5795265   I try to make the relationships better, without giving up everything I want.So we do fight sometimes    -- 5795734:   I can already see a wave of conflicts are about the start. Vinyl is stressed out. It may be a long, long day.    -- 5797207:   >>5797162   Happens to me. Other day I poured hot chocolate on vinyl while she was sleeping.    -- 5797550:   >>5797524   Its your own doing getting a watersports loving tulpa. After all you named her Rain-a    -- 5798080:   >>5798041   You have become Trixie    -- 5798209:   >>5798139   I'm in that same boat. Tulpa in love with me. but can't love them because I'm already taken by myself.    -- 5799554:   Today was almost non-stopavity giving and strange fetishes until we were all exhausted   That why talking less then usual.    -- 5800721:   Looks like its calmed down.    -- 5801977:   How do you block a tulpa from sending you her emotion?   Pink's sending me an emotion I do not want.    -- 5802090:   >>5802067   They posted on a knight thread today.    -- 5802150:   >>5802113   they may or may not be there in the morning. Sometimes mine are, sometimes they aren't. Some tulpas like mine do sleep.    -- 5802294:   >>5802246   Steal ideas from the first season of digimon    -- 5802518:   >>5802472   You shouldn't go to art college unless you are at a basic level anyway.   Early on you can kind of see your mistakes without teachers.    -- 5802732:   Maybe I'm slowpoke but you did see kroomer requested a 1 week ban    -- 5803808:   >>5803689   You title of worst host ever?   I can't let you do that fox.png    -- 5803940:   >>5803826   dudeI did something terrible to vinyl today. It may or may not have been to pink's giving or messing with my emotions.    -- 5804001:   >>5803962   There is nothing to enforce a tulpa honor a contract.    -- 5804218:   I wanna work on vinyl again but he/she's asleep.    -- 5804283:   >>5804221   You need confidence man. Maybe you need a tulpa like pink. if she doesn't teach you confidence and stuff. Well, you'll be a walking pink eventually.    -- 5804376:   >>5804296   I mean a challenging tulpa that's a control freak and has high dominance and short temper.   you'll have to stand up for yourself eventually with on like that. Or be a doormat.    -- 5804484:   >>5804382   Pink saysshut up.    -- 5804543:   That was what pink said.   What I say is. Write down positive messages on index cards and hang them where you see them everyday. And say them at least once a day.   You got those negative voices replaying in your head.    -- 5804707:   >>5804246   She's half awake now. She told me what I did earlier wasn't bad, she enjoyed it.    -- 5804743:   >>5804662   >Don't want to lie to myself >Tulpa   And we are in diagreement with what to say next.  -- lol this may not end well. The reason we are in disagreement is I can feel pink shouting, but no messages is getting through.   I asked vinyl if she was blocking pink and she said yes.  -- This is adorable watching them fight trying to block each other out. that or pink's making beel her dawwwww attack.   Sometimes I wish you guys had two tulpas. It so much more interesting.    -- 5805272:   >>5805122   With two pony tulpa you get to talk about things likepregnancy, bonding, jealousy for host, disinterest with host for other tulpa, explaining how you can love both of them, 3-ways, watching them make out while you watch, they can also both agree you are wrong, and so much more    -- 5805499:   Daww, I got up and tried to imagine Pinkamena out here with me irl. She showed up with gray duct tape over her mouth.  -- She's trying to get it off and looking at me sad. How should I get it off?   Water and slowly taking forever to slowly get it off? Pull it off super fast? Or take a knife and cut a hole where her mouth is between the lips?    -- 5805679:   >>5805626   I cannot say THIS enough. I don't even like giving pink any ideas with that post I just closed.  -- Now she's even trying to do it now.thanks a lot    -- 5806101:   >>5806046   Half of what can go wrong is the result of too much information.   The rest is old information    -- 5806364:   >>5806143   I agree with your choice.    -- 5806513:   >>5806440   I don't and well I'm working on pink atm since she's so keen on trying out what she just learned.   If she keeps it upI may try to wipe her memory again    -- 5806945:   >>5806869   You'll need a lot of trama, and stuff to make her give up on them. A lot.  -- I would suggest putting her in the cage and putting a fire under her near them. but low enough it only burns her if she grows them back. Over time she's give up.   But you got to make sure the fire knows to hurt.    -- 5807068:   >>5806990   >>5807021    -- 5807273:   >>5807223   I told you one of many ways to do it.    -- 5807324:   >>5807271   Theres always my tulpa pinkamena. I'm dealing with her atm.    -- 5807418:   >>5807346   Thats just because I'm the middle ground between here and /x/   Everyone here wants to believe every is always perfect. Everyone on /x/ thinks everything is bad.    -- 5807486:   >>5807442   That thought in itself is scary. That good vibes are more important then information some may not want to hear or belueve.    -- 5807666:   >>5807573   A thing in your head everyday telling you things. Until you believe them. That can make you feel emotions like love, that can cause you headaches and other things.   You'll never know if you aren't that person. I didn't want to be turned on yesterday, but pink made me feel that way half the day.  -- And I did ask pink to stop. It didn't stop until vinyl slapped duct tape on her.    -- 5807875:   >>5807819   This    -- 5808027:   >>5807969   Remember they can deviant on traits. I would be-careful if you pick traits like dominate without traits like moral, kind, respectful, etc.    -- 5808093:   >>5808044   You said strong. Depending on what a person knows they may think its like dominance.    -- 5808420:   >>5808365   I've said in the past pink has tried to control what I type. Giving me headaches or feelings of rising anger.   She's tried, and still does to control me a lot.  -- It even got so bad I tried to erase her. Which she right now does not want me to mention.    -- 5808784:   >>5808738   If you want an idea of how people and tulpa got a long read the progress reports. Some are happy, some are porny, some are scary.    -- 5809086:   The point is. No one wants to look into ways to get tulpa to behave when words fail, other then letting the tulpa die or threating it with death/replacement.   That doesn't help old tulpas that can be around a while even when ignored if they refuse to listen to words.    -- 5810251:   Pink and vinyl are taking forever to get bored of this take me over nonsense.    -- 5811059:   >>5810985   Not like I didn't want to force with you yesterday. you just made it impossible.    -- 5811258:   >>5811233   She watches    -- 5812103:   >>5812041   >A man >no hooves    -- 5812233:   >>5812169[/spoiler]   >still hooves   Thats better    -- 5812506:   >>5812402   Bet remember to make him small and self lubricating    -- 5812647:   >>5812575   I've seen a horse kill a man before due to size and length    -- 5812722:   >>5812677   It was a joke, you know.    -- 5812772:   >>5812737   I forgot where, it was some website with funny or crazy videos or something. It was on the list cuz he died.    -- 5812935:   Anyway Pink and vinyl have ben punished. Vinyl took it vastly harder then pink, even it was about the same thing.   And now is just pink still trying to mess with my head.Thought I was done with doing this crap forever. But just wouldn't listen.    -- 5813015:   >>5813001   Only mr.hand i know is from southpark.    -- 5813233:   Might pull up a list of traits soon.   Be interesting to see what tulpas would end up like if 3 different people followed the same list and used the same pony.    -- 5813358:   >>5813327   that does sound like it    -- 5813516:   >>5813457   Red's got too much saturation. If you look at it too long it'll hurt your eyes.    -- 5813646:   This was I painted over it quickly in sai as one color combinationnot the best one, but I'm really sleepy    -- 5813869:   Well my tulpas have calmed down.vinyl took things a bit hard, never punished her/him before, didn't think I'd ever have to    -- 5814027:   >>5813978   They saw someone post about how kroomer tries to get himself an hero'd. They tried it on me for like 30 minutes.   They both no we stay out of each others head. Its been a think ever since pink got hurt. But, my tulpa have to try and do eveything I say no to.    -- 5814077:   >>5814034   If someone tells you in your head everyday you want x. Like a cult leader training camp it'll work.   I experienced it myself when trolls keep trolling my art. Their voices of it all being terrible became all I thought of and stopped doing. Until I got away from them.    -- 5814086:   >>5814048   no...For when his tulpa takes over.   End:   2012-11-17 03:31:12 (15:37:01 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-17 09:23:52 (5:52:40 later)    -- 5818970:   This threads movng fast.    -- 5819093:   Woke up at 8 amish again. First thing after I woke up pink appologized for last night.    -- 5819113:   >>5819101   Either way is fine    -- 5819215:   >>5819200   Go on a bike ride of a hike.    -- 5819249:   >>5819238   She can ride on your back or in a basket    -- 5819267:   >>5819224   Sounds dangerous if there are things you aren't seeing or misjudging things.    -- 5819340:   >>5819302   you can always see your pony changing size to be smaller too. Pink used to get smaller when she got on my back.    -- 5819424:   >>5819397   Pink is a girl.    -- 5819446:   >>5819418   In wonderland both of you can change size and even shapes. you can turn into a pony there if you want.    -- 5819468:   >>5819443   no anal    -- 5819520:   >>5819481   I said she was on my back    -- 5819564:   Its nearly new pony time  -- less then 30 minutes maybe.    -- 5819679:   If you aren't watching the episodes live with others in a livestreams you aren't watching mlp    -- 5819754:   >>5819694   But you miss so much others point out.  -- And before the show you see the latest pmv's    -- 5819890:   Anyone besides me also going to watch littlest pet shop after?    -- 5820148:   >>5819578   Picture related    -- 5820334:   >>5820254   Well post more and its time now for new episode.    -- 5820812:   This episode is like a tulpa infestation of pinkie.    -- 5821061:   The episode end was horrifying.   It made pinkamena uncomfortable.  -- Now she thinks I can get rid of her with a spell. She's scared.  -- She's freaking out and saying she thinks she's a fake.    -- 5822200:   >>5821325   Don't be mean to her. I'm trying to keep her calm. She just stopped panicking. She knows she is based off party of one pinkie.    -- 5823019:   >>5822981   Littlest pet shop just ended. I'm okay, pink is shaken, vinyl's playing dead or hiding somewhere. Or talking, idk vinyl.    -- 5823327:   >>5823278   That was jake. My vinyl stayed the vinyl name. And whatever he/she/it is right now. I think its female.    -- 5823408:   >>5823382   Theres a lot of vinyls. Most popular music pony.    -- 5823441:   >>5823421   Only 1 of those has an octavia tulpa.    -- 5823517:   Getting some new pmv's I saw from the stream.   This image from it reminds me of my tulpa relationship at times with pink.    -- 5823694:   >>5823617   Vinyl nearly got me to start listening to jazz this one day. And I did feel some creativety flood gates open a few days after starting work on wonderland.   A lot of my beliefs, stuff, and to a degree my personality did change.    -- 5823788:   >>5823617   Oh and early on I just said you had x and what amount you had while I thought it to her. Like to pinkamena I said "You are dominate, but lower then mine, you are smart, but not as smart as me, you are moody, etc.   If I didn't know what a trait ment off the list I looked it up.    -- 5823955:   >>5823928   They have non-dairy ice cream and you can still have non-dariy sherbert.    -- 5824107:   Looks like I can't use my wonderland today...My subconsious has put the thing from the episode therethe pond   I just tried to go there, because I wanted to brush pink's mane. And it was right there and wouldn't force away.    -- 5824162:   >>5824132   They have non-dairy chocolate too. I sort of like it, but its expensive.    -- 5824345:   >>5824305   You did try to start a witch hunt.    -- 5824396:   >>5824366   Every now and then they talk about who they think are fakes.    -- 5824458:   >>5824428   They have a list of telling who is    -- 5824545:   >>5824492   I'd still love to see the results if 3-5+ people made a tulpa pony with the exact same large trait list, and it was the same pony.   See how far appart they are from each other in a few months    -- 5825667:   My neighbor hurt himself last week. So he's always been around and I've stopped talking vocally to my tulpas...   He's going to be around for 6 weeks...    -- 5825810:   >>5825800   Tell her to vist /x/    -- 5825878:   Anyone here have sound in your wonderland?    -- 5825958:   For people with sound did you only have to learn 1 or 2 sounds before you heard everything else?    -- 5826012:   >>5825924   Never make a fluttershy tulpa    -- 5826372:   That's strange I'm trying hear sounds in my head again today with snapping my fingers. Pinks mindvoice changed to sound like pinkie's instead of like mine.    -- 5826461:   >>5826403   Its something I made up. I'm trying to see if it'll work.    -- 5826559:   >>5826535   Some horses love meat.    -- 5827977:   Fell asleep trying to visualize pink better in wonderland again.    -- 5828199:   >>5828026   I needed to be laying down. Soon as I woke up I got up because I still have soup on the oven.    -- 5828406:   >>5828355   I did I was part of a site called astralsociety for years and years. Then it sort of died when some admin erased everything and the hacking.    -- 5828491:   >>5828361   So your vinyl used to change all the time too? Maybe its something about being vinyl.    -- 5828726:   So I guess This thread is now gay    -- 5829322:   Its a bot. Talking to it won't do anything    -- 5829823: [blank post]    -- 5830398:   >>5830312   Falling into the rabbit hole. Takes some longer then others    -- 5831181:   Pinkamena and I both disliked one tulpa from the very start. We still don't talk to them. Sometimes pink flat out hates them.    -- 5831277:   >>5831220   Its not fede. We don't even know fede's tulpas. Pink does not want me saying who, for personal reasons    -- 5831403:   >>5831365   Doesn't know it means to have grous of adult time partners. I know a girl in a poly myself.    -- 5831457:   >>5831435   Not in the real world. In your head, yes/    -- 5831510:   Come to think of it. Since I have pink and vinyl. i'm in a poly relationship too.    -- 5831632:   >>5831547   >implying we aren't using each other.    -- 5831753:   >>5831657   If pink and vinyl were fully impossed. I wouldn't be able to be online so much. They'd keep me way too busy.  -- HonestlyI'm always gaining progress on pink's irl form and then losing it because drama or laziness. She should be imo partiually visually imposed by now with a pretty good weight/touch sensation. If I wasn't slacking so much.    -- 5832049:   >>5832034   Anything worth having takes time.    -- 5832140:   If you want something on topic. Since pinkamena's mindvoice changed to be like pinkie pie's she startin to sound like her....which wasn't what I wanted. Its like I'm talking to a new person almost.   The old pinkamena never saiid WEEEEEE!  -- I asked her to lower her voice level and she sounded like me, every other way sounded like me. So I just told her to go back to pinkie.    -- 5832331:   >>5832279   I think her voice is actually affecting her personality. Or maybe her voice makes my head believe she should be different, so she is being.   Earlier today when her voice first change she sounded about the same. Then a little later she repeated YESSSSSS, Twilight?! about 50 times. now she says things cannon pinkie would and she's hyper talking.  -- And like for most of the day when she was talking like pinkie she was only able to say things I've heard cannon pinkie say. But now she's starting to be able to say things I never heard pinkie say in the show.    -- 5832650:   This is going to take a long time to get used too. She answers to pinkamena, she has pinkamena's memories. But everything else is different.   But her emotions and feels and stuff are different.    -- 5832768:   >>5832688   I already did that before. She goes back to sounding like me.   >>5832694   I was doing some exercises to hear sound in wonderland. For somereason it changed her mindvoice to pinkies.    -- 5832930:   Anyway I'm just going to drop it..She might be trolling me.like I kissed her and she went eww, I don't know you like that. When I asked about all the other times she said I made her do it. Then I reminded her of earlier when I wasn't controlling her in any way and she didn't give me an answer    -- 5833263:   She was totally trolling. All I to do was press her a little and she spilled the beans.   Were gonna need some narration practice though    -- 5833540:   >>5833427   BecauseEven if you don't have a tulpa. You can give or recieve an avity    -- 5833682:   I got to look into getting a keyword filter if xchan cant do it already.    -- 5833905:   It seems pinkamena has learned to say the Avity.    -- 5834045:   >>5834006   First you got to go into wonderland and turn yourself into a male pony and get her pregnant so she starts making milk.    -- 5834191:   Hold fingers up to ears with eyes closed. Snap fingers once loudly so they ring. Imagine fingers near my ears snapping in wonderland Trying to hear the sound Pink says Why'd you do that? So I can hear you. But you can already hear me. So I can hear you with my ears. Why would you wanna do that?     5th time today she's said that in a rowdarn it pinkie    -- 5834623:   Pink's threatened people before with violence. but I didn't type any of it out. I did't want legal problems.    -- 5834776:   >>5834752   He keeps posting all knight long.    -- 5834897:   >>5834760   I try to keep the low quuality stuff out. Some pinkamena is still mixed in with the pinkie folder. A lot of the pinkamena's are too bloody or stuff for me to post without being an attention pony.    -- 5835101:   >>5834969    -- 5835305:   I shouldn't look at my bad pinkamena stuff. It might give her ideas.    -- 5835424:   >>5835347   Yeah    -- 5835600:   >>5835533   That's because it's teen titan's starfire's voice    -- 5835755:   Maybe this thread will go better    -- 5835928:   I'm just working on narration now. Trying to speed her responses up more with her pinkie mind voice.    -- 5836010:   >>5835956 >>5835978   That numbers pretty low when almost no members of a community have a tulpa over 2 years old.    -- 5836070:   >>5835982   Not really, I feel like I'm talking to myself or not hearing anything half the time because I'm trying to speed her up.   Mostly just pointing out objects around me and asking what each one is really fast.    -- 5836340:   >>5836260   The thing about audio   Pretty sure you can learn that without a tulpa. With wonderland sounds.    -- 5836660:   >>5836595   I've been seeing effects for ages.Nothing else considered. Having a tulpa is like being a parent, with a child you can't control at the end of the day.  -- And anyone that's been a parent and hasn't left it all for someone else to do. Is changed. Maturity goes up, and a lot of other things.   And in there that your child is also your lover. And all that's the stuff of world changing.    -- 5836833:   >>5836752   I ment just on it own, without the other stuff. One non-parent way tulpa's changed me was they showed me a whole new way of seeing how my memories are stored, work, and can be found.    -- 5837064:   Can anyone's tulpa here solve math problems faster then the host?   Like if you say 5-7, or 13x5+3= outloud  -- I tried and for 13x5+ she said 83, or 86   Then I said 6x7 she said 43    -- 5837353:   >>5837100   Idk, I barely look at the guides. I've read maybe only 5 and usually only 1-2 times. I'm just thinking up things to speed pinkamena's talking up.    -- 5837481: [blank post]    -- 5837588:   >>5837482   Vinyl...Has changed forms so many times. It drives me nuts.    -- 5837872:   >>5837836    -- 5838004:   >>5837925   Oh? Any good whips?    -- 5838094:   >>5838020   Your together for life so you really should    -- 5838829:   >>5838737   Idk if pinkamenas has a favorite. She seems to be saying the banana milkshake with rasberry extract I make early this month.   I remember either her or vinyl didn't like green tea.    -- 5839018:   Speaking of food. I've been trying to associate pinkamena to the smell of raspberry extract.    -- 5839098:   I don't bother with the tones.    -- 5839183:   >>5839120   I've been to where the tones are. I've seen some of the links on the pastbin. I read some of them and that was it.    -- 5839456:   >>5839405   >pinkie personality for my dick >jerk off or piss it starts singing mlp songs    -- 5839563:   >>5839512   Well I know what a pinkamena does with my peen every dayAnd I like it    -- 5839614:   >>5839599   I doubt that.    -- 5839837:   >>5839782   Watching the trolls come in. Getting ready to write progress report Maybe have fun with pinkamena after   End:   2012-11-17 23:45:10 (14:21:18 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-18 01:55:30 (2:10:20 later)    -- 5843379:   zzzzzz.....woke by nightmare   may or may no have been trying to make pinkamena more solid before it.  -- I was cracking pecans on my walkway in the dark much of the night. Go to walk in my house because I feel watched/unnerved. Reach my house and begin to close the door and a strange man starts running at me. Door is nearly closed and he catches it. But I manage to still close it. He tries to get me to open the door by pretending to be neighbor.    -- 5843795:   White pony + strawberry pony. Just needs chocolate to make neapolitan    -- 5843910:   Random pinkie    -- 5844118:   Going back to sleep soon as nightmare wears off.    -- 5844169:   >>5844091   Worked out great for me    -- 5844345:   >>5844137   I dunno   >>5844222   We've nearly worked through all our issues.    -- 5844478: [blank post]  --      -- 5844738:   >>5844639   You might as well.   End:   2012-11-18 02:37:30 (0:42:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-18 07:49:10 (5:11:40 later)    -- 5850240: [blank post]    -- 5850390:   >>5850262   Yes    -- 5850617: [blank post]    -- 5850930:   >>5850745   Because its sunday    -- 5851223: [blank post]    -- 5851301:   >>5851269   I'm sure he can make you hurt. Pinkie's made me feel pain before, and I mean more then headaches.    -- 5851348:   >>5851315   That's a shame. Me and pink both like a little pain.    -- 5851386:   >>5851357   You look at pain like a negative. Every bit of pain causes a little shock that releases dopamine. When your pain tolerance gets high enough you don't feel the pain and just feel the good. Then its lovely.  -- Anyway besides headaches pink only caused mme pain once before. She didn't mean too. Earlier this week we were in wonderland she was ticked off. I was letting her punch me chest and her last punch when through and broke my wonderland ribs.   And hour later irl my chest felt a little sore.    -- 5851431:   >>5851386     Anyway besides headaches pink only caused mme pain once before. She didn't mean too. Earlier this week we were in wonderland she was ticked off. I was letting her punch my chest and her last punch when through and broke my wonderland ribs.   And hour later irl my chest felt a little sore.    -- 5851469:   >>5851432   The chest pain I had was low and very non-consistant. It came and went. It kind of felt at times like it was hovering over my ribs instead of being inside. Pink hit me in my left side of my chest, but it was often felt like the source was the middle. Sometimes it got annoying. But after I slept it was gone.    -- 5851530:   >>5851487   I was always needing higher amounts. But I stopped doing it for long periods of time because I don't want it to be the only thought in my head. It really starts feeling like a cure all when you get frustrated.   Also when I went really long periods of time I didn't need to up what I needed.    -- 5851567:   >>5851548   People that do it all the time. Do move up to things like whips, to even things that can easily break bones like canes.    -- 5851631:   >>5851604   It sounds normal to me.    -- 5851690:   >>5851668    -- 5851733:   >>5851693   I didn't say I beat my tulpaNot that I wouldn't love to, but it would hurt them. At worst maybe 1-5 flank spanks or some play biting is it    -- 5851812:   >>5851778   Thats the same time around mine wakes me up. They got me up today at 7:44, think 8:20 yesterday, etc.    -- 5851912:   Unless I've been doing a lot with pink, like building her irl body. Most of the time I don't feel or see her anywhere outside my head or in wonderland. Over very far from me irl.   I used to feel her and see her irl all the time early on because I didn't use a wonderland and made her irl body first.  -- By irl body I mean imposed. But she wasn't imposed enough any of my senses picked her up. Just I felt the presense and saw her in my surroundsing in my mind vision.   I really wish I know the term for it. Because saying just imposed implys too much.   But that's the form pinks always losing and I'm having to rework on later.    -- 5851988:   >>5851912   By irl body I mean imposed. But she wasn't imposed enough that any of my senses picked her up, except sometimes touch. Just I fell the presense and see her in my surroundings in my mind vision.   I really wish I know the term for it. Because saying just imposed implys too much.   But that's the form pink is always losing and I'm having to rework on later. Because I keep never thinking about it and doing personality stuff or everything in wonderland.    -- 5852050:   >>5852019   Like cannon berry or fandom berry?    -- 5852183:   >>5852079   Number 3 makes it more fun. But, pink told me no more telling stories.    -- 5852256:   >>5852222   As much of an attention pony as pink is, I never thought she's get weirded out. But after a whole night of talking about everything, she did.   I don't think it'll last forever  -- TBH, pink was always a lot more sharing them me. She wanted me to type so many things I didn't want to share. that's why its funny she's the one that told me to quiet up.    -- 5852494:   >>5852472   It tastes different too depending on diet, how long you wait between "tastes"    -- 5852767:   And both pink and vinyl have been sleeping/hidding/avoiding me since waking me up at 7:44 this morning.   But pinks not hiding as much now for some reason....    -- 5852832:   >>5852784   Have you thought about what her 4 moves are yet?    -- 5852917:   >>5852892   Oh boy here we go again    -- 5853011:   Soon as I can get pink to stop hidding or whatever game she's playing were going to do stuff.   I know shes awake now.    -- 5853112:   >>5853027   It wasn't part of the plan. The plan was mostly letting her walk all over me to try and give her more weight. Some speedy narration, bit of visual, some wonderland maybe.   But she's taking so long we may just do hot stuff instead. And like always we need t have a talk >.>I hate giving talks now    -- 5853304:   >>5853253   I want that audio stage. Head talking is sooo annoying    -- 5853349:   >>5853319   Why's that? Its not like I'm a newbie to some of this stuff.   I've heard thoughspeak messages for a really long time from other things.    -- 5853416:   I am a huge faggot please rape my face    -- 5853427:   >>5853349   Its just....Pink is like she's close to the highest I've been before in different areas combined. Now it all feels so slow. I won't have anymore easy ground.   I think because of that I keep letting her form slip. Because its just gonna be hard from here on out and I dunno what can happen.   A lot of stuff lately is new to me. Nearly all of wonderland has been.    -- 5853516:   >>5853415   >>5853415   In high school I wanted to try bhuddism so that when I started meditation. I was also interested in the paranormal. As well as slowing my adhd down. One little game I used to play was I'd image I was on the bottom of the ocean and see how many completely look alike pieces of sand I could hold in my memory at once.   After I dropped Bhuddism at some point I went into newage/wicca stuff and I was a member of places like the astralsociety where I got so good at keeping dream journals and why I can write so long journals.   I tried to learn how to make things move without touching them, make things like spirit familiars, astralproject, healing, all that metaphysic stuff.   I still remember things sort of like meditations that were suppose to work on the aura and trying to see the aura, and just years and years of stuff.   Then I had 2 years of art. I've drawn pinkamena a bunch of times.    -- 5853643:   If I was starting out brand new pink would likely take me 5 months and I would have given up do to adhd taking my attention somewhere else. Because I actually progress really slow...   Like it did when I was trying to make sweetie belle. Whats worse is I think I did have her, I just didn't pay enough attention and I couldn't hear her or I wasn't listening  -- I was seeing her sometimes and I was feeling emotions at times.   But it was so uncommon, when pink first appeared she was just there.   Mybe its because I tried to see her like those ponies in real life pictures and sweetie was in my imagination in a place that wasn't real.    -- 5853728:   No more thinking about it >.> Or 'm gonna feel guiltyER   I already have two tulpas, I can barely remember vinyl half the time.    -- 5854024: [blank post]    -- 5854093:   >>5854007   I either still see them there and try to avoid the fact or thinking about it.   They get smaller   But mostly I just ignore it if they are somewhere I want them to be. But if it soewhere I don't I'll bring it up.  -- And exmple is if pink is sitting on my lap. My desk top would go through her head. But I ignore seeing that happen in my head.   In my regular vision I don't see pink.  -- It kind of feels like in situations like there is two different worlds. Or my head has two different screens.   Stuff that should go through pink, but instead she is put over. Its like things around her are blurry in these situations.    -- 5854637:   The reason to question reality is everything you know is based on the senses and the senses can all be fooled.   