Alternatives To Energetic Sight - Class log

Log from #Classroom on Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 8PM EST: “Alternatives To Energetic Sight”, hosted by Forge:

[20:01] welcome to Alternatives to Energetic Sight, hosted by Forge

[20:02] huzzah

[20:02] welcome kage

[20:02] thank you forge

[20:02] are you here for class?

[20:03] yes i am, i keep trying to remember to show but i forget every week

[20:03] this time i made sure to go

[20:03] welcome MoonWind

[20:03] * MoonWind is just here to …. observe (pun intended)

[20:04] thanks Forge

[20:04] with the amount of buzz about the topic im surprised so few people showed up :s

[20:05] Buzz?

[20:05] welcome Autumn

[20:06] welcome Atrenoch

[20:06] Hello.

[20:06] hi :)

[20:06] Hello everyone

[20:06] welcome, are you going to be joining us for class Autumn, Atrenoch, Zerubael?

[20:06] I was planning on it

[20:06] Sure, that’s why I’m here.

[20:06] * Forge sets mode: +v Atrenoch

[20:06] * Forge sets mode: +v Zerubael

[20:07] pretty sure thats why we’re all here lol

[20:07] Yeah, true

[20:07] Indeed

[20:07] i ask so i know who to voice

[20:07] * Forge sets mode: +v Autumn

[20:08] we will wait 2 minutes

[20:08] as i usually give 10 minutes for stragglers

[20:09] Tess?

[20:09] Zeph!

[20:09] hi!

[20:09] Hiya.

[20:09] hihi

[20:09] didn’t know you were on here, lol

[20:09] I’m not.

[20:09] Forge invited me for the class.

[20:10] ah

[20:10] so not meaning to sound stupid but what’s this class about again? XD

[20:10] welcome all

[20:10] alternatives to astral sight

[20:11] tonights class will be alternatives to astral/energetic sight

[20:11] The “XD” does not help your case KG.

[20:11] Case for what?

[20:11] a few ways for those out there who have a hard time seeing energy, or processing it visually

[20:11] sorry, force of habbit

[20:13] i guess one way to start the class is to just ask, how many people have trouble seeing energetically?

[20:13] hello SetiAmon

[20:13] * DragonAtma is here.

[20:13] me

[20:13] OMG it said people said “stuff”

[20:13] stuff

[20:13] what

[20:13] So tell me when ya’ll are beginning

[20:14] staph

[20:14] My vision could stand to be better.

[20:15] well anyway

[20:15] there are multiple ways of gathering information energetically that do not require the standard sight that most use

[20:16] it can be used as a replacement for sight if you are completely blind, or it can be used in conjunction with sight with enough practice to aid you

[20:16] ill be going over three methods today

[20:17] one is designed to give you information about an energetic body that you are in contact with without having to view it. one example would be finding whats wrong with someones energy system so you can heal it

[20:18] the other two methods are for detection in a radius

[20:18] ill start with the radical detection methods first

[20:18] the first method is a rather simple one that most people are already familiar with

[20:18] which would be an echolocation.

[20:19] you, or a construct, would send out a pulse of energy designed to return once its met resistance by an energetic body

[20:20] judging the return energy, and depending on how you program the energy, will give you an idea as to where the body is and what it is

[20:20] using multiple waves allow you to track the movement of any energetic body in your radius of return

[20:21] this can also be done by programming multiple constructs that cover a wide area, and report a map of sorts back to a main hub, which you would get the information from, allowing you to build a map of a large area

[20:22] that is the method for wide area scanning without energetic sight

[20:22] any questions/comments?

[20:22] Is there a way to block an echolocation?

[20:23] absorb it

[20:23] I have a comment, about the multiple waves being able to track… Seems kinda like Btoom idea there. I would think you can cancel it out as well

[20:23] Or deflect it.

[20:23] its not a perfect system, but there are ways to improve it as well

[20:24] If you really want to mess with echolocation, absorb the energy and then release it a few seconds after it should be released.

