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  1. 2014-02-01T01:47:09Cheren waves at Hard. "So what's on the agenda for tonight? Getting the murder investingation done and out of the way, or the other thing."
  2. 2014-02-01T01:47:43Hardboil levitates the pamphlet over to his own face to read it, regarding Cheren "Yeah, is Ironbark prepped for trial?"
  3. 2014-02-01T01:47:57Alerderna cleared his throat slightly. "Iron Bark's trial, then the Curiosity spiel, though she's not present for it. Then the Al investigation shall get under way.
  4. 2014-02-01T01:47:58<Alerderna> "
  5. 2014-02-01T01:48:10<Cheren> "Curiosity speil?"
  6. 2014-02-01T01:49:21Alerderna nodded. "Mhmm. It ties in with the whole Vault incident."
  7. 2014-02-01T01:49:52Hardboil scans the document, nodding every few seconds as he does
  8. 2014-02-01T01:49:55Able_Tome nods and shifts his forelegs on the table, "Pretty much... with a good prelude for it.."
  9. 2014-02-01T01:51:23Al_Dente trots toward the town hall shivering as the cool wintereqsue air cuts into his fur. The shawl, poncho, scarf, and armor offering some protection as he tries to shake if off as he takes the first few steps. Entering the main hall his eyes moving around the ponies already inside and sat at the table.
  10. 2014-02-01T01:51:29Al_Dente gaze rests upon Alerderna before he slowly starts to trot along the bench seats over dramatically emphasized from the panning camera view following behind as he eventually reaches the front of the stage and looks to the table. Climbing up and standing before them "Hope Ididnt miss too much."
  11. 2014-02-01T01:51:54Dreamcatcher yawns boredly. She gets up and trots for the door, seeing nothing for her here.
  12. 2014-02-01T01:52:09<Hardboil> "Not a thing."
  13. 2014-02-01T01:52:34Alerderna looked at Al with a kind of blank stare.
  14. 2014-02-01T01:52:39Al_Dente motions at Aler, "I think my seat isnt up just yet."
  15. 2014-02-01T01:52:41Boris[Ronin] breathes manually
  16. 2014-02-01T01:53:07Al_Dente blinks manually
  17. 2014-02-01T01:53:12Dreamcatcher trots out muttering something about direct democracy and food.
  18. 2014-02-01T01:54:25<Alerderna> "For the time being, I am taking the seat. Sticking by the innocent until proven guilty thing, you will get your seat back, like we discussed previously. And, where's your escort? Ah, nevermind... I see a few Guards here, so you can observe."
  19. 2014-02-01T01:54:26CaptGreenHoof leans back in his chair, watching the scene unfold with no discernable expression.
  20. 2014-02-01T01:55:30Al_Dente shakes his head and waves Aler off dismissivly. "While I must respectfully disagree I am still in command of my seat. Beleive and hear what you want but there is no current legislation or written out laws that keep me from keeping on my duely elected council seat. You may be in charge of the guard but you werent elected to do my job, that is where you seem to forget your role."
  21. 2014-02-01T01:55:31<Al_Dente> "I may not be allowed to comment or delegate anything regarding the case itself but community issues and my council duties. They aren’t touched yet."
  22. 2014-02-01T01:55:40<Alerderna> [please tl;dr that]
  23. 2014-02-01T01:55:51<Alerderna> [As I said, my eyes are kind of borked today.]
  24. 2014-02-01T01:55:53Able_Tome raises his brow at the presence of corrupt official and casts an inquisitive glance at Aler
  25. 2014-02-01T01:56:06<Al_Dente> [[ your the guard captain, I am still in my elcted office. You dont fire elcted reps ]]
  26. 2014-02-01T01:56:30Hardboil glances at Al Dente, then places down the pamphlet on the table
  27. 2014-02-01T01:56:43<Alerderna> [This isn't California, this is Fourcannon.]
  28. 2014-02-01T01:56:51CaptGreenHoof is soooooo glad he's just the maritime seat right now...
  29. 2014-02-01T01:57:01<Al_Dente> [[ welcome to my bloc niggah ]]
  30. 2014-02-01T01:57:40Able_Tome frowns, "Your position was stripped down and suspended ergo you do not have any representative power within this hall until investigation is complete."
  31. 2014-02-01T01:57:57Alerderna just kicked back in his seat, not budging an inch.
  32. 2014-02-01T01:58:21Able_Tome yawns and starts to tap his hoof, glancing at the door and waiting for others to arrive.
  33. 2014-02-01T01:58:31<Al_Dente> "Show me where it is written, id like to respectfully see this?"
  34. 2014-02-01T01:58:48<Hardboil> "It was decided by majority consensus."
  35. 2014-02-01T01:58:52<Alerderna> [brb being summoned]
  36. 2014-02-01T01:58:53<Hardboil> "Like most things."
  37. 2014-02-01T01:59:52<Al_Dente> "Well law doesnt work like that, you just dont ram things thru. I still have a say and a right at this table, I havent been found of any wrong doing as of yet, so dont think you can strip me of my office just yet. I can still serve my community whether you think or like it or not."
  38. 2014-02-01T02:00:19<Alerderna> [back]
  39. 2014-02-01T02:00:20Al_Dente shakes his head, "I think your minds already have been made up." Turning away from them and hopping off the stage, starting to trot back towards the exit.
  40. 2014-02-01T02:01:00<Hardboil> "Stay."
  41. 2014-02-01T02:01:08Alerderna sighed slightly, thanking Kek that he didn't have to get in an awkward confrontation.
  42. 2014-02-01T02:01:12Hardboil glares warningly
  43. 2014-02-01T02:01:35<Boris[Ronin]> [Nigga lookin at you hard]
  44. 2014-02-01T02:01:50<Al_Dente> [[ regulate ]]
  45. 2014-02-01T02:02:12Al_Dente takes a few more trots before wavering and glancing back towards Hardboiled voice.
  46. 2014-02-01T02:02:17Boris[Ronin] watches Al walk off, wondering if the rest of this meeting will be fun
  47. 2014-02-01T02:02:22<Cheren> "Just like you rammed things through with Cliff Jumper, not taking into account the rest of the council?"
  48. 2014-02-01T02:02:32Boris[Ronin] thinks it will be
  49. 2014-02-01T02:02:34<Hardboil> "You have not been dismissed. If necessary, your escort will keep you in the building. There is business to be done here regarding your conduct. Even I can see that."
  50. 2014-02-01T02:02:52<Boris[Ronin]> "You never admitted him?"
  51. 2014-02-01T02:03:11<Al_Dente> [[ can you clarify what you said HB? :V ]]
  52. 2014-02-01T02:04:03<Hardboil> "I have evidence that must be addressed and explained. If your answer is satisfactory, you may go."
