good story

not rly sure why more people dislike it then like it

this story is better than a lot of other fan fics that are liked by more people

can't wait for the next chapter

>> CarcinoGeneticist

I I can't talk to you I'm not worthy!

No I should have messaged you it's just... I mean... um...

I can't say I agree with your portrayal of most of the adult characters - you don't get to keep refusing to explain puberty to your kids when it's actively hitting them, and it makes Rarity and Applejack in particular come off as pretty awful

Oh man, you have no idea just how fucked up the previous generation is. It's the end of an era! Um, anyway I hope their issues will be a little bit less unsympathetic ...in future chapters, if I can write it correctly, I mean... Um... sorry.

Get back to me when you put out your own story.  I'll be interested to see what you can do.

>> Tipper

Honestly I do plan on doing less derivative stuff from this point on. It's just writing a different setup for Growth Spurts that sort of got me started, and it's a bit late to take it back now. I mean, I could delete it from here, but there on my hard drive it remains. It just feels like I still have something good in some way, and I'd feel bad if even just one person appreciated it and I blocked them from seeing it because of a moral argument on what fanfiction should or should not be. Plus it's an interesting experiment, my own sort of "The Most Dangerous Game" where instead of requiring myself to make an OP self insert alicorn OC and still write it good somehow, I ended up half-consciously requiring myself to stick to these existing plot points, and still write it good somehow. If I failed, then this story is good evidence you can use to show people why they shouldn't try to do that.

Hey there DET.

So uh.  

I wanted to write a big shpiel to you about all this hubbub, but honestly I had no idea how to even start.  Thankfully, >> Tipper saved me from the effort and pretty much covered it all for me.  

I agree with pretty much everything he said. I think you have pretty solid writing (though not without a need for some fine-tuning and better editing). You're good enough to write your own stories and your own ideas, and I'd be interested to read them when you do.  I'm actually kind of flattered that you enjoyed my work so much as to rewrite it twice as long as its current word count, that's a hell of an output.  But yeah, I'd really like to see what you can do with your own ideas rather than simply writing a different version of mine.  Heck, the most interesting parts of 'your' version are when you did in fact depart from the existing content; I mean, dang, you took one quick paragraph in my story about the CMC secretly sharing masturbation techniques and extrapolated an entire smut scene out of it. That was really something.  I can't say I agree with your portrayal of most of the adult characters - you don't get to keep refusing to explain puberty to your kids when it's actively hitting them, and it makes Rarity and Applejack in particular come off as pretty awful - but it's at least interesting.

For the record, I'm not condoning or endorsing this or any other case of plagarism. Irony of being fanfic writers aside, I think it's been made pretty clear that this is way too close to the original story for people's tastes, and if you really intended this as more of a love letter than a ripoff, it would have been nice if I could have heard about it from you yourself rather than a random PM from one of my followers.

But I'm not going to bite your head off about it.

I'm challenging you to do better.

Because it's apparent to me that you can.

Get back to me when you put out your own story.  I'll be interested to see what you can do.

--CG

>> dinkyseviltwin

I'm gonna have to say that the "Disgust in Humanity" line was a bit melodramatic, but I think it's fair to say you get a pass, considering how attacked you must feel.  And I apologise for that - I clearly hit the wrong tone.  I never meant to accuse you of stealing attribution.  Heck, the entire point of FanFiction is to literally take an existing plot concept and to run with it in your own direction - how on Earth could I accuse you of wrongdoing in this case?  Even if I suspected you did write this story to try and steal credit from another author without anyone noticing, I wouldn't need to make the accusation in the first place because others did it for me.  So, yeah, that's not what I meant to do at all.  I'm sorry for seeming like it was so.