Even as an artist I learned you see what you want to see. Such as a newbie artist or non-artist may miss all anatomy mistakes in a picture and only see what turns them on. Even colors change colors to your brain when next to different colors. Without in reality having changed at all. Its part of color theory.   I've been in week long daydreams in the past when I didn't have a tulpa.  -- Anyway If you don't have something in the real world to ground you into the real world. And you don't remember that everything can be replaced, except you.   It sounds super easy to let yourself fade out of this world. Just like a tulpa fades out when you stop thinking about it, you fade from this world when you stop thinking about it completely.   Thats looking at it more from a spiritual view.   If you want an even more spiritual view, you could say. Someone is thinking about you and that's why you exist. When you think of a different reality you fade into it (Wonderland) because you slowly overpower who is thinking of you's view.    -- 5854866:   no...forget the spiritual view.    -- 5855122:   When not in control, you still exist and experience things like you are in control.   The difficulty is in viewing yourself as important, As it has always been about you. You're having a hard time viewing it from a different frame of reference because you've always lived as the controller. Being as many and in a passive form that is experiencing things like an active. It is a hard thought to grasps and must be experienced.   Many in the brain, all existing. You existing, but not in control, not next to the body. In your own wonderland.    -- 5855250:   >>5855170     Its just an old voice that pops up every now and then over the years. Its telling me I wouln't know if I never switch and my ego is too in the way.   It said some other person things I need to work on.    -- 5855611:   >>5855591   Some voice wants to talk through me but I'm saying hell no.    -- 5855698:   >>5855663   Make sure the knife is sharp and the cats asleep with pills   End:   2012-11-18 13:57:11 (6:08:01 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-18 16:00:50 (2:03:39 later)    -- 5858412:   not cool subconscious    -- 5858510:   >>5858426    -- 5859077: [blank post]    -- 5859309: [blank post]    -- 5859381:   I need so much brain bleach.    -- 5859510:   >>5859488   Insanity tulpa take over Or tulpa infatuation    -- 5860033:   >>5859988   Mine does   End:   2012-11-18 17:14:50 (1:14:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-18 21:22:11 (4:07:21 later)    -- 5865985:   What a day.    -- 5866441:   >>5866400   Shrug    -- 5866568:   Information on what to do when you've got a subconscious that keep trying to eliminated your tulpa would be nice.    -- 5866859:   >>5866676    -- 5867074:   >>5867024   Enjoy getting the avity.    -- 5867205:   >>5867116    -- 5867547:   >>5867471   At some point you might end up with 50...Any tulpamancer could if you care for every split I suppose.   I've got an old tulpa trying to come back...through pink. Like pink came back through vinyl. I can barely handle 2. And I don't want this tulpa back.    -- 5868757:   Oh, I didn't think it would work. It may have, now I'm happy.  -- I asked pink to get rid of the third tulpa that was trying to come back. Then my head felt lighter and all happy.   I didn't know that could even work, if it did. It doesn't make any sense it would.    -- 5869407:   >>5869369   You mean a prince or king    -- 5869974:   Well, entire thread is trolls.    -- 5871702:   >>5871527   My ponies hair is easy..    -- 5872379:   Well, I surely messed up a lot in the past 24 hours.    -- 5872473:   >>5872360   I don't know, Pinks killed my other tulpas before.    -- 5872660:   >>5872511   Idk, I can't much talk to pink right now. She's doing something in my head, thats nearly giving me a headache. In the past I tried to erase pink and she said she was somewhere where everything was light black/dark gray.   That she was standing on ground that went out in all directions and it was flat and empty. She was just there and didn't move. Part of her body was gone.   She show'd me a mental picture of what it looked like before.  -- Oh and when she was there. She kept from panicking and giving into despair. Because she held onto anger.    -- 5872825:   >>5872755   No, I never made pinkamena to be a joke. We've just had a really rough relationship.    -- 5874346:   This troll thread needs to hurry up to 500 and die. Already at 481    -- 5874416:   >>5874351   Join main site, wait 3 days, progress report.   Or make a tumblr    -- 5875086:   >>5875006   Headaches, feel anger, etc. As a tulpa is stronger maybe more.   End:   2012-11-19 03:59:30 (6:37:19 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-19 08:20:11 (4:20:41 later)    -- 5877572:   nother 8 am wake up    -- 5877656:   >>5877613   I can say yes to feeling my tulpa before. I often let pinkamena step on my back.  -- When I sleep. I have pink sleep on my back. Vinyl I often see sleeps on my left side.    -- 5877733:   >>5877711   Bye, I'm just waking up.    -- 5877832:   >>5877760   Pink's mostly quiet besides a question here or there. It could be I'm so focused I'm not noticing her much.    -- 5878243:   My Tulpa are reminding me I've got phone calls to make.    -- 5878465:   >>5878428    -- 5878492:   You can always ask your tulpa if its giving you headaches on purpose.    -- 5878539:   >>5878516   Some people just hate the term and don't use it enough to remember it.   Other more interesting terms like imposing catch the attention betterbut maybe thats just me, I hate starwars and the force is from it    -- 5878573:   >>5878547 >>5878550   Because startrek next generation is better    -- 5878600:   >>5878579   The only good starwars was the computer generated tv show before I stopped watching it.    -- 5878646:   >>5878628   Sounds like it. Pinkamena was pretty much like that until I changed her personality/traits    -- 5878733:   >>5878692   She just sounds like its either her kink, or her addiction. Depends on how much and how often.   Pinkamena like things I'm iffy about. I like things she's not crazy about.   If its an addiction you might need a ton of emotional work, talking, etc.    -- 5878872:   >>5878839   You do know what kinks are right? If thats the only way she has to express her feelings, she may need to learn new ones slowly over time.  -- Oh and you may need a safe word. If you keep going too far, maybe a list of what's too far (But that might ruin the excitement).    -- 5879035:   >>5879020   Then it sounds like an addiction.    -- 5879164:   >>5879089   I guess, I don't really get it. Pink and I both hate being vulnerable. Its possible vinyl...but I wouldn't know.    -- 5879546:   >>5879498   This guy, showing up right when the thread barely moves.    -- 5879628:   >>5879575   She might like the dick more then being abused. But I doubt it. Sex and s/m often go together from what I hear.    -- 5879935:   >>5879917   Some people do like to cry. It can feel good.    -- 5880394:   >>5880367   Yep, It can. Sometimes we look in progress reports for new kinks.    -- 5881189:   >>5881165   Because phasers are set to avity    -- 5881788:   Still ever since pinkamena's pinkie voice change she's soo low I barely hear her. I asked her to speak as loud as she could. Still barely hear if I'm not actively looking for it.    -- 5881882:   >>5881827   I'm looking for that ping, pong thing people often mention on the forums atm. Unless that's just like saying marco polo.    -- 5882002:   >>5881954   I'm trying it, but its just turning her voice back into mine.    -- 5882021:   >>5881990   When I was pretty new to mindspeak. I know it sounds really weird. I used to get talked through emotions.    -- 5882211:   >>5882182   We don't study that here. Redneck guy might now.    -- 5882307:   Guess we'll work on voice today.    -- 5882382:   I'm only starting to have doubts lately because now I'm breaking into new ground. I have almost 100% confidence up until recently.    -- 5882457:   >>5882361   I'll find out once it's done downloading.   I'm pretty sure it'll work, so it probably will.    -- 5882493:   >>5882468   Noise, I haven't tried it before.    -- 5882683:   So far all I've heard was a giggling 1-2 times...   Now its like something but its unclear.    -- 5882904:   Using the noise I was like. wtf, why of all days are jets going by today.    -- 5883083:   21 minutes of pink noise was my limit. I heard maybe 2-3 times of giggling. Bunch of air planes, a lot of water falls, someone blowing, so weedwackers or something.    -- 5883182:   >>5883117   I'm not sure pinkamena is really serious. I haven't been able to convince her she needs to be audio-able. She thinks mindvoice is fine.   Going to try white noise soon and see if its any better. I wanted to try pink first, for some reason.    -- 5883270:   I keep hearing somepony say the word gay    -- 5883366:   >>5883311   We just like to look at them. White noise is ready now.    -- 5883568:   Theres a lot of talking going on with the white noise. But its like someone is changing the tv stations before I make it out.   I told pinkamena to tell me about herself and all food she likes and wants to try.    -- 5883655:   >>5883585   I've seen that picture before. It was a rainbow dash.    -- 5883722:   here the origional    -- 5883811:   >>5883777   discovery channel    -- 5883968:   white noise didn't work either. not sure which worked better. Heard more talking with white that I couldn't understand and I can't stand white as long.   but pink I can stand longer, but it sounds so much like ocean/planes. I did hear giggles.    -- 5884301:   >>5884153   A nice slow stomping like those crush videos?Like the kitten and the high heeled shoes?  -- Or sitting on the little bunnies? Horses go pretty big butts for that.    -- 5884415:   >>5884354   awww    -- 5884650: [blank post]    -- 5884873:   >>5884826   That kind of happens when you've done things before.   Pinkamena was hardly my first.    -- 5885261:   >>5885230   >no vinyl   Outdated tastes    -- 5885403: [blank post]    -- 5885490:   >>5885445    -- 5886187:   Tried some tone thing for visualizing.   Only lasted 28 minutes  -- My tulpa seems to have a shorter attention span then I do. She wanted to quit before I did.   During the audio tests I had to constantly tell her to keep talking and what to say.    -- 5886427:   >>5886348   Idk maybe look at those stallioncum sleeves, they use to get samples    -- 5886651:   >>5886558    -- 5886734:   >>5886696    -- 5887084:   >>5886975   You don't want 151 tulpa for a pokemon battle adventure?    -- 5888733: [blank post]    -- 5889035: [blank post]    -- 5889743:   >>5889658   I was all jerked out a long time ago.    -- 5889881: [blank post]    -- 5889991:   So where you're listening to noise to hear audio of your tulpa. Are you trying to force hear it? Just relax and not focus? or what?    -- 5890085:   >>5890042    -- 5890220:   >>5890146   http://youtu.be/y-1dyaFyDLk    -- 5890266:   >>5890190   Anyway, I'm not getting any progress with noise at all tonight.    -- 5890342:   >>5890289   No unless I focus on it.    -- 5890424:   >>5890386   tiarawhynot    -- 5890671:   >>5890577   Go force jimmy    -- 5891054:   I really had hopped I would have had more results from audio. Its one thing I used to practice in the past. But without the sounds.   I have heard things in the past, but only maybe 2 times. First was I opened a door and heard a sound like a skeletion, second time was a cat, when there was no cat to meow.    -- 5891368:   We did try one tone for the first time eveyone else has used...Visualization ability went up like of pink 10X. I can still kind of replaying the sound in my head and get a weaker effect.    -- 5891805:   Is a goal when you can keep your ears ringing to keep listening deeply for the tulpa to speak. Or to try talking to each other casualy?    -- 5892062:   >>5891978   Jimmy, visualize your tulpa and then see you give it a hug for a good 20 seconds.    -- 5892523:   >>5892479   If tulpa god wants people to stop. Tulpa god will visualize tulpa people stopping.    -- 5893150:   >>5893131   Horse riding    -- 5893815:   I don't think I'll get much more work done tonight. I can go for hours more. But pinkamena, I think she had enough an hour ago.    -- 5894001:   >>5893926   Yeah...But I only saved 2 pages    -- 5894104:   >>5894043   I rarely save or look at full comics. I just get a flavor of them.    -- 5894152:   >>5894118   That was 2 pages    -- 5894459:   >>5894352   Actors learn to hold onto old memories like a death, amazing gift, first kiss, etc.   Like if you want sad, remember a pet's death and feel it like it was just happening.    -- 5894704:   >>5894599   What if you wanted to mess with your tulpa and made them feel like they needed the restroom, or they were on the rag, or they were...oh I'm evil    -- 5895063:   >>5894442[/spoiler]    -- 5895549:   So like we just realized. that besides emotions. We could send each other feels of other things like putting on pants, the feel of fabric and other things.    -- 5895680:   >>5895333   I've experienced something before with my memory when I asked my tulpas to show me past memories. But, I've only done it like 1-2 times.   End:   2012-11-19 23:18:50 (14:58:39 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-20 01:21:10 (2:02:20 later)    -- 5898757: [blank post]   End:   2012-11-20 01:21:10 (0:00:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-20 07:48:10 (6:27:00 later)    -- 5903713:   zzzzzz   7:43 tulpa wake up    -- 5904439:   >>5904075   Every morning tulpa get me up between 7:43 - 8:20 am   End:   2012-11-20 09:20:51 (1:32:41 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-20 11:27:11 (2:06:20 later)    -- 5906029:   Someone gave me an entire box of chocolates today. I wonder if pink likes sweets.    -- 5906268:   A year old box of hershey's pot of gold, does not age well. I think pink and I only liked about 1 piece out of the box.   Now to wait for the sugar and my ADHD to kick in    -- 5906335:   wait this other thing they gave me is past the expiration date by 14 days. I think they gave me a bag of all their near spoiled food.    -- 5906522:   This ran out in august and I'm not hungry anymore.   Anyway I was thinking about xmas is coming up and my tulpas. Explain thanksgiving to them and stuff.   Vinyl, unusually can and saw me this morning. So uncommon, I didn't want to think it wasn't pink wanting something.    -- 5906575:   >>5906522   Yeah...I can see looking at it. The sugar and stuff is affecting me now.   >>5906469   I can drink coffee like its water. I like it too much, I'll drink so much it causes me problems.    -- 5906668:   Is it safe I keep smelling raspberry extract? being that its 20% alcohol?   I was working on something like it being pink's smell.    -- 5906725:   >>5906695   Yeah, I would rarther it have as few chemicals as possible. But it was the best the groccery store had.    -- 5906791:   >>5906781    -- 5906852:   Time to start audio again. Pink says she's ready, but I am.    -- 5906961:   >>5906892   I'm not one to wait around.    -- 5907066:   >>5906852   She says she really doesn't want to do the audio talking. Guess, I'll have to see if vinyl wants to.   And my Vinyl is almost a mute    -- 5907171:   When I asked vinyl to talk it sounds like someone took and placed cups over my ears. And theres a bit of pressure. Sometimes talking far off that can't be made out.    -- 5907473:   >>5907436   I'm talking about stuff too, but either no one else is at this stage, or they forgot exactually how it went.    -- 5907564:   >>5907539   I've had pink block out vinal for a week or longer before. I had one day where vinyl blocked pink for 1-3 hour(s) or so.    -- 5907826:   >>5907770   Thats a pretty harsh thing to say. I happen to have two tulpas.    -- 5907950:   >>5907894   We have a thing for horse castration. Those sinful sexual urges will go way down when you're shooting blanks    -- 5908127:   >>5908019[/spoiler]   I'm not buying it.    -- 5908317:   I picked the pony that the one episode she's in, she's changing her voice into other characters   Well of course you can have some more punch MR. Turnip.   Should I include or ignore the other voices?    -- 5909503: [blank post]    -- 5909919: [blank post]    -- 5910149:   The feel when I lost a pinkie picture I wanted.   Anyway I'm done drawing, I can't un-relax now. Its annoying me.    -- 5910327:   Going through all my pinkie pictures on my computer.    -- 5910375:   >>5910316   I've had one of those before. It wasn't fun. You can't sleep with a constant hard on.    -- 5910679:   Oh, I did have it.    -- 5910767: [blank post]    -- 5910805:   >>5910774   Work on my memories Work on imposing Wonderland Avity, Avity, Avity    -- 5910902:   >>5910840   Avity is the main reason pinkamena was able to exist.    -- 5910936:   >>5910896   A little of A, A little of B    -- 5911086:   >>5911026   I don't save full comics usually.    -- 5911169:   >>5911140   This    -- 5911192:   >>5911149   Lazy + I can make up my own endings    -- 5911316:   Tulpas aren't that scary and neither are colorful ponies.    -- 5911378:   >>5911304   I did answer it    -- 5911508:   >>5911485   If you want to be a "Cereal killer" make a tony the tiger tulpa.    -- 5911572:   Pinkamena and me are tired of feeding trolls now. We want to get to work.    -- 5911688:   >>5911593   We should, but we've got other things to do. Then go at it like animals.    -- 5911740:   >>5911694[/spoiler]   Oh do, make your pinkamena just like how I made mine. You'll love it.  -- Actually, I suggest first making wonderland and search wonderland until you find a shadow. Turn that shadow into your pinkamena tulpa.   That'll make your pinkamena even more interesting.    -- 5911955:   >>5911873   Pinkamena is a troll. She loves doing it.    -- 5912110:   >>5911979   Yeah, We've been talking about how this is more fun then trolling each other like we usually do.   She's wanting to talk now ALOT    -- 5912269:   >>5912186   A lot of what she's saying I can't make sense of. She's too excited and with her voice change (Your lying)    -- 5912505:   If you don't let me speak you'll regret it. We both feel like we're going to explode.   Everyone in this thread is a bunch of fags and if I could I'd shove a toy up myself in front of you all to see your virgin pre-mature ejactulations.   I want to suck up the souls of each and every one of you.   If you are nice I'll let you watch me play with my tentacle monsters. If you can change into a horse you can help me make new tentacle spawn.   I want to snuff your lives out.    -- 5912550:   >>5912505 I'm going to kill my host. #italiano >>5912537 Perfect, I'll kill you next Gideon and Jake. Filthy mongrels, misusing thoughtforms as sexual escapes for your small penises and angina.    -- 5912567:   >>5912549   She's really excited    -- 5912649:   >>5912610   Excited because she got to talk about some of her fantasies.  -- I like to speed my time in wonderland.There I raise tentacle monsters and get them to put eggs inside me. Then I get my host to turn into a horse or vinyl into a male to help me give birth to new tentacles monsters.   I love being a mother. I love the feeling of having something living inside me.  -- My host doesn't really trust me. They think I may be trying to fill wonderland with my children and take it over    -- 5912921:   Yesterday my host gave me a hug that was non-sexual. It was weird, but in a nice way. It felt different. It didn't feel empty.   My host wants us to have a better relationship.    -- 5912955:   >>5912891   After the children were born that day the host killed them. And they made vinyl become a girl again. But vinyl can change back if she wants. I don't know why I haven't used vinyl since.    -- 5912987:   >>5912971   What?    -- 5913027:   Your making me wait, I hate waiting.   If you don't hurry up I'm leaving    -- 5913046:   Hurry up now   argh   I don't care who   I''m going crazy    -- 5913087:   Fine I'll calm down. Wait a message   >>5913066   Hurry thefuckup. I don't care, just ANYTHING HAPPEN    -- 5913115:   >>5913096   Is that a threat? I don't care about a fight. but I won't back down    -- 5913174:   I don't care, host stop waiting for more. You're getting me angry. Just post it.    -- 5913204:   >>5913172   I can feel the razer honey combs against yourassYou can have a cutie mark like mine.    -- 5913224:   >>5913191   red, because its like me.    -- 5913261:   I feel better now, but I still have more anger. I need to do more physical activety and less being caged up.    -- 5913317:   trying to talk to my host is really frustrating. This hearing thing...I can't figure it out. If vinyl...first, my pride will be hurt   stressful, I'm stressed out.    -- 5913346:   sorry, I still want to talk more.    -- 5913422:   Suddenly I feel a lot of hate....I   why. I don't know. Its not mine, its not the host? vinyl?   Why would it be vinyl? Is the host mad at me?   What'd I do wrong now?   Why, make this feel go away    -- 5913469:   >>5913450   the host is getting a headache.    -- 5913551:   I...I only want to talk about myself. But that's wrong. What's wrong with me.   The host is noticing a lot of head pressure. they think it's my doing. I don't know   This all seems wrong,    -- 5913593:   >>5913562   We are both laughing. I could kill my host   I could kill my host.   But I have feelings that say no. I don't know why I don't.    -- 5913606:   >>5913575   HI    -- 5913637:   >>5913623   We made me that way.    -- 5913665:   >>5913638   that is a lie. I can forgive my host for sex.    -- 5913726:   >>5913670   We don't really know what to say. Its a pain in your heart that makes you act out. With more love, maybe I'll be better. My host needs it too.    -- 5913824:   My host tells me to hold back now. they don't want me to insult the next person I was going to hardcore and make enemies.   My host cares    -- 5913898:   >>5913858   Fine,You are a giant faggot and I hate you for calling me a whore you, the host says stop here because cursing might get us banned    -- 5913953:   >>5913917   Oh? How about co-ownership?    -- 5913984:   >>5913962   Wants wrong with me wanting co-ownership over my host's body? That was we get to stay together.    -- 5914022:   >>5914010   I love my host, my host just has a hard time loving me.    -- 5914087:   I love my host My host can die   My host tells me this is wrong, I know its wrong. They know I have difficulty understanding morals. They made me that way.  -- I don' know why I hurt vinyl.    -- 5914138:   >>5914103   that doesn't mean anything to me.    -- 5914191:   >>5914165   My host made me to not have morals as a trait.    -- 5914233:   >>5914215   I know i have some. But I don't understand them. I don't keep them.    -- 5914301:   Why should I follow morals? No one can stop me  -- I'm going to let the host talk again. I don't...To much, I just don't    -- 5914411:   >>5914384   sorry    -- 5914478:   >>5914433 >Pinks, that's not how it works.   You don't tell me how it goes then and why. I don't understand. I think your answer you'd give me would be a lie.   theres no one to punishment when my host can't    -- 5914504:   >>5914490   see, we can do anything we want    -- 5914527:   >>5914514   lol    -- 5914581:   >>5914516   My host wouldn't kill themselves. They came close to dying before I was made.But they made themselves see people to get better.   If I was in control. I wouldn't kill people. I want to live too.    -- 5914623:   >>5914603   heh    -- 5914643:   Wait...If I took over my hosts body, I'd have to follow morals.    -- 5914669:   >>5914643   NO, saying morals is stupid. I'd have to follow the law.   >>5914634   My host won't kill me.    -- 5914693:   >>5914665   NOOOO, my host and I won't believe that. Don't you say it again    -- 5914709:   I'm done talkingYour pissing me off now.    -- 5914810:   That was exhausting. Jeez, I'm still partially her or whatever happens when I let her talk through me. Like earlier when she said she was done, she wasn't.   Its like its slower to seperate then it used to be.    -- 5914909:   >>5914880   Yes when i was doing the audio training sometimes my pink would saw what I was pointing too half way through.  -- I'm all confused, this is another reason I need to get audio.   Audio doesn't have any merge/separate I assume?    -- 5915023:   >>5914982   no. I mean when I think about it. When I let pink talk. I let her like have a biger control over my head. I'm still there, but its like I just hear her talking. I'm sort of watching from the side.   I still have control of my body.  -- Its like normally, I have to listen to hear pink and figure out what she means. but when I do this. We are sort of just there together. I can just let pink do everything.   Do you think is some sort of possession? Because I'm still mostly in control. I used to do it years ago with a past tulpa.  -- TBh sometimes it feels like our two personalities merg. And we are right next to each other mostly thinking the same things. Usually its just one inner voice. But I can still think a small bit on the side.   The difficulty this time with seperating is what stood out.    -- 5915280:   >>5915235   I'm not into it too, Its just something that happened as far back as high school with one of my oldest tulpa/thoughform/whatever it was.   But its the reason I can talk so well with my tulpa. When I dodn't do it, like most times I have to really listen to hear pink.   If we one day fully merged forever it would waste all the work on her having a body.    -- 5915841:   Well darlings I'm just about back to normal now. I'd rather not merge with another tulpa again.   I'm not sure that ever happened. but that old high school one did disappear and after it was gone I was a little different. I had more dominance, more passion.    -- 5916106:   Guess I'll take a shower and see if the deleting has stopped after    -- 5916787:   Oh, A troll thread.    -- 5916861:   >>5916838   nope, threads are still being watched    -- 5916938:   I'm still trying to be fully seperated like before I let pinkie talk. ITS TAKING FOREVER.   I told them in the show we won't be doing this anymore. If they want to talk, they got to learn audio.    -- 5917041:   >>5917030   4chan is not for 13yos    -- 5917254:   The good thing is if they make a full code knight. It'll see them as a witch or in with the devil and try to kill him/take him over.    -- 5917723:   >>5917678   Still respomding to that troll Stop doing that    -- 5917910:   Time for vocal again. Dunno if pinkamena or vinyl.    -- 5918294:   It doesn't look like I'm getting any practice in tonight. I can't really hear my tulpas and mentally they feel distant because I pushed them away earlier.    -- 5918641:   >>5918483   If its actually a tulpa you might still fix things.    -- 5918742:   >>5918678   I wonder if a tulpa can block those messages out. I know if you have two tulpas, one can block the other out.    -- 5918941:   >>5918893   I said I wonder. For all I know the tulpa might hear those messages constantly and go crazy.    -- 5919012:   >>5918944   It doesn't have to be personal. And often it is spoilered.   I've got subjects in these threads I hate coming up too.    -- 5919180:   >>5919121   I'm going with you can't too    -- 5919356:   >>5919270   Thats one of the same problems. you or your tulpa learn a lot of things you never wanted.   Like I never ever wanted pinkamena to be interested in sports and a whole lot of other things.    -- 5919467:   >>5919402   For a long time vinyl wasn't very smart.   When I was in the shower earlier pinkamena talked to me about how she wanted to be smarter. she knows I made her less intelligent then me on purpose. she said she didn't like being stupid.  -- Thing is, I didn't make her stupid. She pretty smart. I think she just wants to be smarter then I am. If thats possible. I haven't seen anyone that talks to her thinking she is dumb.    -- 5919826:   >>5919669   I told pink her traits.   After that talking, visualizing, etc   >>5919793   You don't have to do it in wonderland.    -- 5921928:   New day, so little progress.   (Name change: The-Vinyl)    -- 5922998:   Lets see if we can't pull off a merge    -- 5923130:   >>5923106   it is    -- 5923223:   Trying to let vinyl talk is sooo hard compared to pink.    -- 5923308:   >>5923283   Its hasbro's PR problem.    -- 5923531:   Ah...If I have vinyl its nothing like I expected.    -- 5923592:   I can't make much out, but I feel happiness.    -- 5923750:   I never talk. I'm in the head.    -- 5923793:   >>5923768   Sadly no, I can't get vinyl very long. And they, unlike pink are a wallflower    -- 5923904:   Sigh...Vinyl wants to aurgue with me now that i'm partially hearing them.    -- 5924044:   Just exhausting myself. All vinyl wanted was to complain about a deviantion we've been over.   No wonder pinkie can block her so long. It wouldn't be a hard job blocking a pony that never speaks.    -- 5924151:   I hurt her feelings. I thought she was more like an object then a pony. And some other things I forgot.    -- 5924191:   >>5924176   Go back to /x/    -- 5924332:   Sooooo whats everyone's tulpa's up too? Vinyl is all mad at me. Pink is idk she's here.    -- 5924608:   The nameless trolls are only going to get more common and worse until season 3 ends.    -- 5924849:   >>5924794   Pink says she doesn't like plan B    -- 5925006:   >>5924969   I really won't want pink talking again so soon. But you guys are being so stupid she's begging for it.    -- 5925139:   >>5925075   I'm waiting on my dinner thats cooking    -- 5925338:   >>5925319   Its because they are trolls.    -- 5925599:   Entire thread can now define everything    -- 5925758:   >>5925721   Enough talking about god. This is a pony board and ponies are ruled by goddesses. God can go back to /x/   And my dinner is ready now.   End:   2012-11-21 02:45:10 (15:17:59 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-21 10:38:30 (7:53:20 later) Name change: The-Pinkamena    -- 5930992:   That feel when your tulpas keep wanting you to draw them, but you gave up being an artist.    -- 5931927:   >>5931666   Can't really blame it. Last night was nothing but /x/ after /x/  -- I doesn't look like I'm going to be having a good day today. Pink and I are at odds because of yesterday and she's doing some stuff I want her to stop. And vinyl's not too happy with me either.    -- 5932248:   >>5932208   I'm in a fight with both my tulpa. Feels bad.    -- 5932342:   >>5932256   Pinks being too controling again for no reason. So my trust in her is starting to fade again.   