Title: Tinker log 3 Author: Anonymous Pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/i50dcra9 First Edit: Sunday 4th of March 2012 11:16:24 AM CDT Last Edit: Sunday 4th of March 2012 11:16:24 AM CDT Jessica:  one room for artists, one room for everything else  me:  Yeah, that's an idea We've got good relations there' And stuff  Jessica:  Sure, we give Pearl a lot of money and don't wreck up the place The worst thing we ever did was stay late one time Speaking of remember We have to have everything out of there by 11 It worked well last time... started cleanup at like 10:30 or some shit or even earlier  me:  Yes, I'm aware- I've planned a sing along for 10:00 so the guys with cars can go get 'em While we wrap up winter and various other things  Jessica:  Hm. That could be interesting. The singalongs are usually impromptu. Oh I still have a big pile of $1s in my drawer at work from the last con I'll bring it to stock the cash box and the coins I have left too Also I got a bigger cash box which did not arrive in time for the con It'd be nice to finally move into it the old cash box has like .... only one compartment big enough for bills this new one has like five. Jarek said he'd go by the Lab to pick shit up  me:  I have another Cash box too Figured it'd be good for the meal ticket s  Jessica:  Good Use the big one for the store and the little ones for concessions Speaking of Did you make arrangements for pizza, water and soda? I am going to leave the electronics and cash box and other shit in a pile in the Lab, and Jarek said he'd come by to grab stuff so he can grab the stuff while I go off to the storage unit to rendezvous with you and Steam Jet.  me:  sounds good, yes I made the plans with 2 Brothers And I'm having Nanashi pick up the sodas In Brooklyn  Jessica:  That's cool. I'll try to remember to put the pizza cutter in the pile.  me:  Great~ Winter's gonna slice it for us like last time he had a pretty good system worked out  Sent at 4:54 PM on Thursday  Jessica:  ~sigh~ Winter. I wish he'd stop hating me. That's the most painful thing of all. Somehow him hating me hurts more than Nanashi hating me. Probably because he had less involvement with me, so less reason for strong emotions towards me  me:  Idk... It's a tough one He's a good kid Just show him you're not crazy anymore~ Or something Idk I'm nopony to give advice hre  Jessica:  It's hard. He really pushes my buttons hard sometimes, like when he starts paraspriting me. My mind interprets paraspriting as bullying and reacts in kind I.e.: yelling and anger He says he wasn't paraspriting me. I donno. Maybe he wasn't. Maybe I'm just hypersensitive. But when he went into #bronycon-staff and made a snide remark, and wouldn't answer direct questions, and would just say "lolo" and ":3", I snapped at him It wasn't a good idea, or a productive response.  Sent at 5:00 PM on Thursday  Jessica:  I've been trying so hard to make amends with him. I'm only in therapy because he felt it would be a good idea. I wish he'd see that. Me going to see a therapist for the first time in years is a show of respect for him.  me:  It's still a good idea  Jessica:  It's not free, either. It costs $175 a session. So it's not just a show of respect, it's an expensive show of respect.  me:  He still feels you're irrational / unstable though, primarily because you go crazy at little taunts that don't bother most ponies Because something like :3 isn't really that offensice  Jessica:  I was bullied often enough that I became hypersensitive to it. Some ponies become numb to the pain But in my case, I only became more sensitive to it. It's kind of like PTSD Being bullied makes me feel like I'm back in school again helpless and hated. Like having a flashback. Only I don't literally see visions or whatever. I just experience the same sort of helpless anger that was my daily life for so long.  me:  Hmm... that's why you need therapy, winter or not That's a serious problem The past can be a misreable place  Jessica:  Probably. And yes.  me:  For now it's actually kinda comforting to me, I remember September... it makes me hopeful  Jessica:  What's comforting to you?  me:  that somehow, someway indescribable- we'll get this all sorted out Well, just the friendship I experianced in September, the Subway ride The partying All that, with good ponies like Ohad and Winter It can't be taken away from me for as long as I live and as misserable as things get  Jessica:  Do you think that I want to take it away?  me:  No, I think the march of time has a much better shot at that than any pony being History's written, fact is fact I can actually take some comfort in that  Jessica:  You had fun in September?  