  53. 2014-02-01T02:05:47Hardboil takes a breath, levitating papers and pamphlets onto the table from his saddlebags
  54. 2014-02-01T02:06:55EyeSpy huffs as she trots into the townhall and takes a seat near Boris.
  55. 2014-02-01T02:07:07Al_Dente narrows his gaze and looks to the papers and pamphlets floating around, not moving standing his ground.
  56. 2014-02-01T02:07:46Hardboil levitates the Cliffjumper report in front of him, "This is the report you cleared, isn't it?"
  57. 2014-02-01T02:08:28Boris[Ronin] looks over to Eye, placing a hoof on her shoulder "Hey Eye, something wrong?"
  58. 2014-02-01T02:08:30Able_Tome looks between Hardboil and Al
  59. 2014-02-01T02:08:37<Al_Dente> "If I recall correctly, yes."
  60. 2014-02-01T02:08:39CaptGreenHoof pops open a jar of pruno and takes a swig.
  61. 2014-02-01T02:09:04EyeSpy pouts. "This whole thing is wrong."
  62. 2014-02-01T02:09:08<Hardboil> "On the report, you listed the sentence as 'deportation'. Correct?"
  63. 2014-02-01T02:09:20<Al_Dente> "As I understand we deported her yes."
  64. 2014-02-01T02:09:35<Boris[Ronin]> "Thing?"
  65. 2014-02-01T02:09:43Alerderna just looked on at Al.
  66. 2014-02-01T02:10:01Redlight [[email protected]] has joined #FourCannon-Townhall
  67. 2014-02-01T02:10:13<Al_Dente> "Look."
  68. 2014-02-01T02:10:22<Hardboil> "I see." he levitates the report back to his own possession. "I understand you're not able to read Equestrian, Al Dente. Is that true?"
  69. 2014-02-01T02:10:36<Al_Dente> "Why dont we leave this for the trial, this is a council meeting."
  70. 2014-02-01T02:10:53<Hardboil> "This isn't a trial."
  71. 2014-02-01T02:11:01<Hardboil> "I just need some questions answered."
  72. 2014-02-01T02:11:19<CaptGreenHoof> [we need lawyers in Four Cannon]
  73. 2014-02-01T02:11:29Cheren looks at Al Dente, hoping that he will answer the question.
  74. 2014-02-01T02:12:49Hardboil thumps a stack of papers on the desk "This is a complete copy of the Equestrian locomotive passenger manifest for the Town of 4Cannon."
  75. 2014-02-01T02:12:53<Able_Tome> [/me raises his hoof for Head Prosecutor/Procuror]
  76. 2014-02-01T02:14:08Able_Tome leans back, settling into the chair
  77. 2014-02-01T02:14:09Cheren 's ears twitch slightly with the thud of the papers.
  78. 2014-02-01T02:14:09Hardboil flips through a few pages with his magic "The date on the report is 'December 22nd'. The calender Equestrians use is different, but I was able to ask what the equivalent was."
  79. 2014-02-01T02:15:41<Hardboil> "I matched the dates, and went through the records... and I found what I was looking for."
  80. 2014-02-01T02:15:56Alerderna looks over to Hard.
  81. 2014-02-01T02:16:04<Alerderna> ['cause he makes me hard]
  82. 2014-02-01T02:16:30Able_Tome side looks at Detective, "... so...? Where to?"
  83. 2014-02-01T02:17:10Hardboil looks at Al Dent "Are you aware that neither 'Cliffjumper', or anyone matching the description, had boarded the train at all?"
  84. 2014-02-01T02:18:44Flora [[email protected]] has joined #FourCannon-Townhall
  85. 2014-02-01T02:18:47Able_Tome blinks, "... huh?"
  86. 2014-02-01T02:19:07<Flora> [i heard this is were the cool kids hang]
  87. 2014-02-01T02:19:18Alerderna rubbed his chin slightly. "...That mean she would've fallen under Embassy juridstiction?"
  88. 2014-02-01T02:19:28<Hardboil> "The passenger manifest is very thoroughly kept. If they didn't have a name, they would have put a description."
  89. 2014-02-01T02:19:46Cheren inhales some air. "So she never boarded the train at all?"
  90. 2014-02-01T02:20:07CaptGreenHoof sits in his chair expressionless, but thinks internally 'oh Al... what'd you get yourself into my friend...'
  91. 2014-02-01T02:20:19Hardboil shakes his head at Aler, flitting a paper over to him "What you have there is Cliffjumper's citizenship papers. She was a citizen of 4Cannon. Our jurisdiction."
  92. 2014-02-01T02:20:25<Al_Dente> [[ 1 moment :v ]]
  93. 2014-02-01T02:20:50<Hardboil> [k. sorry, had to drop this bombshell sometime...]
  94. 2014-02-01T02:21:20<Al_Dente> [[ no noparents ]]
  95. 2014-02-01T02:21:59Able_Tome blinks again, "Wait... Royal Guards haven't put her on the train and released her or something?"
  96. 2014-02-01T02:22:58<Hardboil> "I haven't the slightest. All I know is she's either still in this town, nearby it, or the embassy lied for some reason. I'm not sure which to think."
  97. 2014-02-01T02:23:29<Hardboil> "There's of course another possibility... that she's dead. But I hope that's not the case."
  98. 2014-02-01T02:23:59<Cheren> "I hope not either. For all of us."
  99. 2014-02-01T02:24:15Al_Dente beckons Hardboiled.
  100. 2014-02-01T02:24:27Hardboil quirks a brow
  101. 2014-02-01T02:25:22<Hardboil> "If you can say it to me, you can say it to the council."
  102. 2014-02-01T02:25:39<Al_Dente> "But I have my choice."
  103. 2014-02-01T02:26:07<Hardboil> "Your choice?"
  104. 2014-02-01T02:26:30Al_Dente beckons Hardboil.
  105. 2014-02-01T02:26:46Rain_Drop [[email protected]] has joined #FourCannon-Townhall
  106. 2014-02-01T02:26:58Alerderna oh yeah, turned his attention to Al
  107. 2014-02-01T02:27:15Phoenix_Down[mobile] [~androirc@2600:100c:b209:ae3a:e2ce:5582:15d2:3d6b] has joined #FourCannon-Townhall
  108. 2014-02-01T02:27:33<Hardboil> "Al Dente, you will speak before the entire council, or no one at all. We need an explanation."
  109. 2014-02-01T02:28:20Rain_Drop tiredly trots into the building eyes half lidded as there are lines under her eyes as she approaches the council table. "Sorry I was late, was held up with something....what I *yawn* miss?"
  110. 2014-02-01T02:29:23<Cheren> "There was no record of Cliff Jumper leaving on the train like was written in the guard's report. And Able has some stuff to present later as well."
  111. 2014-02-01T02:29:28Phoenix_Down[mobile] walks in late behind Rain, keeping quiet and finding a seat somewhere
  112. 2014-02-01T02:30:33<Al_Dente> "If that is how it must be Hardboil."
