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  1. [22:47] <Ikea> ahh... I think I know what you're talking about...
  2. [22:48] <Ikea> worked on some headcanon for changelings ages ago, was thinking on running a minor thing with them
  3. 05[22:48] <Rain_Drop> heh
  4. [22:48] <Ikea> could have used one of them pod things...
  5. 05[22:48] <Rain_Drop> WEll see going to do some intersting things with them
  6. [22:48] <Ikea> though, the dragon might have been a bit bigfor that
  7. [22:49] <Ikea> could give you my perpwork on it, if you want?
  8. 05[22:49] <Rain_Drop> for the head cannon you have or the small event you have planned with it?
  9. [22:49] <Ikea> though, it -does- include the actual adventure notes, as well...
  10. [22:49] <Ikea> small event, that might expand if there's interest
  11. [22:50] <Ikea> but... it's been in planning since shortly after LucyQuest, so...
  12. 05[22:50] <Rain_Drop> cuz mine is mre like going through ruins of a civilization/hive that has been ruined and ded although in a rather creepy way
  13. [22:50] <Ikea> hmm...
  14. 05[22:50] <Rain_Drop> Oh then in that case you keep it and surprse us Ikea!
  15. [22:51] <Ikea> kk
  16. 05[22:51] <Rain_Drop> though I could tell you my head cannon of em are like if you want to coop our typs of changeling s or they could even be different subspecies...
  17. [22:51] <Ikea> ooh... that sounds like a thing
  18. [22:52] <Ikea> http://pastebin.com/ujUGvBGx
  19. [22:53] <Ikea> the stuff I'm planning on using for canon on mine
  20. 05[22:53] <Rain_Drop> Well I imagine the Changelings being like the zerg or the race from 40k tryanids I think with being able to evolve but mixed with the geth collective idea where they have the individuality but general conscioncess a hive mind thing
  21. [22:54] <Ikea> hmm... so individuals 'evolve' to fill niches in the hive, with no central intelligence?
  22. [22:55] <Ikea> interesting... altough, that doesn't mesh well with the Queens
  23. 05[22:55] <Rain_Drop> Think of how God is to angels they can think and do stuff but if removed they feel wretched from the abscence of their creator
  24. [22:56] <Ikea> ahh
  25. [22:56] <Ikea> ok
  26. 05[22:56] <Rain_Drop> or like how the cerebrates give guidance to them and a sense of belonging thinkin evil version of a family where everyone can be heard in the collective also I like the drones and primes and Queens although i would make them a bit more intelligent as their culture entirly revolves around staying ingonito as long as they can
  27. 05[22:57] <Rain_Drop> Another thing I REALLY liked was the methods of information obtaining
  28. 05[22:57] <Rain_Drop> though how would you define toture?
  29. 05[22:58] <Rain_Drop> this is mlp so...maybe something like being shown loved ones in danger or being tickled mercilessy/
  30. 05[22:58] <Rain_Drop> ?
  31. [22:58] <Ikea> well, we could go into grimdark with proper torture, but I figure mostly emotional headgames
  32. [22:58] <Ikea> isolation mixed with appearing as loved ones to try to get you to say more than you intend, etc
  33. 05[22:58] <Rain_Drop> Oh! that would work have them take the form of loved ones and family make them freak out
  34. 05[22:58] <Rain_Drop> >hivemind
  35. [22:58] <Ikea> heheh
  36. [22:59] <Ikea> great minds think alike ^_^
  37. 05[22:59] <Rain_Drop> mm!
  38. [22:59] <Ikea> but, yeah. as for the intelligence of drones, I figue they'd be able to do the mimicry on instinct.
  39. [23:00] <Ikea> like how animals display complex patterns during hunts or social rituals and such
  40. 05[23:00] <Rain_Drop> Oh hey got a few things prewritten if you want....so, like a parrot the longer they hang around their target the more they become more liek them?
  41. [23:01] <Ikea> kind of
  42. 05[23:01] <Rain_Drop> Then the only thing reminding them of their place in the swarm is the queens orders and conncetiong?
  43. [23:01] <Ikea> mmm
  44. [23:01] <Ikea> sort of figured that they'd usually acts in groups headed byu a prime
  45. [23:01] <Ikea> by*
  46. [23:02] <Ikea> so the prime would keep the drones in check with a more advanced intelligence and connection to the hive
  47. 05[23:02] <Rain_Drop> ah so like the overlords then in starcraft giving more control for the swarm
  48. [23:02] <Ikea> yeah, kind of
  49. 05[23:02] <Rain_Drop> except more useful
  50. [23:02] <Ikea> heh, yeah
  51. [23:03] <Ikea> I really like the geth idea, though
  52. [23:03] <Ikea> the more drones are in contact, the higher the intelligence...
