logs of class energetic body part 2

21:06   Forge   Welcome to Energy Body Part 2, Hosted by Forge and Eniri, this class will cover proper maintenance of the energetic system, and how to fix any problems encountered. Feel free to stop me at any time for questions, Eniri and I will be glad to answer them.

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21:07   Forge   We will focus on the implementation of the material we covered in the previous class.

21:07   ChaosNewt       What if my energy body is reality and my seven "chakras" are primal forces of existence.

21:08   limepi  I wasn't here for the previous class, will that present a problem?

21:08   ChaosNewt       It's probably the same deal just want to be sure.

21:08   Forge   As a quick followup, our previous class covered the basic structure of the energetic system and its components, and this class will cover how to use the energetic system to move energy, and how to use the knowledge of the energetic system to fix issues.

21:08   lutasi  then good job on attaining godhead chaos :P

21:08   Eniri   limepi, how familiar are you with the energetic body?

21:08   Forge   yes, good job on attaining godhead

21:08   Eniri   you just need a very basic awareness for what we're going to work on today

21:09   limepi  uh, I'm familiar with the chakra system and such

21:09   Forge   as an expanded followup, last class was an overview on the 7 chakras and the meridians

21:09   lutasi  and pay a friken tention because literally nobody seems to ever talk about this shit

21:09   Forge   The first thing we will start with is Meditation, which is a key component to learning to feel energy. ( thought-primerView next to chat ) is a good guide on meditation, while ( visualization-primerView next to chat ) will be good for learning visualization, both are key tools in psionics.

21:09   limepi  weirdly enough I was at a bookstore today and saw an illustrated guide to the subtle body

21:10   Forge   For this application, this meditation will focus on pulling energy from the 7 main chakras. While in your meditative state, focus on the chakras and feel them on your body, which for some feels like weights or a “tingling” sensation, and will a small amount of energy to move to a designated location in your body. For this exercise,

21:10   Forge    I find it easiest just to move the energy into one of the shoulders and hold it there.

21:10   Forge   With this complete, move the small amount of energy around your body, notice where some places it moves more easily and quickly than others, which are typically the meridian lines. When moving the energy you might also notice it grow in size over some locations, these are where the minor chakras are on the body.

21:10   Forge   after everyone is caught up with the wall of text, we will do a bit of practice

21:11   amygdala        Mr. Gorbachev...

21:12   dimitrianon     gah I gtg, I'll catch up on the log afterwards

21:12   Forge   amygdala?

21:12   limepi  it's better to have a wall of text than a letter at a time

21:12   limepi  tear down this wall

21:12   limepi  pfft sheesh

21:12   Pentacle        was the previous lesson saved by any chance?

21:13   amygdala        Famous quote: "Mr. Gobachev, tear down this wall." -Reagan at the Brandenburg Gate.

21:13   Forge   yeah i got the joke about 10 seconds too late...

21:13   Eniri   I liked it

21:14   Forge   introduction-energetic-body-class-i-log-postedView next to chat

21:14   Forge   last log is posted there

21:14   Pentacle        thank you very much, I'll try to follow this lesson as much as i can

21:15   Forge   http://pastebin.com/4Cwn0rQU

21:15   ChaosNewt       I'm gonna do ^ but without the try.

21:15   Forge   that is a rough article version of the last class

21:15   Forge   is everyone done reading up?

21:15   amygdala        I am.

21:15   Zephyr_Cloudrunner      I am

21:15   ChaosNewt       I don't see why anyone wouldn't.

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21:15   amygdala        So, you want us to detect and trace our own meridians?

21:15   LightSearch     yup

21:16   ChaosNewt       What are they doing, switching tabs and getting distracted?

21:16           ChaosNewt snickers

21:16   Pentacle        ok

21:16   Forge   amygdala, detect and trace the meridians, chakras, and notice how flow patterns change in one direction against another, and where energy picks up more than others

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21:17   amygdala        Please continue.

21:17   Forge   for example, following the core up the spine and down the arms picks up more energy than going over the chest to the arm

21:17   Forge   the energy also moves much faster

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21:18   Forge   but moving the energy over the chest also lets the chest saturate with energy, where it stores well

21:18   limepi  yeah I think the energy moves into my left arm faster because of the proximity to the heart chakra

21:18   Forge   in contrast, energy stores poorly in the back

21:18   ChaosNewt       I have a problem.