  113. 2014-02-01T02:30:36Able_Tome just rests in the seat, looking forth at standing Al, "What the hell's going on...?"
  114. 2014-02-01T02:30:47<Hardboil> "Hmm."
  115. 2014-02-01T02:31:19<Hardboil> "Tell you what, there will be no secrets during the trial. But I suppose I can offer you this much." he says, getting up and walking over to him
  116. 2014-02-01T02:31:34<Rain_Drop> "Hi Chere, Able, Al, Harvy, Nix, Able, wiat already said that one..."
  117. 2014-02-01T02:31:45<Al_Dente> "I am here to accept responsibility for that which I did. I will not accept responsibility for that which I did not do. I was provided with additional input that was radically different from the truth. I assisted in furthering that version. There is many complexities to this and by the end of this...I will abhorrent of my own actions."
  118. 2014-02-01T02:31:49Rain_Drop rubs at a hoof tiredly
  119. 2014-02-01T02:32:19Rain_Drop is more tired than she thought as she rubs at her eyes not her hoof.
  120. 2014-02-01T02:32:41Al_Dente sighs and looks at the bench seats next to him, sauntering in a trot and taking a seat before he rests his chin in his hooves. "I came here to tell you the truth, so if I may this will take some time."
  121. 2014-02-01T02:33:11<Hardboil> "All I asked for is an explanation. I found a contradiction which I needed clarified."
  122. 2014-02-01T02:34:18<Al_Dente> "Nope, this ends today. Things aren’t as they seem, there are contradictions and discrepancies that lead further into the true nature of what happened with Cliff Jumper."
  123. 2014-02-01T02:34:57Cheren eye's flash brightly for a second as he simmers, waiting for Al to tell what happened.
  124. 2014-02-01T02:35:01Able_Tome tilted his head to the side and re-adjusts himself in the seat, leaning forth to the table, "Well now... lets hear the preliminary confession then..."
  125. 2014-02-01T02:35:10Alerderna crossed his forelegs and just looked at Al with an inquisitive look.
  126. 2014-02-01T02:35:22<Hardboil> "You're prepared to give us the full story, then? Thank you." he says, taking his seat once more
  127. 2014-02-01T02:36:06CaptGreenHoof leans back in his chair, nervous for Al's well being but relieved that the story is finally being put out in the open.
  128. 2014-02-01T02:36:09Phoenix_Down[mobile] looks around the room with a grimace, but keeps to himself as he simply listens on
  129. 2014-02-01T02:36:30Boris[Ronin] places a hoof over Eye's mouth, whispering to her
  130. 2014-02-01T02:37:03<EyeSpy> [help! rape!]
  131. 2014-02-01T02:37:11<Alerderna> ["ur a faget"]
  132. 2014-02-01T02:37:12EyeSpy nods
  133. 2014-02-01T02:37:19<Al_Dente> "Ikea, myself and Curiosity are the ones who circumnavigated the council to handle the Cliff Jumper issue out of circut. But our intentions intially werent any of malice or conspiracy, after weeks of no progress with our interrigation and such no progress has been made. Eventually Curiosity and Ikea work out and I agree into a plan to try and coherce Cliff and allude her to trusting Curi and
  134. 2014-02-01T02:37:20<Able_Tome> [roll for anal circumference]
  135. 2014-02-01T02:37:21<Rain_Drop> "Well thats good to know Al, honesty being the best policy fter all..."
  136. 2014-02-01T02:37:22<Al_Dente> "With that garner a communicate that did eventually reveal some Intel and the true nature of her initial whereabouts and place of origin. "
  137. 2014-02-01T02:37:59<Rain_Drop> "So you worked with Curi as a undercover agent thing?"
  138. 2014-02-01T02:38:09Able_Tome 's ear twitches at the name of particular name, "Sshhhh"
  139. 2014-02-01T02:38:35Al_Dente nods, "More or less as the confidential informent. Ikea was the logistics aspect of it and I fostered the episodes that allowed for us to carry out our actions."
  140. 2014-02-01T02:39:10Able_Tome frowns, "... go on."
  141. 2014-02-01T02:39:18Cheren leans his elbows on the table and crosses his hooves, thinking he sees a fly he looks away from the proceedings briefly before returning his attention to it.
  142. 2014-02-01T02:39:24<Rain_Drop> "I see...continue if you could please."
  143. 2014-02-01T02:40:24<Al_Dente> "Curiosity was the go two between me and Ikea, she posed as the one to try and get the intel from Cliff. I only fostered time."
  144. 2014-02-01T02:41:14<Cheren> "What was so important that none of the other council could be informed of this plan?"
  145. 2014-02-01T02:41:33Hardboil listens with interest
  146. 2014-02-01T02:42:18<Al_Dente> "So others wouldnt start bombarding guards, demanding access to Cliff, or simply it get struck down and we pratically close the door and have a prisioner with to now simply..... Indefinatly hold, we needed something to break the silence when she clearly had bigger intentions."
  147. 2014-02-01T02:42:20Able_Tome listens intently to the conversation as a piece of charcoal floats out of his pocket
  148. 2014-02-01T02:43:33<Able_Tome> "Entire council was aware about attack on Prefect... some of us were waiting for data... continue...", he says and starts to write down details in the notebook
  149. 2014-02-01T02:43:33<Cheren> "And those were?"
  150. 2014-02-01T02:43:34<Rain_Drop> "So she was staying quiet and wouldnt budge on her motive and such? Well shouldnt you have just had her confined for a set amount of time, or just have her be whats the word...tried so we could determine her punishment for assualt?"
  151. 2014-02-01T02:43:59<Cheren> "Yeah, assault, probbable attempted murder..."
  152. 2014-02-01T02:44:19<Hardboil> "Let him continue, guys..."
  153. 2014-02-01T02:44:27<Cheren> "Fine..."
  154. 2014-02-01T02:44:27<Al_Dente> "As I was saying."
  155. 2014-02-01T02:44:34Al_Dente clears his throat loudly.
  156. 2014-02-01T02:44:38<Rain_Drop> :Right right sorry..."
  157. 2014-02-01T02:44:49Orange_Burst [[email protected]] has joined #FourCannon-Townhall
  158. 2014-02-01T02:45:19<Al_Dente> "Soo we had that, but didnt want to slap the death or council punishment on her because that would silence her and close the door, so as I said we worked out this ploy and eventually set it into action."
  159. 2014-02-01T02:45:54Orange_Burst comes in silently trying not to disturb anyone as she tries to crawl somewhere were she can watch and listen
  160. 2014-02-01T02:45:55EyeSpy leans onto Boris with a worried expression.
  161. 2014-02-01T02:46:18Cheren sighs and makes a few notes for later.