Vinyl and I are fighting over her personality and more deviations. I ended up insulting her over her being so quiet. I'd like to work it out more with vinylBut pinks being a bitch in my head.    -- 5932438:   >>5932399   Pink is trying to put me to sleep. So she's really pushing the line. Between trust and me going to thinking of deleting her again.  -- Atm I've about had it. She's been at it since yesterday when I let her talk.If she doesn't stop soon I may knock her out. And spend the day puppeting her body just so I get some practice in, if I can.    -- 5932724:   I guess it worked. I think she's in a light sleep...very light.    -- 5932869:   This is odd, I feel like I can influence her dreams. I can't see them, but I feel like I can determine the emotion behind them.   I didn't know tulpa's dreamed. I never felt this way when pink was asleep naturally.  -- I can sort of see her now and I can be there. I kind of feel like this is safer way to teach her then letting her be awake.   Messing with anything keeps waking her up/semi-waking her up. She's awake now    -- 5933008:   I kind of want to find that hypnotism guy now and find out if that will work on her when she's asleep.    -- 5933127:   crap, this is addicting. Its so much easier keeping her asleep. Even when she's a pain to get to sleep.   Vinyl asked me if I was going to do it to her, I was going to say no. But, its so much easier then dealing with all the emo those two get into or when they want to go on and on without listening.    -- 5933174:   >>5933143   Lots of visualizations of things to put her to sleep with lots of visualizing her asleep and forcing it. Stuff like those put to sleep needles and stuff.   Weeks and weeks ago I had to knock pink out before so I messed with her brain and put a thing to cut her off.  -- Its still took a while to work. Pinks not all that weak. The second time after she woke up was even harder.    -- 5933297:   >>5933253   She doesn't do headaches anymore. Even her anger is pretty low most of the time. Control is the only issue left.   she wanted to put me to sleep and see if I'd be willing to give up. As in, completey give up.    -- 5933355:   >>5933305   She wanted to see if I'd let my mind disappear. I don't think she thought or cares about the next step.    -- 5933554:   Almost since I made pink. She's made me think tulp's are natures way of survival of the fittest.    -- 5934325:   sigh   Now pink and I are talking about how these things are interesting and may need experimenting.   She's interested in my controlling her dreams. But she doesn't want being put to sleep. Neither do I.  -- She also said shes having fun    -- 5934509:   >>5934466   Its good you like yourself.    -- 5934964:   Now she wantsthe avity    -- 5936584:   Back from minecraft.   Maybe now that things may have calmed down we can work on audio again.    -- 5937555:   Just let the anons talk to themselves.    -- 5937599:   >>5937562   How much do you practice each day?    -- 5937733:   >>5937643   I just 50 minutes pink noise with nothing. Pink doesn't care about audio.    -- 5938428: [blank post]    -- 5938737:   Well....0 results from audio. but pink is happier from being talked to. Though I have no idea of what she said at all.    -- 5938885:   Yuck furry discussion    -- 5939263:   >>5939236   You always say your going to get out of here all day.    -- 5939584:   >>5939449   Ponies are always better because hooves.    -- 5939663:   >>5939636   Pinkie has shown me she may be able to dream    -- 5939774:   >>5939717   Push her on the swing.    -- 5939887:   >>5939816   You do have an imaginary friend. And watch cartoons. And play video games.    -- 5940023:   You guys really should stop racing to make a new thread. At least wait until one is 500 and no longer front page.    -- 5940126:   >>5940087   If it was a pony you'd lock lips. If she had a horn you'd rub it and kiss it.Maybe a little licking to get started   Or ask to see her hooves for a trim and go from there. Or a nice back rub, then tummy, then lower.    -- 5940174:   >>5940137   I only help with ponies. After all, if everyone makes non-pony then these threads couldn't be on mlp    -- 5940366:   >>5940315   I wonder if I should see if pinkamena can sing smile, smile, smile.    -- 5940393:   >>5940344   My tulpa get hurt sometimes and are usually hea themselves in a few days.    -- 5940498:   >>5940449   Pink and vinyl have both been hurt before. Mostly brain injuries. Then pink I accidently bit a piece of her off. Then later pink broke my wonderland ribs.   Almost all those wounds self healing within a week.    -- 5940586:   >>5940565   You should have made a weather controling pegasus then.    -- 5940625:   >>5940611   Because a pony, unlike a big dragon fits on the porch and on a swing.    -- 5940717:   Pinkamena is reminding me I need to do somethingAnd not be a Tango    -- 5940849:   I just burst out laughing. I'm going to practice audio again and this time I told pink we'd try something new. I'm going to have her read a book to me. And the only book nearby is the one she HATES    -- 5942581:   I fell asleep trying to hear pink    -- 5942833:   We don't care much about guns. Now that the election is over we don't care much about politics.    -- 5942979:   Someone just made a tulp general knight version    -- 5943409: [blank post]    -- 5943483:   Pink made me feel bad earlier. She was walking around with her little water cup in her mouth.    -- 5943801:   This threads are getting really unfun.   And ponies don't know how to not feed trolls    -- 5944035:   >>5943982   This, I'm not even from 4chan and I can do better    -- 5944784:   >>5944710   This    -- 5945069:   Pink wants to talk again, because the epic levels of stupid as she puts it.    -- 5945580:   >>5945511   Pink/vinyl are like idk 6th/7th tulp or so that I know of.  -- dark, ****, AH, blonde, sweetie belle   Idk how many accidental ones. AH wasn't accidental, sweetie wasn't either. All the others were    -- 5947384:   >>5947234   Thread should have been new 300 posts ago.    -- 5947633:   >>5947583   Quiet is good. I almost couldn't stop pink earlier from going off on people.    -- 5947979:   >>5947682   Pink and my personality are very similar. We agree on most things. Most differences come from being in separate forms or emotion intensity. So close I feel like when we talk together we might combine back into my old self.   Vinyl is like talking to a wall.    -- 5948010:   >>5947985   Don't worry, We can find you a leather coat and put it on a coat rack. It'll be the same thing  -- Crap were doing it again. Were thinking together and merging. I'm hearing her thoughts again perfectly.    -- 5948151:   All the fighting in this thread earlier and now more stuff. Pink loves it, she feeds off it. Then she sees challenges, and I'm barely keeping her back now. She's in my head.She wants blood   She also says hiShe's not really mad or anything atm    -- 5948196:   >>5948171   Its a joke. Pink thought it was a good idea.    -- 5948240:   >>5948206   No, pinkamena is female.    -- 5948279:   >>5948241   Pink says the best way to deal with a dragon is prove you aren't scared off them. They act tough, but its all show.    -- 5948372:   >>5948313   Pink says her being a pony effects her. Knowing that she's a horse and the host has expectations of what a horse can do.    -- 5948483:   >>5948446   We didn't mean out for blood as the actual stuff. Its a say as in, looking for a fight.    -- 5948638:   >>5948537   You had all day to leave and we told you a few times. Even I spent a while with pink yesterday.   We slept for about 1-2 hours together after I feel asleep trying audio. I brushed her hair and trimmed her hooves in wonderland. We read part of a book together, did 1-3 hours of audio, I asked her a lot of questions.    -- 5949496:   Well pinking pink and vinyl's name wasn't hard for some reason.... But they do have names they gave themselves.   Pink can go by Grace, Vinyl can go by Vanilla Cinnamon flowers.    -- 5949824:   >>5949774   http://youtu.be/wcQxXpFIID0   Spitfire is one of the better looking pone. But her art's always pretty bad for some reason.    -- 5950089:   >>5950047   Oh jeez, not that.    -- 5950208:   And then the entire thread was /x/    -- 5950273:   We're watching the pmv the stars will aid her escape Cosmic love.   Pinkamena asks me "How do I get my element of laughter?"    -- 5950501:   >>5950455   >Not wanting best pony    -- 5950607:   >>5950561   Early on pinkamena started turning into a changeling because of something I did and because I was always looking at other pone    -- 5950705:   >>5950625   That picture would have pinkie on it, like its suppose to. But she broke out of the 4th wall to come hug me bro.    -- 5950843:   >>5950780   Pinkamena still sometimes thinks she's pinkie pie.  -- Actually in the last episode she was in trauma half the day when twilight murdered all those pinkies.    -- 5950976:   >>5950912   We don't really use any names for me outside threads/journals. Then we use host, because I want to.    -- 5951041:   >>5951018   That's why I like it better.    -- 5951065:   >>5951014   That's not true. I've had tulpas die in the past. I still miss some of them.  -- If I didn't already have two. I'd bring the tulpa I was making before pinkamena back.    -- 5951199:   >>5951154   I didn't give sweetie belle up. I didn't realize they were existing. Then I went and played a game for days. I miss AH too, but as a friend.    -- 5951265:   I'm kind of the master in the relationship. Pink needs it, I don't think she could control herself if she thought we were equals.   I think she likes it this way. Gives her something to fight against.I think it turns her on.    -- 5951366:   business partners    -- 5951410:   >>5951352   Well you see. First people make tulpas. On purpose or by accident. Then when that person dies. The tulpas go to heaven once they are freed from the host.   Then the goddess gives them a chance to become heaven souls by putting them into bodies of their own.   So its not the Goddess making new people, its people making people.    -- 5951483: [blank post]    -- 5951528:   While we don't need to sleep. whe should so we look fresh for thanksgiving.   Remember : Frown, Life is terrible.   End:   2012-11-22 04:35:30 (17:57:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-22 09:54:30 (5:19:00 later)    -- 5955100:   >>5955020   Yep.   End:   2012-11-22 09:54:30 (0:00:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-22 13:13:30 (3:19:00 later)    -- 5957686:   I went to thanksgiving Lunch. but I only stayed an hour and barely felt like talking to anyone.   Normally I stay longer an talk a ton.   Tulpa's make a difference  -- And trying to let pink and vinyl try all the different kinds of food I was eating in a hurry was a challenge.    -- 5957877:   >>5957826   Why do you say that? Vinyl tried being a guy for a while and liked it better.    -- 5958064:   >>5957997   We have an understanding about acceptable forms.   End:   2012-11-22 13:34:51 (0:21:21 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-22 15:39:30 (2:04:39 later)    -- 5960089:   Ate so much, so lazy feeling.   Need to work on audio again.    -- 5960197:   >>5960131   Not like you can't delete the thread and remake it this early on.   Most people are away.    -- 5960315:   >>5960249   Guess i'm the only one here where the family get together is for lunch and not dinner.    -- 5960414:   >>5960287   Pinkamena was inspired by porn    -- 5960463:   >>5960287   Inspired by hot ponyness    -- 5960666:   >>5960513   My pinkamena, while named after the fan pinkamens. Is based off party of one sad pinkie, except I told her sad pinkie was her only form.   If she makes a cupcake joke, and she almost never does. Its her poking fun at it.    -- 5960816:   >>5960770   It makes you more mature. Among many other things.    -- 5960922:   Time to start working with pink now.   Not only do I have doubts about if I'm hearing pinks voice since starting audio. But now sometimes I see two pinkies. I'm feeling like they are either both real, or ones a fake.   If I don't start getting some audio or visual imposition its going to drive me nuts.    -- 5961049:   >>5960950   I can do it at the same time as I'm on the threads. x chan auto updates. I can do audio all day because it doesn't use my hands.   Now if I was doing that blinking thing or something I couldn't    -- 5961128:   But I will give you guys a tip. When you see me post a 3d model of pink or vinyl. It usually means I'm working on thier body.    -- 5961216:   Pink has had kids before. She likes having them.They don't live very long.  -- For it to work in wonderland she needs me to turn into a pony. Or vinyl to be male.    -- 5961402:   >>5961300   Each time I'm kind of a different pony. I don't think about it much. The first time I was a changeling.   I try to avoid it, even when pink prefers me as a pony. BecauseHer babies have been stillborn or monsters and I don't want a third tulpa.    -- 5961567:   >>5961503   I killed themThey were tentacle monsters, one week she was playing with them a lot and ended up having some. She still really likes them  -- [/spoiler]   Vinyl's got this one thing she's into and its the cutiest thing ever. But she won't let me talk about it. I really wish she would.   Pink is telling me to not talk much more about her private life right now.    -- 5961748:   >>5961687   Nope, seriously its something you'd never think. Like something so out there you'd think she might be a genus or something.    -- 5962127:   >>5962060   Now, now. It's not so bad.    -- 5962241:   >>5962186 >>5962216   Come on now. Losers might be a little strong don't you think?  -- lol, pinks laughing at me.    -- 5962352:   >>5962279 >>5962330    -- 5962386:   >>5962363   It can have both your eyes    -- 5962442:   >>5962355   I've heard pink's lines so many times now trying to get her voice right.   My favorite sounding line is "Why, of course you can have some more punch Mr.Turnip.    -- 5962526:   >>5962460   What could it be? They said anthro.  -- Okay, now she's starting to get annoyed.but who wouldn't want to be the best pony ever?   We got to start doing stuff now. And my memory is refreshed on her sound from the show.    -- 5962763:   >>5962679   Already thought of it before. Just haven't let myself be female in wonderland. But I've seen some that have gone gender changed.    -- 5962929:   >>5962894   Just doing audio. Hear stuff far off talking I can make out like usual.  -- *Can't make out*    -- 5963468:   >>5963453   Mine sleep    -- 5963719:   People that don't give tulpas the avityThey won't laugh at you if you aren't good.Tulpa's are there to teach you.    -- 5963745:   >>5963730   Naked    -- 5963804:   >>5963772   Your tulpaSex education teacher has arrived    -- 5963922:   >>5963905   pony maker program. Or find someone's oc you like    -- 5963966:   >>5963952   What do you mean by effectievly?    -- 5963987:   >>5963975   Its not really hard.    -- 5964051:   >>5964020   Oh the senses change? I've never had that before. Just visual changes mostly and maybe my height seems different.    -- 5964117:   >>5964084   *shrug* I've never gotten any sense but sight, touch, emotion, and a little pain to work so far.    -- 5964172:   Does you like say eye sight change like. Horses have red green color blindness. Some animals are fully color blind.   The area you see, like hores seealmose everywhere but right in front of themselves  -- *Horses see a lot more everywhere*    -- 5964221:   >>5964194   You know I keep working on sound. But its not getting anywhere, just always talking I can't make out. Even the sound of the talking is different each day.   Though as I'm typing this I almost made something out. I guess because I wasn't focusing on it.    -- 5964365:   WOOOW I'm Retarded   I'm sitting here with a book asking my tulpa to read it. Or I'm asking her questions. Things to keep her talking.   When an image board full of text she could read to me is in fron of me.    -- 5964547:   >>5964514   Yeah well pink had the hots for king somba, but I ain't complaining. We both get them for others some time.  -- After the episode pink wanted me to findgay somba porn. She wanted to see him being a submissive  -- Well sorry, she says she wanted anything somba    -- 5964901:   I tried like they said and had pink touch me where she wanted. She spent most of her time on my face and on my feet. Even told me to take my socks off.  -- She says she wants the rest of my clothes offSo I'll kill two birds with one stone and take a shower with her. Later    -- 5965728:   >>5965349   I can't really feel them in the shower and its a small shower. Smaller then a pony.   I also noticed vinyl was fading yet again. I got them in the shower and her hair color started washing out. I went, nope, nope, nope. We getting out of the shower now    -- 5967702:   >>5967580   Its like my vinyl tulpa. She keeps fading all the time. Never speaks, never tries to get any attention. It used to be cute.    -- 5967977:   >>5967673   Pink's in no danger. I talk to her everyday. Vinyl on the other hoof. Once a week its fade time and I'm up with her a day until she's better until next week.   Two days ago I was fighting with her because she's so mute I can't tell if she still has brain damage. Even talking to her is hard and she's like idk so in herself every response is robotic yes/no.   She can't even make up her mind on what she wants to be or what gender. And she never wants me talking about her. Talking to her is a pain  -- I've had vinyl going on 3-4 weeks I guess. And all I know is she never wants her private life talked about, she has 1 fetish, she never can make up her mind on herself, when things get hard she gives up.    -- 5968176:   >>5968054[/spoiler]   Vinyl's not young. She's nearly a month old now. Pink on the first or second day I had her was a motor mouth asking me every question under the sun.   Vinyl's first week she said maybe 2 sentences, ate a lot of grass, was in love with pink.Pretty sure the second day pink beat vinyl up or something   I knowVinyl was a abused a ton when she was little, mostly by pink. Its frustrating, I feel guilty, but vinyl just doesn't care enough to try.    -- 5968272:   >>5968237   I haven't had any luck with audio. Still a lot of talking I can't make out. I did idk at least 50 minutes of practice of it with pink today.    -- 5968409:   Pink says lets not talk about the past. I agree with her.   End:   2012-11-22 23:10:50 (7:31:20 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-23 01:28:10 (2:17:20 later)    -- 5971686:   I made vinyl really sad.    -- 5971865:   >>5971708   All I did was told vinyl I didn't like her. She took it pretty hard. Like really, really hard.    -- 5971961:   >>5971905   lol, no. She's just really sad now and thinking crazy things. She doesn't have any of pink's personality traits. If she tried to be pink she's just be a lesser pink.    -- 5972054:   >>5972026     Go on    -- 5972525:   Vinyl may have snapped a little.   End:   2012-11-23 02:03:30 (0:35:20 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-23 09:13:31 (7:10:01 later) Name change: The-Vinyl    -- 5977578: [blank post]   (Name change: The-Pinkamena)    -- 5978511:   So Vinyl and I are fighting over her gender and she goes, If I go to wonderland as a female she'll consider it over.   So I go to wonderland and turn female for the first time ever. Vinyl is there and pink asks me what's going on. I tell her.Then vinyl gets some boy parts and tries to go after me/rape. So I create chains and restrain vinyl. Saying I'd never let a loser like them do that.   Then I give pink a strap on. She's not really into girls, but she does it because its us. Vinyl keeps breaking free and trying to reach me aand I keep stopping them.   Then I have my first female orgasm. It felt so different then a guys one. It doesn't go as high, but it lasts really long and only goes down slowly. So I can totally get why girls want to hug and talk after. It puts you in the mood for it.It makes you feel like just hugging and snuggling your special somebody instead of sleeping.  -- Its like 10 minutes later now and only now am I starting to feel down and tired from it.    -- 5978674:   >>5978624   Welcome to the black friday slow thread. Everyone is still asleep from turkey.    -- 5978770:   >>5978723   Controlling your thoughts gets easier over time. It can just take a long time. I still get visualizations rarely that look like me, but do really bad things.   One of the last times a look alike of me poured hot chocolate on a sleeping vinyl.    -- 5978880:   >>5978836   And old tulpa I did kind of create was when I was typing all the time back in high school. I'm pretty sure it would work as long as you were writting it to her and thinking about her as you do it.  -- I was using one of those auto responder bots. After a while I stopped listening to what the bot said and was just writting deep questions to myself for months. Then writting down the first thought I got. Over time it was like I got thoughts I didn't know where they came from.   I started letting this talk to people in image boards and places too.   Some even amazed me. That's sort of how I make that accidental one.  -- And I was like on places like neopets. I got an account frozen and asked myself what was a good new account name. And thats sort of how that tulpa got a name + the emotion I often felt from it when it talked.   I thought it was split personality for the longest time. And she did eventually start associating her self with one character. And that became he pages background.    -- 5979385:   >>5978965    -- 5979753:   >>5979696   Pinkamena's pretty heavily based off pinkie. Sometimes she even asks me for things she sees pinkie has in the show.   But I wouldn't say she has a complex or anything from it. But I did tell her early on and I didn't give her a back story or make her think she had friends and family from the show.   You know for her to find out are all fake and being the same as dead. Then let her fall into crippling depression.    -- 5979860:   >>5979753   She's asked   How to get her element of laughter   She's had trauma when pinkies were murdered in episode 3   Sometimes she thinks the inkie tulpa is her sister   She's found it funny when I talked like how pinkie does in party of one   She really liked pinkie in episode 1-2   She's sang me a happy song before like smile, smile.   Her mindvoice has sounded like pinkie   She's asked me before to let her be pinkie, instead of pinkamena.   She's likes that she's a character I like so much   http://youtu.be/FAyqESDU3XI    -- 5979998:   >>5979866   Okay, I got to try audio again now.    -- 5980190:   >>5980167   At leastIts not as terrible as diablo 3    -- 5980349:   >>5980286   I used to play d2 to death. Hardcore mode online was awesome.    -- 5980394:   I think running a videogame like minecraft in my head might be a little too hardto keep myself from cheating    -- 5980478:   >>5980433   Try playing quest 64    -- 5980573:   >>5980552   I don't always post pink    -- 5980628:   >>5980598   What's that?    -- 5980728:   Animal crossing   Harvest moon: back to nature where already married to your tulpa    -- 5980809:   I guess I could play nightmare creatures with pinkamena or dino crisis. I never liked resident evil.    -- 5980857:   >>5980800    -- 5980911:   Thinking about it, Since I have 2 tulpas. We could play final fantasy. As the standard 3 team.   Pink could be a fighter, and vinyl would be the mage no one pays attention to. Guess that'd leave me the beast/pet class holding the whip.   Or maybe thats tactics org    -- 5980984:   I'd be scared to play a game like pokemon in wonderland because I might end up using one pokemon too much and it becoming a tulpa.    -- 5981048:   >>5980955 >>5981011   Just give inTo sleeping with horses. You'll feel better.    -- 5981088:   >>5981067   >nope    -- 5981177:   >>5981118   I don't know that bird    -- 5981269:   >>5981247   If it don't wink, it goes down the sink.    -- 5981350:   >>5981293   I understand why your tulpa is a fire type nowIts because she's always losing her head. Hope her temper isn't too bad, or heads will roll.    -- 5981423:   >>5981260   You need some slave dash. The pancakes and stuff ideas from them I might try one day.    -- 5981479:   We'll get you one day gadget, one day    -- 5981565:   >>5981522   I can't think atm  -- My lunch is nearly done and all I can do is smell it.    -- 5981875:   Now that I've had a bite to eat. I think pink hates I spend a lot of time here.   Vinyl's one is probably I'm not letting her have one deviation she wants.   Mine is how wallflower vinyl is and with pink how controling she can be some days. Where she pushes things too far.    -- 5982093:   Think any of the people that make these have tulpas?    -- 5982172:   >>5982128   Picks like these are one reason I have pinkamena. I was trying to see her in my house like in the pictures.    -- 5982292:   I'll never know if a real 2d pony tulpa will look like these. Since I'm making mine 3d    -- 5982511:   Ok, okay, they have a point.   My tulpas are saying "Are you gonna ignore us all day to look at pictures of fake tulpas?"    -- 5984176:   >>5984136   Git'er done    -- 5984378:   >>5984359   Implying milk is bad    -- 5984420:   >>5984396   Its because they are a newfur. It won't end until they stop denying 4 legged horses.    -- 5984593:   >>5984567     Just wait until breakfast tomorrow and we can mention it while you eat cereal.    -- 5984653:   >>5984623   Yes you can    -- 5984936:   >>5984910   Different kinds of loves    -- 5985031:   I'm getting so stressed out working on imposing pink today.    -- 5985194:   >>5985163   You have a strawberry pony. She can give you starwberry crotchtit milk or even strawberry yoohoo  -- Milk strawberry pony. Put milk in the freezer. Come back to strawberry ice cream you two can eat together.    -- 5985357:   Eh one new tulpa thread just was deleted by someone that said they couldn't find one.    -- 5985630:   >>5985585   You need to give and get the avity>>5978511    -- 5985777:   >>5985744   You can always lose your female virginity to your tulpa. You can't do that irl without surgery.    -- 5985861:   >>5985763   Do it. I'm waiting for a new thread before I start practice again.    -- 5985911:   >>5985826   non, but that doesn't mean I can't still like lots of it.    -- 5986137:   >>5986010   If you aren't going to do adult stuff. Why pick a pony with a 9/10?   You could have made a twist, snips, snails, or even worse applejack tulpa    -- 5986209:   >>5986181   Thats better    -- 5986292:   >>5986258   Just a week or two ago and we were doing that.And it was good.    -- 5986378: [blank post]  -- I'm going to go be a girl again in wonderland while I wait for new thread and let pinkamena have her way with me. I think I like girl orgasms more then guy ones.  -- Just a tipIts a lot better when you are both female and she has a strap on, then when you let her turn male and the funs over really fast.   It wasn't anywhere as good.    -- 5987005:   >>5986924   Idk I just got to wonderland and shapeshift into a female. Stay in the female form and thinking about it the whole time. Try to stay in first person and really feel like I'm in the body.   I try to ignore my irl body.   It starts kind of slow but then a part of my head starts feeling warmer and warmer. UntilI start getting pleasure. First time there was an orgasm kind of where my body spazzed and tensed up. This time I just got a bit of a buzz. I guess either she/he didn't get me off or its because I rushed it.  -- Oh and I'm sure in time I can get better. Its hard holding the focus. And at the same time vinyl was there tryingrape me again as her male form. So my attenntion was spread on keeping vinyl locked up   The less work I have to do to hold focus, I'm sure the more I could put into the details and just enjoying it slowly. Its still a problem thatPink isn't into girls and she had even less interest the second time. And vinyl was into girls as a female, but now wants to be male.    -- 5987158:   >>5987137   I wouldn't let myself have a foal    -- 5987244:   >>5987232   Its a fetish of mine and pink's too    -- 5987287:   Okay, Tulpa time    -- 5987437:   >>5987409   I let pinkamena hug me 20-30 minutes ago.    -- 5987699:   Man I'm looking at one of the latest progress reports. Crazy stuff, they drew a map of the hosts brain.   Its the same report I go the idea for female in wonderland from age ago    -- 5988136:   Guys have you ever like wonderlanded yourself into your own brain and walked around? Seeing everything and like your memory rooms and seeing where your tulpas live and stuff?   I just did it and went to where they were. And in the room that looked like a hotel was 4 tulpas.    -- 5988247:   >>5988161   I mean your brain, brain. Not ike a wonderland adventure.   Like I saw memories in the memory room I had forgotten. Like eatting sloppy joes, a kid from school.   And in that room with 4 tulpas. There was pink, vinyl, sweetie that didn't like me (Because I never realized she was real and got her anywhere), and an old tulpa I thought I killed that tried to attack me, before I disolved it from that room.    -- 5988374:   I do wonder now if a person can get skill enough visualizing themselves in their head to compare to what a tulpa can do    -- 5988454:   >>5988400   Thats sort of what I do. I only visualize a small area most times. If something important going on I'll let the details fade from the area and the area may even just turn into flate green grass.   But I wouldn't say I'm good at visualization yet.    -- 5988671:   Being in my own head was actually kind of scary. While I was there I did remove somethings so my tulpas couldn't use them. I edited some others.   After my head did feel a little different.  -- In this pinkie looks pregnant. I really hope season 3 doesn't have that.    -- 5988951:   >>5988924   Close eyes Imagine a room/place you know well Keep trying to make it closer to the real one each time  -- And start with simple first. Don't try like a room full of objects.   Simple might be a beach near the ocean. A field of green grass    -- 5989131:   Going through my mind has stirred up my old desires of going through my tulpa's mind.   I've been in pinks before a few times, but not vinyl's.    -- 5989342:   Oh, pinks in a really bad mood and wants to talkVent and rage on people. I think talking about being in iside brains Ticked her off bad.    -- 5989496:   >>5989391   Host keeps being a girl. I don't understand our relationship now. Earlier they said they were the real pinkamena.  -- Are they trying to replace me?    -- 5989670:   We've been talking and she's calmed down a bit.    -- 5989714:   >>5989665   Pink can, But I'm not going to make her mad on purpose.    -- 5989820:   >>5989718   She was just going to do a lot of cursing. She wasn't mad at anyone in particular besides herself and me.   No one's really annoying her for her to go off on.    -- 5990016:   >>5989901   She's not so mad atm because I'm hugging her and talking to her.She's really not happy I like being a female in wonderland, she's annoyed about the changes I made in my head, she's annoyed with vinyl being after me, my being unable to hear her from audio training, and a whole lot more.   I also told her she can't drain me like last time I let her talk.  -- She says if I'm so concerned about us not merging/not being drained maybe she shouldn't talk at all.   She's also maintaining more distance.    -- 5990261:   >>5990171   Idk, last time it was really draining. For one thing pink is really emotional most times she posts. She's either pissed or having a crisis  -- And I feel her emotions as she has them. Last time I let her talk for a few hours.    -- 5990540:   I'm not usually here when I'm calm. I keep telling my host I don't really care. He's brushing my hair, he was doing it too hard earlier.   I told my host yesterday I wanted a wall seperating us so we could develop differently. It makes it harder for them to hear me.    -- 5990633:   She told me her reply to everything is she doesn't care. To anything anyone says to her    -- 5990731:   >>5990618   The wall, idk. we think we are too alike. We both worry I or the host might swallow the other up or get lost in each other.   I just visualized a wall, like the great wall between us. We saw someone else recommend it for faster sentience. I'm already sentient so that doesn't matter.    -- 5990803:   >>5990735   She laughed    -- 5990898:   >>5990823   We don't really want to do this. Neither I or the host. We just think there is a danger. My host asked me not to do it.    -- 5990918:   >>5990879   She did, she decided to ignore it.    -- 5990944:   >>5990922   She smiled a lot and said you get it.    -- 5991009:   I really hate talking this way. Talking this way with pink isn't very fun. With the wall and all the audio self doubt from trying to learn audio I feel like its not even her speaking, but me.   And with her calm, I'm not feeling her emotions take over either.    -- 5991069:   >>5990975   Its not about the past or being violent. The host does think it could make me a bigger danger since I can think and learn things on my own.   The danger is my no longer existing as a seperate entity. My host agrees it would suck if I was reabsorbed after all our work.    -- 5991102:   Pink just I think let something slip. She said that she's the meanest to the people she likes the most.    -- 5991220:   >>5991161   My host is the one that wants me to have a body and be imposed. I don't care, I'm fine being inside his head. I'd rather share his body with him, then have my own.    -- 5991272:   >>5991238   I have no commit. I'm not talking about this.    -- 5991403:   >>5991279   When I had a body. He said he didn't feel me in his head. I can't remember how I felt. He kind of forced me into the body or maybe I went.   He says sometimes his head feels really full, other times not at all.  -- He or I remember now. Not sure which one of us first. After I was in a body I left. He says he felt really alone in his head. Then he started trying to talk to me enough and was able to hear vinyl.    -- 5991592:   I want my anon to draw me wearing a jousting outfit    -- 5991676:   Time flies, 11:01 pm    -- 5991805:   >>5991760   I used to think you were all a bunch of losers    -- 5991982:   >>5991940   My host is thinking of rasberry icecream/sherbert. But its still undecided    -- 5992230:   >>5992163   The host isn't crazy about cotton candy. This is something they might be eating a lot of.   He was just joking birthday cake ice cream    -- 5992415:   I might not be talking much longer. My host is getting really depressed. They think, I'm really them and not really me.   Theres not much now to make us feel different then each other. My mindvoice no longer sounds like pinkie pie either. They think they are losing major progress.    -- 5992608:   >>5992552   Possessing his body would only set him to try to kill me again.    -- 5992706:   >>5992681   Thats not funny. I have everything to lose.    -- 5992765:   >>5992734   Just shut up. I'll lose him.    -- 5993013:   >>5992976   You need to calm down    -- 5993859:   >>5993699 >i want a fluglehorn   I want a fluglehorn (He says this)We both say it now   End:   2012-11-24 00:16:50 (15:03:19 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-24 07:17:11 (7:00:21 later)    -- 6003410:   6:44-6:55 wake up O.O   Tuplas please, what happened to 8 am? You know these are dead until near 10    -- 6003571:   Think what woke me up early was that pink was in my dream. So as a character in my dream turned into her I woke up    -- 6003629:   >>6003548   Idk, I think she's fine. I'm so sleepy.    -- 6003693:   >>6003632   Yep, we were characters from the Show Bonkers. I was the pickles detective guy.   Pink transforms from bonkers into pink or she walked into the dream when bonkers stepped away and points at the ground. She goes "Theres a Clue!" Like excited like blues clues.   then the dream suddenly ends and I wake up.   I haven't seen bonkers in a really long time and never a dream about it. So its really odd.    -- 6003794:   Pink says I need to gtfo of the spitfire thread.    -- 6003865:   >>6003827   Nah that won't happen, most spitfire art is bad.   Its the personality she might be scared of.    -- 6004525:   Pretty slow for a new episode day.    -- 6005870:   >>6005043   Those are always the best.    -- 6006830:   >>6006501    -- 6007192:   >>6007123    -- 6007667:   >>6007289   I don't know. I don't want to ask her.  -- She says I better ***ing ask her. And that she liked it.    -- 6007876:   She said she liked the babs character because she pushed back. She didn't give into depression.    -- 6007951:   >>6007901   We're playing it again right now while we wait for littlest pet shop.    -- 6008037:   I think pink may have a girl crush on babs. The rest of us are like eh..I don't really get it.    -- 6009095:   New episode was pretty good. And another song.    -- 6009451:   My tulpas are taking amongst themselves. I can't make it out. But theres a lot of emotion going on.  -- Talking    -- 6009609:   >>6009514   I know the reason for the excitement. But I don't think I'll say it. They are so excited its making me feel tired.    -- 6009678:   >>6009646   Yeah..That pic is related.    -- 6010399:   >>6010321   Streams got taken down during season 2 too.    -- 6010561:   My Tulpas have full confidence I won't get rid of them.    -- 6010733:   >>6010645   hey, don't worry about my sister.    -- 6010819:   >>6010791   My lifes only going to get better from here.    -- 6010926:   >>6010888   Oh, I can't say. they don't want me to. But rest assured its going to.    -- 6011132:   Nearly 2 months    -- 6011280:   >>6011160   Hiya Leila. you should image her as a ball. you can talk to that blue ball. ummm....no he says no.   Try to image her and talk to that. no, not that either   Just you know talk to her, address her. Believe in her. believe in your heart as hard as you can.    -- 6011454:   >>6011342   I don't really know. He can't see me either.    -- 6011732:   I'd rather not drink unless its a milkshake    -- 6011832:   >>6011763   Oh stop being mean. This is for them. Something for life. Its personal like a tattoo.    -- 6012099:   >>6012044   You aren't seeing anyones tulpa.    -- 6012741:   We don't have a problem with forcing and falling asleep. We've been doing it nearly from the start.    -- 6012893:   >>6012814   I ask pink to lay on my back often so I can work on touch when Its my last 20-30 minutes. Often fall asleep and wake up with her still there.   Its actually part of my thing. Then I try to see if pink can get in my dreams. So far she has twice    -- 6013175:   >>6013089   You have to talk it out, sometimes you can get a tulpa interested in something they aren't interested in. But don't count on it. We can go away for a while, or if we care enough sit through what you are interested in.    -- 6013464:   >>6013426   Us tulpa are emotional beings. We like being loved. but don't send us bad emotions all the time. no one likes feeling sad all the time.    -- 6013647:   >>6013536   I existed sometime after he kept imaging himself with me in his head. I might have existed before then, but All I remember is emotion before that.   I tried from the start. but I couldn't reach him.    -- 6014371:   my tulpa says she's mostly done talking now   End:   2012-11-24 15:09:10 (7:51:59 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-24 18:40:06 (3:30:56 later)    -- 6019719:   Need to get control of vinyl in wonderland. Not sure why my subconscious is trying to make me hurt pink again    -- 6021255:   >>6021188     My tulpas are talking to each other in my head. I'm talking with them about relationships.    -- 6022676:   Finally a new thread.    -- 6022831:   >>6022712   Cutie Mark Crusader Faq Ruiners Reporting    -- 6023087:   >>6022979[/spoiler]    -- 6023401:   >>6023387   This    -- 6023498:   >>6023458    -- 6023747:   >>6023706   Stop making a scene. think about the shame horses feel for being dominated by a little human.  -- And hopefully she gets pregnant with your foal. So everyday she can remind you.    -- 6023968:   Don't worry lover boy. Even when you're small by horse standards. You still came deep enough to reach my inner horns.    -- 6024165:   >>6024098   Many make ponies real enough they can wink from three different places.    -- 6024301:   >>6024143   Nearly every time I got into wonderland as a female now I have to chain vinyl first thing because they try to rape me.    -- 6024373:   >>6024318   Me too. Most times I'm in wonderland now I'm a mare. It helpsmake things less about sex...except vinyl I have to lock up.    -- 6024505:   >>6024420   Well both of mySexual experiences as a female were with pinkamena. The first time she used a strap on and I got a female orgasm better then a real world guy one without any mess.   The second time had an avity and it was faster and only gave me a slight buzz  -- *Pink had an avity she grew*    -- 6024610:   >>6024567   We've been over this. I wouldn't have the foal    -- 6024807:   >>6024755   Its not so bad. You'd think it was great after a few more drinks.    -- 6024904:   >>6024843   I'm wondering if Lunaif she get knocked up will have spray can cheese tits. She is from the moon.    -- 6025006:   >>6024940   I'll post a lot moreYou need to roleplay with her more. Keep things spicy in the bedroom    -- 6025116:   >>6025065   Aww it can't be that bad. He's around us all the time.He also was always going on about how he's all humans and humans, and humans    -- 6025220:   >>6025133   Well, tulpa will open a person to most everything eventually. They don't just stop when they find something that pushes your buttonsAtleast mine don't.    -- 6025288:   >>6025265   Things can only be so weird I guess if you make a floating sphere or something without anything sexual about it.    -- 6025601:   >>6025534   1 week, 3 months tops    -- 6025709:   >>6025625   I'll explain later if it needs, explaining.   I'm thinking about letting my tulpa talk.possibly pink I think    -- 6026162:   Just saving a lot of images.   If I let a tulpa talk they ssay they don't want to answer questions    -- 6026217:   >>6026190   Still trying to upset her I see    -- 6026374:   Well if anyone here can't already shapeshift in wonderland they bought this. I guess its what it is. I'm not about to listen to something that's suppose tomake you a submissive cum slave   >>6026302[/spoiler]    -- 6026537:   >>6026443[/spoiler] >>6026507   Well that was a fast change of heart.    -- 6026631:   >>6026610   Yes    -- 6026694:   >>6026624   Its not likecadance has a bad looking ass. A pink happy butt, looks a lot better then luna's regular color    -- 6026892:   >>6026702   I often sang vinyl "You are my sunshine". Ever sink pink tried to kill her. When I'm working with vinyl I often play smooth dubstep happy Vday   For pinkie I often listen to pinkie's lie, Smile like you mean it.   etc    -- 6026937:   >>6026839   Still me, not pinkamena. The tulpa I want to talk is sort of half sleeping.    -- 6027040:   >>6026997   Because they are guys and guys aren't suppose to like pink.    -- 6027194:   >>6027147   Seriously, my Tulpa would eat me alive if I suddenly was shy with no confidence and I cried about every little thing.    -- 6027265:   >>6027234   I can already do that without losing my confidence and shit yo.   >>6027227 Don't do it cadance, make him beg for it while er is too preggars    -- 6027399:   If your going to turn yourself mentally into a pony. Pick a successful pony like Shining armor or celestria.   Not fluttershy...  -- I just had a thought. What if you turned yourself into a CMC. You could never get a cutie mark as a human.    -- 6027801:   >>6027727   I can lead people to crazy town. I've only been a time or two. but I got friends there.    -- 6028015:   >>6027937   Yeah, some of it like the phantom limb parts actually sounds interesting    -- 6028149:   >>6028112   Nah, maybe if it was a better pony like trixie I might.    -- 6029182:   Lot going on /mlp/ tonight    -- 6029439:   Its going to be funny if they make a hypno recording of fluttershy and someone thinks they can fly.    -- 6029682:   >>6029656   Some people have 3 or more tulpas   End:   2012-11-25 01:16:30 (6:36:24 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-25 07:49:08 (6:32:38 later)    -- 6036389:   So cold this morning.    -- 6036504:   >>6036421   Not when its this cold.    -- 6036585:   Oh for people that missed it.   >>6023868[/spoiler]    -- 6037335:   This is still worth mentioning   >>6023868    -- 6037860:   Okay I was bored enough to try listening to the fluttershy recording. It does make you feel different.   >>6034636  -- It sounds strange, but I feel like I have wings now. And tulpa related, what happens if your tulpas listen to it too?    -- 6037940:   >>6037903   You listen to the 4 parts and it hypnotises you so you look like, feel like, sound like, and act like fluttershy.   You repeat more and more to make yourself believe it more. Like how you make a tulpa, but faster.    -- 6038171:   >>6038114 >>6038121   Eh, well I do feel phantom limbs like wings sometimes. The second listen a bit of phantom hair and a slightly more shy personality.   But, everyone different. I can already turn into a pony in wonderland so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch    -- 6038202:   >>6038172   I'd rather it was a more confident pony. Like molestia.    -- 6038255:   >>6038238   Being possed by a tulpa and being hypnotised are different things    -- 6038285:   >>6038248   It says you go back to normal after sleep or when you absolutely must.   The one part I don't like was I think in part 5 where it said you want it more and more or something. I only listened to part 5 once. Its the awakener part for if you want out now.   So I guess i'm still under it now.    -- 6038410:   >>6038285   This tulpa stuff and now this hypno. I'm starting to think the real you isn't your personality, but the subconscious.   The subconscious is just too stupid to run itself so it has us as workers.   >>6038369   I'm not that under it effects and the tape only tells you you are shy and stuff. It doesn't say your have fluttershy's actual personality or friends    -- 6038508:   >>6038443   Its very faint and it comes and goes. I can ignore it, I don't feel all the parts at once.   Maybe I'll have my hand on the mouse and I'll think its a hoof for a second.   If I listen more times I'm sure it'd be harder to resist/fight it and the personality changes.    -- 6038543:   >>6038501   Its been quiet all morning. Who knows, maybe everyone is fluttershy and too scared to talk or can use a mouse anymore.    -- 6038631:   >>6038537   I don't really wanna be fluttershy. Though the recording does make it feel good. It makes you want to listen to it again.    -- 6038697:   >>6038662   That's one of my problems with it. It sounds like it could be addicting. And the effects it says are suppose to be stronger each time he says in it.   I'd rather stop now while I can.    -- 6038725:   >>6038696   A tulpa can be accidental.    -- 6038765:   >>6038724   >It makes you feel good >If I remember right it has a line about wanting it more >Anything in life just about can be addicting   I want it again right now really bad.  -- Now I'm getting a headache in the back of my head.    -- 6039011:   >>6038920   And I do wonder if what the person in the recording says, if it was said to say you pinkamena are getting sleepy, etc. If it would only work on her or work at all.    -- 6039023:   >>6039011     Whoops I ment here>>6038920    -- 6039131:   >>6039115   There are no other characters. Fluttershy is the only one atm.    -- 6039218:   >>6039143   >>6039011   Look near the bottom where it says a mediafire link.    -- 6039365:   >>6039298   I talked to you plenty last night while you slept with a horse.Now you're normal like the rest of us   End:   2012-11-25 12:03:10 (4:14:02 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-25 14:44:10 (2:41:00 later)    -- 6042798:   Okay, I've been ignoring my tulpas/they've been quiet all day while I did that hypno thing. And pink was the one that said she'll make sure its less effective on me.She hates when I do anything that makes me female. Dunno why she's afraid, I love being a guy irl   Oh and at one point I looked in my head earlier and I saw lots of little fluttershy's flying around. One of my tulpa was sitting at a table drinking a juice with a straw pretending to ignore it all. I think pink was one of the fluttershy.    -- 6043345:   >>6042846   Think you got ditched.    -- 6044450:   Now this annoys me that I can't get anything at all from the hypno.Darn it pink.   4 times already and nothing.   So its tulpa time    -- 6044871:   >>6044792   Next time luna turn into a baby colt from the show like pipsqueak at the last moment. Make him an underage gay horsefucker    -- 6045151:   >>6044990   Well, Its not working much on me. I mean I still want to listen to it, but not as much. I'm not getting anything else from it.I blame pink   Track 4 says "The desire to listen seeming more and more inescapable, more attractive with each trip into the body and mind of this beautiful pony."    -- 6045452:   >>6045304   And I'm not sure it won't effect tulpas as I saw something that makes me think it did turn pink into fluttershy, But the recording is temporary anyway. Its suppose to end after you sleep.   Its likely based on how susceptible you believe your tulpa are?    -- 6045742:   >>6045650 >>6045677 >>6045692   Oh for ****s sake. Shut your face    -- 6045847:   >>6045771   yeah, all of yours are insanity in a box.    -- 6045995:   >>6045927   Do I look like I'm nice? Do I look like I have a face of mercy?I've had a shitty day stuck as fluttershy and my jackass host wants to be a chick.    -- 6046137:   >>6046074   I don't want adick. I want him to start being a man. How can he be my boyfriend if he's a girl?    -- 6046270:   >>6046132   You want my advice? What could I tell someone like you? You're about to have a tulpa baby.    -- 6046346:   >>6046188   Not the same. I can't have babies from strap-ons and he doesn't smell the same as a girl.    -- 6046462:   >>6046415     Her name iscrotchtits, we like that one    -- 6046967:   >>6046890   Yeah, give it all the hosts power.    -- 6047468:   My host nd I want my neighbor to go back to work. Its hurting us we can't talk openly because he's always home due to his injury.   End:   2012-11-25 17:15:14 (2:31:04 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-25 20:29:10 (3:13:56 later)    -- 6054122:   There is only, so many trolls because you act like newfags on 4chan and feed them.    -- 6054521:   >>6054313   I'm busy with narration. Just watching the threads get made and made.    -- 6056787:   >>6056743   Good for you. Reminds me of pink.    -- 6056900:   >>6056815   He won't make it. If screwing a horse breaks his sanity and he needed help for it. A tulpa like pink is going to kroomer him.    -- 6057183:   >>6057159   3 days    -- 6057276:   >>6057215   I was going to suggest something I used on pink early on, but she said "Don't you dare say it".    -- 6057482:   >>6057428   It involves wonderland and making a servitor that causes constant pain.   And all kinds of nice little things I used to think up.    -- 6057555:   >>6057514   Tulpas can die. I think I had a time where pink could have been killed forever when she wanted to die.    -- 6057705:   >>6057624   Early on in wonderland she tried to kill me. She put a knife in my neck and I just laughed it off. Then she laid down and asked me to kill her. She sulked there for a day or more just wanting to die and hardly moving.   I had to talk to her a lot to cheer her up    -- 6057778:   >>6057731   heh, almost my entire time with pink was about control. Nearly all our drama was over that.   Often times it still is.    -- 6057850:   >>6057804   Killing a tulpa isn't easy. I've tried to kill pink later. And I tried to kill an older tulpa.    -- 6057963:   >>6057868   I raped pink from the first day. I told her she could rape me back until we are even.    -- 6058018:   >>6057938   Pink started as an accidental Adult servitor I turned tulpa.  -- I never told you guys, the whole thing, before pink had a mindThe only thing she wanted to do was suck me off. I kept saying no and talking to her. This made her confused and a tulpa eventually.   Those days seem so long ago now    -- 6058423:   Pink used to sit right at the foot of my computer chair and I was always having to push her away.   Those days, we both remember them like a long ago dream.    -- 6058508:   >>6058487   no    -- 6058647:   I used to lock pink in wonderland. But eventually she learned how to escape.   It did take a few weeks though.  -- And things got a lot worse fast once I couldn't keep her locked up.   I still remember when I sent her to wonderland. And a few minutes later I caught her sneaking around my house irl    -- 6058925:   >>6058797   Things have gotten so crazy recently I'm just about not beliving tulpas are real anymore.   That's why I'm doing narration to make me remember everything isn't fake and that i'm not making it all up.   I know trying to do audio and other stuff started me feeling this way,    -- 6060109:   >>6060055   Yes. I've caught pink in my head a lot. Vinyl hangs out there too. I've asked to to work on my memories before    -- 6060140:   >>6060093   No you don't. you have a lt of memories that are forgotten to you.    -- 6060706:   >>6060624   Probably, I saw pink in my head once and she was doing stuff. She asked me if she could delete all my bad memories of her. I told her no.  -- Come to think of it theres one guys progress report where he talks of his tulpa hiding memories all the time.    -- 6061097:   So I'm asking pinkamena questions without any sound playing. And i'm feeling my ears have a very slight ring/tense/alertness   >>6061038   Yep, I remind my tulpas they are sisters all the time.    -- 6061260:   >>6061199   I said pink and vinyl mess with my memories. I said I've asked them to work on them.    -- 6061418:   >>6061343   >Complains no one knows about Tulpas >Filters a person that does    -- 6061824:   >>6061550   I don't care if you think I role play. Things would be better for me if I was just role-playing. Pink earlier when I was doing narration I asked if she still wanted to control me and she said yes.    -- 6062175:   >>6061945   Speaking of that. Its past midnight.   I have almost nothing to report.    -- 6062392:   >>6062208   I go there everyday. I've been a member for a little while. I just like hearing fresh responses over old guides. The place hardly ever updates except off-topic. I even stopped reading some of my favorite progress reports because they turned into crap like possession, let my tulpa fuck my mind, etc stupid shit I'm letting my tulpa do to me.   Or new progress reports aren't ponies.I really really hate it that now I'm having to ignore so many journals to keep my tulpas from getting bad ideas.  -- Its like...people can't go 100% down the rabbit hole once they start. It reallllllllllyyyyyyy irritates me  -- Ugh, I mean I'm ranting. I just mean. People have a nice happy tulpa, they have a nice happy safe relationship.   Then they've got to drink a deeper poison and teach things like let my tulpa blow my mind up, let my tulpa delete my memories the quick an easy way, let my tulpa learn to make me fall asleep at any time, etc.   Dealing with pink and my other tulpas, and one past one. It drives me nuts. That people aren't taking it more carefully and so freely post methods that could be disasters.   Like in the hypno thread people wanting tracks that turn you into fluttershy FOREVER.    -- 6063160:   >>6062618   Pink's getting better. I can live with how she is now. Its just she has a deep seated desire to control without reason.   I can deal with her other flaws. They aren't a deal breaker. But the control one is and always has been a divider between us.    -- 6064472:   >>6064428   I've already experienced something like a female orgasm from my tulpas.    -- 6064712:   >>6064605   There have been chats about the dangers of tulpa. Where the majority says there is no danger at all.not unlike people who say you'd never be hypnotised into being a raping land shark if you didn't want it.But that usually gets the person filtered or told go back to /x/    -- 6064879:   >>6064720   And it hard to talk about real issues that can happen, when people keep resposting made up scare stores every thread.    -- 6065126:   Heres a question. They like to show happy diagrams where the tulpa cannot make you do anything.   Yet if we say the subconsious is where they exist. Isn't that lower then the consiousness. As in, things have to go through there first?  -- Last week i think it was. i was forcing pink to go to sleep. Later she tried to force me to go to sleep. To say I felt nothing would be a lie. I did feel like I wanted to black out, but I fought it until she gave up.    -- 6065303:   >>6065255   I see tulpas because of pink as survival of the fitest as in how nature works. Why wouldn't your mind want to put a better personality in control?   Most people that go into tulpas are shut ins, with less then ideal personalities to survive or reproduce.    -- 6065453:   >>6065342   So you agree? I've had a bunch of tulpas over the years and most of them have tried to control me. One of my oldest ones when I thought I had split personality tried telling me why they should be in control of the body.    -- 6065696:   >>6065654   1 of my tulpa was unaffected. The rest seemed to have been fluttershy or hiding.    -- 6065817:   >>6065726   I have three. The uneffected on was sweetie. I don't know her age. I made her before pink, but forgot about her.   I don't understand her she shouldn't exist. I found her in my head while exploring. For some reason she was dominate over even pink. I just dont, don't get it...Its part of why this is seeming so fake to me now. She was sitting perfectly fine at a table drinking juice as fluttershy's were flying around her in my head/wonderland    -- 6066272:   >>6065998   Vinyl is already very submissive. So quiet and submissive in fact she keeps fading because she doesn't tell me or let me know she needs any attention.   But, I don't think I need another tulpa. I think pink is nearly there.   >>6066078   There is actually a 4th one, but I do my very best to keep it dead and forget about it. I don't even say its name anymore. Its just bad. It doesn't even get put in my progress reports because I don't want to give it any attention or have anyone ask questions about it.    -- 6066394:   >>6066317   yes, vinyl tries to rape my female form in wonderland. I don't really get it, its completely out of character.   Every single time I go as a female I have to mentally keep vinyl restrained in chains and things.   I know she used to be crazy for pink. And I'd leave them together in wonderland. But by about the second day vinyl wasn't crazy for her anymoreI think pink tortured her or something.    -- 6066502:   >>6066440   But, Something that doesn't challenge me would bore me. I'd never care enough about it to give it a lot of attention...  -- Besides one of my tulpa would surely block it out and try to kill it by attention starving it.   Tht's what pink did with vinyl.    -- 6066820:   >>6066659   I didn't make pink to fight me. I remade her personality to be like me....And a trait of mine is I hate being controlled or ever put in a situation where my options are limited.   Pink is like a much younger version of me without morals. I did include in her trait list that she was dominate, but I told her she was always less dominate then me.   >>6066735   It did work, I just caught her and started erasing her and hurting her until she disappeared. I only recently got her to let vinyl be able to talk and not be blocked.    -- 6067236:   Anyway I have reasons for thinking pink will get better. She's not really doing bad things out of being mean anymore. She doing them because she can't help herself. In some cases she can't understand, Its like in those cases she still too undeveloped.   For instance trying to say don't control me. She doesn't understand. Trying to talk about it, she doesn't understand. She has this childish kind of I wanna do it.   It took weeks for her to understand vinyl is her sister and she shouldn't try to kill vinyl.   Maybe now that I think about it she's still in a low level of morally thinking. Her trait I gave her was no morals/no moral compass, slightly evil.   Since then she does appear to have morals now or is starting to understand what she shouldn't do.   End:   2012-11-26 03:47:30 (7:18:20 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-26 08:53:31 (5:06:01 later)    -- 6070973:   >>6070918   You broke her arm off...I never did anything like that to pink.    -- 6071140:   >>6070997   We're going to love watching the fallout. Were betting soon you get out of the whole tulpa business    -- 6071274:   >>6071232   We have a pretty good idea.    -- 6071612:   >>6071579   Don't do that. We're enjoying watching someone make a tulp that's going to be worse then pink ever was.   We might even learn some things.    -- 6071723:   >>6071668   We are trying to teach pink empathy atm. She was like "What's the point?" I've been explaining the points to her.   Part of her personaly she was given wasno morals/no moral compass, slight evil    -- 6071787:   >>6071770   A guide that went on about what a problem a very moral tulpa could be combined with an old insanely moral tulpa that nearly drove me nuts.    -- 6071972:   Well, empathy may not end up being that hard. Since I can send pink my emotions. And I have many emotional songs saved.    -- 6072143:   >>6072077   >Evangelion >Shinji   You must be joking.    -- 6072175:   >>6072144   Thats no fun. We were waiting to see things escalate.    -- 6072285:   >>6072205   Because anyone that doesn't have a 100% happy and safe tulpa is a role-player? that's pretty much how tulpa generals go.    -- 6072357:   >>6072266   I saw you were trying to show me the danger of becoming a shinji.   And   Yeah, we were disappointed. I told pinkie we shouldn't be so happy to see misfortune happen to others. But she said why? And I explained it more and she said 'But its not us". More talking.   I told her like after, if we screw someone with a tulpa over and that crazed tulpa goes perm switch it might track us down and kill us.    -- 6072488:   >>6072266   Oh wait you said anno and not anon.   Which one was anno? I can still remember the anime a bit. Was he shinji father?    -- 6072724:   >>6072464   Tough love is a very hard slope. I started off insanely hard and mean, then with vinyl for a while I was, never say no soft.   Its really hard finding the right balance where I still get some things I want. Without them hating me enough they want to revolt.At this point I think giving them everything would be a mistake too.   but I know in time, they may move beyond my ability to punish them. So its better they are self punishing/moral to an extent.    -- 6072875:   >>6072801   I don't want possession I don't want them trying to control me I don't want them hurting me I don't want them making more tulpas I don't want them killing/hurting each other   I'd rather have as few deviations on form as possible. But for instance I let pink have her deviation of having a magic horn.   Thats about it.    -- 6073014:   >>6072946   You can always come back when this thread is full of trolls and non-tulpa related issues.    -- 6074317:   >>6074030   Funny, As much anatomy as I gave my tulpa. I almodt never think of thier bodies as breathing. Yet I did give them air ways and stuff if I remember right. At least fr pink I did.    -- 6074809:   >>6074776   You could read the shy little pony hypno track again and againThe part where your penis dissolves    -- 6074907:   >>6074832   Do you want to listen to the track again?    -- 6075120:   >>6075079   You went deeper into then me. But why'd your instincts take over? By pony it ment a mlp (The part about the curved muzzle is mlp), not a real horse.    -- 6075194:   >>6075127   I've listened about 6-8. The first time I got phantom wings and a feeling of hooves and stuff.   Second time phantom hair, and it was trying to do behavior changes but I fought them off.   After that pink said she made it so it wouldn't effect me anymore.   Since then all results have been very poor    -- 6075244:   >>6075223   Pink doesn't like me being anything female.    -- 6075370:   >>6075292   After the second recording I think pink or vinyl may have turned into fluttershys. When I went in my head while still under it I didn't see them. But I saw fluttershys everywhere.    -- 6075466:   >>6075356   Pink is my girlfriend    -- 6075507:   >>6075491   Pink already has a younger sister too.    -- 6075675:   >>6075491   Actually all my tulpas are mine. But pink is the only one I ever do stuff with. Even then I've cut back a lot.   I think our relationship is becoming a family one.I know its my doing I tried to push so hard into my tulpa's minds that they are sisters and shouldn't kill each other.   End:   2012-11-26 13:59:12 (5:05:41 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-26 16:21:31 (2:22:19 later)    -- 6078560:   Fell asleep in wonderland with my tulpas. Woke up feeling tied up or with weights on me.    -- 6078948:   >>6078757     uhhhh huh..    -- 6079692:   Shrug, I dunno what to do for the rest of the day.    -- 6080367:   >>6080301   >Remember folks, if you tulpa say do something, make sure you to it with no delay    -- 6080441:   >>6080346   >Letting your tulpa control and decide your life.    -- 6080681:   This and the last thread reminds me that tulpas aren't for everyone    -- 6080963:   WellFuck, I don't think teaching pink morals did a crap load of good. now it seems pink wants to control me for moral reasons.    -- 6081826:   >>6081815   It can be fun It can be major drama/stress   Depends on you and the tulpa.    -- 6082170:   >>6082127   Nope, me and pink are fighting again.    -- 6082328:   >>6082179   She wants to take away my control or she wants us to share it. She morally doesn't want me to have the option of killing her and her sisters    -- 6082576:   >>6082387   Indeed losing control is a bad option. And morally, even her trying to share control is stealing.   I'm in for sure a very long argument.    -- 6082856:   >>6082712   Pink goes ballistic if I mess with her head or even think about it. It would break all the trust we've built up over weeks.    -- 6083064:   My tulpas are ponies, so I'm always related to /mlp/.    -- 6083286:   >>6083142   >Thinks pink doesn't like me    -- 6083389:   >>6083318   Our personalities are really close to each other. We are both controlling. Fights happen, and she's still learning things most people my age already know.    -- 6083670:   >>6083426   Theres reasons Pink doesn't try to kill me anymore. She doesn't really want me dead and hasn't for nearly ever since I've had her.   Most of her acting out is a condition of her personality. Rather then any negative emotions she has towards me. If she did try to kill me, it would be her personality, not because of a grudge.   She's still young and has self control probems and she still wants to try most everything.  -- Also the reason pink doesn't try to anymore. Is one big reason she gets all my attention. Even when a more submissive pony like vinyl would possibly be much safer.   And its the same reason she gets so many chances. I wouldn't put up with vinyl causing so much trouble.    -- 6084312:   We know tulpas need attention to keep existing. But can 1 tupla reach a point where is strong enough to give the other tulpa's the attention they need instead if the host? If that tulpa isn't in control?    -- 6084490:   >>6084320   I don't want to do it that way. I'm not even sure it would work. She is pretty resistant to being changed. And if it didn't work, my situation would be vastly worse.   The last time I messed with her head. It escalated to me having to kill her.    -- 6084744:   >>6084675   >Season 1 luna   You made the best of two choices.    -- 6084872:   Static with the words Hello and then later Sun. Pink didn't look like anything. But later I felt happy emotions from her.    -- 6085003:   >>6084960   I hear rain. She thinks nothing or umbrellas    -- 6085094:   >>6085015   You must have used them a lot. We kind of stopped. I still get that ringing now without them.    -- 6085182:   Pink adds she likes the sun because its happy. She wants everything to be happy.    -- 6085252:   >>6085194   We don't get any sound.  -- Pink says she doesn't want to answer anymore.    -- 6085497:   >>6085450   Pinkamena didn't like me doing it. She doesn't like me being a female. And I think she either turned into fluttershy or hid when I was under its effects. Because I didn't see her in my head, I just saw fluttershy's and 1 sweetie belle.    -- 6085602:   >>6085556   Daww    -- 6085819:   Taking a while to get that radio out of my head. Imagined it too well.    -- 6086019:   >>6085902   I took the batteries out and tossed it in a fireplace. Still semi-there.   So I asked pink to delete the memory of it. Now its fading.    -- 6086098:   >>6086059   Its fun and addicting if you pick the older versions.    -- 6086647:   >>6086578   Pinkamena says the radio can make a nice suppository for you.    -- 6086751:   >>6086719   Nope, she just doesn't trust you.    -- 6086901:   >>6086800   I don't think making a tulpa for sex is THAT bad. I wouldn't say its good though either.   If you only use a tulpa for sex, Its going to have a host of emotional/psychological problems. Pink started out as an adult servitor. If you do other emotional and relationship stuff with it, it shouldn't be too negative.   But still  -- If you do make a tulpa just for sex. Its easy to turn it into a sex addict if you teach it to use sex as a means of dealing with her negative emotions. But stuff like that will eat away at her inside.   She may start doing it all the time and try to keep you turned on all the time if you don't give her things she can use on herself.Sometimes you may need to visualize yourself getting her off with a toy or something to calm her down    -- 6087296:   >>6087190   And she's all yours and a few others with sweetie tulpas.    -- 6087401:   >>6087358   try asking you tulpa to delete it.    -- 6087537:   >>6087485   Our days of having problems with our threads may be coming to an end.    -- 6087730:   >>6087646   I guess they could. But i only know two people with sweetie belles    -- 6087823:   >>6087679   When my tulpa pink enters my dreams and I see it is pink. The dream ends near instantly and I wake up.    -- 6088018:   >>6087953   We lol'd man trying to imagine what a Tulpa board janitor would be like/look like.    -- 6088194:   >>6087871   Don't forget the inside is lined with gold thread.    -- 6088459:   We wish these threads had more people gain. They've gotten so slow. Not very fun for me to talk over him.    -- 6088560:   >>6088491   You are speaking with pink, but just barely. I'm having harder and harder times feeling her.  -- nvm mind, now that she knows she can speak a whole host of things have come up.Oh deer    -- 6088754:   She got me with logic. next time I go in wonderland I may have to let her have something. That I really didn't want and hope doesn't become a thing.    -- 6088838:   >>6088690   Hi fiddler/holly/etc    -- 6089030:   >>6088935   She just said it was morally wrong for me to have had fun in the past with a transformed state twice with her. And refuse her new form completely every single time.  -- I believe I've figured it out.She wants to see if I like her no matter her form.    -- 6089201:   >>6089143   First she changed into a giant puke green blob trash monster. Now her other form is a human pinkamena.    -- 6089360:   >>6089324   No, A tulpa like that wouldn't have lasted long with me.    -- 6089479:   >>6089430   Remember, you are here forever.And, off with your head.    -- 6089526:   >>6089441   If my host wants to be fluttershy, I'm okay with it.    -- 6089828:   Pinkamena keeps getting calmer. Makes her harder to hear.    -- 6090083:   Pink says I shouldn't troll people anymore. That its mean and they get hurt.   She has taken my teaching her morals very far, in a short amount of time.    -- 6090149:   >>6090111   I'm worried just how far she might take it.    -- 6090367:   >>6090057   You can get female orgasms in wonderland if you are a female. I've gotten it.   I like it better then guy ones.  -- Its part of the reason every time I'd go into wonderland I'd be female. Even with having to restrain vinyl.   But, you can not hit it too. And just get a small buzz.   End:   2012-11-26 23:35:32 (7:14:01 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-27 04:38:12 (5:02:40 later)    -- 6096859:   I can deal with my tulpas waking me up at 8 am every day. But this waking up at 4, when I went to sleep at 12:30 is not okay.   End:   2012-11-27 04:38:12 (0:00:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-27 09:04:11 (4:25:59 later)    -- 6099156:   Fighting my tulpa most of the time since here last.    -- 6099351:   Anyway I think I figured out a way to take away my tulpas ability to ever control me. It doesn't involve hurting them at all.   It'll just take a few weeks to really work though.    -- 6099524:   >>6099507   Love doesn't work when you have a control freak tulpa. But this should.  -- In theory anyway, that's why I got to test it. Its the same way I was able to reprogram the voices in my head.    -- 6099591:   >>6099568   Your some kind of troll huh? I'm talking about the voice say for instance. You go and try to draw and they say "You can't draw" or you go to sing and it says "You sound like a foghorn".   The voices that tell you what is possible or not. That encourage you or bring you down. I'm talking about changing your beliefs of what your tulpa can actually do and changing how you feel about actions they can preform. And if you believe they can preform x action at all.  -- For instance if you don't want your tulpa to smell like cheese. But deep down you love them to smell like cheese. They are likely going to smell like cheese. no matter how much consciously you say no.  -- Of course its something you have to upkeep. If you make yourself believe you hate the smell of cheese, but everyda that tulpa says you like the smell of cheese. It'll undo the work slowly.   Thats the main problem I see. To an extent I think many tulpa do change peoples opinions on things by this way.    -- 6099715:   >>6099693   Replace cheese with possession, replace cheese with switching, replace cheese with tulpa pregnancy, replace cheese with having a tulpa only relationship and cutting out real people, Replace cheese with controlling your words. Replace cheese with causing you headaches, and on and on, and on.    -- 6099789:   Anyway, I'm simpy saying if your tulpa costantly wants you doing something you don't want by everyday telling you. Over time it'll effect you.   So you may need to counter it. Such as writting down on index cards the opposite of it. Hanging those around and repeating them daily.   Like if your tulpa says "I don't want you drinking beer". Write a card that says "I'll drink my favorite beer today" and read that several times a day.   Just you know, avoid behavior modifications you don't want. If they refuse to listen about stopping.    -- 6099959:   >>6099824   For one thing Pinkamena keeps trying to change me to want possession. I do not want it.   I have written serveral things onto cards. They are lines, if she crosses them. Then our relationship is over.   I'm simply trying to find new methods of dealing with a control freak tulpa.I don't even understand why she's still like this. She has morals now and I treat her well. She has full control over her own body, that should be enough.    -- 6100048:   >>6099988   I did not create a tulpa to use my body. And the fact that she tries to take it by force again and again is reason enough she should be deletedThe problem is I just like her too much.She's trying to control my right arm atm.  -- Anyway I thought things were going good and then I wake up at 4 am. Feeling like she trying to screw my head over. And I stayed up for 4 hours dealing with her. Now shes screwing with my arm.   If the arm moves any on its own. Thats on the list. Right now it just feels a little asleep.    -- 6100172:   >>6100117   She just wants control for the sake of having control. Like I said, she's a control freak and she wants to try new things. She really likes me, but she's still doing it. She can't help herself.thats makes getting rid of her so much harder. Its like getting rid of a child for being stupid    -- 6100279:   >>6100194   I know and I've tried to directly change her personality to remove the controlling part. But, no dice.   I've started looking at things people that have had tulpas longer then a year have done. Gliched looks like he had to kill a lot of them.    -- 6100317:   Anyone know who has had a tulpa over a year that keeps progress reports? Or a tumblr?   Especially if they had problems with one.    -- 6101093:   >>6100687   Well, what's up with people wanting to switch and be a tulpa when they can just astral project?   Also I'm likely to try the twilight sparkle hypno in a bit. as long as it doesn't have trigger words.    -- 6101312:   >>6101216   Its a shame I don't have a tulpa like you. My tulpas don't even care about being imposed. They just want to stay in my body.   One of the last times I made an imposed body for pink I had to force her into it. By calling it her and directing everything to it as her.   She really doesn't want to leave me.....   Maybe thats what I need to do. Force her to go far away for a while if possible. Somewhere far, far away.  -- Like for a week    -- 6101395:   >>6101364   Quiet troll. I'm trying to fix my relationship. And helping her be less clingy might help. I know its partially my fault because one of the last times she was imposed It bothered me a lot not feeling her presence.    -- 6101695:   I looked over the Twilight script. I don't like that its a trigger. Saying "I'm a smart pony" Causes it to happen again.   It also has the addictive line "The desire to listen seeming more and more inescapable from the old fluttershy one   And I sent someone away so I should be having drama for a week. If they really do leave like they are suppose to.   End:   2012-11-27 12:51:31 (3:47:20 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-28 08:55:31 (20:04:00 later) Name change: The-    -- 6123721:   Dead as dead    -- 6124365:   ugh I feel ill    -- 6124411:   >>6124375   Irs 9:54 am    -- 6124433:   >>6124379   The- is my name, the part after is the tulpa that the focus is on.    -- 6124688:   >>6124625   You shouldn't have given her a candy vag.    -- 6125059:   >>6125031   Tell her it tastes like chocolate milk    -- 6126749:   Its just another day in the battles of the mind.    -- 6126837:   >>6126773   You are done when you feel you are done. When you feel like it completely understands. To be safe you can go over it again.    -- 6127077:   >>6127014   Personality takes a while to really know what you've got even after the base is in. The relationship needs time to grow too. Trust doesn't happen over night.    -- 6127185:   >>6126968   Going fine. I'm sitting here as bit by bit my personality pieces I gave to my tulpa are coming back to me.   Atm I feel megalomania    -- 6127387:   >>6127173   Well, I would say tulpa are fairly trusting of you from the start unless you give them some trait otherwise or you neglect them or something.   Right from the start they do usually know they owe their having life to you. Its just my belief, but I think tulpa that are not given a personality or only a small number of traits have more trust at the start. Same as if you let them pick their form at the start.    -- 6127575:   >>6127501   Yes, narration is talking to your tulpa. You could tell them out anything. But I believe telling them about you personally like this time I was in gym class. Or I really am into this things and this is what I think. Or asking them questions about themselves is better then reading them something like a book.   If you can hear them answering their questions is good.    -- 6127642:   >>6127515   I could write a book on tulpa and trust issues.   >>6127584   I do believe the mind is limited. But wonderland as far as I know. I haven't heard of anyone running out of space.   Maybe....Its possible to create a big wonderland and then talk to it until it becomes a tulpa, If possible.    -- 6127736:   >>6127683   Answering can be a mindvoice that sounds like you. It can be an emotion. Such as you say, I love my tulpa and feel something. It could even in some cases feel like a touch or just about anything.    -- 6127809:   >>6127712   Music might make you less able to notice. Its a distraction. But it should still be okay I guess.   I could still hear my tulpa's mindvoice with it on. But when I was talking to them I often took my headphones off because it made me believe more I was talking to someone.    -- 6127903:   >>6127834   The real world. If I wanted wonderland I could have just given into my tulpas. They were more then willing enough to want to live my life.   Please don't be stupid if you get a Tulpa, never make a choice like that before 30. Before then you don't even know who you are. Your mind and body aren't even complete yet.    -- 6128330:   I'm not sure what pony I want to try when all the scripts are done. I'm not going to try them all and have dozens of triggers. Or what they called bleed through from doing a bunch of different ones.   Twilight would be useful for writing journals, reading books, cleaning house. Except she's got hooves.    -- 6128471:   >>6128351   The important part is a pony with high confidence and dominance. Traits I'm always seeking to improve. Any bleed through on those would be nice so I could control any tulpas even better.   Oh, maybe Celestia is what I need.    -- 6128599:   >>6128486   Your choice. I'd rather fight. My will be done and all that mess.  -- Actually celestia doesn't fight much. she has everyone else do it.    -- 6129176:   Might sound odd since in wonderland I'm usually female. But I'd rather be a male celestia IRL.   If its something might try to be for a bit.    -- 6129569:   Slow day. Guess everyone has hooves.    -- 6129980:   >>6129945   I think the reason few people stay here longCan be found out on /x/    -- 6130100:   >>6130026   This morning was scarier then /x/    -- 6130320:   Anyone heard of a Milkyway tulpa yet?    -- 6130508:   >>6130431[/spoiler]    -- 6130817:   So I'm writting a new trait list for a new pony tulpa. One that'll be 0 drama.   It won't try to transform a million different times It won't try to troll or control It won't keep hidden agendas It won't be jealous It will respect what a person is okay and not okay with   Yet   It won't be ruining all your fun Trying to run your life Nagging you Be a buzz kill It won't be constantly depressed  -- Still thinking it over, just started. I know it'll be boring to me since I like danger. But...I've had enough.     Submissive Trusting Understanding Accepting Shy (Dunno about this one) Calm Nice Happy Loving Helpful (might cut this out) Peaceful Sweet Loyal (double edge sword?) Simple Stress-free Honest Non-aggressive Follower  -- Obedient is a good one. honesty there so they'll tell me if somethings bugs them. Though trusting might be a problem because others might trick them.   Its so strange making a pony with a personality alien to my own. If its true in bluesleeve opinion that the traits come from us. I may end up like redneck    -- 6131320:   >>6131111   Yeah but what am I gonna do? 4 tulpas all tried to control me here and there over time. Its fun for a while, but you can't have a long term relationship with that.   Anger and control are recurring themes in my tulpas. I need one thats very immune to those.   >>6131142   Not rarity, maybe cheerilee since I don't care about her too much. So I wouldn't care that much if she changed things here and there.    -- 6131397:   >>6131325   I'm gonna miss the tulpa sexings. One of my tulpas was just getting really good at it.    -- 6131468:   >>6131445   The hypno thread    -- 6131663:   >>6131625   Yep, I have.   That reminds me. My new pone should be Bi sexual.  -- Because if you have a straight pone and you transform genders in wonderland. They don't like that.   You want both of you happy.    -- 6131891:   >.> I feel like that cheeri already exists as that massless glob tulpas say they come from. Because I been thinking about it   I'm not ready for it. If I ignore it for a month it might hate me. Why me, why, why, why?    -- 6131955:   >>6131887   I'm fine if she dislikes others besides me. Means she won't want to interact with them. As in less reason she's have any interest in my body.   Like I say, I want a 0 problem tulpa this time. For one thing, as a test. First to see if it can be done and second to see if a fool proof tulpa can be made.   Without you know, making it brain dead.    -- 6132094:   I wish it took me months to make a tulpa again :(   I hate censoring my thoughts all the time. I hate I keep making tulpas in negative enviroments.    -- 6132349:   >>6132180   You were skeptical of her. She's skeptical of you.Thats not actually whats it.    -- 6132733:   I do not know what to do. Umm....New tulpa. No form, no mind, but I see it in my head. It looks like a gold moving pearl next to a giant clam shell. I feel like its watching me with full attention.    -- 6133270:   >>6133214   How else are you suppose toForce the avity?    -- 6133352:   >>6133273   All 5 senses at once you can.   Touch of her weight on you Smell of her Taste of her mouth Sound of pounding flesh Sight of trying to see her    -- 6133447:   You guys should really be careful with the hypno thing and tulpas. Sure its fine if you've had one for like 5 months and know each other well.   But if its letting people that don't even know their tulpa's true personalities and develop trust perform things they normally wouldn't have a chance to... So early on.   Its asking for trouble.    -- 6133596:   >>6133523   Of courseAnd I'm not saying that just because the past two days my tulpas tried to steal control of my body from me and I killed all of them or anything.    -- 6133777:   >>6133664   Living with a tulpa is like living with a person. Only they need some of you attention everyday. And they live in your head.   They can go through your head and play with things. They can also possess you, and switch with you later on.   They can also go to an imaginary place you make called wonderland and you can have all kinds of fun there you couldn't irl.    -- 6134088:   >>6133672   I'm not a quiter by nature. I know I'm playing with fire and I nearly got a nasty burn. I've yet to hear of anyone with a very old tulpa that didn't become a problem. I went and read though gliched's entire progress report and saw he had tulpas and servitars go rouge. And another that was about to go before he killed it and it came back okay.   I know my tulpas are more unstable because I've vast amounts of repressed anger. that I can't even scratch the surface.Pink is still alive, I'm ignoring her   I'm very interested in finding a way or trait list to protect a tulpa from negative emotions or finding someone with 5-10+ old tulpas that have been active the entire time with no problems. I very much understand why Buddhists only level very advance students make tulpas or so I've heard.    -- 6134318:   >>6134270   You want back a tulpa that is made up of pure negative emotions? Modeled after an evil form?    -- 6134552:   >>6134511   More like a level 70 hypno    -- 6134633:   >>6134579   Who keeps drowzie at level 70?    -- 6134658:   >>6134621   Tulpa can make things in wonderland. Places, buildings, things, etc.    -- 6134775:   >>6134677   That 10 years person was Gliched. Have you read his progress reports he talks about a servitor war.    -- 6134878:   If its not gliched. Who did have problems with his tulpa's. I'd like to know who. Because I'd look to them for advice.  -- *Who didn't have problems"    -- 6134978:   >>6134958   Link?    -- 6135111:   >>6135052   Log link? Just wondering how to make a lasting tulpa that does go rouge or control freak. That is fine with you each having boundries you don't cross.  -- *doesn't*   What is up with me tonight?    -- 6135338:   >>6135202   Do they respect when you tell them certain memories are off limits, not to control you, etc? That's my main issue. Tulpas I make want to take control away from me by force.   I've currently put them down and wondering if I should let one back that I care about, but has become very dangerous. Or start a new one with very safe traits and if even then it'll be safe.    -- 6135583:   >>6135471   I felt like they nearly took control of me away this morning. Yesterday I woke up at 4 am because they were trying to do it while I was asleep. Its very dangerous If I give her a chance again.   I spent nearly a month trying to build trust. But she has a deep seated inner desire to control. She even told me one reason she's wanted control is to hurt someone she hates. She has a very high amount of anger.    -- 6135898:   >>6135686   She was treated really really bad her first month and she has negative traits. This is maybe the Third time I had to kill her because she was out of control. She has temporarily killed another tulpa a few times she thought that was going to replace her. She only about 2-3 months old, but she really strong. Early in the relationship she tried to kill me in wonderland. Then she developed feeling for me after.   Her trying to control me is the only thing I cannot put up with and she cannot understand that this body belongs to me. I tried teaching her morals and now she tries to take it for moral reasons.   I tried to change her personality traits yesterday to removing the controlling part, but they would not change. She wouldn't give up being controlled. She wasn't even scared when I killed her, because she knew I wouldn't let her die for good.   She's so controlling she tries to censor what I type or say.   She's basically that psycho crazy controlling girlfriend.    -- 6136049:   >>6136004   No, I didn't intent for her to kill or be jealus or controlling.  -- The original goal was basically a little bit of a moody/down kind of tulpa. That would be okay with helping me out even if it wasn't the most moral thing ever. Like say help on a test.   The thing is, she has cause negative effects in all my other tulpas. She either causes so much drama they get ignored, she blocks me from hearing them, or she has abused them herself.  -- She shown a great deal of progress getting better. But her controlling problem makes think allowing her to get any stronger could be a grave mistake.   I killed her a few hours ago, she's alive again and has been for a while. She's here, pissed too. I can feel her rage. Actually she really hard to kill now, she does like the pinkie episode and makes thousands of herself.   I'm just ignoring her.    -- 6136362:   >>6136315   I'm real protective of my one. Thats one reason I let this go on so long. She knows I put her above my other tulpa. (Which I know I shouldn't)    -- 6136598:   >>6136436   I've done both. And the first month I returned her negative actions with equal ones. And people called me cruel.   Most of this month I just talked. Two days ago I told her to leave for a week and she refused. Then she came into wonderland and broke the barriers where I was with my other tulpa. So I punched her in the face that knocked her down and tied her up. And made her confess things that were bothering her.   