21:18   ChaosNewt       I can't feel the normal barriers I have set up to interfere with my sensing.

21:18   Forge   and another example being for the majority of people, energy intake is faster through the left side of the body, and energy output is faster through the right

21:19   limepi  is that the LHP vs RHP

21:19   ChaosNewt       I think the setting is making it hard to bother with my own bullshit.

21:19   Forge   limepi, not entirely

21:19   Forge   im a lefty and i have better flow out my right and in my arm

21:19   Forge   left* not arm

21:20   limepi  I was half-kidding

21:20   Forge   some people have better input in both legs and output in both arms

21:21   Zephyr_Cloudrunner      Forge, why is that polar energy flow common?

21:21   Zephyr_Cloudrunner      in left, out right?

21:21   Forge   any sort of circular energy flow is common as it allows for the energetic body to naturally move energy in and out of the system without conflict

21:22   Zephyr_Cloudrunner      makes sense

21:22   Forge   if its trying to pull in from all directions and push out from all directions, it will just cause stagnation

21:22   Zephyr_Cloudrunner      but why is it more common the be in left and out right?

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21:22   limepi  iirc the taoists say that it's a product of how a fetus is formed

21:22   Forge   Zephyr_Cloudrunner to be honest im not sure, that is just something i have observed

21:22   limepi  mantak chia/michael winn

21:23   ChaosNewt       It's the Coriolis effect, only astral.

21:23   Forge   has everyone tried to move energy about and learn more about their energetic systems?

21:23   limepi  it's a symmetry breaking bifurcation

21:23   ChaosNewt       I tried but I got distracted by the chatting where you conveniently explained why my energy felt the way it did.

21:24   ChaosNewt       We can continue anyway if everyone else is comfortable. (' - ')

21:24   LightSearch     Yes, I'm having some blockages in my left arm/shoulder area

21:25   amygdala        I do not believe it is coriolis effect. I know of no rotating coordinate system that would effect the body as such.

21:25   Forge   speaking of which

21:25   Zephyr_Cloudrunner      the what effect?

21:25   Forge   If you notice areas where energy is impassable or moves abnormally slow, this would be considered “stagnant” or a block, and should be cleared. To clear a block or stagnant energy, program ( programming-primerView next to chat ) the energy to influence the block to move and to clear, as well as to flush the meridian or chakra in question.

21:25   amygdala        Especially if it remains constant across both hemispheres.

21:25   amygdala        affect*

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21:25   LightSearch     Thanks for the link

21:26   dekoomer        thanks.

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21:26   amygdala        @ Zephyr The coriolis effect makes things rotate on a deflection path due to another rotating object.

21:26           +++ Forge has given voice to CanICastYet

21:26   Forge   you are late!

21:26   Zephyr_Cloudrunner      ah

21:26   dekoomer        Do the energetic body effects one ability to visualize?

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21:27   ChaosNewt       It's why your toilet flushes in the vortex pattern it does.

21:27   amygdala        We often use it to state tidal patterns.

21:27   Eyulf   Am I late?

21:27   Forge   hello Eyulf, here for the class?

21:27   Eyulf   Yes.

21:27   Forge   yeah, i can provide you with backlog

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21:27   ChaosNewt       Eyulf my friend, CanICastYet was.

21:27   CanICastYet     what?

21:27   amygdala        Not true. The toilet flush direction tends to be due to the way water jets are located.

21:27   Eyulf   Ok. Thank you.

21:28   ChaosNewt       amygdala my friend, no I'm pretty sure most toilets--

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21:28           ChaosNewt crushes the distraction he created

21:28   Forge   http://pastebin.com/NEkNvLf8

21:28   Forge   hello lesh, here for the class?

21:29   Forge   21:26   dekoomer        Do the energetic body effects one ability to visualize?

21:29   Forge   in what way do you mean visualize?

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21:29   Forge   hello buffy, here for the class?

21:30   ChaosNewt       Is it better to imagine a stagnant as a thick gel or a solid that can be fractured and chipped away?

21:30   dekoomer        When I meditate, I have a hard time seeing anything.