  162. 2014-02-01T02:47:14Able_Tome tilts his eyes up from the notebook and looks through the hall, observing those who gathered there
  163. 2014-02-01T02:47:36Phoenix_Down[mobile] casts a glance at Boris and Eye with a frown, before turning back to the proceedings
  164. 2014-02-01T02:48:18<Al_Dente> "We got Cliff moved from the cells to a location fostered to us by Ikea, there Curi was able to garner enough intel from Cliff to have us find out she was from a wayward band of Diamond Dog bandits, she hated the town and its people, she promptly left shortly into her citizenship here to try her luck at the wilds. The band kidnapped and did various things too her and eventually she over time grew
  165. 2014-02-01T02:48:32<Al_Dente> "An affinity, she was somehow ostracized and cast out in the middle of the winter and managed to reach the town. Somehow in her mind she formulated that killing Ikea. Not that was a mistake, but somehow attacking the town, taking some ledgers or something of value would show her worth and she would come back to a hero’s welcome and be welcomed back in but the issue is that they were most likely\
  166. 2014-02-01T02:48:42Orange_Burst pokes my head half way out to look at everyone, still not trying to disturb everyone.
  167. 2014-02-01T02:48:42Able_Tome looks through Orange, Phoenix... and stops at Boris and Eye, narrowing his eyes a bit... and immediately resumes writing the note while listening to earth pony
  168. 2014-02-01T02:49:26Hardboil blinks
  169. 2014-02-01T02:49:36Boris[Ronin] breathes
  170. 2014-02-01T02:50:13Phoenix_Down[mobile] exists
  171. 2014-02-01T02:50:15Alerderna crossed his forelegs and set them on the table.
  172. 2014-02-01T02:50:30<Al_Dente> "long gone as she spoke of them it became apparent she was rather... Dilluted but we had hoped to get intel out then launch a guard op before anything could happen to recapture her but the snow started getting harsh and the winter closed it up on us. That night, morning, but when we were in the black  and I couldnt reach the point Cliff somehow escaped."
  173. 2014-02-01T02:51:02<Hardboil> "And then?"
  174. 2014-02-01T02:51:13<Al_Dente> "We had also fostered some forged info that was apparently what she was after, nameless numbers and pointless charts. All made up before hand to hand off, but ehhh...."
  175. 2014-02-01T02:51:19Able_Tome writes down, stopping for a sec and pulls the paper out of the journal and carefully levitates it towards Hardboil's place against the table while listening to Al
  176. 2014-02-01T02:51:29Orange_Burst finds all this very interesting
  177. 2014-02-01T02:52:05Al_Dente watches Able pass the note, "It was at that point we agreed to, put it behind us and move ahead."
  178. 2014-02-01T02:52:28Hardboil slides to himself "What? You didn't go after her?"
  179. 2014-02-01T02:53:05<Al_Dente> "Cliff left into the winter fray with hardly any clothes or supplies, with a dream to go after her original group. I wasnt able to reach the area to do the capture op, when Curi realized what happened there were no tracks, snow covered it up and well.... With no gear."
  180. 2014-02-01T02:53:06Able_Tome tilts his head to the side for a moment, his horn releasing the incantation and resumes writing, "Hm..."
  181. 2014-02-01T02:53:36Hardboil narrows his eyes, feeling as though the conclusion to this is almost at hand
  182. 2014-02-01T02:53:42<Hardboil> hoof*
  183. 2014-02-01T02:53:46<Rain_Drop> "I see..."
  184. 2014-02-01T02:54:04Rain_Drop takes a deep breath as she stays awake for the meeting.
  185. 2014-02-01T02:55:10Alerderna gibes Rain a Red Bull OOCly
  186. 2014-02-01T02:55:33Hardboil looks at Able, then back to the paper
  187. 2014-02-01T02:56:00Alerderna caught a glimpse on the paper. Only briefly, though. As quick as he saw said paper, he looked back to Al.
  188. 2014-02-01T02:56:17Hardboil puts it in his pocket
  189. 2014-02-01T02:56:20Cheren waits patiently for Alto continue
  190. 2014-02-01T02:56:34Able_Tome tilts his eyes up at Al, pausing his writing for a moment.
  191. 2014-02-01T02:58:43CaptGreenHoof still sits leaned back in his chair, occasionally nodding but still keeping that emotionless, indiscernable expression.
  192. 2014-02-01T02:58:46Rain_Drop appreciates the sentiment but is most likely going to pass out soonish but continues soldiering on IC. Rain stares intently at Al as she waits for the rest of the story.
  193. 2014-02-01T02:59:00<Al_Dente> "I'm still in touch with a lot people who continue to serve our community well. I never considered myself a fall guy, I know what I did, I know why I did it, and Ill live with it for the rest of my life."
  194. 2014-02-01T02:59:37<Hardboil> "Wait, you didn't mention what Curiousity did."
  195. 2014-02-01T02:59:55Cheren nods in agreement.
  196. 2014-02-01T03:00:05<Hardboil> "She just... gave up?"
  197. 2014-02-01T03:00:14Orange_Burst ears go up as she hears the name of curiosity
  198. 2014-02-01T03:00:41<Al_Dente> "Did you not hear where I mentioned, when she realized Cliff had escaped the snow had covered the tracks and at Cliff's lack of gear. The... Reality presented itself."
  199. 2014-02-01T03:01:39<Alerderna> [brb tobacco]
  200. 2014-02-01T03:01:40Able_Tome frowns at the statement and coughs, "I think that will be enough for now..."
  201. 2014-02-01T03:01:46<Cheren> "Curiouser and curioser. This only rases more questions..."
  202. 2014-02-01T03:02:26<Hardboil> "It does... but we have other matters to attend to. That will be all for now regarding this case, I think."
  203. 2014-02-01T03:02:27Able_Tome smirks and glances at Aler and Detective, "Separation of evidence."
  204. 2014-02-01T03:02:30<Rain_Drop> "So we dont have actual confirmation on the matter of where Cliffjumper is hih??"
  205. 2014-02-01T03:02:41Hardboil shakes his head at Rain no
  206. 2014-02-01T03:03:26<Cheren> "It seems that way. Or whether the bandits have any corrolation with the diamond dogs that were in town recently either."
  207. 2014-02-01T03:03:29Hardboil hopes Rain will stay awake for just a little longer, since the council needs her to discuss something
  208. 2014-02-01T03:04:48Able_Tome 's horn extinguishes and drops the piece of coal on the table and looks at Aler and then Detective
  209. 2014-02-01T03:05:28<Cheren> "Or if there were any bandits at all."
  210. 2014-02-01T03:06:11<Hardboil> "Hm... well, at any rate, you're free to leave the building, Al Dente. You can head back to the barracks now."
  211. 2014-02-01T03:06:52Al_Dente glares over the council members before turning around and trotting out wordlessly of the town hall, leaving the doors open as frigid winter air blasts into the building.
