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Do or Deer: Screenplay
(Alternate name: "Truth or Deer")
Title subject to change, "Do or Deer" as a working title for now.
FAQ:
What's this all about?
We're making a show-accurate episode without any panda rings to show the fandom how it's done. There will be no IWTCIRD, no Milky, no Tracy, no shipping and no other hidden jokes "only someone browsing 4chan would get". We're staying true to the show.
The writing staff will probably even be credited as anonymous.
Original idea by Lauren Faust:
A cut episode involved Rainbow Dash and Applejack encountering a deer family in Whitetail Wood, and a pony living among them. This pony would have had branches tied to his head because he was abandoned as a filly and raised by a deer. It is unknown whether the deer would have been sentient or not. The conflict would have been between Dash (who would have wanted to reveal the truth) and Applejack (who would have wanted to leave well enough alone).
Will I get credited?
Unless you're a VA or animator and request to be credited, no. The written work that goes into this is all anonymous. "You know who you are. Congradulations"
Will you advertise this?
Not until we know for sure everything has been dealt with and we can give a deadline. Probably after animation is finished = a long time from today
What's the premise of the episode?
The ponies find a family of deer in Whitetail Woods and a pony with branches for antlers living among the deer.
Is the deer pony a mare or a colt?
Only male deers grow antlers, so it's a colt, a male.
How old is the deer pony?
He is around the age of the CMC, a little older; just about to hit puberty.
What's his name?
"Treebark". His adoptive deer father's name is Redwood and his deer mother's name is Mapleleaf.
When does this take place?
Between Season 1 and Season 2 (IE. no Twilicorn).
Estimated runtime: 22 minutes with credits. (Divided into opening and three arcs, like an actual episode, timeframe for an example episode: line 454)
Summary:
* Fluttershy finds an earth pony living among deer in Whitetail Woods
* Treebark, the deer pony, was orphaned and taken in by the deer, and thinks he is a deer
* Fluttershy and the other mane 5 show Treebark around Ponyville
* Some mane 6 start arguing about whether he should stay in Ponyville
* He takes in both the good and the bad, but ultimately decides on remaining with his deer family.
* "Home is where the heart is" moral.
This is just an outline, script will be made later.
All lines are proposed ideas, not final.
Opening:
* A shot of Whitetail woods, springtime/summertime
* MLP: FiM logo appears, with "/mlp/ presents" in small letters above and "A full-length fan-episode" below.
* Logo fades away and the title appears.
*
* Shot pans/cuts to Fluttershy escorting some squirrels to their home
* As the squirrels enter their treehole, Fluttershy is startled by a noise.
* She nervously peeks her head into the next clearing to see what is there
Two possible openings:
* There is a family (mother/father and son) of migrating deer, feeding on berries.
* Initially she is in wonder, then she notices something.
* She notices one of the the deer is actually an earth pony wearing sticks as antlers
* It notices her too, and she quickly runs away startled.
* Fluttershy runs to Twilight to tell her what she saw.
* Fluttershy enters the library.
* "Twilight! Twilight! There's a pony living out in the woods with some deer!"
* Twilight turns away from her books, confused.
* "Well I have read that deer migrate around these parts this time of year. Why would there be a pony living with them though?"
* Fluttershy responds: "I don't know, I didn't know what to do so I just came here."
* Twilight: "Well I'll round up the others and see if we can find them. If anything, this gives me a unique opportunity to study some deer. I've never met any before."
__OR__
* In a bush in the clearning, what appears to be a young deer pops its head out.
* Fluttershy, confused as to why there would be a deer this close to the edge of the forest (or something like that, she knows a lot about animals) assumes it is lost (she talks out loud about it) but as she approches it exists the bush and picks at some berries.
* She realizes it is in fact a light brown colt, with mud on his coat and sticks for antlers.
* Two possible suggestions: After eating the berries, it turns around and notices her too, and quickly runs back into the bush that it came from. or he's actually spying at her, curious, then she sees him and he runs off?
* Fluttershy runs to Twilight in her house to tell her what she saw.
* Fluttershy enters the house, to find Twilight reading (ironically) a book about deer.
* "Twilight! Twilight! There's a pony living out in the woods
* Twilight turns away from her books, confused.
* "Well I have read that deer migrate around these parts this time of year. Why would there be a pony living with them though?"
* Fluttershy responds: "I don't know, I didn't know what to do so I just came here."
* Twilight: "Well I'll round up the others and see if we can find them. If anything, this gives me a unique opportunity to study some deer. I've never met any before."
OR
* Scene fades to Fluttershy leading the others into the woods.
* Fluttershy: "It was just around here, I saw a young colt out in the woods with the deer"
* Twilight: "Well if you're right, he might need our help."
* Applejack: "I'll see what I can do to track them, but I don't have no practice followin' deer."
* The group passes into the clearing where FS saw the deer
* Fluttershy: "They were right here ..."
* Applejack: "Well they must have moved. C'mon y'all, they must still be nearby."
* Applejack says this line as she moves through the bushes, her head turned to the group.
* Applejack bumps into a large stag.
* Applejack is startled and retreats to the main clearing.
* Twilight and Fluttershy, who are looking around unaware, notice Redwood entering the clearing.
* Stag (Redwood): "What are you ponies doing snooping around out here?"
* Twilight approaches: "Oh, my name is Twilight Sparkle and these are my friends. I'm sorry if we've disturbed you."
* Stag (Redwood): "My name is Redwood. My family and I are only passing through. We try not to get involved with the affairs of pony kind."
* Twilight, interrupting: "Ahh yes. Well we came here to talk about that. My friend Fluttershy ..." Shot of Fluttershy bashfully hunched over. "... here said there was a pony out here with you."
* Redwood, looking surprised, then angry: "I think you should be on your ..."
* Deer Pony (Treebark), interrupting, comes out of the bush: "Dad! There you ar ... oh" (he notices the ponies).
* Mother deer enters as well: "Redwood, what's going on?"
* Redwood, turning: "It's ok Mapleleaf, take Treebark back to the other clearing."
* Mapleleaf starts to lead Treebark off
* Treebark: "Wait mom! I recognize that one. We saw her earlier, remember?" He's pointing, the shot cuts to Fluttershy. "She's different like me dad! She brought friends too!"
* Treebark is a young colt, older than grade school, but younger than the mane 6. He has no cutie mark, presumably because he thinks he is a deer.
* At this point, the trio has grouped close to the deer family.
* Redwood is noticably upset, Mapleleaf is concerned, and Treebark and the three are excited.
Everything below this line is for reference. Suggestions go there.
Timings:
1:05 - Opening scene (+0:35 for theme song)
5:10 - Act 1
8:15 - Act 2
6:17 - Act 3 (+0:27 for credits theme)
= 21:52
What is the moral of the episode? (A letter to Celestia would be a big plus)
* Don't try to change someone's way of life without knowing his reasons to live that way
* Be careful before thinking that you know what's best for another pony better than the pony knows for herself.
* Don't fix what isn't broken
"Dear Princess Celestia,
Today I learned that although a pony may live differently than somepony else, that doesn't make them any less of a pony... or deer than anypony else. When discussing someone's future, you need to take that person's wishes into account, even if they don't want what you think is best for themselves. Also, something about what your'e born as not defining what you are. You can live your dreams and make it your destiny ect.
A:
Summarize the story in THREE sentences: What is the premise, what kind of conflict arises during the episode, how is it resolved?
B:
Write an outline of the intro and the three acts of the episode.
C:
Double check everything on consistency and alternative solutions/events.
GoogleDoc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SPFM-OFffCs09zeqExxDvM2EpIvzAJm05WVyedmL-1s/edit
OUTLINE:
FIRST MEETING WITH TREEBARK
>he's alone, scared of yellow timid (shocked to see how much similar they are, but that's hard to convey), runs away, she's worried, can't track him, goes back to seek help
>he's with the other deers, add some more cuz i don't really know what should happen next:
Main focus has shifted from deer pony to the disagreements of the Mane 6.
Think Deerpony should stay in the forest:
AJ: for the family also applebloom says: remember with zecora?
Spike: like how Spike chose to stay with ponies, who were his parents throughout his life, the deer should choose to stay with the deer parents. Running joke about Spike being the voice of reason that no one listens to, throughout the episode.
(why is spike getting a role?)+1Because his situation is EXACTLY like Treebark's, so he's the only character that can relate to him. Not putting Spike in the episode would just be purposely ignoring him for no reason.
Pinkie: I really think she would compromise, everypony smiling
I think she should say something like where ever makes you smile or something
Oblivious that he's really [not?] a deer; fooled by branch antlers?
OVER A BARREL, we all have hooves at the end of each leg, cmon pinkie is much more than just smile smile smile
Think Deerpony should live in p'ville:
RD: thinks the best for him is civilization. Caring but Insensitive
Twilight?: "Statistics state that ponies do better in established civilizations." <- doesn't sound like twilight.
Rarity: "How could a pony possibly live with such... wild creatures?">implying applejack
Undecided: Fluttershy
Pinkie?
Deer:
Like gypsies? Wandering around like nomads without houses, laying in the sun, eating grass, living the 60s?
I imagine them as druids or wood elves.
Deer can speak, but only to other Deer due to being shy/skittish?
I think the deer only talk to family, those known to them.
deers don't speak much but are fully sentient. mysterious.
Moral: when discussing someone's future, you need to take that person's wishes into account, even if they don't want what's best for themselves.
Idea: I'm still firmly in the camp of Antlers thinking he's a deer, the deer playing along with him, and the big reveal upsetting him so much that he runs away.That could workPerhaps an encounter with Spike who can relate to him.