My point, rather, was that if the concept of FanFiction is to take an existing plot concept and run with it in your own direction, that's not what you have done here.  Whether by coincidence or intention, you've not only got the concept, but also the specific characters, the exact interactions, the plot devices and twists... heck, even right down to Diamond Tiara's masturbation advice, Discord being the one responsible for the transformation, and Scootaloo's sex scene.  Literally everything is the same.  Again, I am NOT accusing you of doing a simple copy-paste of the plot of Growth Spurts.  What I'm saying is that if you HAD set out to do that, you could hardly have done a more accurate job.

I actually did say that you do good characterisation and description.  There's some good writing here.  But the plot is such a mirror-match of Growth Spurts that I can't fail to compare the two.  Literally everything that happens is something that I've read before, down to the fine detail.  Now, I accept the whole "inifinite monkeys producing Shakespeare" thing, so I will grant it's possibly a massive coincidence that the stories are so identical - and if that's the case, then that's some seriously bad luck for you, because it prevents me from enjoying your story as much as I should.  But if that's not the case, the only remaining possibility is that you intentionally followed CarcinoGeneticist's story as closely as possible.  Which means this is, at best, a re-write, not an original piece.  And considering how much ability you actually seem to have, I'd much rather see you write an original piece, because I'd enjoy it more.

The one thing that I'll stand by is that if you did copy Growth Spurts - and I'm emphasising the IF here, giving you fair credit - then you did so without asking permission from CarcinoGeneticist or giving credit until you were called out on not doing so.  And that is pretty uncool.  As for the rest of it?  I like your work.  I want to see you do more work.  I just want that work to be something you created, not something you cribbed by looking over someone else's shoulder, because you're talented enough that I believe I'd enjoy it.

>> Tipper

You have every right to down vote my story. I don't think you're wrong in your feelings because you do honestly want to give thanks to CarcinoGeneticist for coming up with this idea. I just think you've been a little misled like many have as to the harm done from simple imitation. It honestly leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth that I went and carefully returned to a lot of major plot points as in the other story; but it really isn't that bad that I've done so, just kind of uncomfortably fangirlish. So I understand how you feel. And I understand how with those feelings you might come to this conclusion, and you have no real reason to trust me, but...

I swear on my mother's grave that I was never ever trying to take credit from CarcinoGeneticist, or hide my relation to his work at all.

I mean, if I was, I'd have just started from chapter 8, and deleted any comments pointing out a connection. It was truly honestly just a mistake that I didn't put it in the description. There's really no reason I can think of to even write something like this that doesn't involve giving credit to another author. Why would I even want to say I thought this up on the toilet instead of while reading someone else's fic? To brag about how good I am at deciding which lolipone fucks whom first?

So, I just wanted to say that in the hope that it might make you feel less betrayed or disgusted with humanity in general. I don't mean to disparage your entire comment, just your statement that I was trying to somehow steal attribution.

>> shirotora

Thanks for your offer. Um... you're free to suggest any story idea you'd like, I mean. Not entirely sure how keeping to your plot points would be any less reprehensible than keeping to the plot points of that other guy. I do like this story though. This story was the one I fantasized about, so it might be hard to find an idea I like more. Plus a lot of the later story relies on plot earlier, so it would have to change a lot.

There's not much I can say here that hasn't already been said.  Your story does show good promise; you've got a good grasp of characters and interactions.  It just... look, I'll put it this way.

I do in fact believe you when you say that you put a lot of work into making this story your own.  It's just that when you write a story so obviously inspired by an existing work, fail to give any credit to the original piece, and then own up to it only when it's pointed out by reviewers, people are going to raise eyebrows.  And when you handled it by essentially saying, "Oh, yeah, I totally meant to do that all along, but it's not a ripoff because reasons!"  Well... surely you can see why some people here have reacted so negatively?