  212. 2014-02-01T03:07:07<Alerderna> [back]
  213. 2014-02-01T03:07:16<Rain_Drop> "So it seems to me that this whole situation was covered up due to Cliff escaping and making the guard look bad and since Cliff was most likely dead, then all the better." Rain looks to the other council members "That about sum it up?"
  214. 2014-02-01T03:07:31<Able_Tome> "Not yet..."
  215. 2014-02-01T03:07:40<Al_Dente> [[ Dont forget Ikea ]]
  216. 2014-02-01T03:07:49<Able_Tome> "But this should be discussed strictly with investigation."
  217. 2014-02-01T03:07:55Alerderna rubbed his chin a bit, thinking of more routes of this investigation.
  218. 2014-02-01T03:07:59<Hardboil> "Indeed."
  219. 2014-02-01T03:08:06Orange_Burst looks at al dente leave and she closes the door with her horn
  220. 2014-02-01T03:08:09<Al_Dente> [[ [19:07:41] <Able_Tome> "But this should be discussed strictly with investigation." ]]
  221. 2014-02-01T03:08:18<Al_Dente> [[ yes but lets refuse me the right to speak about it in private ]]
  222. 2014-02-01T03:08:55<Hardboil> [whaaat.]
  223. 2014-02-01T03:09:05<Cheren> "That and if he believed what he did was right, why try to cover it up? Bandits that know we're ripe for picking are a major threat to this town. There's something else going on here."
  224. 2014-02-01T03:09:06<Able_Tome> [...?]
  225. 2014-02-01T03:09:46Hardboil sighs, "I don't know. The bandits might have to be routed by adventuring parties at this point..."
  226. 2014-02-01T03:09:49<Able_Tome> "Something is not right... why would someone go this bad to forge a docu-", he stops and glances at Boris and Eye, "Mm..."
  227. 2014-02-01T03:10:02Boris[Ronin] waves at Able
  228. 2014-02-01T03:10:28EyeSpy winks at Able with both eyes at the same time.
  229. 2014-02-01T03:10:35<Boris[Ronin]> [Eye pls]
  230. 2014-02-01T03:10:35Hardboil looks at Rain and sees she's sleepy "Well. Hmm. Can we change the subject? I have an inquiry. The document said I could do that."
  231. 2014-02-01T03:10:39Orange_Burst looks back at the others
  232. 2014-02-01T03:11:00Able_Tome doesn't reacts to waves and frowns, "Aye... wait."
  233. 2014-02-01T03:11:11<Able_Tome> "Rain haven't seen the document yet, I believe."
  234. 2014-02-01T03:11:17<Boris[Ronin]> [Well fuk u 2, trying to wave at a buddy]
  235. 2014-02-01T03:11:27<Boris[Ronin]> [/me runs out of the hall, crying]
  236. 2014-02-01T03:11:27<Able_Tome> [:c]
  237. 2014-02-01T03:11:28<Mary_ONette_> [/me is tempted to bring Short in finish up her role, since the council is all here]
  238. 2014-02-01T03:11:36Cheren waves at Boris for Able
  239. 2014-02-01T03:11:41<Able_Tome> [kek]
  240. 2014-02-01T03:11:51Alerderna tips his Fedora internally at both Eye and Boris
  241. 2014-02-01T03:12:02<Able_Tome> "Can someone pass a note to Rain?"
  242. 2014-02-01T03:12:05<Hardboil> "I'm sure this isn't something she'll refuse to answer."
  243. 2014-02-01T03:12:12Hardboil slides the pamphlet to Rain
  244. 2014-02-01T03:12:22<Mary_ONette_> [I'll wait til you're all finished. just ping or something]
  245. 2014-02-01T03:12:23<Able_Tome> "Heh, sure... but just for reference..."
  246. 2014-02-01T03:12:57<Rain_Drop> "Hm/"
  247. 2014-02-01T03:13:09Rain_Drop looks at the pamphlet that is given to her as she starts to read it...
  248. 2014-02-01T03:13:45Orange_Burst wonders what is written on that paper
  249. 2014-02-01T03:14:36FeatherDuster [[email protected]] has joined #FourCannon-Townhall
  250. 2014-02-01T03:15:10Hardboil clears his throat "So yeah. I was wondering how the plans for a 4Cannon weather team are going, and if you have an estimate as to when it will be fully organized?"
  251. 2014-02-01T03:17:06Rain_Drop slides the paper away as she rubs at her eyes "Well Im planning on getting it started officially on monday, have things to do with the farm underground at the catacombs and check on how Flora is doing with ith as well as personal business that needs to be done over the weekend."
  252. 2014-02-01T03:17:09Phoenix_Down[mobile] hears something directly related to him and perks up
  253. 2014-02-01T03:18:01<Hardboil> "Will we be making it an official public organization when it's finished?"
  254. 2014-02-01T03:18:34<Rain_Drop> "Main point of the weather team is going to be mainly cloud busting, so far from my few attempts at it, clouds under the desingation of wild seem to regenerate and attempt to reform prompting either rapid fire use of pegasi busting or cordinated te- HM? Oh well i would imagine so as its a public service to the town it self ."
  255. 2014-02-01T03:19:07Hardboil nods "Do you need more fliers to keep the clouds away?"
  256. 2014-02-01T03:19:21EyeSpy makes a frowny face at Boris.
  257. 2014-02-01T03:20:03<Rain_Drop> "Was aiming to attempt raising the tempeture by at least ten degrees somehow if we are able to keep the sun shinnning up on the town, well so far I have Nix, possibly Chinny and Golden though they have other obligations and thats about it, I need to make a post in the inn since everyone seems to frequent there the most instead of the bulletin board it seems."
  258. 2014-02-01T03:20:18Rain_Drop shakes her head as she winces from pain
  259. 2014-02-01T03:20:36Boris[Ronin] shakes his head, whispering to her
  260. 2014-02-01T03:20:39<Rain_Drop> "Oh I was hoping to make an inquiry if I may?"
  261. 2014-02-01T03:20:54EyeSpy hugs Boris
  262. 2014-02-01T03:21:16Able_Tome nods as he looks through his journal, "Sure... if that is all, Detective."
  263. 2014-02-01T03:21:27<Rain_Drop> "Glimmer had brought up the idea of bringing in new texts and books for our library something along the lines of specialized texts so we can advances our studies?" Rain says as she looks to Able for confirmation.
  264. 2014-02-01T03:21:30<Hardboil> "That's all, yes Able."
  265. 2014-02-01T03:21:49Phoenix_Down[mobile] stands up "if i may, I had an inquiry about the council itself..."
  266. 2014-02-01T03:22:05<Rain_Drop> "Go ahead Nix."
