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  6. Subject: Collaboration for Upcoming Convention Season
  7. From: Abel Sider <[email protected]>
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  14. Dear One and Eight,
  15.  
  16. Hi, it's AC. You may remember me during that convention that exploded into
  17. tiny little pieces and we all somehow managed to do something with it. I
  18. was glad we were all able to work together during the crisis and overall
  19. things seem to turned out better.
  20.  
  21. I'm writing today in regarded to the upcoming convention season. EFN has
  22. arranged MC rights similar to last year for all the major conventions. I
  23. would be interested to find out if there was a way myself and/or my co-host
  24. Chef Sandy would be able to be part of the MC team for these events. In the
  25. past we've approached conventions and were told that your team has managed
  26. most if not all programming operations when it comes to these conventions.
  27.  
  28. We have a proven track record to stand by - 100 episodes, 800 reviews on
  29. iTunes, constant rating in toe top 20 of TV and Movie audio podcasts on
  30. iTunes. I know we can put on a professional and entertaining panels and
  31. what better way of showing that there is still cooperation between EFN and
  32. other groups then working together during the upcoming season. Conversely,
  33. a lot of our attendance is dependent on how much access we can get. We go
  34. to be entertainers and anchors. if we can't do this is ultimately a waste
  35. of time.
  36.  
  37. I hope we can at least chat either via email or Skype about this. I had
  38. reached out to Final after the events of Unicon and he never replied. I'm
  39. not sure if this was business or him still holding a possibly rightful
  40. grudge. I'm in this to make friends and work together. I'd far rather help
  41. your team with programming and help provide another face for your streams.
  42.  
  43. Sincerely,
  44. Apple Cider
  45. Bronyville Podcast
  46.  
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  84. Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:10:07 -0500
  85. From: Mike Bernstein <[email protected]>
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  88. To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
  89.  [email protected], Erin Lukens <[email protected]>
  90. Subject: Re: Fwd: Collaboration for Upcoming Convention Season
  91. References: <[email protected]>
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  96.  
  97. Cider, you must have known I'd see this, but anyway,--
  98.  
  99. Let me be brief: I don't hold grudges. In the chaos that ensued after
  100. LPU I received a flood of messages (most positive, thankfully) but a lot
  101. of them fell through the cracks.  I've gone through my email logs and
  102. didn't find anything from you from then, so if you contacted me it must
  103. have been through another means that I missed.
  104.  
  105. EFN is the official streaming/moderating group for these events for a
  106. reason. We work very, very hard to produce the best content and I spend
  107. endless evenings in calls, writing emails, and texting to make sure what
  108. we offer is as beneficial to the events as it is to my group.
  109.  
  110. I'm not categorically against you guys doing hosting for some panels,
  111. etc, but truth be told you reap what you sow. Your viewership is
  112. respectable, and I have no doubt you care about your show, but that's
  113. all besides the point here. In the past, on multiple occasions,
  114. Bronyville has lashed out at myself and EFN in front of and behind the
  115. scenes.
  116.  
  117. So at a base level, tell me, if we go out of our way for you, how would
  118. you go out of your way for us?
  119.  
  120. If you have any suggestions, etc, please send them to me. It's
  121. categorically unprofessional to try and go around me to EightTrack,
  122. OneTrick, or my staff, and besides, we mostly make decisions together
  123. anyway. One of the least-noticed strengths of EFN is how much we work
  124. together behind the scenes. I don't do anything by myself, it takes all
  125. of us.
  126.  
  127. -FD
  128.  
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  137. Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:41:40 -0700
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  140. Subject: Re: Fwd: Collaboration for Upcoming Convention Season
  141. From: Abel Sider <[email protected]>
  142. To: Mike Bernstein <[email protected]>
  143. Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Erin Lukens <[email protected]>
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  148.  
  149. Final and Staff,
  150.  
  151. It's not unprofessional. I know I have a better working relationship with
  152. Eight Track, One Trick, Dusty, and etc. I'm fully aware the email would
  153. have gotten back to you. I was simply initiating contact to those who
  154. seemed interested in listening and working together. And I've not ever
  155. lashed out at EFN as a whole. Mostly I've lashed out against your actions
  156. which I find unprofessional and made you out to be kind of a jerk. I have a
  157. great time with every single member of EFN sans one. I never sent any
  158. message to you through email. It was a few messages through Skype. I'll
  159. provide one below for your benefit,
  160.  
  161. Friday, March 8th
  162. "Hey FD, not sure if you've heard any rumblings about our last show. But
  163. we buried all hatchets. There's far, far more that could be done trying to
  164. work together then getting mired is pettiness. And for that I apologized."
  165.  
  166. As for what we both get out of this - we get the ability to perform and
  167. interview at conventions. You get our fanbase engaged on your network and
  168. it's a sign of good faith that we can work together. I mean, we did work
  169. together at Unicon with no issues once things went south. In the end we're
  170. both passionate about putting on a good show.
  171.  
  172. It is your network and you decide who and what is on it. All we're asking
  173. for is to work together at conventions in some minimal capacity since EFN
  174. locks up the panels and only EFN staff can do much on stage during cons. As
  175. I believe we said before - it makes no sense to even attend conventions if
  176. we're designated to just sit around in some room begging for some presence
  177. when everything has been locked up.
  178.  
  179. If you want to approach this like adults who can come to terms and work
  180. together then I'm open to listen. If you want to continue this personal
  181. spat and just let this all disintegrate into what it was before then so be
  182. it. I did my part, I've apologized, I've tried to play nice - I really
  183. don't have any clue what else I could do beyond giving you an actual olive
  184. branch.
  185.  
  186. I'd like to talk to your team as a whole about this. You make decisions as
  187. a team yet it always seems you're the one talking to me. I'd love to come
  188. up with ideas and suggestions but I feel it's lost breath until we can
  189. agree to actually give this a shot.
  190.  
  191. AC
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  204. Subject: Re: Fwd: Collaboration for Upcoming Convention Season
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  212.  
  213. Checking back in. I haven't heard anything.
  214. AC
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  268.  
  269. At this stage I don't see that there's anything to discuss. I've made my
  270. position clear; if you want our help, tell us how you'd help us in
  271. return. You didn't do so, so I'm not interested in further discussion.
  272.  
  273. -FD
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