Idea: Maybe we don't show the colt in this entire sequence, but keep him out of frame? We could cut to an opening theme at the part where Fluttershy sees -something-, which is not shown. After that would be the part where Fluttershy is shown telling the others
>Fluttershy goes into Whitetail Woods because of squirrels needing her help.
>Hears loud deer snort.
>Checks it out.
>Deer are semi-sapient, ponies and deer have a similar kind of relationship as humans and other great apes do.
>Fluttershy about to leave, apologising.
>Hears a voice telling her not to worry about it.
>Reveals a young colt with branches on his head.
>Fluttershy shocked into silence.
>Colt asks what's wrong, zooms in on colt triple zoom, scary chords
>theme tune here
>runs back to town
>gathers mane6 in library
>tells them
>they go into whitetail woods to search for filly why didn't she brought her herself? Shocked to the point that she ran off without thinking. Scared of alpha-male looking big deer who is defending deerpone?
>find him, along with deer
>they seem friendly
>they ask what he's doing there
"What do you mean? I'm a deer! I live here!"
>tension rises between rainbow dash/twilight sparkle, who insists she's a pony, and [insert pony, maybe Pinkie+?] who says she's whatever she wants to be.
>Rest of cast say she can make up her own mind, but she should see the pony world first.
>convince her to visit ponyville
>tells her of wonderous techonlolgies
>she agrees
End act one.
>enter ponyville
>everyone gives filly with branches on her head funny looks
>"RD, please come inside"
>RD keeps trying to convince her to take them off / "Accidentally" knocking them off her head (We'd want to avoid making RD too much of a jerk, she could instead be hovering over him and start trying to lift the horns off, but then whistles innocently with her hooves behind her back when he notices her) This sounds alot better I too approve of this.Thirded+
>do tourist stuff, visit each pony's house/workplace (Which is where the song could happen)
Yeah, i would like a song in here.Good idea, but what would it be about, who'd sing?
mane6 sing it, all try to show how good civilized life is IMO like rarity put on nice dresses which don't really fit her, PP party which is way too loud for her etc.
A song that every part starts with the same thing, like "I would like to show how we live Ponyville", or something like that, and every part of the song is sung by a different pony from the Mane 6.
[AJ gives her all kinds of rich apple based foods her stomach cant handle she almost enjois it here, but they quickly take her to fluttershy][fluttershy introduces her to friendly bear, shes scared as fuck][twilightgives her a book, tries to eat it][RD lifts her and takes her flying, nearly shits herself]It should probably end right before AJ's part, considering that it's what's going to be used in the next scene, and is the only part the deerpony kinda enjoysyer probably right(This isn't all one person, I was just highlighting posts that aren't part of the act ~PA)
Instead of her stomach being unable to handle the foods, how about she's full of food in the next shot?
>she's not impressed
i'd like to make him nervous while indoors, but that might seem like a re-hash of chickenpone from Canterlot Games ep.(claustrophobia is common for outdoor critters, so might as well emphasize a freakout about the walls.)
>most at home on AJ's farm, helping plant crops (she's an earth pony)i don't think she has a clue at planting
>She and AJ do farmwork while rest discuss her in the barn.poor AJ, always in the background
>half say she should stay in forest, half say she's better of in p'ville.
Flttrshy: I'm thinking Twilight-Fluttershy-Pinkie Pie for forest, RD-Rarity for ponyville. What about Applejack?
>twilight unsure.
>AJ walks in, having left her outside planting
>AJ voices opinion
Not sure what yet, but I think I can see her siding with RD on this.rarity should definitely side with RD on this
>Discussion gets heated
>hear voice
>Colt is at the door.
"I-I think I want to go home now"
>ponies arguing for forcing him to stay look ashamed
>they agree to take her back to forest
>Need Pinkie/Rarity in here somewhere
Maybe we expand the "touring" part to Mane 6 trying hard to be his mentors I glossed over the tour because it'd be easy to fill out.
>Twilight sparkle tries to perform psychological tests on him, rorschach pictures and stuff>this
>Rarity tries to make a dreamy colt from him styling his mane. He ruins it back and returns the twigs.
>Pinkie Pie throws him a party (Well duh). He's like what. Initially interested but than something happens and then scared as fuck.
>RD is impressed by the tricks he has shown in the forest, want to learn it from him. He have no idea why he should perform something when there's no danger<ok but i don't like the last part. also she should "scare" him when she ask him to teach her (she's too pushy)
>pretty obvious, but he should bond with flutteshy more (she should give him a "chance", discord-style)
His personality seems to be chalking up to be similar to Fluttershy, so of course they would bond. Of course, Fluttershy tries to introduce her to her friendly bear, and he's learned that bears are bad, so it scared him and... you know the drill.This I can get behind
>
End act 2.
Act 3 *Ideas*
Rainbow Dash seems to be the focus of this episode, so the third act should focus around her and the colt.No. Just no. Rainbow Dash is NOT the focus of the episode
The following is my own idea
>Indeed, they find that the colt's 'tribe' is missing!
>Either the colt freaks out or Fluttershy freaks out, and the rest of the mane6 are worried either way. Whichever of those two didn't freak out will be calm and look around for tracks. I think the colt should be the one who can follows footprints, since it's about him needing his family.
Or perhaps, Rainbow Dash has a "What have I done?" moment, and the colt starts tracking. This leads Dash to have a sympathy moment
Lots of people dont like Timberwolves. Replace?i don't like the idea of an action scene, personally. believable characterization instead?
>consider new species,
>get drawfags to make us some species
>Pony-Golem?
> (Discussion)What if there's no enemy? There needs to be some kind of conflict for deer pone to solve /What if some of the pone think that deer pone is weird for thinking she's a deer, so she feels harrassed?What if they're fillies? (Tiara and Spoon pone)/Liking the idea of deerpone being harrassed by DT and SS, makes sense/[im thinking mane6 take deerpone back into woods disheartened by progress and gets "chased" by something(who the fuck knows what) into a deep complex of caverns or a swamp or something and deer pone uses wilderness experience growing up with deer to get them out of it. they all accept her for who she is]/But if this is all in the forest, why would Ponyville/antagonists care? I'm saying we dont need an antagonist antagonists are hard to writeBut why would she become disheartened? going off premise that mane6 thinks deer pone needs to be reassimilated into ponyvilleAhhhh, okay. I get it.
We do not want to add another problem/conflict! BAD BAD BAD!
>A lack of villain will lead to a lack of conflict, atleast antagonist. Tiara and Spoon pones are antagonists? YepHow are Diamond Tiara/Silver Spoon going to fit in ? So far the deerpony's been with the Mane 6 the entire time, and in the end of the act above ↑, they just agreed to take her homeThey're going to tour deerpone, right? They can just be walking past and whispering bad things about her/her antlers. Also, look at note 51. This can be easily added there.That could work, but in that case, they would just be a contributing factor to her wanting to go home, and not the main reason, right ? Exactly. We can build up to her wanting to go home.real antagonist should be ponyville's closed mindset (again, remember zecora)I'm wondering if and how Zecora will fit into this?i think she should somehow, time is a big problem
>enter clearing where deer were
>they're nowhere to be found
>mane six befuddled while filly rushes around worried, examining clearing
>filly uses tracking skill to explain what happened with flashbacks, Aragorn stylethis
>ambushed by timberwolves
>filly follows tracks into forest
>mane 6 give chase
>find deer family surrounded by timberwolves
>twilight catches filly before she charges with magic
"It's too dangerous for you"
>mane 6 attract timberwolves attention
>they turn to face mane 6, but deer are still trapped
>fight scene
>each of mane 6 at some point hesitate, allowing a timberwolf to knock them out of action in various ways
>timberwolves turn back to deer
>all seems lost
>filly charges with the force of a thousand suns
>knocks timberwolves apart in one charge
>timberwolves half reform and limp off with tails between legs
>filly knocked out
>she comes to surrounded by ponies and deer
>has bits of timberwolf lodged in head where antlers would be (not sure if this is a good idea), might have to scrap it
>mane 6 surprised with ferocity of her onslaught
>decide the deer are her real family and she belongs there
>possibly get cutie mark for tracking?
>letter to princess; "It's not who you were born to, but who raised you that makes you who you are" or something
>Far too Deus Ex ending,
>Agreed
Whole ending will probably be rewirtten, Timberwolves have to go. <agreed<Also agree<agree<agree<agree
the whole ending just seems too overused imo.
all fail to win vs the enemy and then 1 does it with courage, maybe it's just me, seems too happen too often
it's not necessarily the wolves, just any antagonist in general. i think we had it too often on the show, like flutter vs the dragon or twi vs the hyrda etc.
That's why I left the conversation at the top, so we'd remember that ending is going to be rewritten. We should probably draft new ending soon
Maybe there could be more focus on the other deers dissapearing (for a reason other than timber wolves, not sure yet), and the deerpony having to use the tracking skills she's learnt whilst living with the deer, and gets her cutie mark when finding them ? (then letter, etc)[if we make deer pone a young mare instead of a filly, she can already have her cutie mark(deer spots) to show how being a deer is really what shes good at the mane 6 should have realized this all along. Also this will make her look more like a deer Isn't that a bit of a stretch for a cutie mark?not necessarily, being a deer is what shes goos at Deer spots as a Cutie Mark isn't the best idea.Why not?how about a cutie mark in shape of deer hoof?That sounds good
end act 3 God speed you g
Original idea by Lauren:
A cut episode involved Rainbow Dash and Applejack encountering a deer family in Whitetail Wood, and a pony living among them. This pony would have had branches tied to his head because he was abandoned as a filly and raised by a deer. It is unknown whether the deer would have been sentient or not. The conflict would have been between Dash (who would have wanted to reveal the truth) and Applejack (who would have wanted to leave well enough alone).
SCRIPT:TO BE REVISED IF NOT DELETED
Fluttershy appears in the middle of the Whitetail Woods, walking with a group of squirrels. Squirrrels are chattering, worried.
Fluttershy: "Oh, don't worry, little squirrels. You'll be back with your parents soon"
Fluttershy hears a loud snort and quietly yells, scaring off the squirrels. Fluttershy fearing wildlife noises?Startled, maybe
Fluttershy: "What was that?!"
Theres a silence and again the snort is heard.
Fluttershy, shaken, hides in a nearby bush and peeks out to see a young colt with branches behind his ears standing in front of the deer, eating with them or some shit. Show Fluttershy's shocked face, then intro plays.colt alone and lost in the forest? they might not realize his story at first Again, nothing shocking in a filly communicating with animals. Fluttershy does this herself all the time. Maybe she hears the filly calling the deer Mom and dad or something. Deers don't talk. Or do they? The family shouldn't talk, but i don't know, that's what Lauren's idea was. Maybe they communicate with snorts? Yeah, something like that. They should know to say "Yes" and "No" by moving their heads. Maybe intimidating alpha male snort was what scared fluttershy in the first place? Yup.
deers should talk. how else will deerpony know how to talk?yeah this guy has a point. Deerpony doesn't knows how to talk. She does if I had my way Maybe deer pone realizes she can talk after hearing other pones talk? Actually, changed my mind, deerpone ought to talkYou don't just "realize you can talk" though, deer would have to talk as much as other four-legged creaturesMaybe they have their own accent or something.That could work, or maybe some other language oddity that differenciates them from normal pony speechWhat could that oddity be?im thinking some kind of celtic accent maybeLike someone else said, he'd avoid using anything that's pony-specific. Why not have her see the pone running with the herd over a hill and out of sight? Or maybe just a glimpse of the pones leg, thus spurring the reaction we want.WAIT WAIT WAIT have we ever seen deer on screen in any episode and if so have they seemed a little...not able to talk?
I believe something nice about the story should that the deer pony doesn't knows how to talk, but she somehow understands what they say.
that will be pretty hard to write then though < The point is that it should be well-written.animation will be the key here
Possible library gag before fluttershy arrives?super important list, deer pone will eat it (maybe later during the song)
After the intro screen, Fluttershy is running back to town, looking for Twilight
She opens the door of the Golden Oak Library hitting it.
Fluttershy: Twilight! pant pant Whitetail Woods pant HELP!(swoons maybe) < Or something like that, change it. Whatever it is she's saying, she's freaked out and speaking too erraticaly for twilight to understand.[it seems like fluttershy is too freaked. she just saw a pony after all. im thinking she should originally find deer pone in some kind if danger]
Twilight: "Fluttershy, calm down! I can't understand what you're saying."
Fluttershy takes a deep breath and explains - actual wording still pending
Twilight: Oh my gosh, a real feral pony! I've been reading about them a lot lately. Like that case when they found a filly raised by wild boars near Baltimare? Did you know that boar language doesn't have past tense? I'm so excited to see a feral foal for myself… [Mengele expression] and perform some harmless tests on him!
twilight should be first responder to get in this joke from the 4chan thread:
>Fluttershy finds her right?
>She prolly assumes all ponies have wings like her
>Fluttershy comes with her friends
>deerpony to twilight: "why don't you have wings?"lel
>"sweet celestia she really doesn't know anything about ponies!"
this might be a terrible idea Nah, it could work, although she might also pick up on Twi's horn it was supposed to be a very subtle reference(dont hit me!) to the alicorn dramaOh, right. Well, my point still standssorry can you explain a lttle betterWell you said deerpone might see fluttershy and figure all pones have wings, right, and then she sees twi and goes 'why don't you have wings?'. But that damn horn would also be pretty hard to overlookyeah i guess youre right ill just leave this convo here and then the leaders can decide whether to delete it or not
Marko: Alright, I think the cold open should not feature the deer pony just yet, but instead go something like this:
>Fluttershy leading squirrels into forest
>Starts hearing strange noises, gets scared
>(Note that the squirrels don't get scared)
>Bushes start rattling
>FS ducks thinking a monster will come out
>Instead a bunch of deer start running past her
>She looks at them with a mixture of fear and wonder
>She tries to greet one of them
>The last one in line looks at her briefly before dashing off
>FS briefly wonders aloud what they're in such a hurry for
>Suddenly, giant monster roar
>The squirrels run off towards where FS had been leading them from
>Zoom in on Fluttershy's scared face as music swells
And then after the intro, have the deer filly come in and scare the monster off or something. Then go with whatever you're going for from there.
How's that?The colt deer scares off a monster?how about no monster? the colt just couldn't keep up their pace and is left behind, fluttershy discovers he's actually a pone >theme song
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What's this all about?
akes her flying, nearly shits herself]It should probably end right before AJ's part, considering that it's what's going to be used in the next scene, and is the only part the deerpony kinda enjoysyer probably rightsong should end with all ponyville singing or something - gonna need lots of voices
>she's not impressed
i'd like to make her nervous while indoors, but that might seem like a re-hash of chickenpone from Canterlot Games ep.(clausterphobia is common for outdoor critters, so might as well emphasize a freakout about the walls.)
>most at home on AJ's farm, helping plant crops (she's an earth pony)i don't think she has a clue at planting
>She and AJ do farmwork while rest discuss her in the barn.poor AJ, always in the background
>half say she should stay in forest, half say she's better of in p'ville.
>twilight unsure.
>AJ walks in, having left her outside planting
>AJ voices opinion
Not sure what yet, but I think I can see her siding with RD on this.rarity should definitely side with RD on this
>Discussion gets heated
>hear voice
>filly is at the doorisn't he a colt again?
"I-I think I want to go home now"
>ponies arguing for forcing her to stay look ashamed
>they agree to take her back to forest
>Need Pinkie/Rarity in here somewhere
Maybe we expand the "touring" part to Mane 6 trying hard to be her mentors I glossed over the tour because it'd be easy to fill out.
>Twilight sparkle tries to perform psychological tests on him, rorschach pictures and stuff>this
>Rarity tries to make a dreamy colt from him styling his mane. He ruins it back and returns the twigs.
>Pinkie Pie throws him a party (Well duh). He's like what. Initially interested but than something happens and then scared as fuck.
>RD is impressed by the tricks he has shown in the forest, want to learn it from him. He have no idea why he should perform something when there's no danger<ok but i don't like the last part. also she should "scare" him when she ask him to teach her (she's too pushy)
>pretty obvious, but he should bond with flutteshy more (she should give him a "chance", discord-style)
>
End act 2.
Lots of people dont like Timberwolves. Replace?i don't like the idea of an action scene, personally. believable characterization instead?
>consider new species,
>get drawfags to make us some species
>Pony-Golem? http://th01.deatviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/005/e/f/pegasus_pony_golem_by_blazingamer-d5qhnnz.png
> What if there's no enemy? There needs to be some kind of conflict for deer pone to solve What if some of the pone think that deer pone is weird for thinking she's a deer, so she feels harrassed.What if they're fillies. (Tiara and Spoon pone)Liking the idea of deerpone being harrassed by DT and SS, makes sense[im thinking mane6 take deerpone back into woods disheartened by progress and gets "chased" by something(who the fuck knows what) into a deep complex of caverns or a swamp or something and deer pone uses wilderness experience growing up with deer to get them out of it. they all except her for who she is]But if this is all in the forest, why would Ponyville/antagonists care?im saying we dont need an antagonist antagonists are hard to writeBut why would she become disheartened? going off premise that mane6 thinks deer pone needs to be reassimilated into ponyvilleAhhhh, okay. I get it.
>A lack of villain will lead to a lack of conflict, atleast antagonist. Tiara and Spoon pones are antagonists? YepHow are Diamond Tiara/Silver Spoon going to fit in ? So far the deerpony's been with the Mane 6 the entire time, and in the end of the act above ↑, they just agreed to take her homeThey're going to tour deerpone, right? They can just be walking past and whispering bad things about her/her antlers. Also, look at note 51. This can be easily added there.That could work, but in that case, they would just be a contributing factor to her wanting to go home, and not the main reason, right ? Exactly. We can build up to her wanting to go home.real antagonist should be ponyville's closed mindset (again, remember zecora)I'm wondering if and how Zecora will fit into this?i think she should somehow, time is a big problem
>enter clearing where deer were
>they're nowhere to be found
>mane six befuddled while filly rushes around worried, examining clearing
>filly uses tracking skill to explain what happened with flashbacks, Aragorn stylethis
>ambushed by timberwolves
>filly follows tracks into forest
>mane 6 give chase
>find deer family surrounded by timberwolves
>twilight catches filly before she charges with magic
"It's too dangerous for you"
>mane 6 attract timberwolves attention
>they turn to face mane 6, but deer are still trapped
>fight scene
>each of mane 6 at some point hesitate, allowing a timberwolf to knock them out of action in various ways
>timberwolves turn back to deer
>all seems lost
>filly charges with the force of a thousand suns
>knocks timberwolves apart in one charge
>timberwolves half reform and limp off with tails between legs
>filly knocked out
>she comes to surrounded by ponies and deer
>has bits of timberwolf lodged in head where antlers would be (not sure if this is a good idea), might have to scrap it