  267. 2014-02-01T03:22:06CaptGreenHoof looks down at the table, ears folding back, looking somewhat dejected at all this flight talk...
  268. 2014-02-01T03:22:15Alerderna looked at Ra-oh, no, to Phoe.
  269. 2014-02-01T03:22:25Able_Tome looks at Rain and gave a nod to her, "We... we already have one of the strange texts there, hm... not sure what is what, but y-", he pauses at Nix's words and sighs
  270. 2014-02-01T03:22:50Able_Tome looks at Phoenix
  271. 2014-02-01T03:24:19Phoenix_Down[mobile] sees the sigh "ehh more an inquiry about re elections... as it seems several spots have simply been filled by themselves, and the fact it has been months since the last, I know its not the best time, I was simply curious to that situation"
  272. 2014-02-01T03:25:10Alerderna remembered something. "I was kinda gunna inquire about that myself..."
  273. 2014-02-01T03:25:12<Able_Tome> "The term's not over yet, but I gather temporary posts will be open to be filled."
  274. 2014-02-01T03:25:12<Rain_Drop> "ah, when do we host reelections again?"
  275. 2014-02-01T03:25:32<Hardboil> "I suppose I have an appointed position... Maybe there should be an election for this seat specifically?"
  276. 2014-02-01T03:25:45<Cheren> "Temporarily while the investigation of Al Dente is under way, and yes, Sleeves stepped down. We do need a different form of government."
  277. 2014-02-01T03:26:10<Cheren> "But that is debate for another night once everything is settled down and the case is resolved."
  278. 2014-02-01T03:26:15<Able_Tome> "The council works, but it needs to be redifined with that proposition being the first one."
  279. 2014-02-01T03:26:29<Able_Tome> "Aye."
  280. 2014-02-01T03:26:41<Hardboil> "Agreed."
  281. 2014-02-01T03:26:49Alerderna nodded in agreement.
  282. 2014-02-01T03:26:50High_Tide [[email protected]] is now known as Dota_Tide
  283. 2014-02-01T03:27:31<CaptGreenHoof> "Aye."
  284. 2014-02-01T03:27:36<Cheren> "What you are proposing in the document? Sounds fine."
  285. 2014-02-01T03:28:36<CaptGreenHoof> "I do like Able's proposal, if not just as something to start with. Perhaps it's too American of me, but I like the idea of our government having written rules within which to operate and not legally be able to deviate from."
  286. 2014-02-01T03:28:37<Rain_Drop> "Think we should let everyone read over it but it seeems solid to me/
  287. 2014-02-01T03:29:03<Hardboil> "We have a Bill of Rights, Hoof."
  288. 2014-02-01T03:29:26Able_Tome shrugs, "Then pass them over, I guess... and the Bill needs to be updated..."
  289. 2014-02-01T03:29:35Orange_Burst gets out quietly and head back to the inn
  290. 2014-02-01T03:29:38<Hardboil> "I pretty much copied it from the American Constitution anyway."
  291. 2014-02-01T03:29:43<Able_Tome> "The proposition, that is..."
  292. 2014-02-01T03:30:14Alerderna cleared his throat slightly. "I, myself, do support Able's proposal."
  293. 2014-02-01T03:30:24Orange_Burst [[email protected]] has left #FourCannon-Townhall
  294. 2014-02-01T03:30:30Able_Tome facehoofs, "The paper, ugh... bloody hell...", he mutters last words and levitates several pamphlets to Nix, Boris, Eye and those who gathered...
  295. 2014-02-01T03:30:42Boris[Ronin] rises, raising his hoof and ooh, a pamphlet
  296. 2014-02-01T03:30:49<Able_Tome> [http://pastebin.com/Vs1K1ZG2]
  297. 2014-02-01T03:31:02<Hardboil> "Yes, the inquiry system seems effective. As do the consequences for disregarding protocol. I like it."
  298. 2014-02-01T03:31:16EyeSpy internally thinks 'tl;dr'
  299. 2014-02-01T03:31:18Rain_Drop blinks as she yawns
  300. 2014-02-01T03:31:51<Rain_Drop> "Kay, so we  need to do the thing...with bhe talking bout Als thing... andd stuffff...."
  301. 2014-02-01T03:32:09<Able_Tome> "That and moving closer to department work and cooperation, with council acting as overseeing authority..."
  302. 2014-02-01T03:32:25EyeSpy blinks and reads it with Boris cuz it's important yo.
  303. 2014-02-01T03:32:38<Liven> [Council, I demand a law for having duels between feuding citizens]
  304. 2014-02-01T03:32:44<Able_Tome> "For example, I and Ikea... who haven't appeared on the meeting for some reason, hm... yeah, well, there was a meeting in the Vault regarding improvement plans for the town."
  305. 2014-02-01T03:32:44<Hardboil> "I believe we still need to address getting more books into the library, right? You look a mite tired, Rain Drop" He smiles
  306. 2014-02-01T03:32:51Boris[Ronin] feels like that one kid in class that has his hand up for the longest, and the teacher is looking towards the board, and you don't want to interrupt her, but you're also suspicious that as soon as you put your hand down someone else will put theirs up and she iwll turn around. Yeah, kinda like that
  307. 2014-02-01T03:32:57Boris[Ronin] feels he's overthinking this
  308. 2014-02-01T03:33:29<Hardboil> "The engineer's meeting, right. Heard about that."
  309. 2014-02-01T03:34:46<Able_Tome> "Mmhm... two comprehensive plans were divised and several 'business' propositions brought by others... I can go for a long winded explanation now, or pass the paper with one later... that and public announcement for those."
  310. 2014-02-01T03:35:16<Cheren> "I'll look into it. Get a list on my desk what you need. I think we can swing some funds. There's been a discrepancy in some lumber accounting, so I'm working on that before we can get it some of it shipped off, and yes, papers please, Able."
  311. 2014-02-01T03:35:18<Able_Tome> "Lots of priorities to be put into infrastructure, mining, prospecting sites and production venues in the town."
  312. 2014-02-01T03:35:20Nova_Flux [[email protected]] has quit IRC: Ping timeout: 186 seconds
  313. 2014-02-01T03:36:04Rain_Drop jerks awake as she looks up from where she was staring at the table "Wasat? Oh yeah,, yeah Im good, um yheabooks, Glimmer wanted something fresh for everyone to read as well as assist us in learning the next teir of language in Equestrian.."
  314. 2014-02-01T03:36:42<Able_Tome> "Alright... then I shall pass one today and drop one at Ikea's...", he nods to Cheren and looks at Rain, "Well... first thing's first... we'd need to establish courses for High."
  315. 2014-02-01T03:36:51<Hardboil> "That would be useful."
  316. 2014-02-01T03:36:53Boris[Ronin] waves his raised hoof
  317. 2014-02-01T03:37:05<Hardboil> "Boris, would you like to make an inquiry?"