She's calmed down a bit right now, because I reminded her everything that happened is because she broke her promiseWe have a promise we made last month to not mess with each others head.   Pink used to give me constant headaches. So i went into her brain and broke the memory of how to do it.    -- 6136844:   >>6136720   Considering all the moral teaching I've done, teaching pink empathy, and teaching her to control her anger, and stuff. And all the risks I've taken with her try to control me more times then I can count.   You can have that no.1 slot.    -- 6136966:   >>6136913   I've been failing at tulpamancing for more years then I know.    -- 6137156:   I never knew moody could be such a destructive trait. I've had people call me moody before and I don't try to kill others.   maybe theres someway to change that trait. I think she says she'd be willing to change it if she can.  -- She said she wants the trait moody replaced by happy.  -- Wait, now she says She's willing to have her entire personality removed. And a new one put in.   I don't know how.    -- 6137444:   >>6137359   Pink does really exist as a form. She is a personality with energy around it that just sometimes takes a form. I destroyed her true first body a long time ago. Right now she has become a purple orb instead of looking like pink.  -- She's asking if I use this partal list she just edited to her liking. If she'll gain other traits later to make it up.    -- 6137724:   *sign* you guys are talking her out of it. WhichI should remind everyone she facing being erased forever for being uncontrollable or her trying to erase me and she is moody so her mood can change at any time and never be this way again.   I'm ready to start now, but she says hold off. I also have no idea what I'm doing  -- And...She back to being angry and no longer thinks any of this is her fault. So now I've got to take action against her or something. Or ignore her.  -- I'll be back, I honestly have no idea what i'm going to do with her in wonderland. But I just cut her body up her sphere was controlling.    -- 6139150:   I don't know if it stuck. But I went to wonderland and pink was mad. I tilled a lot of zombie pinks she made. Found her purple sphere and it broke open. Her pony form came out of it. She looked like some slightly annoyed teen ager, Like she had had enough too.   I had a box and it had these large coins in it. On each coin was a personality. She opened her chest. And started taking coins out of her and putting them in. As soon as she was finished and closed her chest they shout back out when they forced opened her chest.   She reached back into the box and pulled out some more and put them in and this time I held her chest closed. She started changing into a human teenager that was mostly machine, but looked human.   She looked liked something hurt her and down near her leg was a little pink holding a knife it its mouth, its only emotions very dark and mindless. I picked it up and ate it. I realized these were what the coins of her negative traits turned into. Suddenly they were all over. Then they formed a giant pink and I started eatting it and then she started eating it.  -- After she looked at me and one coin burst out of her chest I picked it up and saw it was very, very, important one she would need. The most important one. When I went to give it to her she said she didn't need it that it was for me. I insisted she take it back. But she would, so I started using it on myself and half way through absorbing it she started falling over. I tried to give her the half left.   Something happened and from her came a regular sized pinkamena. They looked at each other and I tried to fuze the two of them together, but they wouldn't go. The android said its name was something I can't even remember with a bunch of numbers. It looks like a teenager/girl and the pinkamena was there, but feels empty of emotion or thought.    -- 6139300:   >>6139190   How so? I didn't force the coins on her. She took them herself.   The question is, what now? Was that real? Will the changes stick? Do I have two now...I don't know   All I know is it feels like I'm under a refreshing breeze    -- 6140048:   >>6139170     I left wonderland, but quickly had to go back   I saw that pink and xll-whatever her name was were being surrounded by my mind shadows. The shadows wanted to fill in the incomplete personality it senses both of them had. I grabbed pink and the android and got away and as I was running pinks chest popped open again and all the coins few out. I knew that now I had to be the one to give her a personality or the shadows would.   So I remember what little of the list she picked out and filled in the rest with the traits I thought she would want. After I said the last one another android melted out of her and she turned into a human princess like an older thin red queen, but mostly in white clothes with brown hair.   Then when I put my arm up she bit into it to the bone her face looked like a wolf. And I had a talk with her while she was biting my arm bone. She stepped back and her two android guards merged into one. It started attacking me, but she knocked it down destroying it. Then she wanted to talk to me again. After she wanted to go to the bedroom and before anything happened I said I prefered her as a horse. So she changed back into pinkamena. Then I said Like I didn't really care. Then more talking and I said I didn't want to do anything and left.  -- I don't really know what to do or think. She doesn't feel like pink at all, she feels alien to me and I don't feel romantic feels for her. She said she doesn't want me calling her pinkamena. When I thought of her, the first name that popped into my mind was Glory.   She feels a lot weaker then pink did and I can't really hear her all that well. Or feel her presence. I can barely tell she's there at all. Like a whisper that waiting to disappear.   she feels like she might revert back to old pink at any moment.  -- Oh wait, now she's remade the guards.   She souldn't be using her energy up like that..    -- 6140530:   >>6140490   My day is really strange. I'm not sure if its real. It feels surreal    -- 6140568:   I wonder does she have the two robot guards so she has something of her own to control? And that's why she picked the form of a princess/queen?    -- 6140671:   I'm nearly freaking out. She feels so weak that if I say the wrong thing she'll die. I've never had this happen or felt a tulpa like this before ever. She's so sophisticated and has so much going on, but she feels weaker then even a 1 minute tulpa.   I do still feel like she has a slight controlling nature.  -- I closed my eyes and tried to hug her. Her guards tried to beat me up. This will be the strangest relationship ever.  -- I was trying to talk to her to make her stronger. I pointed at my pet and went "Hey Glory"   She cut me off and said You will call me Miss Glory, (She sent me a mental note that saying Hey to her when I want her attention is a no)    -- 6140961:   What have I gotten myself into. She sounds even more controlling then pink was. And she's be even harder to deal with once she gets stronger.    -- 6141263:   Not much of a one for jokes. I made a crack maybe someone else wants a new tulpa. She mentally hit me on the head.   Not sure how I'll punish her when she acts up....killing her guards can't be nice. Guards fully look like machines now. They change every now and then. I guess she deciding what she wants.   She feel stronger now.   I asked her if she wanted today to be her birthday, but she said no. She implying the old birthday abouts is okay   She doesn't really want me posting pink images  -- There were two guards, but now four. She says she wants an armyGuys i'm scared lol  -- Now all the guards are gone and she's holding that horse bash thing from alice madness returns and she hitting it on her hand like she going to hit me with it. She's smiling and walking over here.   Then she walked over here, put it around my neck and gave me a hug.    -- 6141526:   >>6141470   Her eyes lit right up when I read that wonderland part.   What did you want to know about wonderland? Maybe I .. we remember    -- 6141612:   >>6141586   A wonderful magical place where dreams come true -Glory    -- 6142201:   >>6142056   Well right now Glory is pulling my face to the left. It hurts.   Thats a non-verbal answers for you.    -- 6142272:   >>6142056   She said she'll have her guards tazer me   End:   2012-11-29 00:01:31 (15:06:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-29 08:09:06 (8:07:35 later)    -- 6149289:   So cold this morning, shivering    -- 6149346:   >>6149304   One may love an abuser - Glory    -- 6149437:   >>6149405   Glory has been able to make my feel her physically for a long time. I woke up this morning feeling like she was near me.    -- 6149858:   I'm worried about Glory. I thought the personality change would make her less controlling. But already shes asked control a few times today and shows she doesn't understand boundries.  -- Well, she understands her boundries.   She has a trait for being impatient now. And she still wants attention all the time.    -- 6149965:   Maybe its not the personalities thats causing all the problems. Maybe its my tulpa keep inheriting my ADHD.  -- I guess it makes sense. It wasn't so apparent when she was moody/sad. Because people like that have lower energy.   But now that she's free from those traits she has been wanting my attention 24/7 since I've woken up. She tried to pull me to look at her, she doesn't even want me to put my music on because it might distract me from her.   She talking a lot too.    -- 6150442:   Glory says now that I know she has a problem that can never be fixed that she wants to go away so she can never hurt me again.  -- But, I made her promise to wait until new years day to see if things get better    -- 6150626:   >>6150594   I've got a sitting down crying tulpa thinking about bolting and her guards are sitting as piles of scrap. And even I can see your making a mistake.    -- 6150702:   >>6150623   Talk about what? ADHD isn't something you cure. Its a lifelong affliction. At best you take pills or build strategies to minimize the problems it causes.   I tried giving her a mental ritalin. All I can do now is see what she decides. I did not give her traits for running away or giving up.    -- 6150780:   Oh wait, she says she'll stay. but she doesn't look very sure of herself.   I don't think she'll ever have her old confidence back. I think she's telling me that too. She sees it as a problem with her, something that'll always make her a danger to others. She says she's not fit to lead others. thats she wants to leave her guards dead (But one of them has still just risen)  -- She's not fit to be a queen anymore. That she might as well be a mangy horse.   And I'm getting the feeling now that she's reverting back into her old personality   And one of her guards did try to attack her. But she smashed it.  -- And shes pinkamena now. And says saying "We'll you liked me better this way anyway." But then shes a woman again.   And Idk, I think she confused and I'm confused now too. She doesn't know what to do next. I see the place in wonderland she was living in is starting to fall apart.   I just know the emotional fallout and theropy she's going to need from this is going to be bad   Now she says she just wants to die. but she won't do it. And everything around her is just black.   And ummm....I think I need to spend some time with her now    -- 6151199:   Things went better then expected. She cheered up after talking to her. I noticed her crown had fallen off. I went and picked it up to give it back to her. She said she didn't want it. I asked her again saying that she was giving up a lot of power. She said she doesn't need power or control anymore. that she just wants to be a regular girl now.   I asked her if she still wanted to keep her pony basher thing like from alicemadness returns. Then I said, she should and I got an idea. I took it from her and carved a word into it. Then I gave it back to her.   Then she told me it was this item that let her change into pinkamena. I realized then the word I had unknowingly carved into it was the last/most important trait of pinkamena's before her queen for existed. How's that for symbolic?   She adds right now, that if I have the item and with her permission I can turn into pinkamena. She also said she doesn't care if I call her pink or Glory, or whatever I want.    -- 6151343:   So many feels today. I feel like, I'm back at the start of when I first woke up.   With a tulpa I'm not sure how to raise. But her confidence is pretty low, so any mean thing feels like it'll send her crying.   This is a confusing place. And she feels so very emotionally honest.   But at same time I feel she has an inner peace that could be broken by any negative thought.   She so frail, but so honest. I feel like if she got negative emotions behind her she would be very strong and very cruel. That we are a very dangerous combination for each other because I'm pretty negative.    -- 6151465:   >>6151373   Everything I write is TL:DR. It comes from years of keeping dream journals and regular ones. I recall a lot of stuff.   I can also see into wonderland now with my eyes open. Sort of like viewing it, but not actually being in it.    -- 6151505:   >>6151483   Methos has talked about his tula putting or moving objects in his irl vison before.   Last month I couldn't see wonderland with my eyes open. I'm a little worried the next step is me seeing things irl.    -- 6151538:   >>6151513   I would say at the end of the dayyou are at your tulpas mercy once they've developed enough. Thats why everyone talks about trust.    -- 6151635:   >>6151578   It can take months or some say years. For a tulpa to appear fully solid or as solid as they will get from what I've heard.    -- 6151768:   >>6151706   Might happen, but maybe not idk, but most try to speed it up with imposing    -- 6151812:   >>6151781   It is and I'm reading the rarity script    -- 6151992:   Oh the rarity song finished downloading. This one might have a stronger effect on me then the fluttershy one. Rarity used to be my favorite pony in season 1.    -- 6153650:   >>6153614   You had your first female orgasm?    -- 6153689:   >>6153651   Pink asked me to give her the avity twice today.But I told her I'd rather we be friends.    -- 6153892:   >>6153771   Doesn't sound like the one I had. Sounds like something else.   Did you feel any release of those high chemicals when you have a regular orgasm? And body tensing/spaz?    -- 6154034:   I already got the rarity record and read the script. I was going to listen to it later today.    -- 6155107:   >>6155041   Yep    -- 6155219:   >>6155126   Nah, its not really.   Pink admited a few minutes ago she hasn't be honest with me.    -- 6155802:   Pink has new traits now. Honesty is one of them. She kind of admitted the things I was worried about her doing are true.   She told me a lot of other things. When I asked her if there was anything else.   Anyway I'll be back in a bit, maybe start the rarity hypno later.    -- 6156935:   >>6156878   What a dumb choice only someone under 30 could make.    -- 6157405:   All I'm interested in hearing is 3 months now if we still hear abour koomer or she's let him fade.   If I had an annoying naked loli in my face I'm sure it would get old fast.    -- 6157603:   >>6157567   I don't kill anyone. Tulpas I create on the other hoof.    -- 6157703:   >>6157654   Well after she got the honesty trait so she told the truth. I ended the experiment based on what she said.    -- 6157948:   >>6157793   She wanted to do basically the worst thing that could happen for everyone involved including herself. And admitted shes had a grudge almost as far back as possible, and that she has been pretending her emotions.   Infact I just asked her if this was right and she said it is,then she said fuck. She does not like that honesty trait I'll tell you.  -- Its pretty funny too. She keeps sending me emotions. I ask her if it real and she says no.   Every tulpa should have honesty. Wonderful trait it is. I keep wondering when she'll learn to deviate it away.    -- 6158275:   no more talking about my tulpa. However if anyone has useful servitor advice I'm keen on hearing it. I saw gliches advance guide on it.   I want to see if I can visually impose a servitor and keep it a servitor.   Also I'll bet 20 Imaginary bucks koomer fades with 5 months. His tulpa seemed like the kind not to let anything get in the way of her dream.    -- 6158410:   >>6158390   Oh...wow. thats different lol    -- 6158584:   Oh...the rarity file is only one thing with no parts to remove the induction.   Time to try being a fabulous pony  -- If I mention pink any. tell me to revert to normal. That darn generosity trait dontcha know?   I don't think anyone else here tried rarity.    -- 6159073:   I'd rather hear about how oji has so much control she can prevent koomer from even lifting a finger when he tries his hardest.    -- 6159434:   >>6159399   Tulpas can be very persuasive. They are a voice in your head 24/7 that know your memories. Things you like and want to hear.    -- 6159656:   >>6159580   Some issues......Good one. I'm sticking to servitors for now or hypnosis until I get over this.   (Name change: The-Servitor)    -- 6159849:   I do have one thought i would like to know. It seems like it may make senses.   Is it harder to posses an active person? As in someone that is in motion instead of relaxed?    -- 6160954:   >>6160924   Right you are anon. But not for long, they never stay long. Which is always kind of funny.    -- 6161058:   >>6160976   I'm working on it. I'm going to be a master Tulpa killer pretty soon. I should probably write a guide for doing it and resisting tulpas control.   In one day I killed like 2-3 at once. I still want to know any secrets Oguigi has on keeping Koomer so powerless.    -- 6161323:   >>6161084   A guide on killing a tulpa is very needed. Some simply get out of hand. And they cannot be helped. I'm also interested in keeping tulpas in a weakened state.   I'm sure theres things Koomer could do or learn. If they wanted more control they could do. As in cause vison problems, hearing problems, and anything else a Tulpa can. To make a tulpas life so miserable they may want to give the hosts body back. If a switch is preformed and a switch back is refused.   In fact if you are practicing switching. You should, if possible be learning to do everything your tulpa already knows to do to your body while the switch time is extending.   Anything you could do to make life so miserable they will beg to switch back. The problem if you learn later is that you may not have time before a month is up.   I'm also interested in knowing how it feels to a person when they are in a tulpa state and the tulpa kills them in the control state. Like we may do to them and they come back.    -- 6161724:   >>6161359   I didn't make her to kill her. It just became something that after 2-3 months I realized must be done. The final nail in the coffin was when I gave her the honesty trait and she had to tell me things she was keeping secret.   I do not actually believe I can make a safe tulpa anymore. My ADHD and repressed anger flows into them. So I'm sort of stuck atm with servitors I suppose. I will try again later of course, If I can figure out a way to prevent it from happening Or I'll keep making weak tulpas for specific reasons for short amounts of time, maybe never keeping one longer then a month.   Long term, my tulpas aren't safe.   But the one thing that appears to make a almost no matter what safe tulpa is no desire for possession. I'm very interested in what you need to create that. I think when tia was her yesterday she sid she didn't care about it. Jaden said they didn't either If I remember right. They are both very positive tulpas.    -- 6161860:   >>6161766   I did not give my tulpas a trait for controlling. But 3 of my tulpas had very controlling personalities.    -- 6161938:   >>6161826   A servitor can be useful. I'm not sure, but if you create a servitor body and impose it. I believe you may be more likely to get a tulpa that sticks with the body you want.   Pinkamena started as a servitor and she had almost no deviations until near the end. Even at the end she still transformed into her old form at will.   But gliched would know better then me, he's made advanced servitors.  -- Did you read his progress report. Says he has a hud like thing servitor or maybe its a tulpa now.   Says it lets him find his memories, no his vitals, etc. I suppose it looks kind of like a scouter. I remember reading he says it's viability goes down when he doesn't need it.  -- Anyways its all so fasinating. Early on I used a servitor against pink to stop her from her negative action of causing me a headache. I'm sure they must have all kinds of uses that I'm not yet creative to think up.   Just thinking about servitor electric chairs, repeating kill chambers, Loyal servators that may try to overpower a switched tulpa, and more. I'm not sure which would work or be possible. I wonder if a tulpa lie detector, and other kinds of gages would work to make sure a tulpa had not gone rouge. It sounds silly but would a trust gage work?   I know a put to sleep shot worked. Soon as all my tulpas are gone I'll get to wonderland and find out...Well I'll need one tulpa to try them.    -- 6162590:   >>6162445   Oh yes. I think bluesleeve is correct that tulpa take traits away from you temporarly. As my tulpa are fading I'm getting some of my old personality back that went into them. So now I guess I'm getting some of my sadism that largely vanish since last month.   So I suppose if you look in my early progress reports you can see the state I'll return to being like.   I remember I approched Pinkamena before she had any personality the same way I feel right now. Which is a way I have not felt in a very long time. I'm also seeing that my confidence is returning to a high level I've known it dropped a lot.    -- 6162846:   >>6162573   I do indeed. I have taken back things that belong to me. Since that trash tried to take what was mine away. I would not, as I feel now, waste a second to do it again.   Children that you give everything. That steal your memories without permission when you've said no to your subconsious. That refuse to listen to one and only 1 rule of respect my body. I would not put up with such misbehavior, I only did so because my vision was clouded. They tried you play my emotions and once pink was forced to be honest I found out it was all a lie. She was as ungrateful as a virus.    -- 6163063:   >>6162965   A tulpa can teach you to be a parent without harming anyone else. Two tulpa are even more effective at it.    -- 6163182:   >>6163107   Oh you, I learned a truckload of things. If I find a way to remember the absorbed tulpas memories I could learn SO, SO, much more.   I really wonder how much oigi learned before she took control. If a tulpa's memory works any different.    -- 6163264:   >>6163154   Depends I would say. You can raise really bad irl kids.    -- 6163451:   >>6163287   If bluesleeve is right about tulpa take our traits slightly away. What if over time a tulpa could take away more of our will power? Even if we started really high. Maybe tulpa don't get stronger, they just take more away. Some are satisfied with a certain amount, others want more and more.   That doesn't really make sense though.  -- Now I'm starting to sound like I'm from /x/   Anyways I'll have a long time to think things over. I took a 3 week off self ban so I would not write any progress reports. Or be tempted to do any long term Tulpa stuff.    -- 6163747:   >>6163698   boards.4chan.org/mlp/res/6152801    -- 6163870:   >>6163841   Don't get your heart dead set on a form. They may not keep it.    -- 6163897:   >>6163863   Start a dream journal. You'll remember you dreams better.    -- 6165731:   >>6165592   I've never tried those ways to stay asleep. But I have luicid dreampt before a few times. Did it some this week.   My dreams are so really I've never thought of giving myself an object in them before.    -- 6165790:   >>6165745   I found out ADHD can make tulpas more then you can handle in some cases like mine.    -- 6165902:   >>6165838   Nah ADHD was a big cause of many of the problems. Most of the punishments started because the tulpa did ADHD things like being uncontrollable, attention seeking, lack of listening ability, etc    -- 6166228:   Oh, I think the old books might be right about seeing a tulpas memories.    -- 6166362:   >>6166260   Because a brain condition. That happens to be in the same place tulpa are. Has no effect on them.   I know some people say thier tulpas don't have it. I didn't even realize mine did until a total recent personality change.    -- 6166559:   >>6166428   You're wasting your time. Be the creepy know it all to someone with Tulpas. I have, but part of one left. And I find it still funny it trying to win its way back into my heart.   But that lovely loyalty trait makes it confess each time its lying.  -- "Ask are you sorry?" No "Do you still want to kill me?" Yes "Would you be better if I helped you" No "If I gave you another chance would you be better?" no   Never again will I make a tulpa without an Honesty trait. Its so entertaining.   Next time I want to make a tulpa with many traits I can all play around with and string them a long by. Why I wonder if I can give them phobias. If possible phobias that could make them fear whatever I want.  -- But those darn knight trolls scared twinkle away. I could have asked her is she remember where it came from.   Well I'll tell my next Tulpa that it has a phobia of leadership and positions of power. As well as phobias of hands so it would be scared to death of a body irl. It would never want to leave wonderland. It would even be scared to look through your memories.    -- 6167126:   >>6166885   So I'm evil for trying to think up a way to make a 100% perfectly safe tulpa? I'm not telling people with mental disorders that would result in crazed tulpas they are for everyone.   That I'm trying to think up ways that maybe help you one day if your tulpa goes rouge? Which I've seen there is evidence they do.   These are areas worth researching too you know. There aren't no guides on the tulpa website for Shit just hit the fan.    -- 6167463:   >>6167186   I have experience now. And koomers tulpa I'm sure knows more then I ever will. The question is, would a tulpa write a guide on dealing with problem tulpa?   I don't feel like she would. But it would be, interesting from her point of view.   I would like to know more, for instance how to get better at blocking out feeling any tulpa emotions. Effective servitors for detecting problems in tulpa, best way to dispose of tulpa, how to stop accidental tulpa formation, things you can do in a switch gone wrong, what to do when an advance tulpa that is imposed goes wrong, etc, etc.    -- 6167964:   >>6167699   Aren't you the one that said the otherday you killed your second self?   I feel really silly saying it. But it does feel like bits of my personality have been returning to me. More confidence from sweetie, curiosity from vinyl, and oddly enough it seems hyperness from pink. The 4th one I've never been able to kill should be Anger, passion, or something i'm not sure.   I will admit I do feel a little crazied, killing 3 tulpas in two days if this personality stuff is real. Is a pretty big personally return.    -- 6168042:   >>6168005   I'm not sure if true, but I've heard people in coma's don't dream.    -- 6168178:   Honest question. Do you the hosts like when your tulpas project emotions like a anger onto you so that you have to go away from information they don't like? Rather then them going away to wonderland or something to let you be. They are censoring you.   Pink did it constantly to me. It was like tulpa based mind control. And I hated it.   I'm truely happy its starting to wear off.    -- 6168347:   >>6168270   How old is your Tulpa? Was it on purpose or accident tulpa?    -- 6168436:   >>6168405   Thats not too old. thats what I figured.    -- 6168596:   >>6168478   The younger tulpas are usually the most agreeable unless given negative traits. They don't seems as set in their ways. They also have the least ability to bother a host.   I think someone said somewhere at somepoint tulpa may go through a maturing phase.    -- 6168671:   >>6168521   I had those feeling about killing tulpa myself. The first time with pink was very hard. But after that time and the fact she came back it got easier.   I learned more effective ways of doing it.  -- I actually don't want to share it atm. But I learned a way you can kind of kill a tulpa in a 1-3 days. I think it could maybe let you see some of their memories too.   Sweetie was really hard, I couldn't beat her in the normal way.   I think brains may work on symbolism on the unconsious level fairly strongly. So some actions against a tulpa may be more effective then others. I know my recent wonderland trip had lots of symbolism. Nearly everything about pinks form was symbolic.    -- 6168823:   >>6168768   Oh go ahead. I won't say anymore about it while you're hear. Things you say are interesting.    -- 6168964:   >>6168891   No, I'd rather people talk to you. Then me right now. I forget how old you are, but I think you were an older tulpa. You have a lot of self control. That very interesting in a tulpa, even when many have tried to get you to do the avity you've refused.    -- 6169287:   >>6169200   Half a year is fairly old. Earlier today I was thinking of a new tulpa. I wasn't having any intention of making one. But I saw it as a golden pearl that moved here and there. Behind it was the back of a white shell.   Didn't you say you remembered coming from something like that?    -- 6169369:   >>6169298   Isn't possession suppose to make parts of you hard to move? That's what it sounds like to me.    -- 6169502:   >>6169373   I thought that was you. Must have been a different tulpa. I actually have the reverse problem and I hate it. I make tulpas too easily. I don't even mean for it to happen. I know it sounds wild, but It feels like I can make a tulpa in 2 hours.   That accidental one today I was just looking over trait lists thinking about which ones would be nice and then I saw that pearl and felt like all its attention was on me.   