>mane 6 surprised with ferocity of her onslaught
>decide the deer are her real family and she belongs there
>possibly get cutie mark for tracking?
>letter to princess; "It's not who you were born to, but who raised you that makes you who you are" or something
>Far too Deus Ex ending,
>Agreed
Whole ending will probably be rewirtten, Timberwolves have to go. <agreed<Also agree<agree<agree
the whole ending just seems too overused imo.
all fail to win vs the enemy and then 1 does it with courage, maybe it's just me, seems too happen too often
it's not necessarily the wolves, just any antagonist in general. i think we had it too often on the show, like flutter vs the dragon or twi vs the hyrda etc.
That's why I left the conversation at the top, so we'd remember that ending is going to be rewritten. We should probably draft new ending soon
Maybe there could be more focus on the other deers dissapearing (for a reason other than timber wolves, not sure yet), and the deerpony having to use the tracking skills she's learnt whilst living with the deer, and gets her cutie mark when finding them ? (then letter, etc)[if we make deer pone a young mare instead of a filly, she can already have her cutie mark(deer spots) to show how being a deer is really what shes good at the mane 6 should have realized this all along. Also this will make her look more like a deer Isn't that a bit of a stretch for a cutie mark?not necessarily, being a deer is what shes goos at Deer spots as a Cutie Mark isn't the best idea.Why not?how about a cutie mark in shape of deer hoof?That sounds good
end act 3 God speed you g
Original idea by Lauren:
A cut episode involved Rainbow Dash and Applejack encountering a deer family in Whitetail Wood, and a pony living among them. This pony would have had branches tied to his head because he was abandoned as a filly and raised by a deer. It is unknown whether the deer would have been sentient or not. The conflict would have been between Dash (who would have wanted to reveal the truth) and Applejack (who would have wanted to leave well enough alone).
SCRIPT:
Fluttershy appears in the middle of the Whitetail Woods, walking with a group of squirrels. Squirrrels are chattering, worried.
Fluttershy: "Oh, don't worry, little squirrels. You'll be back with your parents soon"
Fluttershy hears a loud snort and quietly yells, scaring off the squirrels. Fluttershy fearing wildlife noises?Startled, maybe
Fluttershy: "What was that?!"
Theres a silence and again the snort is heard.
Fluttershy, shaken, hides in a nearby bush and peeks out to see a young colt with branches behind his ears standing in front of the deer, eating with them or some shit. Show Fluttershy's shocked face, then intro plays.colt alone and lost in the forest? they might not realize his story at first Again, nothing shocking in a filly communicating with animals. Fluttershy does this herself all the time. Maybe she hears the filly calling the deer Mom and dad or something. Deers don't talk. Or do they? The family shouldn't talk, but i don't know, that's what Lauren's idea was. Maybe they communicate with snorts? Yeah, something like that. They should know to say "Yes" and "No" by moving their heads. Maybe intimidating alpha male snort was what scared fluttershy in the first place? Yup.
deers should talk. how else will deerpony know how to talk?yeah this guy has a point. Deerpony doesn't knows how to talk. She does if I had my way Maybe deer pone realizes she can talk after hearing other pones talk? Actually, changed my mind, deerpone ought to talkYou don't just "realize you can talk" though, deer would have to talk as much as other four-legged creaturesMaybe they have their own accent or something.That could work, or maybe some other language oddity that differenciates them from normal pony speechWhat could that oddity be?im thinking some kind of celtic accent maybeLike someone else said, he'd avoid using anything that's pony-specific. Why not have her see the pone running with the herd over a hill and out of sight? Or maybe just a glimpse of the pones leg, thus spurring the reaction we want.WAIT WAIT WAIT have we ever seen deer on screen in any episode and if so have they seemed a little...not able to talk?
I believe something nice about the story should that the deer pony doesn't knows how to talk, but she somehow understands what they say.
that will be pretty hard to write then though < The point is that it should be well-written.animation will be the key here
Possible library gag before fluttershy arrives?super important list, deer pone will eat it (maybe later during the song)
After the intro screen, Fluttershy is running back to town, looking for Twilight
She opens the door of the Golden Oak Library hitting it.
Fluttershy: Twilight! pant pant Whitetail Woods pant HELP!(swoons maybe) < Or something like that, change it. Whatever it is she's saying, she's freaked out and speaking too erraticaly for twilight to understand.[it seems like fluttershy is too freaked. she just saw a pony after all. im thinking she should originally find deer pone in some kind if danger]
Twilight: "Fluttershy, calm down! I can't understand what you're saying."
Fluttershy takes a deep breath and explains - actual wording still pending
Twilight: Oh my gosh, a real feral pony! I've been reading about them a lot lately. Like that case when they found a filly raised by wild boars near Baltimare? Did you know that boar language doesn't have past tense? I'm so excited to see a feral foal for myself… [Mengele expression] and perform some harmless tests on him!
twilight should be first responder to get in this joke from the 4chan thread:
>Fluttershy finds her right?
>She prolly assumes all ponies have wings like her
>Fluttershy comes with her friends
>deerpony to twilight: "why don't you have wings?"lel
>"sweet celestia she really doesn't know anything about ponies!"
this might be a terrible idea Nah, it could work, although she might also pick up on Twi's horn it was supposed to be a very subtle reference(dont hit me!) to the alicorn dramaOh, right. Well, my point still standssorry can you explain a lttle betterWell you said deerpone might see fluttershy and figure all pones have wings, right, and then she sees twi and goes 'why don't you have wings?'. But that damn horn would also be pretty hard to overlookyeah i guess youre right ill just leave this convo here and then the leaders can decide whether to delete it or not
Marko: Alright, I think the cold open should not feature the deer pony just yet, but instead go something like this:
>Fluttershy leading squirrels into forest
>Starts hearing strange noises, gets scared
>(Note that the squirrels don't get scared)
>Bushes start rattling
>FS ducks thinking a monster will come out
>Instead a bunch of deer start running past her
>She looks at them with a mixture of fear and wonder
>She tries to greet one of them
>The last one in line looks at her briefly before dashing off
>FS briefly wonders aloud what they're in such a hurry for
>Suddenly, giant monster roar
>The squirrels run off towards where FS had been leading them from
>Zoom in on Fluttershy's scared face as music swells
And then after the intro, have the deer filly come in and scare the monster off or something. Then go with whatever you're going for from there.
How's that?The colt deer scares off a monster?how about no monster? the colt just couldn't keep up their pace and is left behind, fluttershy discovers he's actually a pone >theme song
Framework:
1. The Script
1.1 A moral
1.2 An outline of the story
1.3 A first draft with everything that happens in each of the three acts (Done by Robo-Hobo)
1.4 Flesh it out, write the dialogue and decide whether we'll have a song in it or not
1.5 Revise, edit, repeat! Until two of these three agree it should move on: Director, co-director, head writer
2. Voice Acting
2.1 At this point we know which characters we need and can browse all those Youtube videos to find good VAs for each one.
2.2 After each VA agreed to work for the animation, let them record their lines, at this point we'd need some kind of director who'd guide them through it and makes sure they stay true to what the script asked for
(2.3) Record the song if needed. (This will need collaboration with step 5) Actually, this isn't done on MLP:FiM. Songs and score are separate entitites.
3. The Storyboard
3.1 Find drawfags and let them storyboard the script
3.2 They should keep in mind the time restrictions for each act
(3.3) A potential song needs more work than just simple pony action
4. The Animation
4.1 Try to find an animator (e.g. JanAnimations(JanAnimations is $100 per second. No)) and "hire" (whatever that means) him/her to animate, or maybe more animators than just one.
4.2 Let them animate and stay in contact with the director of the episode
(4.3) Pay special attention to the choreography of the song
5. Score
5.1 After the animation and voiceacting is set in stone, the episode goes to the guys creating the score
5.2 A director would need to make sure the music stays true to what happens on screen and what emotion needs to be conveyed
Timeframe of "Winter Wrap Up":
[01:05 - 065 seconds] 00:00-01:05 Opening scene
[00:35 - 035 seconds] 01:05-01:40 Theme song
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[05:10 - 310 seconds] 03:56-09:06 ACT 1
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[08:15 - 495 seconds] 12:02-20:19 ACT 2
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[06:17 - 382 seconds] 23:05-29:22 ACT 3
[00:27 - 027 seconds] 29:22-29:49 Credits
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Are we going with using it to show the deerpony around ponyville, each pony (except maybe AJ) singing about her part in town ?i think thats the ideaSeems good.Showing her Ponyville in a song is a great idea and feels very like the actual show.<Agreed
What should the song itself be about? Like, showing him that there is more to the world outside of the woods?
random ideas (not in order)
>twilight shows him a book at the library, he seems interested, twi is happy, he then proceeds to eat it
>rarity make clothes for him obviously. he finds them very uncomfortable (he eats them too?)
>pinkie throws a party, he eats too much candies (he never tasted them before), stomacache
>RD... shows him tricks? he could be impressed, until Rainbow Crashes into something
>not sure about AJ
>flu should be slightly protesting during all the song, trying to take the colt's parts
>cherilee at school trying to educate him?
>CMC, he seems happy to know them until they start screaming "CMC *something*" around him, he gets scared
I like that. It seems realistic and advances the plot. So what kind of style do you guys think best fits
Are they all travelling in a group, or does each of them show her around their own part of town separately? Separately, but quickly.

