for flur <3

<Robo-Hobo> comes*

<wreckingfist> The moment where RD says the line that upsets Spike

<Robo-Hobo> ok

<wreckingfist> Until then, the scenario essentially was just Spike and TB bonding, then TB meeting AJ, learning about ponies, then meeting up with his family and the other pones

<wreckingfist> RD discovers TB, puts two and two together, and then conflict begins.

<wreckingfist> So until that point, Spike has screentime, but it isn't obviously a spike episode

<wreckingfist> It might not show him all the time, but it would still be classified as one, even though RD would also learn a lesson here herself.

<Robo-Hobo> I think the issue lies here. I don't think this should be a spike episode.

<wreckingfist> So you don't want spike to learn anything?

<Robo-Hobo> He should feature heavily, as a sympathetic character to treebark, but he's not got a huge amount to learn from this situation, imo.

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<wreckingfist> He actually does

<wreckingfist> Also noooo Flur

<Robo-Hobo> He's more experienced in living with those that are not of his kind than TB is, in my mind.

<wreckingfist> Spike is, as said, insecure as fuck. He lives in female dominated society, is essentially a handmaiden, and when he actually tried to learn about his people, all he saw were dicks that he had to fake being tough with to be cool, so ponies were essentially the only option for him.

<wreckingfist> Not true, both have the exact same situation

<wreckingfist> They were born and raised into it

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<Alquire> And you think that talking with a dragon makes Treebark know better about ponies?

<wreckingfist> No, it helps him know better about fitting in.

<Alquire> Has he even met ponies before he talks to spike?

<wreckingfist> Spike is the first person he talks to before AJ comes around, yep.

<Alquire> So, Treebark is all gullible with somebody who knows a shit about?

<wreckingfist> Never said he was gullible

<wreckingfist> Why on earth would he be?

<Alquire> Does Spike tells him he's a pony?

<Robo-Hobo> But spike has known exactly what he is, and how he's different, for his entire life. TB has felt different, but because he sees himself as a strange deer. When he finds out that maybe he's not that abnormal he's looking forward to the possibility of finding a place he might fit into perfectly.

<wreckingfist> Spike calls him one at first, but TB's retort about who he 'really is' helps Spike understand the situation.

<Robo-Hobo> Went on a bi of a tangen there.

<Robo-Hobo> tangent*

<Robo-Hobo> bit*

<Robo-Hobo> fuck

<wreckingfist> Robo-Hobo: So you imply that he wants to leave his family.

<Robo-Hobo> He at least is enthusiastic to go and check out this place.

<Alquire> Again, why Spike, a baby dragon, should make doubt things to treebark?