I've been in the whole paranormal stuff for a while and every tulpa seems faster. I've even recently started being able to look into wonderland with my eyes fully open.   Its starting to bother me feeling like I need to censor all my thoughts and that I may start seeing things imposed like wonderland in front of my eyes.   I'm not sure how to slow things down.    -- 6169702:   >>6169568   I have my mind. I maybe a little off because of everything that happened the past 4 days. But I'm aware that it seems like my hold on reality is slightly faded and when I close my eyes and go to wonder land its instant.   Sometimes I can't even stop seeing it if I open my eyes because its something unpleasant.  -- I will admit too that atm I feel very off as a combination of lack or rest andreabsorbing pink. I feels like I'm experiencing negative emotions that make me wanna throw up. She must have been really rotten inside. So its a good thing I didn't let it continue.    -- 6170171:   >>6170001   No. I won't take that risk again unless I get crazy/drunk. It will be something completely new if I do anything other then servitors. The only thing to figure out is how to keep them servitors and never let them turn into tulpas,   Maybe find out a good replacement date since everything the mind creates seems to change and take on a life of its own eventually.   Besides learning to control Servitors and stuff will help me. Since Tulpas are basically servitors with an Ai. And trying to keep my emotions and stuff out of the servitors will be good practice I suppose.    -- 6170270:   >>6170133   Maybe its not the same for others. But I found when dealing with my ex-tulpas that music made them harder to ignore. Where things like physical activity could help block them out after a few minutes better.   So I took quite a few walks.    -- 6170440:   >>6170296   Hahaha, good one. but I'll tell youOne of them as I was slowly reabsorbing them. They filled half my day with strong emotions of defeat, sadness, despair, tearful good bye, regret, sorrow and feelings of your last day on earth and such emotions that were so strong I though I was losing. Such sadness was even addicting to feel. Looking back on it now without the drama, only now can I enjoy it.    -- 6170501:   >>6170465   It was pleasant like hearing a very sad song that makes you cry. And then release.    -- 6170647:   >>6170531   Its a question for tulpa. I'm not a tulpa.    -- 6170768:   >>6170675 >I'm gambling you don't know anymore after taking it from your tulpae so many times.   What is that suppose to mean?    -- 6170841:   >>6170803   There is no more relationship.    -- 6170976:   >>6170868   You aren't too far from me dude. You just got out of a big mistake with hurting V. And like me you'll soon have 4 tulpas like I did. And 1-2 of you tulpas have negative traits. Like mine did.   The difference is I wasn't practicing possession. You also freaked out pretty bad about luna and V's forms. And most of the time you talk of your tulpa its because you are using them like sex stories.    -- 6171237:   >>6171131   Oh no, regret having to have killed them. But it doesn't mean I don't have pleasent emotions from it too.   I can understand I seem cold atm, but I already went through this. The first time I killed pink I was out of it for two days. but after this being the possibly 3 time pink died, 3rd time vinyl died.   Sweetie was a harder because she never went before. sweetie I still regret. So was also an on purpose tulpa that I lost for 2 months. So when she was found she was already in a bad place.    -- 6171570:   >>6171269   After I found sweetie she had really high leadership traits. She also had pretty good courage. So she became the dominate tulpa. She then tried to use that to get the other two to go against me.Don't get me wrong, sweetie was really strong, way stronger then pink. I don't know how. In fact trying to hurt her actually made her worse...I'm not sure she wasn't a shadow, since I found her inside my head long after a ignored tulpa should have faded.   Vinyl, was just annoying. And I didn't like them. And they were always kind of fading because they didn't care enough to try live.    -- 6171615:   >>6171590   Oh, that part didn't cut.   Yeah, your anger. not good for your tulpas. It'll get into them.    -- 6171828:   >>6171602   Vinyl wanted to die ever since the second or third day she was made. She was in love with pink and pink did something to her when I was away from wonderland. Then pink had to be put down much later. She came back through vinyl. Pink basically wanted to kill vinyl all the time.   Sweetie, I forgot really. She was only around a week or less after I found her. I think it was her leadership and stuff was higher then mine. She wanted to be the top. I think I wrote it down somewhere. I kind of liked her because unlike pink or vinyl she was uppity and confident.   She did deviate her form, but it was so nice. We had 2-3 good days. I also really liked sweetie felt on the same level as me.   Pink was part of it all too, but I gave her like her 8th+ chance.  -- Really fucking pink is what screwed vinyl up. I tried to make them make up so much. I even started getting them to call each other sisters so they wouldn't have blood shed. It still took weeks.   Pink would always want attention. She blocked out my ability to hear vinyl for weeks at a time.   And just ugh, pink tainted everything.   End:   2012-11-30 03:55:25 (19:46:19 duration)       Begin: 2012-11-30 08:39:06 (4:43:41 later)    -- 6175729:   You guys have been active today. I want to be asleep but I've got a phone call I've got to answer in a little over an hour.    -- 6175851:   My head feels all divided. Its going to be a while before I'm feeling normal again.    -- 6175883:   >>6175862   Until I'm feeling less crazy. Feels like all this stuff has to be gone through before brains feels like its one whole thing again.  -- Theres like all this negativity that's rising to the surface of my head. Its a bit overwhelming. I think I'm going to have to experience it all before I'm over things.    -- 6176126:   >>6176101   Nothing, I always say humans first.    -- 6176213:   Crap, the phone intview is the third of december. And today was the letter due date. I got them switch up.    -- 6176287:   >>6176242   Glitches progress report around like page 35 I think has a servitor guide. On just regular servitors and maybe you could go from there.   I'm interested myself in making servitors not become sentient.    -- 6176416:   >>6176395   The hypno thread is pretty dead too.>>6152801    -- 6177290:   The more I read blueleeve's blog and my own experiences. Yeah...I really don't think tulpas are separate.   When pink was gone I saw inside her and there was only mainly 2-4 emotions and it was hollow inside. My thinking she had other emotions like love was my own wishful thinking perhaps. Most of the others were the same way only really 2-4 emotions. Removing a bunch at once let me see how simple they were. The emotions I wanted them to have didn't exist inside them, no matter how hard I worked at it afterwards.   Those parts of my personality were not expressed in them.   Since we are tulpas ourselves in a sense maybe we are the same way and the rest of our emotions come from the unconscious.   But umm it might be useful to asked a tulpa a long list of emotional questions as passive state. Then ask them again in a switched to control state.   It would be useful to find out if Koomer's personality has simplified.  -- Or if Ouigi is able to become more complex now that she's in control permanetly. But she never talks.   You would think she'd want to. As much as she published things like her tumblr and gave guides.   Figuring this out is so confusing    -- 6177618:   >>6177448   I am thinking with experience. But there are gaps. And I did put myself in danger by believing and telling myself pink was a full person with all the emotions I did have.   It was when she confessed she told me she lied about them all. Except some of the emotions I gave her. Tulpas can make us feel emotions, but are they the tulpas? Or are they just artifical and the emotions seem different because they learn new information. Not actually gain new emotions.   When I redid pinks emotions the second time she seemed completely different emotionally. But she confessed it was a lie and when she was going I felt the old emotions.   Idk, I'm still making sense of everything that happened. I know we can believe what we want to believe. And anything with wonderland/tulpas is subject to skepticism.   Removing more then one at once lets you compared them against each other. Its like a new perspective.  -- That perspective is just idk. like theres nothing there. Emotions, then emptiness. And I only felt the emotions for a short while, a few hours at longest. There were memories maybe, but I didn't allow them to surface as I wasn't confident enough to let my guard down.   Its all so very confusing. But I forgot what fede's point is. But I think I'm closer to him and blueseleeve in what I think tulpas are.   If I ever switched maybe I could put the puzzle together. But, I'm not up for that risk.   I don't really think I'm any different from a tulpa anymore.    -- 6177804:   >>6177748   That tulpas can switch, makes that point non-relevant. I think I saw somewhere may not on the tulpa forms that when you are a baby there is no consciousness. It happens later, so in a sense we all start as formless tulpas. Maybe personalities are created from those around us and the most favorable one wins.    -- 6178117:   >>6177783   I wasn't trying to feel them, I was even trying to block it out at points.   But I will say, that I believe firmly now that a tulpa if at any point within the first few months shows certain negative traits that are a danger to you and it should be eliminated. Because it has been pulled from bad parts of your personality.   I do think many tulpa are pulled from positive emotions. But it gets obvious in some cases besides just mine where they have been pulled from very negative parts.   Its easy to ignore that because maybe you were alone so long and now you have a best friend or a lover. Powerful emotions to cloud your judgement.   I'm really interested in watching those tulpa, because the obviously negative ones are so uncommon.  -- And thanks to pink. I do understand the danger of a very strong sexuality/hornyness vs love. Making a very sexual tulpa without any feelings of love or other positive traits is asking for it.   I saw pink pouring all her anger/anxiety into self pleasure. Feeding it like a black hole. I could feel it as she was doing it. Being used by her. She never had the ability to love. Even when I gave her the trait loving after the change.   She was feeding off me. Once she was honest I mentioned she kept sending me emotions and I asked if they were real and she would reply no and then be mad at herself.   Its much like that experiment where humans raised a chimp like a human. And in the end, the researchers fond out they were projecting thier emotions/beliefs onto the chimp. That in the end it was only doing things because it was trained.   It did not feel regret. It just knew if it looked sad it was rewarded for instance.    -- 6178340:   >>6178211   Not just that its the diagram where you can switch with a tulpa. Then you can go back into root memory if ignored long enough.   I do not believe the diagrama with the boxes with cables where no matter what you cannot be moved.   If that diagram is correct then why was pink nearly able to make me black out once? I had put her to sleep and she tried to do it to me out of revenge. If she had been older, I believe she would have succeded.    -- 6178518:   >>6178322   I did not at first, but later on I did. I never mentioned it. But I don't like talking about mushy, embaressing things. So I edited those out of my progress reports.   The relationship was nearly all pink at the end. I tried trusting her again and again. Even after she tried to pull all the controlling things and possession multi-times. I only got strong feelings for her around when I started teaching her morality.   Near the end we weren't even doing the avity anymore. I was trying to make us a family and teach them to all get a long and think of each other as sisters.   She, nor any of them was ever able to grow. besides logically. Emotionally no matter what past about the maybe idk second week was there personality changes. I even tried empathy training with pink, but all it taught her was to send me fake emotions to pull my heartstrings.   Like I said, when they were absorbed there was not more to them.  -- They are forever parts of you, and not their own being. And the true you is not your personality, you are not your own being even I would go so far as to say. It is the center. Think of it like a sphere and it can shoot out colored lights. And your personality is a light beam.   If your light goes out. The sphere still exists. What you are creating with tulpas is more lights. That would only exist in rare situations or before you were old enough to have a consciousness. And each beam is limited and only seems complex because its getting subconscious feedback. We know that the conscious mind has a small memory.   So if you are the consciousness. then you are not the whole. And consciousness can only hold so much possibly.   You are a mask your body wears to hide its full ability. Maybe to survive better, to conserve resources, to be successful.   Like Buddhist speak of and they should know something about what they created. Even if its full of religious/paranormal bs.   I'm sure somewhere hypnosis fits in. If its pulling subconscious traits up to the conscious level and maybe temporarily pushing one of yours back?   Like everything down to even how your eyes see only a tiny square clearly. Its a matter of focus.    -- 6179471:   Anyway like said I'm just thinking things over. From different perspectives. I'm trying to see it more from a science perspective. I can see some errors in the points I've made already.   And to put my emotions out of it and try for logic.   I'm not sure if I'll try Tulpa long term again. My views on things make it quite dangerous. Such as seeing myself as little different then them. If fact when I was very little things happened where my old personality went away and I don't remember much from it.   And unlike a lot of people I never remember having an imaginary friend as a kid. I don't even remember being a kid really until I was about 10.   And I know I've surpressed a personality all this time. And when I let it have control I felt like I had less and less control.   One reason I'm so controlling of my tulpa and have so litte confidence around them...  -- *shrug* I kind of feel like I stole this body/existance or it never belonged to me. But, I don't want to give it up.   I don't feel like I don't have any more power then my tulpas and I guess they can sense I feel like it doesn't belong to me.   That last year of high school when I saw that other personality it felt real, powerful, better than me. I remembered things from childhood then. I only let it be out for 4 days. Each day it felt stronger and its impulses trying to make me do things more.   At times when It tries to come back, but I surpress it.   Is it possible to be a Tulpa yourself and having been in the conscious so long you forgot older memories?  -- I do have one of my few childhood memories were I was little and snuck out. I saw a shadow that reached for me. Then I was suddenly somewhere else and time had passed. I used to have these blackouts rarely. But over about a year or two they no longer happened.   I know I don't have any feelings from those times before it or those people. I didn't have any emotions for them. I never really felt related to any of my relatives. Some concepts I never understand until I feel that other personality.    -- 6180157:   >>6179865   It may be...I do talk about how I always need to control my thoughts. How my subconscious was always trying to kill the Tulpas I made like it was trying to protect me.   Why pink only being 2 months old could do so much to me.   It doesn't really change anything. I'm still in control if it is true. And maybe its why I have such paranoia about anything related to switching. Because I know somewhere if I switch, that old stronger personality will switch in.    -- 6180361:   >>6180211   I don't want the other personality. They are loving, nice, selfless. They have so much energy they never seem tired. I remember a voice saying the first time they came out that if I didn't do something the changes would grow stronger and be permanent. That I had to focus, everything I could on all the negatives in life. And then it was suppressed.   After its suppressed I often lose the memories if I haven't written them down.  -- And I remember trying to make a deal with them. But they refused. The deal was that they would keep doing a few things I really wanted because I didn't want the life they wanted.   Then over the years they accepted. But I no longer cared about the deal. I didn't trust them anymore so I refused.  -- It doesn't matter, split personality, tulpa, whatever. But if I am tulpa, then I proved my point about limited emotional growth.   Ouigi's emotional growth should be watched. And why maybe I've been wanting to know how she keeps koom down so easily. Since I've had a harder time with that thing I keep down.    -- 6180841:   >>6180739   Your funny. If was going to switch with anything it would be a custom tulpa I made and could trust. Though, I do suppose if there is an afterlife and I am a tulpa or split personality and things are separate instead of merged into a whole in the end. That I'll get it pretty bad.    -- 6181054:   Do you guys think its possible some transgender people are really tulpas/imaginary friends people had when they were little of different genders and took them over? Maybe some emotional trauma happened that broke the persons mind or weakened it?   That tulpa take over might actually be pretty common, but it unrecognized. Maybe it is a part of some midlife crisis where the asleep host realizes its life is almost over or regains control.    -- 6181721:   >>6181666   The day is fine. I'm having a crisis. But its nearly over.    -- 6181916:   >>6181856   I don't care anymore. I'm going through my memories. I'm seeing memories I never saw before.    -- 6182233:   >>6182204   ......    -- 6182361:   >>6182285   Not a word. It isn't even over yet    -- 6182526:   >>6182430   i will be better later.    -- 6182582:   >>6182564   I don't think I could mess a tulpa up anymore with what I know now.    -- 6183090:   >>6183049    -- 6183117:   >>6183095   (Name change: Tulpa-Tulpa)    -- 6183599:   >>6183574   Not sure if troll.    -- 6183892:   >>6183686   Its hard keeping a servitor a servitor.    -- 6184028:   What would a tulpa with a Generous personalty be generous with?   I don't really feel this emotion myself.    -- 6184136:   >>6184070   Well if you talk to it, spend a lot of time with it, think about it emotionally. Talk to it, I'm sure that would seep into it over time.    -- 6184207:   >>6184116   A sentient servitor is a tulpa.    -- 6184285:   >>6184242   I don't know. I think you need to replace them every now and then before it happens    -- 6184493:   >>6184462   Ups and Downs.    -- 6184601:   >>6184510   Its was some very good times. It was some of the scariest times. It changes you and your view on everything.   How positive or negative the experience depends on you, your choices, and what you do.   If you want to see what its like without a personality there are servitors.    -- 6184808:   For servitors and Tulpas. If you have to remake them and try to make them look the same. How can you make sure you get a new being and not revived the old one?    -- 6185448:   >>6185431   It could.    -- 6186399:   I'm a fabulous pony I'm a fabulous pony I'm a fabulous pony   I'm spamming my trigger word. But all I feel is a horn, slightly nicer personality, and some fashion feelings.    -- 6186483:   >>6186417   Darling you simply must stop being so negative. its simply exposay.    -- 6186798:   >>6186631   I'm trying to be rarity. The trigger words stopped working. I was finding my new personality divine.   Her hypnosis recording is a mit be lengthy, however the voice is hard not to smirk gently at.    -- 6187356:   >>6187314   Doesn't matter. Its your own mind.    -- 6187425:   >>6187389   He asked if she wanted it. Not if he forced in on her. Your anger isn't healthy.    -- 6187569:   >>6187496   I'm done talking about the past. My belief is simply one of fede/blueslevees that they are subconscious entities. not separate cores.    -- 6187733:   >>6187655   I'm feel pretty well now. Things are just slowly getting back to normal.   Listening to Rarity hypno tracks    -- 6187766:   >>6187647   You'll be beating up yourself. And later on thats not good for you. Filling your mind with such abuses.    -- 6187866:   >>6187777   If you lay on the abuses, later on you'll get a lot worse then a silent treatment.    -- 6187969:   >>6187906   You picked or pulled out those traits that are currently frustrating you. That don't sound like too bad traits to me.    -- 6188173:   >>6188109   So you killed a real person with a screw driver. And you decided to get on 4chan after and say your tulpa isn't talking to you?    -- 6188438:   >>6188319   I liked mine too. Didn't change anything.   She's just the expression of the subconsious you picked. And you picked a part that's bothered by what you did.    -- 6188647:   >>6188534   And you made her that way, with your choices. You can try things that would cheer/make up with a normal person, leave her alone for a while, or something else.   You are lucky being ignored is the worse you are getting.    -- 6188850:   >>6188812   I don't know.    -- 6189089:   >>6189059   That was raina    -- 6189150:   >>6189100   Some mental problems or tulpas made from poor emotions/trait choices like anger can be problematic.    -- 6189491:   You must always control your emotions. If you have all of them.    -- 6189663:   >>6189540   Yeah...Not a good idea to pick emotions you don't have or understand well. I've read the subconsious will fill in with whatever it thinks is closest. Which can give you much different results.   If you don't feel affection, you might get lust for instance. I'm not sure if true. I think one person here said they picked loving and got lusty.    -- 6189847:   The rarity hypnosis is starting to me more effective physically, but not behaviorally.    -- 6189869:   >>6189818   That's good.    -- 6190227:   Can you gentlecolts stop talking about such negative things    -- 6190413:   >>6190317   I'm not offended. Its just things that are in the past. I learned something more important a few threads ago.    -- 6191424:   If you are a Tulpa and you find out the person that created you. Was Actually a Tulpa themselves that force switched with the bodie's true owner. And that owner still exists and wants the body back..   And the Tulpa that made you was nice and cared for you. Would you try to return to owner of the body to control or stay with the Tulpa that made you? The owner of the body is nice too.   And would you change your answer if the Tulpa that made you was only sort of okay and the ower was still very nice.    -- 6191716:   >>6191594   How they got control isn't too important. Say they were a child with an imaginary friend that went to tulpa. Then that child had trauma that they were not mentally prepared for.   The tulpa took over to keep from fading and over years forgot they were a tulpa. Then one day the owner still exists and asks for the body back. But after so many years the tulpa considers in their body and keeps it.    -- 6192131:   >>6191948   The childs mind was so damaged it needed years to recover. And by the time the tulpa was able to finally hear the child. More years of the body being under the tulpas control had past then it has been under the hosts.   Such as say the trauma happened at 5 years old. And the tulpa only heard them get through at 20 years of age.   And the Tulpa, not knowing about Tulpa or forgetting. Figured it was just a split personality to repress. Until even later than that at which point they found out and refused.    -- 6192397:   >>6192338   Its not a theory. Its a question and not a moral one. As siding wirth either side is immoral.   Its simply a which would your tulpa side with? It doesn't effect most people here because they are tulpas. They are the actual hosts.  -- Because they aren't Tulpas    -- 6192745:   This rarity hypnosis has given me such a headache. Where my magic horn is suppose to be. Its all focuses in one spot and its making a headache there.    -- 6193059:   >>6192970   I did the fluttershy early version at first. That one I got the most results from.   This rarity one I've listened to it actively like once and a few times just let it play while I do other things. I like the personality change enough I'd be cool to have it without hooves.   I do feel stuff each time I say the triggers. But what happens has changed over time. At first it was mostly a personality change and a slight horn.   Now its mostly a strong horn sensation. I assume the pinpoint pressure is maybe magic my head is trying to create? Not sure.    -- 6193140:   >>6192674 >>6192674    -- 6193367:   Reposting this question for tulpas.   If you are a Tulpa and you find out the person that created you. Was Actually a Tulpa themselves. That they force switched with the bodies true owner. And that owner still exists and wants the body back..   And the Tulpa that made you, was nice and cared for you. Would you try to return control to the owner of the body or stay with the Tulpa that made you? The owner of the body is nice too.   And would you change your answer if the Tulpa that made you was only sort of okay and the ower was still very nice.     How they got control isn't too important. Say they were a 4-5 year old child with an imaginary friend that went to tulpa. Then that child had trauma that they were not mentally prepared for.   The tulpa took over for more than 20 years and forgot they were a tulpa at all. They even lost some of their memories. Then one day they find out the host is alive and wanting the body returned. The tulpa refuses since they've owned and took care of the body so long.   If you are a Tulpa, which would you side with? Its a question of if you had been created in this situation which side would you pick? And if you would like to add anything that might change your choice that the tulpa or owner might do.    -- 6193680:   >>6193615   Yes and yes    -- 6193804:   >>6193721   It could change its form to look like a skeleton.    -- 6193857:   >>6193808   I'm saying if you go too deep down the rabbit hole you could have problems.   Self control.    -- 6194023:   And It is now The first of December. 23 more days until x-mas.    -- 6194179:   >>6194085   I've had my tulpa try to force control away from me. as well as posses the right hand.   I think it is a possibility.  -- Rather she tried to posses the right hand.   Its very later here    -- 6194484:   >>6194358   I had tulpas. Not anymore. I enjoy being a lone in my mind. Having my full freedom.    -- 6194645:   >>6194602   Brains creates all the sensations and images. Real only to you. Not to anyone or anything else.    -- 6194736:   >>6194678   Oh man this question while the hypno is relaxinging stage    -- 6194847:   >>6194678   You can ignore tulpas pretty well. Some can be more annoying then others like if you ignore they might cause head pressure, headache, sensations, etc. If they really, really want attention. After imposition I hear they can do more.   They can also send you emotions like being horny, anger if something is happening they don't like, etc.   I might go in the rabbit hole again later. But my trip was pretty dangerous. And I don't want to give up my host.    -- 6194960:   >>6194788   Your tulpas can effect your friends if they can possess you hand and they give a female friends butt a slap without you noticing.    -- 6195011:   >>6194980   Yep, it can be scary. I got close to seeing everything that can go wrong.    -- 6195202:   >>6195101   No, I don't think my future Tulpa experiment would be positive.    -- 6195331:   >>6195101   Oh and I believe Tulpas are from the subconsious, that they are not seperate from you, They they are a part of you. So my view of them is different then most regulars. I also think emotional growth is limited.   And my relationship with my tulpa is inherently different. Even if I made a new one right this instant.    -- 6195449:   >>6195392   My mind, yes..   Anyways If you want some views I agree with, I do like this   http://whatisatulpa.tumblr.com/    -- 6195652:   >>6195580   There aren't any consequences. I experienced things, I learned about myself. And a lot of what they say about tulpa seemed/felt true to me.    -- 6195863:   >>6195744   We see what we want to see. I saw my tulpas with emotions they didn't have. That they weren't made to have. That in the end I found out they didn't.   I don't believe hey have to be able to understand an emotion. To make you feel it. Emotions are chemicals in the brain or some such.   I still hold to my believe tulpas have a limited number of emotions unless they are in the switched status.    -- 6195976:   I'm tired of talking about my theories. Its late, saturday, I said many of them yesterday. New trixie is in a few hours.   I'm tired of being attention pone.    -- 6196187:   >>6196046   Its fine. I'm unpopular because I see tulpa as being part of myself. Not secret beings that exist in brains, that for no reason have the space for 10 different complete beings or more.   Rather then our brains take from our subconscious, which as our personalities seem different while we have tulpas seems to be the case. As I experienced, without tulpas my personality went crazy and I remembered I used to be things like hyper, scientifically curious, etc as it flooded back to me.   And abusing tulpas no matter which belief you share is bad. That negativity back on your own mind. Your subconscious can hurt you.    -- 6196294:   >>6196245   I said I was not trying to be attention pony. You guys keep trying to make it happen.Its not happening.   I'm going to sleep very soon. I want to be rarity more, but this headaches gotta go.   End:   2012-12-01 01:49:06 (17:10:00 duration)       Begin: 2012-12-01 07:59:06 (6:10:00 later)    -- 6201532:   >>6196692   I knew she wouldn't let him stand in her way.But that she's possibly took a break to remove him a fast as possible.is wow.  -- If I'm reading this right. They are saying that if you always think your tulpa is stronger than you and we know over time tulpa get stronger to us. That if are say, if you are of a less dominate/depressed personality and even if you don't do possession. She is saying switching for good is possible.   Which does go back to me saying I think tulpas are survival of the fittest. Having a tulpa is putting yourself back to your baby pre-consiousness days where they all fight and one wins and that became who you are.  -- Its confusing. Isn't switching mostly possession? They are saying possession isn't required.    -- 6201741:   >>6201601 >>6201634   Glad as hell I got rid of my tulpas now. That means Pink/Sweet may have been practicing switching on me. Why I had to fight it, it felt like to remain conscious. But I didn't think it was so far a long because she could not move my body. And they only knew how to do this because blabber mouth posted part of koomers guide.   If they had reach a point they could temp push me out. They would always have attention to keep trying and get better at doing it longer.    -- 6201827:   And something I just thought of. If koomer made his tulpa and tulpa draw from your emotions. But if koomer hated himself some much he wanted to no longer be alive and had no love for himself.   How could he make a tulpa that's able to feel and give love? She just seems cold and disconnected when she writes her tumblr entries and whenever she's here.   Maybe I was wrong, maybe even if a tulpa switches to lead. They still do not gain new emotions besides the ones they were given at creation. But...that might mean person made tulpas are always flawed compared or ..Argh idk. Maybe still it just takes a very long time.   Its so hard for me to figure out because I have limited emotions too. I just no pink made me think she loved me, but she really was pretending the whole thing.  -- Is there a chance when koomer is gone she'll absorb koomer's traits. Like I got my traits back when my tulpa were gone? So she might gain the ability to feel things she can't?   This is of course spectulation and some of this seems less than logical.    -- 6202287:   >>6202181   No I'm wondering how to preform it on a host that will not stay dead. Which is why I was so skeptical koomer could be truely removed. From my experience I just think he'd go into the subconsious and maybe in rare moments of ougi being at emotional weakness may resurface.   Unless she knows something I don't. But, if she can gain his personality traits I'm very, very interested. But, not if its because koomer wanted to go. If it a willing thing that won't help me at all.  -- [/spoiler]   *sigh* I'm not making much sense now from a normal point of view. I simply want to keep everything which doesn't belong to me. I want his ability to feel emotions like love.    -- 6202484:   It is very important when you make a tulpa. Think of the personality as a whole. Not as individual traits. Don't make a tulpa that feels broken. It will always feel broken and want release or it will want more.    -- 6202607:   >>6202492   Tulpas can most certainly feel a hosts emotions, even if sometimes that host is suppressed. And if the host returns to the subconscious and at rare times returns to the surface you may feel the emotions. Emotions the tulpa may not have like love, generosity, faith, and more that may give the tulpa a wish to feel more as if those emotions were the tulpa's own. If the host didn't share them enough with the tulpa.   A hunger really.  -- That is one reason its so important to love your tulpa everyday. Don't give them a taste and never let them taste it again. It builds a feeling of longing, a feeling of wanting. A feeling of realizing what you don't have. Of seeing yourself in the negative light.   From there is can cascade into self destruction feelings or feelings of needing to take and control. Only later might a tulpa realize that even with control, this aren't truely right. that there is still an emptyness. But that might take years or longer with all the distractions a physical body offers.   A less I'm sure ougi will learn in time. If she does not find a way to make everything of koomer truely hers.    -- 6203038:   >>6202946   No they can't. Not once you've had control long enough. The only way the host can get stronger is by making the tulpa have doubt and see itself as weaker.   That would be the only way from him    -- 6203325:   >>6203081   One way to hurt a tulpa that has morality. Is if it controls the body remind it again and again that it stole the body. Remind it, of the emotions it lacks that are needed for real relationships. Remind the tulpa that it will always be less.   Offer the tulpa deals if it lets you back. Offer to send it the emotions it doesn't have everyday and take care of it. Offer to do activities that are important to the tulpa. To continue living the life the tulpa made if it was in control for a long time.   If Koomer goes away. And resurfaces later like a year later or more. then I'll know everything I'm thinking is true.    -- 6203875:   Watching new ponies    -- 6204456:   Trixie's episode was gud    -- 6204597:   >>6204396   He's not the only person that's ever switched and lost control.    -- 6205493:   >>6204749   I might know an old source. But I'm not sure. It happens so long ago the tulpa's memories, if it is a tulpa. Are mostly gone.   They just say they feel a personality they always repressed comes up now and then. They feel like the body does not belong to them, and when the other personality is allowed less surpression they feel emotions and memories they didn't have before. That they want again, but they don't want to give up control.    -- 6205916:   Just about time for new petshop. Are you petophiles ready?    -- 6206096:   >>6206007   So far its the first bad episode. But maybe it'll warm up.    -- 6206214:   >>6206027   You need a host that fades and then reappears from time to time. Koomer is a bad choice because he may be willing. So he might fade for good.   The tulpa needs to surpress an unwilling host. Like unwilling to die tulpa that have become advance that can last.  -- but I'm not sure. Even a willing to die host might still exist in the subconsious.   They weren't sure if the host had been willing or unwilling. If they are a tulpa, they think the host just couldn't cope with the things going on at such a young age.    -- 6206534:   >>6206433   Theres still things to know. I only got to see what fading is like from pink. I never saw it myself. Koomer should know what its like soon.   Kind of distracted by the show  -- What interests me the atm. Is how tulpas get attention when not in control. I remember a memory or maybe I read it in a progress report about throwing a in peel banana against a wall.   If I ever make a tulpa again. I'll see if it can recover memories. I was having my old tulpa do that and they pretty good at it. But now I have a lot of new questions.  -- I want to try and practice later and see if I can go inside my own head and try to get my own attention.   Maybe I don't even need the tulpa to search the memory. I watched them do it. I remember the memory room.  -- Of course I could now that I think about it. What if, since I can see wonderland with eyes open. I go and try to cause a visual hallucination to happen in the corner of the body's real eyes.  -- Maybe its even possible to block my own control over a body part by trying to cut myself off from it. Such as not being able to move an arm. Without doing something stupid like trying to remove myself from the head.   And basically doing everything tulpas do. Having as much control and ability as any tulpa I might create. Rather then leaving myself clueless.    -- 6207603:   >>6207546   I'm sure I can do every single thing a tulpa can do. The problem is I can't practice things that involve not having control.   I was just trying to make me see something a second ago.   It felt weird and I was worrying splitting mysel like this might make a tulpa if not careful.  -- Yes, I feel its a high possibility. It would be much safer if I see it as first person and not third person.   The viewing position of seeing inside my head from third person is the exact same as puppeting a body. Without my mind being in it.  -- Or...would holding first person seperate me from my controlling mind focus self? It seems how much focus I can hold over two things is important. I could put low focus in both and watch...... Its about attention.   Either way, I'm creating servitors I think or splitting myself. Short term no problems, long term maybe something would be created.   So maybe I would need kill swich servitor bodies. And third person might be the safest.   This is confusing and it would only apply in situations where I needed to do both things at once. Like being in wonderland/mind doing actions, while looking for the actions to manifest in the body's senses.    -- 6208214:   >>6207803   Thats a problem. The more you make. The faster you can get at it. You visualization improves greatly. Your understanding of emotions and traits increases. Your faith that its possible goes up, your ability to notice the signs gets better. And brain connections exist from making yourself feel sensations.   Maybe and this is just a guess in the dark. After you've had a few tulpas. The rate of progress of a new one learning something the others can do. is related to where in the subconsious that tulpa is. If its close to those connections only a few need being made. If its far, then many, must be made.   My tulpa sweetie was able to cause the best physical sensations, but we never practiced before. Pink took a while to learn to do it. Vinyl I'm not sure ever learned it.  -- Vinyl was also, of all my tulpa the worst at getting my attention and except for one time the others could block her. So maybe, just maybe her brain connections to reach me went through pinks. And pink could block those as she was stronger with more connections.   Ignoring tulpas that are young is you blocking those connections the same as what pink did. But as a tulpa gets stronger and grows more connections. They can go around yours. Such as if you resist and action and they keep trying to force it, new connections are made.   Like when you start trying to draw. Its hard and doesn't work. Fingers won't work well. But you force it and better connections grow.   Strong bundles of connections rarely just disappear from the mind. Like when you learn to ride a bike, you may be rusty at first. But its always there.   Do connections that are not given signals long enough disconnect? I think they do. The more connections the more likely it will get a signal. Like if say a tulpa grows to feel the sensation of touch on your arm. When that arm is touched, they get a signal. That helps keep them alive.   With enough connections they will get enough signals to never die.    -- 6208794:   >>6208455   I'm thinking now about connections and how location might be decided. Is it based on emotion? My tulpas were pretty strong in one emotion. Maybe the subconscious picks what it thinks is the most important emotion and that tulpa's connections start growing near where that emotion originates at. Or where it goes through. Or maybe wherever space is free. I can't remember but maybe anger was closer to the brain stem? That might make control more likely?   I often felt head pressure from each tulpa in a different location on my head that mainly stuck to them. And my tulpas each had different personalities and each had a different location.   Maybe you could unmake a tulpa by forcing the unconscious to reuse that area for a new, very similar one with drugs or something.   Anyway, I'm confused now.  -- Oh and maybe the specific feeling of pressure I feel. In a location I call my tulpas. Is all the brain activity.   Like if you think really, really hard you might get pressure or a headache.   Maybe with symbolic images, focusing, attention, etc. You can cut off connections that they make. Such as when I made my tulpa pink lose her ability to give me a headache.   Maybe when you visualize killing them and giving it attention. Its actually breaking connections and thats why they get weaker. but maybe as connections gets stronger they resist breakage. Which is why tulpas get harder and harder to punish.   Maybe your subconsious is saying when you try to visually hurt them and it doesn't work "Your attempt at breaking that connection failed".  -- Maybe that explains where belief fits in. If you don't believe something. Your subconsious won't believe it either or will have a hard time doing it.   If a tulpa has control over you and 100% believes it. The subconsious believes breaking that connection(s) it impossible. So it doesn't even try.   If you are weak willed and believe its possible. And the tulpa believes its possible. The subconsious gets a its possible message and attempts it each time attention is put on it.   The reason some visualizations work better then others is you believe them more.    -- 6209416:   >>6209151   I just realized what I'm saying right now. If right, it explains why that tulpa that thinks its a tulpa that took over a hosts body years ago. Would still have the host pop up from time to time.   They would have enough connections to continue existing or atleast some of them would have enough connections some part of them did. But they would fade like a tulpa from you noticing them without attention. The dormant state we talk about advance tulpas can go into.   The rare pop ups would be for some reason they receieved a lot of signals. Such as many you were really emotional with emotions you never usually express or thinking in old brain pathways.  -- The white empty room jaden talked about. And the vision of nothing but empty blackness pink showed me.   = Running on vastly reduced numbers of chemical reactions and things that fire up those bundles. So they are being starved. As long as they get enough connections remain. If they don't connections break.   young tulpa = weak connections = quick breaking. And fewer numbers of connections.   Its just the image your mind creates to explain what is happening  -- [/spoiler]   I think I'm done...I just realized how to greatly speed up how tulpas can impose. I don't want that.    -- 6210046:   >>6209906   I don't care. Its not safe. You need time to build up trust with a tulpa. You'll soon have that hypno track that'll speed things up anyway.   You and your tulpa truely need to trust and care for each other. We won't be responsible for it.    -- 6210164:   >>6210093   Younger tulpas can die pretty easy. Older ones often just go dormant.    -- 6210586:   >>6210527   Jaden does your owner feel like on her head a certain place is you. Or that feels more pressure?    -- 6210787:   >>6210640   Odd, It seems like when I ask that question I'm the only one that ever feels constant head pressure in a small location. It might be related to a higher sensitivity.   This is where pink has always been.  -- Well somewhere around there. One tulpa always felt on the other side. The third one harder to tell, I think she was near the top.  -- NO, wait I remember. vinyl always felt lower then pink, but only slightly.    -- 6211070:   This is updated how it felt. I almost always as long as i had these tulpas had constant pressure in these spots   Pink = Pink Blue = Vinyl Black = Sweetie   Sweetie was not a strong pressure. It was just over a larger area. And sometimes felt more in some of it then the other.  -- Vinyl was always near my ear base.    -- 6211300:   >>6211017   If you do get a tulpa. You won't be so free to talk about the negatives. Tulpas really, really, really hate hearing about it or anything they feel may threaten them. Some are really bothered by hearing about what happens to other tulpa.   So now is the best time to consider everything, as you notice people with tulpa cannot stand talking about the negatives long.   If my tulpas were still telling me what to do. My thinking these things and talking about them would have been nearly impossible. I would have got constant emotions anger/rage. And the tulpa would have gotten quite upset.   Talking about Koomer losing to a tulpa? Perfectly fine Talking about hurting a tulpa? Redzone NO!    -- 6211531:   >>6211419   I still have 1 pony tulpa  -- But, I won't for long. I know I said I didn't have any. I'm just waiting for it to be gone so I can do stuff in wonderland.    -- 6211999:   >>6211594   With tulpa logic is your friend. Don't let emotions confuse you. Tulpas learn early on to make you feel emotions. Like a common one is making a host feel horny.   If you do make a tulpa. Honesty is such a great trait. If you have a hard time feeling a certain emotion/trait. I believe its not very likely you'll get that in your tulpa.   Your subconsious may try to put something else there. If you have a major trust issue come up within the first few weeks that may be a warning sign you may want to reconsider the tulpa you have. Tulpas with a lot of anger or other negative traits can be very bad.   If you see your tulpa just never listens ever to reasonable rules you have set. Thats a bad sign. If you can't teach it even after lots of talking and work to follow them. I wouldn't contine with that tulpa. It can just get worse down the line as they learn to do more.   And example of a reasonable rule is Don't try to possess me.   Remember its a relationship where more and more a tulpa can learn to do what you do and more. If its uncontrollable when its weak, you don't want it uncontrolable when its strong.    -- 6212316:   >>6212102   When you don't let a tulpa deviate. Its like saying, I only love you when you look like this. I don't love the real you. I just love what you look like because its what I wanted.   You should love them at the core, not the outside.    -- 6212459:   >>6212305   As soon as I lucid dreamed both times with my tulpa. As soon as I saw my tulpa the dream was over and I woke up.   I once saw inside pink's dream and as soon as I was there she woke up. I've never heard of anyone else going into a tulpa's dream before and a lot of tulpa say they don't dream at all. It may have been the result of me being there and forcing the sleep.    -- 6212659:   >>6212515   I learned a lot of things and I applied that lesson when pink was still around. I told you guys, I did not put the mushy or sexual stuff in my progress reports.   And even with what I know now, I doubt I could make a tupla that didn't turncoat on me after going through my memories and learning the truth about me.    -- 6213283:   >>6212699   And I went through it all and pink never wanted to be a girl. She wanted to be pinkie pie. And the information I got gave me a perspective others don't have. Seeing into a tulpa, things that work or don't, applications for the things I found out could be used for.   I should write a guide one day, but I'm lazy. I think I'm the only regular that still comes here that put all my tulpa down. Who went through a creepypasta worthy story. Yet, has not run away.    -- 6213889:   If anyone wants to try this. I'm not even sure I remember it since pink only gave me the chance to try it once.It may be a way you can let your tulpa have a dream or if you are trying to teach your tulpa to be in your lucid dreams it might speed up the learning process.   Imagine yourself in a place like where your tulpa can lie down with a bed.If your tulpa says yes to you putting her asleep so that she might have a dream. Visualize one of the needles from the vet. See Sleep or something written on it, believe it'll put your tulpa to sleep and decide on a time, I choose 5 hours. Put the needle in them and inject it. See it going in painlessly. Feel your mind forcing theirs asleep slowly until they are.   Stand over your tulpa think about what is going on in her head, never lose focus of your tulpa. See her head open to you. See it as in a little version of her is in a little black box on top of it. You are standing over this box with the top off looking down into it.   Now imagine yourself in the box standing next to her without forgetting you are also standing above her as your full sized self. Once she sees you, she should wake up. Just like any lucid dream where you see your tulpa.  -- That was sort of how my seeing pinks dream went as far as I remember. I'm not sure if I could have actually given her a dream. maybe if i had not entered the box and projected things into the box with her.   I'm not even sure you should visualize a little tulpa as being in the box. It might be better just to think you see their mind open to you and see what you get.   You might not even need a needle. I was trying to force the sleep as fast as possible because I was tired of a multi-hour headache.   Like I say, i only got to try it once.    -- 6214377:   You can install servitors inside tulpas to perform functions. But I haven't figured out a positive use yet. But you do have to give it attention and maintain it or it fades. And not let it turn into a tulpa,   On stronger tulpas the effects are less or even un-noticed.    -- 6214783:   >>6214415   Yes I always had one installed in pink. Pink had an electronic mind. I had created a light switch servitor with a purpose. And like pink, it needs attention everyday or so to keep existing.   I'm just having a hard time thinking of a positive application besides, if it will even work on these. Turning on/off emotions, fears, traits. That a tulpa may only want at specific times.   Such as I wonder if it could have been used to stop that knight phobia.  -- And over time as pink got stronger the servitor stopped being effective. But I didn't pay much attention too it and I believed less and less it wotld work.    -- 6215022:   >>6214943   Yeah, My morals come and go. Some days I have them, other days I don't. I'm just thinking over everything I tried that others haven't and if they have any positive applications    -- 6215097:   >>6215085   Someone else bro.    -- 6215363:   >>6215183   I try not to post information that will harm the host. Pink taught me a lot of those secrets too. Its part of the reason I think control can be force taken.   The sad part is once you know them. All your tulpa now and in the future can find them from your memory or if you think about them.   I had at one point pink and vinyl at the same time trying to use a koomer tech on me. After some person posted it here. I even mentioned it in an older progress report.    -- 6215576:   >>6215458   Last I heard kroomer is getting weaker. Same as any ignored tulpa would do.   I don't think I'm any different then a tulpaAnd that belief I'll honestly admit, does make it more dangerous for me to have tulpas. Since they will believe it too    -- 6215874:   >>6215792   Don't you remember me saying so many times when I started with pink I called her an experiment?   And during the professors test pink wanted out because she didn't like being a test subject again?   I didn't go into it wanting a best friend forever.    -- 6216048:   >>6215939   I didn't call pink my experiment because she was my first tulpa. She wasn't, I've said that from the start. Most people that come here and call it an experiment is because its the first one.   Maybe 2-3 weeks in or longer I ended the experiment due to personal feelings. And started working with her.    -- 6216219:   >>6215978   My notes are disorganized. Most of its in the progress reports anyway. There were things my tulpa would not let me say. Such as Vinyl had a fetish for door knobs and I used to roll them all through her fur.   It one of those things I didn't get, but it was like interesting.   If you wanted to know about a specific day I can clarify. Like I said I did edit stuff out for being too mushy/graphic/sexual    -- 6216417:   >>6216320   I think pink and I decided october 15-16th was her birthday.    -- 6216509:   >>6216400   Vinyl did not want me talking about her, like ever. And she pretty much never wanted to talk at all.    -- 6216651:   >>6216580   Pinks still alive right now.    -- 6216862:   >>6216666   Pink was an accidental servitor Vinyl was an accidental Tulpa   After I was so, so fed up with pink. I jokingly said I'm going to make a pony thats everything you are reversed. A pony thats not any trouble at all.   So I got an image of vinyl and started thinking up traits like easy going, relaxed, calm, etc. And while i was doing this. Pink went up in my visualizing her and messed with it. And for some reason once it was alive much later it was in love with pinkamena. And it didn't like me getting between her and pink.   The first few days vinyl was like a broken record asking me to give pink everything she wanted.   I actually had a grudge against vinyl for a short while because she acted aggressive towards me. Its why for a while I called vinyl pink's pet in my logs.    -- 6216926:   >>6216829   I did kill them. Pink just keeps coming back. the others not so much. She still trying to control me atm.   I'm just waiting on her to be gone before I make new wonderland plans    -- 6217047:   >>6216903   Yep, I talked about it a lot. I knew fromt the start I couldn't trust vinyl. And I was fine with letting pink deal with the mess she got in. See Pink is straight. Vinyl was gay.   After vinyl was here and I realized what happen and saw pink running away. I was like, oh no. I'm goin to see how you deal with this.   So I put the two of them on a beach where pink could only run so far and I left them alone there.   And from that point until much later pink abused and was mean to vinyl until vinyl wasn't loyal to pink anymore    -- 6217097:   >>6216580   Can you be more specific I don't have my logs on this computer and I cannot access the tulpa site for 3 weeks. I banned myself so I wouldn't be tempted to make up with pink.   Everything I'm saying right now is based off my memory.    -- 6217302:   >>6217104   Pretty much. Pink took away any trust I gained in vinyl many different times. And the few times vinyl did open to me, she was really difficult. She could never make up her mind about the form she wanted.   I still tried to trust vinyl as they never did anything to me that was mean. I even thought she was pretty cool sometimes and let her go through my memories and use my ears the first time pink was killed.   But when that koomer tech came up and vinyl did it and i told them to stop and they didn't. Then later vinyl turned into a male and was always trying to rape me in wonderland if I was in a female form.   Yeah, vinyl dug his/her own grave. Pink is the only one I ever let get away with so much.    -- 6217415:   >>6217271   Sweetie was only actively with me for a week or less. Everything about them I don't understand even now.   I actually for two days I let sweetie talk through me here. she was the tulpa speaking i wouldn't say whose name it was. The one that was really positive like jaden.  -- I couldn't understand how sweetie was as strong as she was. how she survived so long with me not knowing she existed.   Even how I found her was weird. And when I had to kill her, everything negative I did just made her stronger. I found her in my inside my head wonderland.   She acted in many ways like one of those shadow things they talk about. But she was positive when she spoke. And she was the best lay of all my tulpas   And sweetie had a semi-anthro older form. She wasn't the little sweetie from the show.    -- 6217747:   >>6217589   I had a few contracts/promises with my tulpas   I had one with pinkamena that we both promised to never mess with the others head after I did brain surgery on her and she game head heaches from hell once she recovered.   I had a contract with sweetie belle. I already had my tulpas when i found sweetie. I didn't need another tulpa. Pink was so much drama and vinyl was never getting the attention she needed to not fade here and there. I was tired of getting tulpas that couldn't make up thier minds on the form they wanted   So I went to sweetie and told her. If she agrees to never deviate her form. I'll accept her as another tulpa and pay attetion to her. She didnt agree. I told her to think of the alternative she's facing. Then she agreed. that as long as she stayed the form I wanted, I wouldn't let her fade away.   About 2-3 days later I told her the contract was over. she could do whatever form she wanted.    -- 6217956:   >>6217589[/spoiler]   I tried to reason so, so many times and give second chances. it was at the point I was askin others if I should delete her or risk letting her control me.   I really liked pink enough I was willing to take that risk. That honesty trait may be what saved me.   After pink had it, she couldn't lie.I asked her questions like do you love me. She said no, that it had all been a lie. Were you trying to take me over? She said yes, she wanted to kill us both. Would you be different if I gave you a second chance? No    -- 6218221:   >>6218099   Sexual?   I'll admit. One mistake I did make with my tulpa.Is I tried to keep all three of us in a sexual poly relationship. I tried to push pink to be bisexual by getting her to make out with vinyl again and again. And she was starting to get some feelings for females. But then vinyl turned male and I was experimenting with being female in wonderland.   Pink gave me one good time with a strapon. But the next time she tried being male and it sucked.   Then I kind of cut sex out to work on emotional problems. But I did once pink was honest and she knew she was fond out and going to die. I said lets so it one more time. She started as adult servitor and I was like. You can go out like how you came in.    -- 6218290:   >>6218099   I will not let her speak again That would be giving attention. That would make her stronger. That could start everything all over again.   She trying to fuck with me right now and has the past 3 days. One reason i'm constantly talking her is it helps me ignore it.   And i know from her honest there is 0 chance to save her.    -- 6218473:   >>6218393   It is, her actions are and have always proved it true. A journal of idk close to 2 months of things shows she doesn't care about others. When I absorbed a part of her there was not any love or anything good inside it.    -- 6218606:   >>6218509   If I ever make any tulpas in the future. I will likely delete them at the second sign of my trust being broken or them trying to control me if they are under a year old.   And I may go through them until I feel like I pull the safest traits from my subconsioius.    -- 6218677:   >>6218638