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"Subtlty is key."

Do or Deer: Screenplay
(Alternate name: "Truth or Deer")
Title subject to change, "Do or Deer" as a working title for now.

FAQ:

What's this all about?
We're making a show-accurate episode without any panda rings to show the fandom how it's done. There will be no IWTCIRD, no Milky, no Tracy, no shipping and no other hidden jokes "only someone browsing 4chan would get". We're staying true to the show.
The writing staff will probably even be credited as anonymous.

Original idea by Lauren Faust:

A cut episode involved Rainbow Dash and Applejack encountering a deer family  in Whitetail Wood, and a pony living among them. This pony would have  had branches tied to his head because he was abandoned as a filly and  raised by a deer. It is unknown whether the deer would have been  sentient or not. The conflict would have been between Dash (who would  have wanted to reveal the truth) and Applejack (who would have wanted to  leave well enough alone).

Will I get credited?
Unless you're a VA or animator and request to be credited, no. The written work that goes into this is all anonymous. "You know who you are. Congradulations"

Will you advertise this?
Not until we know for sure everything has been dealt with and we can give a deadline. Probably after animation is finished = a long time from today
 
What's the premise of the episode?
The ponies find a family of deer in Whitetail Woods and a pony with branches for antlers living among the deer.

Is the deer pony a mare or a colt?
Only male deers grow antlers, so it's a colt, a male.

How old is the deer pony?
He is around the age of the CMC, a little older; just about to hit puberty.

What's his name?
"Treebark". His adoptive deer father's name is Redwood and his deer mother's name is Mapleleaf.

When does this take place?
Between Season 1 and Season 2 (IE. no Twilicorn).


Estimated runtime: 22 minutes with credits. (Divided into opening and three arcs, like an actual episode, timeframe for an example episode: line 454)

Summary:
 * Fluttershy finds an earth pony living among deer in Whitetail Woods
 * Treebark, the deer pony, was orphaned and taken in by the deer, and thinks he is a deer
 * Fluttershy and the other mane 5 show Treebark around Ponyville
 * Some mane 6 start arguing about whether he should stay in Ponyville
 * He takes in both the good and the bad, but ultimately decides on remaining with his deer family.
 * "Home is where the heart is" moral.

This is just an outline, script will be made later.
 All lines are proposed ideas, not final.

Opening:
 * A shot of Whitetail woods, springtime/summertime
 * MLP: FiM logo appears, with "/mlp/ presents" in small letters above and "A full-length fan-episode" below.
 * Logo fades away and the title appears.
 * 
 * Shot pans/cuts to Fluttershy escorting some squirrels to their home
 * As the squirrels enter their treehole, Fluttershy is startled by a noise.
 * She nervously peeks her head into the next clearing to see what is there

Two possible openings:

 * There is a family (mother/father and son) of migrating deer, feeding on berries.
 * Initially she is in wonder, then she notices something.
 * She notices one of the the deer is actually an earth pony wearing sticks as antlers
 * It notices her too, and she quickly runs away startled.
 * Fluttershy runs to Twilight to tell her what she saw.
 * Fluttershy enters the library.
 * "Twilight! Twilight! There's a pony living out in the woods with some deer!"
 * Twilight turns away from her books, confused.
 * "Well I have read that deer migrate around these parts this time of year. Why would there be a pony living with them though?"
 * Fluttershy responds: "I don't know, I didn't know what to do so I just came here."
 * Twilight: "Well I'll round up the others and see if we can find them. If anything, this gives me a unique opportunity to study some deer. I've never met any before."

__OR__

 * In a bush in the clearning, what appears to be a young deer pops its head out.
 * Fluttershy, confused as to why there would be a deer this close to the edge of the forest (or something like that, she knows a lot about animals) assumes it is lost (she talks out loud about it) but as she approches it exists the bush and picks at some berries.
 * She realizes it is in fact a light brown colt, with mud on his coat and sticks for antlers.
 * Two possible suggestions: After eating the berries, it turns around and notices her too, and quickly runs back into the bush that it came from.  or he's actually spying at her, curious, then she sees him and he runs off?
 * Fluttershy runs to Twilight in her house to tell her what she saw.
 * Fluttershy enters the house, to find Twilight reading (ironically) a book about deer.
 * "Twilight! Twilight! There's a pony living out in the woods 
 * Twilight turns away from her books, confused.
 * "Well I have read that deer migrate around these parts this time of year. Why would there be a pony living with them though?"
 * Fluttershy responds: "I don't know, I didn't know what to do so I just came here."
 * Twilight:  "Well I'll round up the others and see if we can find them. If  anything, this gives me a unique opportunity to study some deer. I've  never met any before."

OR

 * Scene fades to Fluttershy leading the others into the woods.
 * Fluttershy: "It was just around here, I saw a young colt out in the woods with the deer"
 * Twilight: "Well if you're right, he might need our help."
 * Applejack: "I'll see what I can do to track them, but I don't have no practice followin' deer."

 * The group passes into the clearing where FS saw the deer
 * Fluttershy: "They were right here ..."
 * Applejack: "Well they must have moved. C'mon y'all, they must still be nearby."
 * Applejack says this line as she moves through the bushes, her head turned to the group.
 * Applejack bumps into a large stag.
 * Applejack is startled and retreats to the main clearing.
 * Twilight and Fluttershy, who are looking around unaware, notice Redwood entering the clearing.
 * Stag (Redwood): "What are you ponies doing snooping around out here?"
 * Twilight approaches: "Oh, my name is Twilight Sparkle and these are my friends. I'm sorry if we've disturbed you."
 * Stag (Redwood): "My name is Redwood. My family and I are only passing through. We try not to get involved with the affairs of pony kind."
 * Twilight, interrupting: "Ahh yes. Well we came here to talk about that. My friend Fluttershy ..." Shot of Fluttershy bashfully hunched over. "... here said there was a pony out here with you."
 * Redwood, looking surprised, then angry: "I think you should be on your ..."
 * Deer Pony (Treebark), interrupting, comes out of the bush: "Dad! There you ar ... oh" (he notices the ponies).
 * Mother deer enters as well: "Redwood, what's going on?"
 * Redwood, turning: "It's ok Mapleleaf, take Treebark back to the other clearing."
 * Mapleleaf starts to lead Treebark off
 * Treebark: "Wait mom! I recognize that one. We saw her earlier, remember?" He's pointing, the shot cuts to Fluttershy. "She's different like me dad! She brought friends too!"
 * Treebark is a young colt, older than grade school, but younger than the mane 6. He has no cutie mark, presumably because he thinks he is a deer.
 * At this point, the trio has grouped close to the deer family.
 * Redwood is noticably upset, Mapleleaf is concerned, and Treebark and the three are excited.



Everything below this line is for reference.                              Suggestions go there.

Timings:
1:05 - Opening scene (+0:35 for theme song)
5:10 - Act 1
8:15 - Act 2
6:17 - Act 3 (+0:27 for credits theme)
= 21:52



What is the moral of the episode? (A letter to Celestia would be a big plus)
 * Don't try to change someone's way of life without knowing his reasons to live that way 
 * Be careful before thinking that you know what's best for another pony better than the pony knows for herself.
 * Don't fix what isn't broken
                "Dear Princess Celestia,
                    Today I learned that although a pony may live differently than somepony else, that doesn't make them any less of a pony... or deer than anypony else. When discussing someone's future, you need to take that person's wishes into account, even if they don't want what you think is best for themselves. Also, something about what your'e born as not defining what you are. You can live your dreams and make it your destiny ect.


A:
Summarize  the story in THREE sentences: What is the premise, what kind of  conflict arises during the episode, how is it resolved?

B:
Write an outline of the intro and the three acts of the episode.

C:
Double check everything on consistency and alternative solutions/events.

GoogleDoc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SPFM-OFffCs09zeqExxDvM2EpIvzAJm05WVyedmL-1s/edit


OUTLINE:

FIRST MEETING WITH TREEBARK
>he's alone, scared of yellow timid (shocked to see how much similar they are, but that's hard to convey), runs away, she's worried, can't track him, goes back to seek help
>he's with the other deers, add some more cuz i don't really know what should happen next: 

Main focus has shifted from deer pony to the disagreements of the Mane 6.

Think Deerpony should stay in the forest:
AJ: for the family also applebloom says: remember with zecora?
Spike: like how Spike chose to stay with ponies, who were his parents throughout his life, the deer should choose to stay with the deer parents. Running joke about Spike being the voice of reason that no one listens to, throughout the episode.
(why is spike getting a role?)+1Because his situation is EXACTLY like Treebark's, so he's the only character that can relate to him. Not putting Spike in the episode would just be purposely ignoring him for no reason.

Pinkie: I really think she would compromise, everypony smiling
I think she should say something like where ever makes you smile or something
Oblivious that he's really [not?] a deer; fooled by branch antlers?
OVER A BARREL, we all have hooves at the end of each leg, cmon pinkie is much more than just smile smile smile

Think Deerpony should live in p'ville:
RD: thinks the best for him is civilization. Caring but Insensitive
Twilight?: "Statistics state that ponies do better in established civilizations." <- doesn't sound like twilight.
Rarity: "How could a pony possibly live with such... wild creatures?">implying applejack

Undecided: Fluttershy
Pinkie?

Deer:
Like gypsies? Wandering around like nomads without houses, laying in the sun, eating grass, living the 60s?
I imagine them as druids or wood elves.
Deer can speak, but only to other Deer due to being shy/skittish?
I think the deer only talk to family, those known to them.
deers don't speak much but are fully sentient. mysterious. 

Moral: when discussing someone's future, you need to take that person's wishes into account, even if they don't want what's best for themselves. 

Idea: I'm still firmly in the camp of Antlers thinking he's a deer, the deer playing along with him, and the big reveal upsetting him so much that he runs away.That could workPerhaps an encounter with Spike who can relate to him.