[20:24] * Cene definitely has trouble sensing.

[20:24] if one part of the wave gets disrupted, the other part could tell the construct it was disrupted, and have it report, for example

[20:24] Can this help navigate in a physical environment without sight?

[20:24] Zephyr, havent tried

[20:25] i’d tend to doubt that, otherwise blind friends i’ve known would have done so.

[20:25] I’ve seen a video on where someone used legit echo location cause he was blind.

[20:25] It just doesn’t go out too far.

[20:26] ive seen a video like that too

[20:26] guy rides a bike

[20:26] and clicks with his tongue

[20:26] yeah

[20:26] I’ve seen that guy on tv and online

[20:26] Yup.

[20:26] That’s the one

[20:28] any other questions/comments/concerns before we move on?

[20:28] I’m ready to learn the finer points of how to do this. No other comments.

[20:28] Same

[20:29] likewise

[20:29] the next method is for medium range detection, it involves being very aware of the energy inside of your auras radius

[20:30] it doesnt require your auras energy to use, but its the easiest way to learn the method then apply it to a bigger scale

[20:30] I think I might possibly already do this, if it’s what I’m thinking it is

[20:30] it involves tracking the displacement of energy inside of your aura

[20:31] ie: when something moves into your aura, it displaces the energy belonging to your aura, thus pushing it aside. its similar to feeling air pressure movements

[20:32] I’ve felt this slightly. but isn’t there a constant displacement if they’re still inside your aura field? (sorry for interuption)

[20:32] yes, which is why its helpful for tracking via medium range

[20:32] this process can also be tied to constructs that produce a wider aura as well

[20:33] it acts as a “motion detection”

[20:34] any questions/comments/concerns?

[20:34] I do something similar to this when I’m looking for something near me

[20:35] if I know its there, but I don’t know where it is, I can “feel” around me for something that feels different

[20:35] this process can be applied to energy outside of your aura as well, but its a big jump

[20:35] and that’s where it is

[20:37] any final questions before moving on?

[20:38] How to sense outside the aura?

[20:38] Well, I’m wondering how you’re supposed to see/sense those displacements.

[20:38] for me it’s like I can feel them

[20:39] you feel them

[20:39] I need a different word for the astral version of my senses…

[20:39] if you have ever felt someone elses energy near you, its the same process, but being aware of your own energy

[20:40] Zerubael, its the same process, just being aware of the energy and the natural flow of energy around you, but not your own energy, all of the energy around your radius

[20:41] Okay. Makes sense.

[20:41] can I please be +v?

[20:43] the last method is for close range detection, detecting the structure of an energetic body you are directly near

[20:44] the method involves sending out a pulse of energy through the body programmed to gather information on the current state of the body, and the normal state of the body, and any other statistics you can program it to gather

[20:44] this was originally developed as a way to gather information from someones energetic body for healing

[20:45] but it can be used to gather other info as well, creativity is the limit

[20:48] this, again, can also be programmed into a construct

[20:48] questions/comments/concerns?

[20:49] how exactly do you program it to do that?

[20:49] not a construct

[20:49] but the pulse of energy

[20:49] it would be just as you program any energy to do anything

[20:50] the method i originally used it for would gather what is wrong in the person, and reflect it back onto my astral body so i can feel what the problem is so i know how to fix it

[20:50] ah

[20:52] another way to do it is have the energy reflect the data it gathered onto a visual in your mind of a body, so you can study it, such as the chakras, their placements, any issues with the energetic system, any quirks in the energetic system, etc

[20:53] Oh, see that’s what I was wondering.

[20:54] I know that some people see better through touch, but it’d be painful for me to get detailed info through tactile sensations only.

[20:54] combining all three of these methods using a interconnected net of constructs over a very large radius can gather quite a bit of information for you as well

[20:55] it creates a very useful scouting grid

[20:56] Just remember that you can only process so much information at a time; it’s the same reason you don’t watch three TV shows at once XD

[20:56] thats why i would recommend using a centralized hub construct that will only feed you important information

[20:56] filtering out the rest

[20:56] I use a different method from those, I think.