me:  Oh yeah, like never before I'd never socialized like that ever It was an amazing, spontaneous experiance  Jessica:  Would it surprise you to know that I didn't have fun at September? Or June? There were some up moments, but the weekends were, by and large, hell for me. And January... you already KNOW that January was hell  me:  I know Cupcakes didn't have fun at September And several other ponies as well But you had friends to help you out in September, even in January Even If I was having a miserable time, I'd take comfort in that there where ponies that gave a damn about me  Jessica:  I was still overtired, overworked, and drastically overstressed.  me:  Well that's something that can be helped with propper delegation and what not  Jessica:  I'm going to tell you something very important.  me:  Yes/?  Jessica:  I never cared if I was happy at cons. I never cared if you were happy either, or any of the other staffers. The happiness of the staff-- especially my own personal happiness-- weren't even on my radar. Completely meaningless to me. A nice extra, if we were happy But not at all a priority, not even a low-level ones ...one The ONLY thing I cared about was the congoers If THEY were happy, that was all that mattered to me I was used to torturing myself and torturing the staff It did not bother me.  me:  But it doesn't have t be that way you know...?  Jessica:  I suppose it doesn't, with enough planning and enough delegation.  me:  Yeah, unfortunatly still not the type that we have now Eventually I'll speak up about the council being too verbose Till the I'm giving Andrew a fair chance  Jessica:  Andrew's probably going to shrink the council. And I can't imagine he wouldn't give individual staffs (staves?) more autonomy. It's only natural. The council started because Sean didn't want me making unilateral decisions. So I evolved it into a body where EVERY TINY DECISION was deliberated verbosely and voted on by everypony but me So that no one could accuse me of doing things behind closed doors and making unilateral decisions. It still wasn't enough; ponies still resented that I was trying to set the agenda which I was but It also set the precedent of verbosity and "everything needs to be discussed" and blurred the lines between departments perhaps too much.  me:  Yes, but making your situation an extreme just to appease sean was no solution either The middle of the road is the right place to go And it takes a fair amount of time to do that That's kinda what I like about Everfree NW Their top down manegerial style was crafted over time, and ordained such that individuals on the small council could render effective decisions of their own volition without verbose proceedings and what not It's based off of other NPO's/// yet I still don't agree with it entirley On the grounds that, yes it's a strong organization built on a strong foundadion But in that time,we had like, two conventions! We hit the ground running, although carelessly... And for two cons, made something that inspired the rest of the world....  Jessica:  Exactly. And I've discussed this with Andrew. Everfree is TOO prudent TOO slow. If I was like Everfree, the first BronyCon wouldn't have occurred until somewhere around March. and not last June. There's a balance to be had.  me:  Yeah, but the real balance is- right now, Everfree's pretty much up to the perfect speed I've been working with them on A/V They take just the right amount of time to turn around paperwork And there's never been wild deliberation either  Jessica:  I must admit my bias to you. I am exceptionally angry at Everfree.  me:  Sure it's a beuracracy, but now that it's up to steam- it's clearly the superior system  Jessica:  They backstabbed me, and us.  me:  Mindless Politics, another flaw with our system  Jessica:  Are you suggesting that being betrayed isn't a valid concern?  me:  Well, I don't think they've ever actually taken such intolerable actions as you're conferring they have... Enlighten me?  Jessica:  On multiple occasions, I've promotd Everfree. I have even put my own reputation, and BronyCon's, at risk to help them. Specifically When that kid who wanted to run Bronystock was scheduling his event date it was going to be very close to Everfree's date. I helped Roy convince him not to do that and in the process, I was within two sentences or so of threatening to blackball half the musicians in the world if they hurt EVERFREE (Which would have hurt BRONYCON) I also told them to give Everfree a 3- or 4-week leeway period and BronyCon only a 1-week I bent over backwards to protect Everfree at the cost of BronyCon.  