 Idea: Maybe we don't show the colt in this entire sequence, but keep him out of frame? We could cut to an opening theme at the part where Fluttershy sees -something-, which is not shown. After that would be the part where Fluttershy is shown telling the others
>Fluttershy goes into Whitetail Woods because of squirrels needing her help.
>Hears loud deer snort.
>Checks it out.
>Deer are semi-sapient, ponies and deer have a similar kind of relationship as humans and other great apes do.
>Fluttershy about to leave, apologising.
>Hears a voice telling her not to worry about it.
>Reveals a young colt with branches on his head.
>Fluttershy shocked into silence.
>Colt asks what's wrong, zooms in on colt triple zoom, scary chords
>theme tune here
>runs back to town
>gathers mane6 in library
>tells them
>they go into whitetail woods to search for filly why didn't she brought her herself? Shocked to the point that she ran off without thinking. Scared of alpha-male looking big deer who is defending deerpone?
 
>find him, along with deer
>they seem friendly
>they ask what he's doing there
"What do you mean? I'm a deer! I live here!"
>tension rises between rainbow dash/twilight sparkle, who insists she's a pony, and [insert pony, maybe Pinkie+?] who says she's whatever she wants to be.
>Rest of cast say she can make up her own mind, but she should see the pony world first.
>convince her to visit ponyville
>tells her of wonderous techonlolgies
>she agrees
 
End act one.
 
 
>enter ponyville
>everyone gives filly with branches on her head funny looks
>"RD, please come inside"
>RD keeps trying to convince her to take them off / "Accidentally" knocking them off her head  (We'd want to avoid making RD too much of a jerk, she could instead be  hovering over him and start trying to lift the horns off, but then  whistles innocently with her hooves behind her back when he notices her) This sounds alot better I too approve of this.Thirded+
>do tourist stuff, visit each pony's house/workplace (Which is where the song could happen)
 Yeah, i would like a song in here.Good idea, but what would it be about, who'd sing?
 mane6  sing it, all try to show how good civilized life is IMO like rarity put  on nice dresses which don't really fit her, PP party which is way too  loud for her etc.
 A  song that every part starts with the same thing, like "I would like to  show how we live Ponyville", or something like that, and every part of  the song is sung by a different pony from the Mane 6.
[AJ gives her all kinds of rich apple based foods her stomach cant handle she almost enjois it here, but they quickly take her to fluttershy][fluttershy  introduces her to friendly bear, shes scared as fuck][twilightgives her  a book, tries to eat it][RD lifts her and takes her flying, nearly  shits herself]It should  probably end right before AJ's part, considering that it's what's going  to be used in the next scene, and is the only part the deerpony kinda  enjoysyer probably right(This isn't all one person, I was just highlighting posts that aren't part of the act ~PA)
Instead of her stomach being unable to handle the foods, how about she's full of food in the next shot?
>she's not impressed
i'd like to make him nervous while indoors, but that might seem like a re-hash of chickenpone from Canterlot Games ep.(claustrophobia is common for outdoor critters, so might as well emphasize a freakout about the walls.)
>most at home on AJ's farm, helping plant crops (she's an earth pony)i don't think she has a clue at planting
>She and AJ do farmwork while rest discuss her in the barn.poor AJ, always in the background
>half say she should stay in forest, half say she's better of in p'ville.
Flttrshy: I'm thinking Twilight-Fluttershy-Pinkie Pie for forest, RD-Rarity for ponyville. What about Applejack?
>twilight unsure.
>AJ walks in, having left her outside planting
>AJ voices opinion
Not sure what yet, but I think I can see her siding with RD on this.rarity should definitely side with RD on this
>Discussion gets heated
>hear voice
>Colt is at the door.
"I-I think I want to go home now"
>ponies arguing for forcing him to stay look ashamed
>they agree to take her back to forest
>Need Pinkie/Rarity in here somewhere

Maybe we expand the "touring" part to Mane 6 trying hard to be his mentors I glossed over the tour because it'd be easy to fill out.
>Twilight sparkle tries to perform psychological tests on him, rorschach pictures and stuff>this
>Rarity tries to make a dreamy colt from him styling his mane. He ruins it back and returns the twigs.
>Pinkie Pie throws him a party (Well duh). He's like what. Initially interested but than something happens and then scared as fuck.
>RD is impressed by the tricks he has shown in the forest, want to learn it from him. He have no idea why he should perform something when there's no danger<ok but i don't like the last part. also she should "scare" him when she ask him to teach her (she's too pushy)
>pretty obvious, but he should bond with flutteshy more (she should give him a "chance", discord-style)
His personality seems to be chalking up to be similar to Fluttershy, so of course they would bond. Of course, Fluttershy tries to introduce her to her friendly bear, and he's learned that bears are bad, so it scared him and... you know the drill.This I can get behind
>

End act 2.

Act 3 *Ideas*

Rainbow Dash seems to be the focus of this episode, so the third act should focus around her and the colt.No. Just no. Rainbow Dash is NOT the focus of the episode
The following is my own idea
>Indeed, they find that the colt's 'tribe' is missing!
>Either the colt freaks out or Fluttershy freaks out, and the rest of the mane6 are worried either way. Whichever of those two didn't freak out will be calm and look around for tracks. I think the colt should be the one who can follows footprints, since it's about him needing his family.
Or perhaps, Rainbow Dash has a "What have I done?" moment, and the colt starts tracking. This leads Dash to have a sympathy moment






Lots of people dont like Timberwolves. Replace?i don't like the idea of an action scene, personally. believable characterization instead?
>consider new species,
>get drawfags to make us some species
>Pony-Golem? 
> (Discussion)What if there's no enemy? There needs to be some kind of conflict for deer pone to solve /What if some of the pone think that deer pone is weird for thinking she's a deer, so she feels harrassed?What if they're fillies? (Tiara and Spoon pone)/Liking the idea of deerpone being harrassed by DT and SS, makes sense/[im thinking mane6 take deerpone back into woods disheartened by progress and gets "chased" by something(who the fuck knows what) into a deep complex of caverns or a swamp or something and deer pone uses wilderness experience growing up with deer to get them out of it. they all accept her for who she is]/But if this is all in the forest, why would Ponyville/antagonists care? I'm saying we dont need an antagonist antagonists are hard to writeBut why would she become disheartened? going off premise that mane6 thinks deer pone needs to be reassimilated into ponyvilleAhhhh, okay. I get it.
We do not want to add another problem/conflict! BAD BAD BAD!
>A lack of villain will lead to a lack of conflict, atleast antagonist. Tiara and Spoon pones are antagonists? YepHow are Diamond Tiara/Silver Spoon going to fit in ? So far the deerpony's been with the Mane 6 the entire time, and in the end of the act above ↑, they just agreed to take her homeThey're going to tour deerpone, right? They can just be walking past and whispering bad things about her/her antlers. Also, look at note 51. This can be easily added there.That could work, but in that case, they would just be a contributing factor to her wanting to go home, and not the main reason, right ? Exactly. We can build up to her wanting to go home.real antagonist should be ponyville's closed mindset (again, remember zecora)I'm wondering if and how Zecora will fit into this?i think she should somehow, time is a big problem
>enter clearing where deer were
>they're nowhere to be found
>mane six befuddled while filly rushes around worried, examining clearing
>filly uses tracking skill to explain what happened with flashbacks, Aragorn stylethis
>ambushed by timberwolves
>filly follows tracks into forest
>mane 6 give chase
>find deer family surrounded by timberwolves
>twilight catches filly before she charges with magic
"It's too dangerous for you"
>mane 6 attract timberwolves attention
>they turn to face mane 6, but deer are still trapped
>fight scene
>each of mane 6 at some point hesitate, allowing a timberwolf to knock them out of action in various ways
>timberwolves turn back to deer
>all seems lost
>filly charges with the force of a thousand suns
>knocks timberwolves apart in one charge
>timberwolves half reform and limp off with tails between legs
>filly knocked out
>she comes to surrounded by ponies and deer
>has bits of timberwolf lodged in head where antlers would be (not sure if this is a good idea), might have to scrap it
>mane 6 surprised with ferocity of her onslaught
>decide the deer are her real family and she belongs there
>possibly get cutie mark for tracking?
>letter to princess; "It's not who you were born to, but who raised you that makes you who you are" or something

>Far too Deus Ex ending, 
>Agreed
Whole ending will probably be rewirtten, Timberwolves have to go. <agreed<Also agree<agree<agree<agree
the whole ending just seems too overused imo.
all fail to win vs the enemy and then 1 does it with courage, maybe it's just me, seems too happen too often
 it's not necessarily the wolves, just any antagonist in general. i think we had it too often on the show, like flutter vs the dragon or twi vs the hyrda etc.
That's why I left the conversation at the top, so we'd remember that ending is going to be rewritten. We should probably draft new ending soon
Maybe there could be more focus on the other deers dissapearing (for a reason other than timber wolves, not sure yet), and the deerpony having to use the tracking skills she's learnt whilst living with the deer, and gets her cutie mark when finding them ? (then letter, etc)[if we make deer pone a young mare instead of a filly, she can already have her cutie mark(deer spots) to show how being a deer is really what shes good at the mane 6 should have realized this all along. Also this will make her look more like a deer Isn't that a bit of a stretch for a cutie mark?not necessarily, being a deer is what shes goos at Deer spots as a Cutie Mark isn't the best idea.Why not?how about a cutie mark in shape of deer hoof?That sounds good

end act 3 God speed you g



Original idea by Lauren:

A cut episode involved Rainbow Dash and Applejack encountering a deer family  in Whitetail Wood, and a pony living among them. This pony would have  had branches tied to his head because he was abandoned as a filly and  raised by a deer. It is unknown whether the deer would have been  sentient or not. The conflict would have been between Dash (who would  have wanted to reveal the truth) and Applejack (who would have wanted to  leave well enough alone).