Again, I'm not trying to make you into the bad guy here, I'm just pointing out that it didn't exactly play out well.  And I have to agree that the similarities between Boy Stuff and Growth Spurts are a little too blatant to be skipped over.  It's one thing to take the concept of "Character unintentionally switches gender to avoid estrous" and run with it in your own direction, but to follow every major plot point so directly... it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

I think the story does have a lot of potential, and I don't at all mind your writing style, but you've got to take this story in its own direction.  Until you make the plot your own, and until it no longer resembles a carbon copy of Growth Spurts, it's impossible not to compare the two - which is bad for you, unfortunately, because it did come first, and Boy Stuff is the one that's left looking like a half-baked remake.  So jump the plot rails, is my advice.  If the comparison to Growth Spurts isn't doing you any favours, make the comparison invalid, and then we can enjoy your story on its own merits.

To put it as straightforward as possible:  If I wanted to read Growth Spurts, I'd read Growth Spurts.  What I want to do, however, is read your story, so give me a reason to do so and my thumbs-down may yet turn into a thumbs-up.

>> dinkyseviltwin You can, but it needs to be your story. Even if you use elements from another, the majority needs to be original. Otherwise, you tick people off for just copying someone else. The problem with this story is, even if you tried to write it a little differently, is that most of it is taken from Growing Pains. There are dozens of ways you could have done it to make it your own. You could even have done (with permission would be best) an alternate version of Growing Pains where Applebloom actually likes being a colt, and takes advantage of it to get laid. Or one where, say, a different filly was turned into a colt - Diamond Tiara, perhaps. Or even one where Discord shows up as a colt because he hasn't been laid in over a millennium.

My offer stands, and with how negatively this story is being received, it wouldn't hurt to scrap this and start over. It's not even that badly written. Hell, it's better written than my first fic, and now I've had three featured. You have potential and can be a good writer.

I've decided, personally, that I'm not nearly as fussed about the idea theft now that you've credited it in the description. I've thought about it, and there are a lot of fanfics that do the same thing to varying degrees; taking ideas and plots from other fanfics, the show, or other shows/books/movies/etc. and putting on a little twist to make it their own. Since you've forked it in a different direction after Apple Bloom stuck her bloom into Scootaloo, this will almost certainly become a different story than what Growth Spurts is/will be.

Is this as good as the original? I don't think so.

Is this unique enough to not get hit by plagiarism rules and deleted from the site? Yes.

Should you continue writing this? Yes, so long as you want to.

>> Starlight Nova

Earless heads?

>> shirotora

Well, I can't prove to you how many hours I spent working on this stuff, but I did put a lot of creative work into it. I'm sorry you don't think it was a worthwhile effort. There are plenty of ways the plot could change which would take credit away from Growth Spurts, such as Twilight spell, Everfree monster, anon magic, inbreeding magic, OC, hospitalization, etc. I just really wanted to have Discord do it, because Fluttershy told him to. I personally think people should be allowed to write a story about that, if they want.

>>55209135520913 Rewriting another author's story in your own words is still ripping it off. The plot, events, conflicts, and character development are all stolen. I understand wanting to write a story inspired by another. I myself am writing a story inspired by The Sweetie Chronicles. The difference is the plot, characters, conflict, and even genre are all different. Instead of one canon character, an OC from a previous story and his wife are traveling the multiverse, and instead of tracking crystals, they're hunting demons they accidentally released. Also, it's more of a light-hearted comedy. Do you see where I'm going with this? Just writing a story about Applebloom's sexual adventures after turning into a colt is fine, but make everything else your own. The potion idea is a good start. That could have been a great way to introduce the problem.

Look, if you want, I'll even help you come up with a story you can write with the same premise but more original. Heck, I'll even help you with prereading if you want. The only thing I ask is that you take this down. You didn't put any real creative work into it, and it isn't right for it to remain.

>> Starlight Nova

Those things in front of Apple Bloom are heads, right?

>> PiMan

I did use many similar plot points, yes. I like those plot points. They're a fun thing to write about.

>>55209135520913

You didn't copy the words, but up to chapter 4 you did seem to copy every plot point and judging by the chapter names, that trend continues.