me:  I think I've heard this one before, the whole thing still seems kinda petty to me... kinda tied to your stigma specifically-  Jessica:  What do you mean?  me:  Sometimes you just need to forgive and forget... it's a powerful virtue  Jessica:  It's not just that  me:  I mean, to you it may seem like they "Screwed us over"  Jessica:  After January, Bejoty-- who was a staffmember-- posted a negative review of BronyCon on the meetup page  me:  But I don't really see anything immediatly negative coming out of it,  Jessica:  Bejoty has been talking smack about me behind my back to the EqD ponies  me:  Oh COME ON! I would have said the same thing had I not been working there, and afraid of your immediate backlash There was some legitimate bloodshead that day The 7th No lying about that no making it all pretty Escapism is fun, but reality's reality  Jessica:  You don't post negative comments about your employer. You just don't do that. Not if you don't want to get fired and possibly blackballed. But at least fired. Anyways The Everfree guys dragged me into a horrific INQUISITION before EqD and other media ponies, asking all kinds of intrusive questions about our finances and legal status, before EqD posted the story about John de Lancie Ben led the questioning he did almost all (if not all) of the talking Pried into things that were none of his business None of Everfree's business None of EqD's business None of anyone's business I answered ALL their stupid questions I even volunteered tremendous sums of information that they DIDN'T yet ask about To PRE-EMPTIVELY answer MORE questions All stuff that is none of anyone's business except BronyCon's  me:  It depends, things you do personally could reverberate loudly throughout the community  Jessica:  It was a fucking inquisition.  me:  But now that you're supposedly no longer involved, it's not really a problem anymore? And besides, nopony expects the Spanish Inquisition...  Jessica:  I'm still involved in Bronycon, I'm just not the chair. And even if I wasn't involved, it wouldn't change the past. This was a brutal interrogation session. They had no fucking business prying into internal BronyCon finances or policies. It was none of their concern. It was incredibly rude and presumptuous.  me:  Well, consider if we where an Actual NPO... EVERYTHING would have to be publicly visible  Jessica:  Up to a point.  me:  As Gaston would say "Publicly Humiliated"  Jessica:  Budgets, yes Not, say, meeting minutes or internal email addresses or whatever. But, yes, to a point  me:  You have to be a politician, as horrible as that sounds Hath ye no dirt, then ye be a fine sutor  Jessica:  Unfortunately, I'm a pony being (more or less)  me:  Yes, in a way we all are Which is why it might have been a little better for somepony with a little more rational for this stuff to step up... I'm not saying Sean But somepony personable Brockert's a good step He's kinda mechanical, I like allot of his style Weather or not he can survive the coming storm, of finances and bookings and everything- Only time will tell  Jessica:  Are you testing me?  me:  No not really It's just petty philosophy I speak my mind too from time to time, it's not always good  Jessica:  I'm not passing judgment on good or bad I was just not aware if you were aware what the effect of your words is.  me:  I'm not aware, I'm often accused of being too oblivious to others- if anything that's my biggest flaw  Sent at 5:35 PM on Thursday  Jessica:  Malfunctioning mirror neurons. Same thing I have. Anyways Watch this clip. This should offer you a little insight into my present mental state.  Jessica:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLvIFRNbqOs   Gollum  Sent at 5:37 PM on Thursday  Jessica:  At this point, if I could switch off my emotions entirely, I probably would.  me:  I see... No, I would too... sounds like an episode of Fairly Odd parents or something LoL But In a way I kinda have I just emulate emotions I lack empathy  Jessica:  ...You never saw 'Lord of the Rings'?  me:  Tis' why I'm lonley No I've seen lord of the rings I have a cardboard cutout of Smegol around somewhere too Haven't seen it in a while  Jessica:  Smeagol was a good pony. He was corrupted by his lust for the One Ring, which was his before the hobbits stole it from him. He hates the hobbits. But he also hates himself. And he's constantly at war with his own dark side.  me:  Self contradiction get's nothing done sadly Just don't jump into the fire If you have that kinda problem, you gotta pull yourself out of involvement with others... because you can't love anyone or anything else until you can learn to love yourself It's a sad fact, that though you have to spend time being unproductive (Which really bothers me) you just gotta, until you can come to terms with yourself  Jessica:  That may never happen.  me:  But surely you believe that someday it may, otherwise why live on in a world with no hope- I'm glad you 're still here because it just means to me that you believe things will get better Somehow  Jessica:  Incorrect. I live on for only one reason. My mother is still alive.  