SCRIPT:TO BE REVISED IF NOT DELETED
Fluttershy appears in the middle of the Whitetail Woods, walking with a group of squirrels. Squirrrels are chattering, worried.
 Fluttershy: "Oh, don't worry, little squirrels. You'll be back with your parents soon"
 
 Fluttershy hears a loud snort and quietly yells, scaring off the squirrels. Fluttershy fearing wildlife noises?Startled, maybe
 Fluttershy: "What was that?!"
 Theres a silence and again the snort is heard.
 Fluttershy, shaken, hides in a nearby bush and peeks out to see a young colt with branches behind his ears standing in front of the deer, eating with them or some shit.  Show Fluttershy's shocked face, then intro plays.colt alone and lost in the forest? they might not realize his story at first Again, nothing shocking in a filly communicating with animals. Fluttershy does this herself all the time. Maybe she hears the filly calling the deer Mom and dad or something. Deers don't talk. Or do they? The family shouldn't talk, but i don't know, that's what Lauren's idea was. Maybe they communicate with snorts? Yeah, something like that. They should know to say "Yes" and "No" by moving their heads. Maybe intimidating alpha male snort was what scared fluttershy in the first place? Yup.
deers should talk. how else will deerpony know how to talk?yeah this guy has a point. Deerpony doesn't knows how to talk. She does if I had my way Maybe deer pone realizes she can talk after hearing other pones talk? Actually, changed my mind, deerpone ought to talkYou don't just "realize you can talk" though, deer would have to talk as much as other four-legged creaturesMaybe they have their own accent or something.That could work, or maybe some other language oddity that differenciates them from normal pony speechWhat could that oddity be?im thinking some kind of celtic accent maybeLike someone else said, he'd avoid using anything that's pony-specific.  Why not have her see the pone running with the herd over a hill and out  of sight? Or maybe just a glimpse of the pones leg, thus spurring the  reaction we want.WAIT WAIT WAIT have we ever seen deer on screen in any episode and if so have they seemed a little...not able to talk?

I  believe something nice about the story should that the deer pony  doesn't knows how to talk, but she somehow understands what they say.
that will be pretty hard to write then though < The point is that it should be well-written.animation will be the key here
Possible library gag before fluttershy arrives?super important list, deer pone will eat it (maybe later during the song)

 After the intro screen, Fluttershy is running back to town, looking for Twilight
 She opens the door of the Golden Oak Library hitting it.
 Fluttershy: Twilight! pant pant Whitetail Woods pant HELP!(swoons maybe) < Or something like that, change it. Whatever it is she's saying, she's freaked out and speaking too erraticaly for twilight to understand.[it seems like fluttershy is too freaked. she just saw a pony after all. im thinking she should originally find deer pone in some kind if danger]
 Twilight: "Fluttershy, calm down!  I can't understand what you're saying."
 Fluttershy takes a deep breath and explains - actual wording still pending
 Twilight: Oh my gosh, a real feral pony! I've been reading about them a lot lately. Like that case when they found a filly raised by wild boars near Baltimare? Did you know that boar language doesn't have past tense? I'm so excited to see a feral foal for myself… [Mengele expression] and perform some harmless tests on him!

 twilight should be first responder to get in this joke from the 4chan thread:
 
 >Fluttershy finds her right?
>She prolly assumes all ponies have wings like her
>Fluttershy comes with her friends
>deerpony to twilight: "why don't you have wings?"lel
>"sweet celestia she really doesn't know anything about ponies!"
this might be a terrible idea Nah, it could work, although she might also pick up on Twi's horn it was supposed to be a very subtle reference(dont hit me!) to the alicorn dramaOh, right. Well, my point still standssorry can you explain a lttle betterWell you said deerpone might see fluttershy and figure all pones have wings, right, and then she sees twi and goes 'why don't you have wings?'. But that damn horn would also be pretty hard to overlookyeah i guess youre right ill just leave this convo here and then the leaders can decide whether to delete it or not
 
Marko: Alright,  I think the cold open should not feature the deer pony just yet, but instead go something like this:
>Fluttershy leading squirrels into forest
>Starts hearing strange noises, gets scared
>(Note that the squirrels don't get scared)
>Bushes start rattling
>FS ducks thinking a monster will come out
>Instead a bunch of deer start running past her
>She looks at them with a mixture of fear and wonder
>She tries to greet one of them
>The last one in line looks at her briefly before dashing off
>FS briefly wonders aloud what they're in such a hurry for
>Suddenly, giant monster roar
>The squirrels run off towards where FS had been leading them from
>Zoom in on Fluttershy's scared face as music swells

And then after the intro, have the deer filly come in and scare the monster off or something. Then go with whatever you're going for from there.

How's that?The colt deer scares off a monster?how about no monster? the colt just couldn't keep up their pace and is left behind, fluttershy discovers he's actually a pone >theme song
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akes her flying, nearly shits herself]It should probably end right before AJ's part, considering that it's what's going to be used in the next scene, and is the only part the deerpony kinda enjoysyer probably rightsong should end with all ponyville singing or something - gonna need lots of voices
>she's not impressed
i'd like to make her nervous while indoors, but that might seem like a re-hash of chickenpone from Canterlot Games ep.(clausterphobia is common for outdoor critters, so might as well emphasize a freakout about the walls.)
>most at home on AJ's farm, helping plant crops (she's an earth pony)i don't think she has a clue at planting
>She and AJ do farmwork while rest discuss her in the barn.poor AJ, always in the background
>half say she should stay in forest, half say she's better of in p'ville.
>twilight unsure.
>AJ walks in, having left her outside planting
>AJ voices opinion
Not sure what yet, but I think I can see her siding with RD on this.rarity should definitely side with RD on this
>Discussion gets heated
>hear voice
>filly is at the doorisn't he a colt again?
"I-I think I want to go home now"
>ponies arguing for forcing her to stay look ashamed
>they agree to take her back to forest
>Need Pinkie/Rarity in here somewhere

Maybe we expand the "touring" part to Mane 6 trying hard to be her mentors I glossed over the tour because it'd be easy to fill out.
>Twilight sparkle tries to perform psychological tests on him, rorschach pictures and stuff>this
>Rarity tries to make a dreamy colt from him styling his mane. He ruins it back and returns the twigs.
>Pinkie Pie throws him a party (Well duh). He's like what. Initially interested but than something happens and then scared as fuck.
>RD is impressed by the tricks he has shown in the forest, want to learn it from him. He have no idea why he should perform something when there's no danger<ok but i don't like the last part. also she should "scare" him when she ask him to teach her (she's too pushy)
>pretty obvious, but he should bond with flutteshy more (she should give him a "chance", discord-style)
>

End act 2.

Lots of people dont like Timberwolves. Replace?i don't like the idea of an action scene, personally. believable characterization instead?
>consider new species,
>get drawfags to make us some species
>Pony-Golem? http://th01.deatviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/005/e/f/pegasus_pony_golem_by_blazingamer-d5qhnnz.png
> What if there's no enemy? There needs to be some kind of conflict for deer pone to solve What if some of the pone think that deer pone is weird for thinking she's a deer, so she feels harrassed.What if they're fillies. (Tiara and Spoon pone)Liking the idea of deerpone being harrassed by DT and SS, makes sense[im thinking mane6 take deerpone back into woods disheartened by progress and gets "chased" by something(who the fuck knows what) into a deep complex of caverns or a swamp or something and deer pone uses wilderness experience growing up with deer to get them out of it. they all except her for who she is]But if this is all in the forest, why would Ponyville/antagonists care?im saying we dont need an antagonist antagonists are hard to writeBut why would she become disheartened? going off premise that mane6 thinks deer pone needs to be reassimilated into ponyvilleAhhhh, okay. I get it.
>A lack of villain will lead to a lack of conflict, atleast antagonist. Tiara and Spoon pones are antagonists? YepHow are Diamond Tiara/Silver Spoon going to fit in ? So far the deerpony's been with the Mane 6 the entire time, and in the end of the act above ↑, they just agreed to take her homeThey're going to tour deerpone, right? They can just be walking past and whispering bad things about her/her antlers. Also, look at note 51. This can be easily added there.That could work, but in that case, they would just be a contributing factor to her wanting to go home, and not the main reason, right ? Exactly. We can build up to her wanting to go home.real antagonist should be ponyville's closed mindset (again, remember zecora)I'm wondering if and how Zecora will fit into this?i think she should somehow, time is a big problem
>enter clearing where deer were
>they're nowhere to be found
>mane six befuddled while filly rushes around worried, examining clearing
>filly uses tracking skill to explain what happened with flashbacks, Aragorn stylethis
>ambushed by timberwolves
>filly follows tracks into forest
>mane 6 give chase
>find deer family surrounded by timberwolves
>twilight catches filly before she charges with magic
"It's too dangerous for you"
>mane 6 attract timberwolves attention
>they turn to face mane 6, but deer are still trapped
>fight scene
>each of mane 6 at some point hesitate, allowing a timberwolf to knock them out of action in various ways
>timberwolves turn back to deer
>all seems lost
>filly charges with the force of a thousand suns
>knocks timberwolves apart in one charge
>timberwolves half reform and limp off with tails between legs
>filly knocked out
>she comes to surrounded by ponies and deer
>has bits of timberwolf lodged in head where antlers would be (not sure if this is a good idea), might have to scrap it
>mane 6 surprised with ferocity of her onslaught
>decide the deer are her real family and she belongs there
>possibly get cutie mark for tracking?
>letter to princess; "It's not who you were born to, but who raised you that makes you who you are" or something