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21:30   Buffy   seems like im kinda late

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21:30   Lesh    yesh

21:30   Lesh    im here for the learning

21:30           +++ Forge has given voice to Lesh

21:30   Forge   Buffy not a problem

21:30   Forge   i can provide you with backlog or do the class twice

21:30   Forge   http://pastebin.com/NEkNvLf8

21:31   Lesh    no worries

21:31   Forge   ^backlog

21:31   CanICastYet     is there going to be a log?? I'd like to read it tomorrow unless I'm bit kate

21:31   mib_z79o04      Where do I get psi-condoms?

21:31   Lesh    im here to relax and watch

21:31   Buffy   thanks forge! u're the slayer ;)

21:31           --- Forge has banned mib_z79o04!*@*

21:31   Forge   dekoomer, i would try the visualization primer, visualization-primerView next to chat

21:31   Lesh    lol

21:31   ChaosNewt       Lesh my friend, is that anything like participating?

21:32   Forge   but you could also have a problem with the third eye

21:32   Lesh    perhaps

21:32   Forge   smooth please stop going off topic

21:32   dekoomer        Okay, Forge.

21:32   ChaosNewt       I asked about stagnants.

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21:33   Forge   stagnant energy could work either way, to visualize it one way and one way only is up to you, but i would see it as bad practice

21:33   Forge   Clearing energetic blocks and flushing the system is a healthy practice that is often overlooked. The best analogy is comparing it to stretching before a long run, you don't have to do it, but I wouldn't recommend skipping it. I would recommend flushing and clearing before and after any major energy work.

21:34   Forge   For actively healing the energetic system. The first step in this is obviously to identify the damage, and this is why being familiar with the body, its chakras, meridians, and other parts is so important.

21:34   Forge   Once you become familiar with your own system and how everything works, you can use this familiarization to actively heal it. A simple and effective method to repair damage is to recall the way in which the body properly functions, and reprogram and direct the energy of the body to return to this state, That is, to remind the body how it's supposed to be,

21:34   Forge   ctively guiding it to a more healthy state.

21:35   Forge   actively*

21:35   Forge   This process is also automatically done by the energetic body over time, and the energy around the damage can be programmed to speed up the natural healing process of the energetic system. This will include feeding more energy to the damaged area, and programming the extra energy to accelerate the natural healing process.

21:35   Zephyr_Cloudrunner      hey forge, I can't keep paying attention to the lesson, offline distraction have arisen

21:35   Zephyr_Cloudrunner      sorry

21:35   Forge   no problem

21:35   Forge   ill get you the logs

21:36   Eniri   this might sound like an oxymoron

21:36   Eniri   but the energetic body is energy

21:36   verdant I'd like the logs as well please

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21:36   Eniri   and as such it can be programmed to be damaged, unclean, or healthy

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21:36   Eniri   so fixing things is similar to programming constructs

21:36   shi-shi did i miss much?

21:37   ChaosNewt       No, logs are easy to come by.

21:37   shi-shi >.>

21:37   dekoomer        Forge, what is it that damages our energic bodies in the first place?

21:37   ChaosNewt       I think I feel a really thick stagnant around my sacral chakra.

21:37   Forge   dekoomer it could be any number of things, literally infinite.

21:37   ChaosNewt       Can I get some verification or what should I do about things?

21:38   dekoomer        alright, i was hoping that i could avoid these things.

21:38   Forge   ChaosNewt, use the energy you are moving around, program it to flush your sacral, and get the energy flowing

21:38   ChaosNewt       Yes, you can avoid everything, but it's not very stimulating.

21:38   ChaosNewt       But it feels kind of like it's encased.

21:39   Forge   dekoomer flushing regularly and learning shielding and proper preventative maintenance of your energetic system will prevent almost all of it

21:39   ChaosNewt       Wait I might be able to legit trigger it from the bottom.

21:39   Forge   then use the energy in your sacral, program it to be more fluid, and have it flush itself

21:40   shi-shi ok so what are we a doing?

21:40   shi-shi flushing out the energy system?

21:40   LightSearch     When you tell it to flush itself. Do you say it out loud?

21:40   Forge   shi-shi, http://pastebin.com/NEkNvLf8

21:40   LightSearch     or just in our mind?