me:  ? Sounds like an odd reason  Jessica:  My mother already lost one child. I won't take another from her. I love her too much If she was dead, I would have committed suicide last week. I had a plan. I was going to do it. Then I remembered her. and I realised I had no out. I am trapped here. I do not wish to exist. But I would rather exist, and suffer for it, then cause her that kind of pain again.  me:  A noble cause, but far from a good reason  Jessica:  Are you suggesting that I should kill myself anyways? Mind you, I wouldn't.  me:  No, quite the opposite actually You have every reason to exist I just long for the day when you'll realize that you can live and love yourself too Sounds impossible?  Jessica:  Highly improbable. I had self-esteem once. When I was .... 3? Then I entered school... It was all downhill from there. I was a very happy little child.  me:  It may be, but for the sake of citing the past- a whole bunch of pretty impossible things have happened  Jessica:  By the time I was a not-so-little child, I was no longer happy.  me:  Yeah, they can be tough in this here public education system You'd have probably been happier had certain testing modifications and other stuff existed  Jessica:  The actual academics were only a small portion of the problem. The other students were the overwhelming majority of the problem. I never thought I'd make it to 18. I thought I'd kill myself first, from the bullying.  me:  But that's no real reason to be sore about it... I was pretty badly brused by the system, and the ponies in it- but I can't be sad about it because- It's inefficient.. and if there's one thing I hate it's inefficiency I guess that's where we differ  Jessica:  I was the 'school nerd'.  me:  You are Ethos, I am Logos- all we're missing is Pathos LoL  Jessica:  I was a verbal punching bag for the entire school population. It was BAD.  Sent at 5:52 PM on Thursday  me:  Didn't you at least have Zorin to stand up 4 you?  Jessica:  I met Zorin when I was 16, and he lived in Miami. I lived in Orlando. By the time I was 16, the bullying was over and the damage was done. The worst years for me were around 6-14 Which happen to be some of the most fundamental formative years for the pony psyche.  Sent at 5:55 PM on Thursday  me:  Wow, so you just continued on damaged from that point on? That's a loong time to hate yourself damn son  Jessica:  You can only be told so many times that you're a worthless ugly stupid pathetic fabric before you start believing every word. Oh, and 'nerd' don't forget that.  me:  Nerd is kinda a re-enforcing word these days though... "Talk to me nerdy" It's kinda like "Nigga" yo- a stigma that's been embraced  Jessica:  Some would say "fabric" is too, but it still stings me and ponies still mostly use that as an insult "nerd", sure, it's been reclaimed in a lot of ways. But anyways This is actually a little off-topic Because this isn't the self-hatred I was referencing I was talking about how I hate myself for how I acted, and act, towards my friends I cringe when I hear how I'd treated Cupcakes so poorly And every time I scream at ponies, I feel awful about it later It's embarrassing. But it's very hard to avoid, because when I get angry, it all comes out directly I don't hide it or bottle it up It just comes out through my mouth. There's no filter there.  me:  The psychologist can help you make dissociations between when to act and when to just listen... Sadly I'm terrible as Psychology We'll get Winter back on board for that one If he can calm minty down like that, he can work mareacles  Jessica:  He calmed Minty down?  me:  Oh yea, that one night with sean and you And she wanted to kill me more legit than usual, and I just gave the phone to winter and she magically understoof I could never do that  Sent at 6:05 PM on Thursday  Jessica:  The problem is actually a lot simpler than that and a lot harder I know when I'm not supposed to say what's on my mind if I actually stopped to think about it and if I was able to act purely on logic and reason Usually, it's pretty obvious when saying something will upsetsomepony and yelling and screaming at them almost always does. The problem is that I never learned to 'think before I speak' I say what is on my mind I don't think beforehand 'Should I say this?'  me:  Yeah, you gotta learn to do that... It's possible I used to ramble on for hours about irrelbint thing back in High School Well, before that It's why I didn't really have any friends  Jessica:  Yep I can relate  me:  I went for Re-socialization therapy helped allot, I had to study it actually... render my thoughts into coherent conversation  Jessica:  I've never had a problem speaking coherently, merely speaking appropriately.  