  318. 2014-02-01T03:37:08<CaptGreenHoof> "For... High?"
  319. 2014-02-01T03:37:11<Cheren> "High Tide? Nobody's teaching him?"
  320. 2014-02-01T03:37:27Phoenix_Spectator [[email protected]] is now known as Phoenix_Down
  321. 2014-02-01T03:37:31<Phoenix_Down> [sorry bout that, was driving home]
  322. 2014-02-01T03:37:36Able_Tome facehooves, "Equestrian... next tier... eh..."
  323. 2014-02-01T03:37:47<Cheren> "Ah."
  324. 2014-02-01T03:37:54<Hardboil> "We all need that, I think."
  325. 2014-02-01T03:38:00<Boris[Ronin]> "Yes, wondering about something that, to my personal opinion, is a failing of the council for the town,"
  326. 2014-02-01T03:38:06<CaptGreenHoof> "There's more than just Tide who needs that, Able."
  327. 2014-02-01T03:38:15<CaptGreenHoof> "We can't choose winners and losers of literacy."
  328. 2014-02-01T03:38:16<Hardboil> "Yes, Boris...?"
  329. 2014-02-01T03:38:35CaptGreenHoof 's ears perk up as he turns his attention to Boris
  330. 2014-02-01T03:38:36<Able_Tome> "Which reminds me about evaluations for current literacy level... the fact that Dente didn't knew Equestrian was jarring as hell...", he says and looks at Boris.
  331. 2014-02-01T03:39:00Alerderna remained relatively silent on the subject as he looked over to Boris..
  332. 2014-02-01T03:39:53<Rain_Drop> "....kay, then we bring books for High Teir Equestiran then have smoeone appointed as school teacher for the teachign of basic to everyone else..."
  333. 2014-02-01T03:39:59Phoenix_Down[mobile] [~androirc@2600:100c:b209:ae3a:e2ce:5582:15d2:3d6b] has quit IRC: Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )
  334. 2014-02-01T03:40:08<Rain_Drop> Rain says as she rests her eyes a moment
  335. 2014-02-01T03:40:24Able_Tome ignores Rain's comment and waits for Boris to speak
  336. 2014-02-01T03:40:32<Boris[Ronin]> "I think with all that's gone on here, it's quite obvious that our current system of laws is a jarringly bad thing. Made on the fly, or just not paid too much heed, I don't know. It was brought up months ago that it was to be revised, and made into something model. But I've not heard any word of those supposed revisions. I don't mean to bring it at what's a sensitive time, as I'm sure it is,(cont)
  337. 2014-02-01T03:41:12<Boris[Ronin]> "I do believe it's something to be brough to the forefront, from something that looks like it were the 1600's or Mesopotamia, to something actually worth working for."
  338. 2014-02-01T03:41:20<Redlight> [that's like teaching mandatory spanish classes. not everyone will learn]
  339. 2014-02-01T03:41:22Cheren looks to Hardboiled. "Did Sleeves leave you anything tobring up, Hard?"
  340. 2014-02-01T03:41:47<Hardboil> "Well, making new laws was 3rd on the agenda today... and no, he didn't, Cheren."
  341. 2014-02-01T03:42:05Cheren 's ear turns down and he sighs
  342. 2014-02-01T03:42:27Able_Tome sighs with a groan, "... there's your answer, Boris..."
  343. 2014-02-01T03:43:31<Boris[Ronin]> "Well then, let's fix that, do something about it, finally make the damned push. This is worse than Hammurabi's code, for Christ's sake."
  344. 2014-02-01T03:43:46<Hardboil> "That's enough, Boris."
  345. 2014-02-01T03:43:50Redlight walks in the town hall to watch the circus unfold since it doesn't happen often enough.
  346. 2014-02-01T03:44:05Hardboil rubs his eyes "Now. Where were we?"
  347. 2014-02-01T03:45:04<Able_Tome> "Alright... should HORS situation be clarified?", he looks at Hardboil, Aler and Hoof.
  348. 2014-02-01T03:45:05Phoenix_Down has seen the irritation of Able, and holds his inquiry of the 'term' of the election, noting that said term has so far at least over twice as long as the last one, waiting to assure the council is finished with their business before acting again
  349. 2014-02-01T03:45:34Boris[Ronin] sits back down "Disgraceful people, you are."
  350. 2014-02-01T03:45:40Hardboil nods at Able I haven't found anything out about it since we spoke."
  351. 2014-02-01T03:46:28<Cheren> "HORS?"
  352. 2014-02-01T03:46:49<Rain_Drop> "zzzzz
  353. 2014-02-01T03:46:56Alerderna cleared his throat slightly. "That's within the next coming week. I have a feeling about these 'journals' that they may have something."
  354. 2014-02-01T03:47:08CaptGreenHoof stands up. "Hey wait a minute..." Green Hoof points a hoof to Boris "I want to talk about HORS as well, but Boris is a concerned citizen and brought up something very important, somethin' that citizens have brought up before. He shouldn't just be shut down and ignored."
  355. 2014-02-01T03:47:16<Cheren> "Well, besides dead horse, which Rain is immitating."
  356. 2014-02-01T03:47:23<Redlight> "Whores?" RL rolls her eyes.
  357. 2014-02-01T03:47:36EyeSpy talks quietly to Boris when he sits back down.
  358. 2014-02-01T03:47:40<Able_Tome> "It isn't shutdowned... we are following procedure's structure."
  359. 2014-02-01T03:47:56<Able_Tome> "The legislative structure was noted and will follow after concerns and plans were presented."
  360. 2014-02-01T03:48:13<Able_Tome> "The law is a mess. This was highlighted perfectly well."
  361. 2014-02-01T03:48:13<Hardboil> "he's not ignored, Hoof. We're addressing that as part of this meeting."
  362. 2014-02-01T03:48:19CaptGreenHoof sits back down.
  363. 2014-02-01T03:48:35Able_Tome glances at Boris and frowns "Do you think you are being silenced or something?"
  364. 2014-02-01T03:48:46<CaptGreenHoof> "This *is* on the agenda..."
  365. 2014-02-01T03:48:47<Able_Tome> "Or are you trying to introduce more mess into discussion?"
  366. 2014-02-01T03:49:13Able_Tome glances at Hoof, "Yes. We will talk about it shortly."
  367. 2014-02-01T03:49:54<Cheren> "Able, he's just concerened that nothing will get done."
  368. 2014-02-01T03:49:59Boris[Ronin] shakes his head "No, I do not believe so. But I feel as if it's being pushed on the back-burner, as it was months ago. I remember the big talk you all had about it, and i had so much hope for the good things you could all achieve, butlook at where we are."
  369. 2014-02-01T03:50:12<Phoenix_Down> "that does seem to be a major concern with this current council Cheren..."