[20:56] You underestimate my hyper threading abilities combined with long commercial breaks Atma.

[20:56] tell us Autumn

[20:57] zeru: assume it’s the sepcial commercial-free versions

[20:57] and even if you can handle three tv shows at ocne, most of us cannot.

[20:57] It’s similar to the concept behind automatic writing. It’s a form I think they call claircogniance “clear knowing”.

[20:59] You have your 6th sense so to speak, psychic ability etc but everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, some people “see”, some people “hear”, some people “taste” or “feel” etc, like you said with the echo stuff, and then others just “know” and from that, you get a lot of other interesting things that tie into everything else.

[21:00] i understand and also use that method, but i didnt know how to teach that, so i omitted it

[21:00] I wouldn’t call how I sense things “knowing”, but I don’t feel that the standard see, smell, feel words are accurate to what I sense

[21:00] like an astral equivalent of those senses

[21:01] I use it all it the time. I used to use the techniques you were talking about but they can be to me incredibly time consuming and energy consuming and taxing. When I was doing it that way, it was incredibly hard for me. I actually believed I had to SEE auras and although yeah I could do that, it’s not fast it’s like dial-up internet. I use ADSL lol

[21:01] I have a layer of ‘knowing’ underneath whenever I sense, but I also get visuals and feelings over top of that.

[21:04] I started using it more correctly when I got my reiki 1 attunements, within about 6 months, I started noticing things. I just “knew” when someone was sick. It was like an accepted fact in the back of your mind, like an eery creeping feeling – trusting your intuition…. whenever I’d try to “see” someones auras like before, instead i’d get this overwhelming flash of color in my mind … you…

[21:04] …see it in your minds eye and just “know” it’s correct which is often was

[21:04] so, DragonAtma, Autumn, Cene, Zephyr, Zerubael, Atrenoch, kage, MoonWind, Tesseract, would you guys like to practice these techniques or try another practice?

[21:04] hmm

[21:05] I think I’d be better off practicing this at a different time

[21:05] maybe some other time; I need some sleep.

[21:05] I will practice these techniques.

[21:05] I’m okay. I’m here to brush up more on my knowledge of these things.

[21:06] As in practical knowledge?

[21:06] theory. the chat.

[21:06] * Cene needs to study some now, but would definitely like to practise sometime soon.

[21:06] seeya everyone

[21:07] night atma

[21:07] Bye Atama.

[21:07] night

[21:07] night atama

[21:08] seems like we lost a few during class

[21:08] About half.

[21:08] anyway, if anyone would like to practice, let me know what they would like to practice, and we will figure something out

[21:09] Forge, do you have any tips on how to improve astral sight?

[21:09] I’ll be self studying this for a bit and if there is a need for the practice I’ll probably ask someone.

[21:10] Zephyr, maybe another time with another teacher. thats more of the usual stuff that gets taught, and its not part of my curriculum.

[21:10] The third method. It would help to be able to observe things at that proximity. But even before going as far as reading things I’m in contact with, I probably need to better learn how to see faults in my own energetic body.

[21:11] Zerubael, the first thing you would want to do is learn to scan your energetic body and gather information from it, either with sight or with any method described tonight.

[21:11] I’ve been told in the past the specifics of something being off with energy flow, but I couldn’t tell the exact what, only that something was unusual.

[21:11] the pulse method works for your own energetic body too

[21:12] i would give that a shot and attempt to apply it to a visual model in your head to see what you get

[21:24] hmm gone silent

[21:24] I’m pulsing my body.

[21:24] I’m cursing my perveted mind

[21:25] what .. and … why?

[21:25] May as well enjoy it, people are born with a sexual nature by and large. Nothing especially wrong with it.

[21:25] it gets in the way of normal conversation

[21:26] Perverted conversation is normal conversation.

[21:34] well that concludes our lesson on alternatives to energetic sight, thanks for coming out everyone