me:  Well, that too- that was a big one actually When I was a kid, I tell ya- I said the worst things  Jessica:  So did I "Why is that lady so fat?"  me:  Just ask women about menstration... do all sorts of weird shit in conversations  Jessica:  yep  me:  Exactly  Jessica:  No filters  me:  and there's therapy that can help with that Totally You should get a legitimate diagnosis sometime though  Jessica:  I'm not certain it would help.  me:  Like, from a Psychiatrist Maybe help you get some state funding for therapy though It does exist  Jessica:  For adults?  me:  I'm not too sure how to apply for it  Jessica:  NON-IMPOVERISHED adults? Most state funding is for poor ponies and/or kids.  me:  Yeah, especially- you may need to be in like, an adult home for a short period of time- but there's definatly socialization programs out there  Jessica:  uuuuhhhhh. Yeah, I'm not going to live in a special pony's home   me:  There's a good center for Autism in Bellmore- not like an asylum or something, it's just a place and they hold programs for autistic adults to meet and compare expriances Pro bono sometimes  Jessica:  Would I be the only one there not stimming or talking through a box? Or is it mostly high-functioning ponies?  me:  Mostly High Functioning, the high functioning ones survive  Jessica:  Sad. (For the implication of what happens to the non-high-functioning ones) I've read essays written by ponies with more conventional capital-A Autism I can't really relate to them Any more than I, as a transgendered female, can relate to gay males I'm on the opposite side of the autistic spectrum like I'm on the opposite side of the LGBT spectrum The only thing I can relate to is facing prejudice  Sent at 6:18 PM on Thursday  Jessica:  Anyways. How's therapy like that work anyhow? Do they challenge you until you can not react? Like, show you the most outrageous thing possible until you can show no reaction to it? Or do something to provoke you until you stop reacting to it?  me:  Not necessarily, they just outright tell you how you should condition your thoughts I mean, yeah they used more advanced tactics sometimes, like double sided mirrors  Jessica:  If it's mostly talk and technique, then perhaps there is a book on the subject. Social appropriateness theory for dummies? The aspie's guide to not being an ashole? ...asshole  me:  Essentially, it's a decision you kinda have to make but the techniques they employ become less noticable over time  Jessica:  What's the decision?  me:  You decide that you can learn, and make things better by doing so Allot of autistic ponies think they're already right and that they have nothing more to learn and that such abstract things could never work  Jessica:  hmmm. Well, part of me feels like not expressing my feelings wholly to a friend is lying. Like, if I'm furious at you, if I hold my tongue and say nothing, it feels like I am doing you a disservice. It's paradoxical, but I think you see what I mean. I'm willing to hide my true feelings from a cop to avoid getting arrested, since I don't see a cop as a pony merely a 'thing' who can harm me like an angry animal, or a lunatic with a gun (which is basically what a cop is) But to my friends, I find it exceptionally difficult to conceal my feelings.  Sent at 6:25 PM on Thursday  me:  I almost wish things where black and white like that sometimes But the world is every shade of grey  Jessica:  I know that in theory. But in practice, I don't FEEL that. If that makes any sense. An example Right now, I basically hate the entire Council. Seething, roiling hatred. Sometimes I can get myself distracted by work my day job, or working on a postcard, or a web page, or whatever But sometimes, somepony says something to set me off, and the hatred and anger boils over and for me NOT to say something becomes almost physically painful.  me:  Is there any way you could talk yourself down from that enraged state?  Jessica:  Perhaps. Such as by reminding myself that I would have done the same thing the Council did or worse in their situation. But it does not change the feelings of betrayal. or of jealousy, or of anger. Or of embarrassment.  Sent at 6:31 PM on Thursday  Jessica:  I don't know if I will ever NOT hate the Council. Or Andrew. Even if I can learn to not show it, or not talk about it I suspect the hatred will remain.  me:  It's interesting, I hate the council because they'er so inefficient... I guess you hate them for that sloppy Coup De' eta  Jessica:  D'etat. And not really I hate them for having a coup in the first place Not for it being sloppy. I hate them for taking what I created away from me. Stealing MY PRECIOUS. Watch the Gollum clip again. That's me.  Sent at 6:34 PM on Thursday  Jessica:  anywyas, l8r  me:  Peace~  Jessica:  Sorry for being such a downer, BTW  me:  It's okay, I needed some grimdark to put my life in perspective~ Hopefully you can take some of my sunshine into yours~  Jessica:  Hopefully! K later