>Far too Deus Ex ending, 
>Agreed
Whole ending will probably be rewirtten, Timberwolves have to go. <agreed<Also agree<agree<agree
the whole ending just seems too overused imo.
all fail to win vs the enemy and then 1 does it with courage, maybe it's just me, seems too happen too often
 it's not necessarily the wolves, just any antagonist in general. i think we had it too often on the show, like flutter vs the dragon or twi vs the hyrda etc.
That's why I left the conversation at the top, so we'd remember that ending is going to be rewritten. We should probably draft new ending soon
Maybe there could be more focus on the other deers dissapearing (for a reason other than timber wolves, not sure yet), and the deerpony having to use the tracking skills she's learnt whilst living with the deer, and gets her cutie mark when finding them ? (then letter, etc)[if we make deer pone a young mare instead of a filly, she can already have her cutie mark(deer spots) to show how being a deer is really what shes good at the mane 6 should have realized this all along. Also this will make her look more like a deer Isn't that a bit of a stretch for a cutie mark?not necessarily, being a deer is what shes goos at Deer spots as a Cutie Mark isn't the best idea.Why not?how about a cutie mark in shape of deer hoof?That sounds good

end act 3 God speed you g



Original idea by Lauren:

A cut episode involved Rainbow Dash and Applejack encountering a deer family  in Whitetail Wood, and a pony living among them. This pony would have  had branches tied to his head because he was abandoned as a filly and  raised by a deer. It is unknown whether the deer would have been  sentient or not. The conflict would have been between Dash (who would  have wanted to reveal the truth) and Applejack (who would have wanted to  leave well enough alone).



SCRIPT:
Fluttershy appears in the middle of the Whitetail Woods, walking with a group of squirrels. Squirrrels are chattering, worried.
 Fluttershy: "Oh, don't worry, little squirrels. You'll be back with your parents soon"
 
 Fluttershy hears a loud snort and quietly yells, scaring off the squirrels. Fluttershy fearing wildlife noises?Startled, maybe
 Fluttershy: "What was that?!"
 Theres a silence and again the snort is heard.
 Fluttershy, shaken, hides in a nearby bush and peeks out to see a young colt with branches behind his ears standing in front of the deer, eating with them or some shit.  Show Fluttershy's shocked face, then intro plays.colt alone and lost in the forest? they might not realize his story at first Again, nothing shocking in a filly communicating with animals. Fluttershy does this herself all the time. Maybe she hears the filly calling the deer Mom and dad or something. Deers don't talk. Or do they? The family shouldn't talk, but i don't know, that's what Lauren's idea was. Maybe they communicate with snorts? Yeah, something like that. They should know to say "Yes" and "No" by moving their heads. Maybe intimidating alpha male snort was what scared fluttershy in the first place? Yup.
deers should talk. how else will deerpony know how to talk?yeah this guy has a point. Deerpony doesn't knows how to talk. She does if I had my way Maybe deer pone realizes she can talk after hearing other pones talk? Actually, changed my mind, deerpone ought to talkYou don't just "realize you can talk" though, deer would have to talk as much as other four-legged creaturesMaybe they have their own accent or something.That could work, or maybe some other language oddity that differenciates them from normal pony speechWhat could that oddity be?im thinking some kind of celtic accent maybeLike someone else said, he'd avoid using anything that's pony-specific.  Why not have her see the pone running with the herd over a hill and out  of sight? Or maybe just a glimpse of the pones leg, thus spurring the  reaction we want.WAIT WAIT WAIT have we ever seen deer on screen in any episode and if so have they seemed a little...not able to talk?

I  believe something nice about the story should that the deer pony  doesn't knows how to talk, but she somehow understands what they say.
that will be pretty hard to write then though < The point is that it should be well-written.animation will be the key here
Possible library gag before fluttershy arrives?super important list, deer pone will eat it (maybe later during the song)

 After the intro screen, Fluttershy is running back to town, looking for Twilight
 She opens the door of the Golden Oak Library hitting it.
 Fluttershy: Twilight! pant pant Whitetail Woods pant HELP!(swoons maybe) < Or something like that, change it. Whatever it is she's saying, she's freaked out and speaking too erraticaly for twilight to understand.[it seems like fluttershy is too freaked. she just saw a pony after all. im thinking she should originally find deer pone in some kind if danger]
 Twilight: "Fluttershy, calm down!  I can't understand what you're saying."
 Fluttershy takes a deep breath and explains - actual wording still pending
 Twilight: Oh my gosh, a real feral pony! I've been reading about them a lot lately. Like that case when they found a filly raised by wild boars near Baltimare? Did you know that boar language doesn't have past tense? I'm so excited to see a feral foal for myself… [Mengele expression] and perform some harmless tests on him!

 twilight should be first responder to get in this joke from the 4chan thread:
 
 >Fluttershy finds her right?
>She prolly assumes all ponies have wings like her
>Fluttershy comes with her friends
>deerpony to twilight: "why don't you have wings?"lel
>"sweet celestia she really doesn't know anything about ponies!"
this might be a terrible idea Nah, it could work, although she might also pick up on Twi's horn it was supposed to be a very subtle reference(dont hit me!) to the alicorn dramaOh, right. Well, my point still standssorry can you explain a lttle betterWell you said deerpone might see fluttershy and figure all pones have wings, right, and then she sees twi and goes 'why don't you have wings?'. But that damn horn would also be pretty hard to overlookyeah i guess youre right ill just leave this convo here and then the leaders can decide whether to delete it or not
 
Marko: Alright,  I think the cold open should not feature the deer pony just yet, but instead go something like this:
>Fluttershy leading squirrels into forest
>Starts hearing strange noises, gets scared
>(Note that the squirrels don't get scared)
>Bushes start rattling
>FS ducks thinking a monster will come out
>Instead a bunch of deer start running past her
>She looks at them with a mixture of fear and wonder
>She tries to greet one of them
>The last one in line looks at her briefly before dashing off
>FS briefly wonders aloud what they're in such a hurry for 
>Suddenly, giant monster roar
>The squirrels run off towards where FS had been leading them from
>Zoom in on Fluttershy's scared face as music swells

And then after the intro, have the deer filly come in and scare the monster off or something. Then go with whatever you're going for from there.

How's that?The colt deer scares off a monster?how about no monster? the colt just couldn't keep up their pace and is left behind, fluttershy discovers he's actually a pone >theme song




Framework:

1. The Script
1.1 A moral
1.2 An outline of the story
1.3 A first draft with everything that happens in each of the three acts (Done by Robo-Hobo)
1.4 Flesh it out, write the dialogue and decide whether we'll have a song in it or not
1.5 Revise, edit, repeat! Until two of these three agree it should move on: Director, co-director, head writer

2. Voice Acting
2.1 At this point we know which characters we need and can browse all those Youtube videos to find good VAs for each one.
2.2  After each VA agreed to work for the animation, let them record their  lines, at this point we'd need some kind of director who'd guide them  through it and makes sure they stay true to what the script asked for
(2.3) Record the song if needed. (This will need collaboration with step 5) Actually, this isn't done on MLP:FiM. Songs and score are separate entitites.

3. The Storyboard
3.1 Find drawfags and let them storyboard the script
3.2 They should keep in mind the time restrictions for each act
(3.3) A potential song needs more work than just simple pony action

4. The Animation
4.1  Try to find an animator (e.g. JanAnimations(JanAnimations is $100 per second. No)) and "hire" (whatever that  means) him/her to animate, or maybe more animators than just one.
4.2 Let them animate and stay in contact with the director of the episode
(4.3) Pay special attention to the choreography of the song

5. Score
5.1 After the animation and voiceacting is set in stone, the episode goes to the guys creating the score
5.2 A director would need to make sure the music stays true to what happens on screen and what emotion needs to be conveyed


Timeframe of "Winter Wrap Up":

[01:05 - 065 seconds] 00:00-01:05 Opening scene
[00:35 - 035 seconds] 01:05-01:40 Theme song
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[05:10 - 310 seconds] 03:56-09:06 ACT 1
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[08:15 - 495 seconds] 12:02-20:19 ACT 2
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[06:17 - 382 seconds] 23:05-29:22 ACT 3
[00:27 - 027 seconds] 29:22-29:49 Credits

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Are we going with using it to show the deerpony around ponyville, each pony (except maybe AJ) singing about her part in town ?i think thats the ideaSeems good.Showing her Ponyville in a song is a great idea and feels very like the actual show.<Agreed
What should the song itself be about? Like, showing him that there is more to the world outside of the woods?
random ideas (not in order)
>twilight shows him a book at the library, he seems interested, twi is happy, he then proceeds to eat it
>rarity make clothes for him obviously. he finds them very uncomfortable (he eats them too?)
>pinkie throws a party, he eats too much candies (he never tasted them before), stomacache
>RD... shows him tricks? he could be impressed, until Rainbow Crashes into something
>not sure about AJ
>flu should be slightly protesting during all the song, trying to take the colt's parts
>cherilee at school trying to educate him?
>CMC, he seems happy to know them until they start screaming "CMC *something*" around him, he gets scared

I like that.  It seems realistic and advances the plot.  So what kind of style do you guys think best fits

Are they all travelling in a group, or does each of them show her around their own part of town separately? Separately, but quickly.

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