21:40   Forge   LightSearch, i personally dont, i just will the energy to do as i wish, and program it

21:41           +++ Forge has given voice to shi-shi

21:41   Eniri   if you're an auditory person, speech might help, but it's not necessary

21:42   dekoomer        Okay, Am still working on feeling out my engeric body. what are Symptoms of a poor or very damaged energic body?

21:42   Forge   so does anyone have any questions as to the implementation, or is anyone running into any roadblocks?

21:42   Eniri   dekoomer do you notice any areas that feel sluggish or like they don't flow well?

21:43   LightSearch     Man, my system is all out of sorts tonight.... Heart and throat chakras are getting real warm

21:43   Forge   LightSearch, when you move a lot of energy in your system, it can produce physical results. i also get very warm when my energy gets moving

21:44   shi-shi ok so where working on healing the energy system?

21:44   dekoomer        I can't be sure. Compare to most people here am still quite numb. i have just recenetly got started.

21:44   Forge   so take it as a good sign unless you burn yourself out

21:44   shi-shi or just flushing it out?

21:44   dekoomer        so i don't know what to look out for, just yet.

21:44   Forge   dekoomer, this is considered the basics, so dont be afraid to ask questions until we can help you get it right

21:44   Forge   shi-shi right now we are working on flushing

21:45           shi-shi nods

21:46   Eyulf   What exactly are the meridian lines again?

21:46   dekoomer        Okay, before i get into the details. I would like to know. How will a strong energetic body improve my day to day life?

21:47   Eniri   meridians are like blood vessels

21:47   Eyulf   Ok. Thank you.

21:47   ChaosNewt       You'll be aware of things that before you dismissed as, "Oh well, things happen and they're not things I can control."

21:47   Forge   dekoomer a strong energetic body and practice can drastically change different aspects of your life. i attribute my job, which is a very sweet gig, and how infrequently i get sick to my practices.

21:47   Forge   those are a few of many examples

21:47   amygdala        If I may point something out?

21:48   Forge   be my guest

21:48   amygdala        Whether or not you believe in psi, you should use these lessons to your advantage.

21:48   amygdala        Understanding your body better will aid you in the rest of your life.

21:48   amygdala        Becoming more focused with metal's techniques will help you think better in life.

21:49   amygdala        I believe in the mind's ability to do incredible things.

21:49   amygdala        This lesson will help us understand our bodies and how they relate to the outside environment.

21:49   ChaosNewt       I'm pretty sure he wasn't asking in a skeptical way.

21:49   Eyulf   What would would it mean if, when crossing the energy up my neck, it tends to constrict.

21:49   Forge   very accurate words of wisdo, amygdala

21:49   Forge   wisdom*

21:49           amygdala is finished with the tirade.

21:50   amygdala        Thank you, Forge.

21:50   Forge   Eyulf, i would try to clear the meridians in your neck and attempt to expand them as well

21:50   ChaosNewt       I don't think I feel damaged.

21:50   Eniri   I think being healthy as opposed to damaged is normal

21:51   Eniri   so don't worry about it

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21:51   amygdala        We perform (or should perform) preventative maintenence on automobiles before they are damaged. The body even more so.

21:51   Forge   limepi, still with us?

21:52   dekoomer        How long and how often should i work on my energetic body. Am perhaps i can get a routine going.

21:53   Eniri   amygdala that's true but the body can also fix itself up

21:53   Forge   dekoomer i recommend flushing and cleaning at least 1 time a day, and before and after every major energy work

21:53   Eniri   that's why it's alive whereas the car isn't

21:53   ChaosNewt       dekoomer my friend, just from what I've done today, I

21:53   amygdala        Agreed, Eniri. If we maintain the body before it breaks, we shouldn't have to fix it.

21:53   ChaosNewt       I'm tempted to think of it like tulpaforcing, do it as often as possible.

21:53   Forge   its more reliable than a car, but still needs to be cared for

21:54   ChaosNewt       You should want to be able to sense changes in your energetic body as often as you want to impose your tulpa or feel that your hand is on the burner and you should move it.

21:54   Forge   the homework for this week is to map your energetic system, and to keep it clean

21:54   Eyulf   Map it and keep it clean. Got it.

21:55   ChaosNewt       I feel things in my head that I'm having trouble resolving.

21:55   Eyulf   Is it possible that the activation of chakras to draw energy involve actually involving parts of it involved, such as singing to a certain part of a body to get throat chaka energy there?