  53. 05[23:04] <Rain_Drop> mm so did I they are literally a organism that thrives on communism, Mm! And like in starcraft if you got neough biomass you could make a new cerebrate as long as you didnt get some bullshit space amgic that removes your self from the genetic memory of the swarmd
  54. [23:04] <Ikea> maybe primes acting as sort of buffers? They act like a mini-queen when there's not enough drones around to form a decent hive-mind?
  55. [23:05] <Ikea> so that's how new Queens arise?
  56. 05[23:05] <Rain_Drop> mm that would work I just kinda liked the idea of them being their own individual tho and some agents are lost as they become to involved intheir role and out of service of their queen
  57. [23:06] <Ikea> hmm...
  58. [23:06] <Ikea> the longer they stay transformed, the more of an identity they get?
  59. 05[23:07] <Rain_Drop> Although the direct deccendents of the queen would have a higher claim to that spot, unless the primes are all daughters of the queen...oooh I like that idea since it would play into how would this pony react to this situation and their memories begin to get over welmed and the emotions they feed on start to last longer since their is more of it being directed to them the more they are known
  60. [23:07] <Ikea> so, they'd have to come back to the hive to 'reset' every now and then to avoid getting too deep in the role..?
  61. 05[23:08] <Rain_Drop> Would make sense that tehy would travel in pairs then one stays as changeling observing the process like a handler then tags out when the other becomes too deep?
  62. [23:08] <Ikea> Queens could be done like bees. When the hive decides, they take a new born prime and bathes it in royal 'honey'
  63. [23:08] <Ikea> yeah, though I'd say larger groups than pairs.
  64. 05[23:09] <Rain_Drop> I still like the idea that a few of the inflitrators get lost and become full fledged individuals once they get too deep or something
  65. [23:09] <Ikea> like, any group under 6 needs a prime to act as a handler
  66. [23:09] <Ikea> mmm, I do too.
  67. 05[23:09] <Rain_Drop> whoa
  68. [23:10] <Ikea> just think that the hive itself would loathe that, so they'd make protocols to make sure that agents aren't lost
  69. 05[23:10] <Rain_Drop> Freaky had 7 changelings in charge of the cottage with one bigger one ....
  70. [23:10] <Ikea> ...
  71. [23:10] <Ikea> COINCIDENCE!
  72. 05[23:11] <Rain_Drop> Mm, could have it that en route a prime is slain or is out of contact as he had to scoot due to authorites and the 6 are stuck in their roles unable to returns without arising suspicison...Maybe ikea mabye hue
  73. [23:12] <Ikea> sounds good
  74. [23:12] <Ikea> or that the prime was busy for some reason and when he tried to get the agents back in order, they rebelled and deposed of it
  75. [23:13] <Ikea> of course, the cottage situation could be explained by the Prime being taken over by the gem as well
  76. 05[23:14] <Rain_Drop> Would make for a cool arc then if we came across some ponies that turned out to be changelings...oh tahts cool could even have a secret service in the kingdom that handles immigration of changelings turned pony like the protective witnesses!
  77. [23:14] <Ikea> so he lost this loyalty to the queen
  78. [23:14] <Ikea> LOVE IT!
  79. 05[23:15] <Rain_Drop> Get outta my head Ikea! The gem was exactly what caused the whole issue as it dissolved the command structure of the hive making the individual ego more powerful to the swarm where its for the swarm it became for me!
  80. [23:17] <Ikea> yeah, figured
  81. [23:24] <Ikea> ... actually, that makes for a great 'in' for my adventrue... should get one that after yours
  82. 05[23:25] <Rain_Drop> Hm?
  83. [23:26] <Ikea> well, sort of needed a reason for the changelings to come out here
  84. 05[23:27] <Rain_Drop> ah well this Hive is well to be honest sorta ded
  85. [23:28] <Ikea> yeah, but say they have legends of it existing and come for an arceological expedition or something
  86. 05[23:29] <Rain_Drop> that works was going to have the greed gem be somehting of a one of kind obejct that sorta caused dragons to be cursed with that greed curse thing
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