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how to interface with the astral

By: Karma9003 on Nov 4th, 2012  |  syntax: None  |  size: 5.93 KB  |  hits: 160  |  expires: Never
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  1. 16:34   sh1nji[kurisu]  so forge 1st thing that come to your mind right now! shall be the next wisdom
  2. 16:35   Momo    astral projection and interfacing with the astral?
  3. 16:35   sh1nji[kurisu]  ^^^^
  4. 16:35   sh1nji[kurisu]  sounds good to  me
  5. 16:35   Forge   gimme one sec
  6. 16:36   Forge   finished cleaning up my pastebin for the most part
  7. 16:36   sh1nji[kurisu]  mfw its already paste bined
  8. 16:36   sh1nji[kurisu]  ahh momo nice to see you again
  9. 16:37   Momo    Same
  10. 16:37   sh1nji[kurisu]  ^_^ so how has the wonderful momo been?
  11. 16:38   Forge   okay
  12. 16:38   Momo    Pretty well. Thanks. And yourself?
  13. 16:38   Forge   so one can interface with the astral in 2 separate ways
  14. 16:38   Forge   there is sleep projection and mental projection
  15. 16:39   Forge   sleep projection is reaching a sleep state and tricking your brain into consciousness and leaving
  16. 16:39   sh1nji[kurisu]  momo: good... i guess
  17. 16:39   Forge   mental projection is training your brain to be able to leave the body through meditation
  18. 16:39   sh1nji[kurisu]  ok mental is better for me cuz i cant into lucid dream
  19. 16:39   Forge   the method i prefer most is mental, as you dont have to trick your brain into projecting, and you dont have to spend time remembering what happened, as you were conscious the entire time
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  21. 16:40           *** Goopi is now known as Chupi|away
  22. 16:40   Forge   thats how you consciously interface with the astral
  23. 16:41   Forge   there are other ways that you interface with the astral, but its not projection
  24. 16:41   Forge   such as energy manipulation or remote viewing
  25. 16:41   sh1nji[kurisu]  can you into how you get to the point where you can do that like a guide?
  26. 16:41   Forge   the fuck did you just say to me
  27. 16:41   sh1nji[kurisu]  ???
  28. 16:41   Momo    replace the word into with explain
  29. 16:42   Forge   no i got that part
  30. 16:42   Forge   how did the word guide get in there
  31. 16:42   sh1nji[kurisu]  what? ima lostt... and i have a bad feeling im at fault
  32. 16:42   sh1nji[kurisu]  because my cluster fuck of a brain
  33. 16:42   sh1nji[kurisu]  <.<
  34. 16:43   Momo    How do you get to that point, basically.
  35. 16:43   sh1nji[kurisu]  ok so like i want to know how to exactly mentaly project into astral..
  36. 16:43   Forge   let me finish explaining how everything works
  37. 16:43   sh1nji[kurisu]  <.< yes sensei
  38. 16:44   Forge   reaching out with the mind to the collective unconscious is projecting
  39. 16:44   Forge   one way to do this is to enter a gnosis state, which is the lack of background noise in your mind
  40. 16:45           sh1nji[kurisu] is just gunna lurk up untill the Q&A part of the lession
  41. 16:45   Forge   so you can feel the collective unconscious, or the void, with your mind. :becoming one with the void" is how you project
  42. 16:46   Forge   you have to enter it while close to it by passing through the barrier your mind has put up to keep you safe from it.
  43. 16:46   Forge   feel free to ask questions whenever
  44. 16:47   sh1nji[kurisu]  ok well i understand what your saying but.... sounds hard and complicated and basicly easy way?
  45. 16:48   sh1nji[kurisu]  shortcuts?
  46. 16:48   Forge   there are no shortcuts
  47. 16:48   Forge   the only shortcut is sleep projection
  48. 16:48   Forge   as you dont learn a skill, you trick your  brain
  49. 16:48   Momo    Once you're in the astral i is okay to start thinking normally again? It seems sort of contradictory to be wandering around in the astral while also thinking nothing in the gnosis state.
  50. 16:49   Forge   you can think normally, yes
  51. 16:49   Forge   eventually you will be so in tune with projection that you can do it by closing your eyes
  52. 16:49   Forge   or just focusing on projecting
  53. 16:50           *** Forge is now known as Forgemaster
  54. 16:51   Momo    For the purpose of entering the astral, the only point of gnosis then is to bypass the barrier?
  55. 16:52   Forgemaster     gnosis is also a great way to get in touch with your spiritual body
  56. 16:52   Forgemaster     and to use energy
  57. 16:52   sh1nji[kurisu]   gnosis sounds hard
  58. 16:52   Momo    Sounds like you could do some energy manipulation type of magic to part the barrier then.
  59. 16:52   Forgemaster     its not so much an actual barrier as a metaphor for one
  60. 16:53   Momo    Then what is it?
  61. 16:54   Forgemaster     when you were young and you saw strange things that only other toddlers saw, you werent making it up
  62. 16:54   Forgemaster     you lost your ability to see, and to interact from society saying they dont exist.
  63. 16:54   Forgemaster     the barrier is your minds way of protecting you
  64. 16:55   Momo    Still see strange stuff. Nothing particularly horrible that my mind needs to protect me from.
  65. 16:55   Forgemaster     it was an example lol
  66. 16:55   Forgemaster     but thats the barrier
  67. 16:56   sh1nji[kurisu]  well i always see weird things outa the corner of my eye that i have always thought was my brain playing tricks on me..since most of the time it is when im tired
  68. 16:56   Forgemaster     sometimes they arent real
  69. 16:56   Forgemaster     sometimes they are
  70. 16:56   Momo    Daydreaming as a champion.
  71. 16:57   sh1nji[kurisu]  >.> so the small elf that i always see is just a creepy stalker from the astral?
  72. 16:57   Forgemaster     or a spirit guide
  73. 16:57   Forgemaster     i dont know much about them though
  74. 16:57   Forgemaster     as i didnt really have one
  75. 16:58   sh1nji[kurisu]  <.< ...lame thing is i was joking :'-) tho i have seen what looks like dworfs or gnomes from the corner of my eyes a few times
  76. 16:58   sh1nji[kurisu]  me want spirt guide!
  77. 16:59   sh1nji[kurisu]  >.>
  78. 16:59   Forgemaster     the big part about projection is perceiving what is there, not what your mind tells you is there
  79. 17:00   sh1nji[kurisu]  ^^^had that problem when i tried AP
  80. 17:00   Forgemaster     thats why gnosis is so important
  81. 17:01   sh1nji[kurisu]  >cant into quiting my mind
  82. 17:01   sh1nji[kurisu]  >is always thinking
  83. 17:01   Forgemaster     it takes practice
  84. 17:01   Forgemaster     you wont get it overnight
  85. 17:01   Forgemaster     it took me months
  86. 17:01   sh1nji[kurisu]  >.> but my brian is like an adhd kid on coke
  87. 17:01   sh1nji[kurisu]  <.<
  88. 17:02   Forgemaster     train it
  89. 17:02   Forgemaster     dicipline
  90. 17:02   sh1nji[kurisu]  >.> sounds hard
  91. 17:02   Forgemaster     you let it get out of control, now own up to it and get it under control
  92. 17:02   sh1nji[kurisu]  ;_; ok
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