21:55   Eyulf   *chakra

21:56   Forge   involve actually involving parts of it involved

21:56   Forge   wat

21:56   Eniri   Eyulf that can be one way to do it

21:56   Eniri   but it's not the only way

21:56   ChaosNewt       Eyulf my friend, you can do it with method but some find it easier to will directly.

21:56   ChaosNewt       methods*

21:57   dekoomer        As a beginner, should i start work on my energetic body, by focusing on my 7 charkas?

21:57   ChaosNewt       I'm finding I like to move a bit to make energy floq.

21:57   ChaosNewt       flow.*

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21:57   Forge   hello sage101

21:57   Eniri   there are mantras from Buddhism associated with each of the major chakras to open and balance them

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21:57   sage101 yo yo all... did i miss the class?

21:57   ChaosNewt       Kinda.

21:57   sage101 hello forge

21:57   Forge   you are an hour late, i have the logs though

21:58   sage101 Dang it

21:58           shi-shi sighs

21:58   shi-shi mine seems good no major blockages.. but in some areas.. mainly the legs it kinda slows down abit

21:58   Forge   http://pastebin.com/NEkNvLf8

21:58   sage101 ty ty

21:59   sage101 I had to sleep

21:59           +++ Forge has given voice to sage101

21:59   sage101 body was not taking my S***anymore

21:59   dekoomer        The whole energetic body sounds like a hand full. But if it's just mastering the flow of energy between the 7 charkas i think i'd be able to manage.

22:00   ChaosNewt       Gah.

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22:00   ChaosNewt       I can't identify the feeling in my head.

22:00   LightSearch     dekoomer, Yoga helps me pinpoint blockages

22:00   ChaosNewt       Lancing it helps at first but now there's this feeling I can't identify.

22:00   ChaosNewt       helped*

22:00   Forge   dekoomer, its not something that is needed to master, but ease of practice and advancement of methods will increase dramatically

22:00   amygdala        is it a little bit funny?

22:00   amygdala        That feeling inside?

22:01   ChaosNewt       No.

22:01   amygdala        I'm just kidding.

22:01   ChaosNewt       It's like pressure but not.

22:01   amygdala        Do tell.

22:02   dekoomer        Thanks for the tip LightSearch, But i think am way to stiff for Yoga. actually i don't think i have the time nor will to do that.

22:02   ChaosNewt       It's like an ache.

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22:02   ChaosNewt       But solid.

22:02   Forge   is it near the crown or third eye

22:03   ChaosNewt       Back/side of my head.

22:03   ChaosNewt       Towards the bottom more.

22:04   Forge   thats a large clump of meridian lines on a minor chakra, try to soothe the area with light energy and focus on unclumping and flushing

22:04   Eniri   close to the neck?

22:04   limepi  sorry forge, had to go afk

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22:04   Forge   no problem limepi

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22:04   Forge   and welcome back sage101

22:04   sage101 website wouldnt conect

22:04   ChaosNewt       Bright light just makes me think of someone shining a flashlight in your eyes so you can't see.

22:04   sage101 had to dig up my old mirc skills

22:05   Forge   i didnt say bright light

22:05   Forge   i said soothe the area with light (mass) energy

22:05   Forge   think near weightless

22:05   ChaosNewt       OH.

22:06   ChaosNewt       Yeah okay that makes sense.

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22:06   Forge   welcome StormFalcon

22:07   StormFalcon     Merry meet!   <checks the screen>  DAL net?   OMG.  HAven't chatted on here in...oh.....15 years.  Thank you, Forge.

22:07   Forge   we are coming close to the end of our class

22:08   amygdala        Hello StormFalcon.

22:08   ChaosNewt       I'm not sure where to... Put these things.

22:08   Forge   ChaosNewt?

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22:08   ChaosNewt       The meridians.

22:09   Forge   your system knows where they go naturally, just give it the direction to put them in place and give it the energy it needs to make it happen

22:09   StormFalcon     Oh.  forgive me.  I didn't realize a class was in progress.  <listening>

22:10   Forge   are there any other questions before i end the class and open the floor back up?

22:12   ChaosNewt       Yes.

22:12   ChaosNewt       What if I'm an idiot and want to mess with my system.

22:13   Forge   then wait until we cover that in two-three weeks