  370. 2014-02-01T03:50:29CaptGreenHoof takes out his jar of pruno and takes a gulp to calm his nerves, then placing the jar back in his saddlebag and resuming his neutral expression.
  371. 2014-02-01T03:50:35<EyeSpy> "I think Boris is right. Why can't we just do it now?"
  372. 2014-02-01T03:50:40<Able_Tome> "Yes, and we are going to discuss about it shortly, good?"
  373. 2014-02-01T03:50:49<Rain_Drop> zzz
  374. 2014-02-01T03:50:51<Able_Tome> "Because our -damn- village is in danger, that's why."
  375. 2014-02-01T03:50:57Hardboil facehoofs
  376. 2014-02-01T03:51:32<Boris[Ronin]> "Now, Eye, let's just wait. They did say they were going ot talk about it next, and we all fully expect them to hold true to that."
  377. 2014-02-01T03:51:36Able_Tome frowns and sinks back into the seat, "Anyways, if anyone wants to present data on HORS, go ahead."
  378. 2014-02-01T03:51:54<Hardboil> "This is wasting time. We're addressing HORS and then we're writing in new laws. Is that acceptable?"
  379. 2014-02-01T03:52:03<Alerderna> [brb being summoned]
  380. 2014-02-01T03:52:05<Able_Tome> "Yes."
  381. 2014-02-01T03:52:05<Hardboil> "I have no new data on this organization."
  382. 2014-02-01T03:52:10Alerderna commences NPC listening modo
  383. 2014-02-01T03:52:41<Able_Tome> "There is not, but other members are not informed about records...", he glances at Hoof, "Anything to present?"
  384. 2014-02-01T03:52:52<Cheren> "This is the first time I've heard of it, I believe. Are the connected to the miners a while back?"
  385. 2014-02-01T03:53:10<CaptGreenHoof> "I headed the operation against the Griffons working for HORS. I'm currently working to procure the ledger detailing the Griffons' transactions, but I do know the gist of it from what I'd read."
  386. 2014-02-01T03:53:42<Hardboil> "And do you have any leads?"
  387. 2014-02-01T03:53:49<Cheren> "The griffons that wre talked about last week, right?"
  388. 2014-02-01T03:53:54<Able_Tome> "Yes."
  389. 2014-02-01T03:54:18<Able_Tome> "The griffons were employed by 'HORS' to commit a hit on werehouses."
  390. 2014-02-01T03:54:37Rain_Drop [[email protected]] is now known as Rain[Sleep]
  391. 2014-02-01T03:55:16<Hardboil> "For the food? ... oh, Rain's fallen asleep."
  392. 2014-02-01T03:55:20Boris[Ronin] thinks Rain should get that narcolepsy checked out
  393. 2014-02-01T03:55:35<CaptGreenHoof> [B-but it was *my* farm being robbed!~]
  394. 2014-02-01T03:55:51<Able_Tome> [do continue~]
  395. 2014-02-01T03:56:23<Cheren> "Stop by the farm later I guess and give her what we talked about."
  396. 2014-02-01T03:57:03<CaptGreenHoof> "Yes. They were supposed to steal our metals stored in the warehouses near the train tracks. The Griffins sold HORS a large quantity of explosives and weapons in exchange for all information needed to steal the metals. The Griffons were stealing food from my farm, that's how I found out."
  397. 2014-02-01T03:58:49Redlight feels like she's watching a soap opera on TV back in earth. She scans the hall for any familiar looking faces and goes to sit next to Boris and Eye.
  398. 2014-02-01T03:58:55<Hardboil> "Explosives... hm. Anything else?"
  399. 2014-02-01T03:59:03<Alerderna> [back]
  400. 2014-02-01T03:59:05<Cheren> "Stealing food in the middle of winter... Please tell me we don't need to develop anti-air weaponry."
  401. 2014-02-01T03:59:35Phoenix_Down 's ears twitch at the thought of explosives being sold, making sure to check the locks on the bombshop later tonight
  402. 2014-02-01T03:59:44Alerderna snaps out of NPC modo. "In regards, I HAVE been patrolling the outer perimiter. Nothing much except the off wolf."
  403. 2014-02-01T04:00:19<Able_Tome> "We also have 5 griffons running in the outskirts and 'possible' report of griffon activity north of town."
  404. 2014-02-01T04:00:39CaptGreenHoof shrugs. "They sold crossbows and some blades, in addition to an alarming amount of explosives."
  405. 2014-02-01T04:00:55<Hardboil> "That sounds bad..."
  406. 2014-02-01T04:01:17<Hardboil> "HORS has explosives available, then that means they might intend to use them on the town."
  407. 2014-02-01T04:02:06<Cheren> "We'll have to talk to Nova then as well. I know we have the blasting range and all. Wonder if she noticed a surplus recently..."
  408. 2014-02-01T04:02:21Alerderna leaned back in his good 'ol council seat and crossed his forelegs, listening in more still.
  409. 2014-02-01T04:03:11CaptGreenHoof sighs and shakes his head. "I don't know... I'm sorry boys, I couldn't really get a whole lot of information, but that's about it. All I can advise is that we ramp up security and all citizens keep an eye out."
  410. 2014-02-01T04:03:43Hardboil nods at Hoof  "I think you're right. That's about as much as we could do for not."
  411. 2014-02-01T04:03:51Phoenix_Down frowns a bit at the thought, looking between the various council members with distaste at the new plate of information in front of him
  412. 2014-02-01T04:04:58<Redlight> [that HORS gm dude better be making a followup quest]
  413. 2014-02-01T04:05:04<Hardboil> "I intend to investigate further, of course. Better we try to suss out their operation as soon as we're able."
  414. 2014-02-01T04:05:08<Able_Tome> "Good... Meaning that the situation will need to be taken care of as fast as possible. The note that was presented months ago that guard captain did nothing about might be a lead."
  415. 2014-02-01T04:05:42<CaptGreenHoof> [I'm the GM who wrote this storyline, but I can't finish it until the river thaws for BoatQuest]
  416. 2014-02-01T04:06:34<Hardboil> "Now, if that's all, I think we have to draw up a few new laws."
  417. 2014-02-01T04:06:36<Able_Tome> "Dente should know details about it... might as well try to look into it.", he frowns and stretches his hooves forth on the table
  418. 2014-02-01T04:06:42<Cheren> "If it's related. For all we know if there is a bandit team, who's to say there isn't more and that they passed the information along, or Cliff escaped alive..."
  419. 2014-02-01T04:07:08<Hardboil> "We'll be on the lookout for all bandit squads."
  420. 2014-02-01T04:07:23Alerderna nodded in agreement to Hard.
  421. 2014-02-01T04:07:33<Cheren> "Glad to hear it."
  422. 2014-02-01T04:08:00<Able_Tome> "Right, now that this is out here... laws."
  423. 2014-02-01T04:08:42<CaptGreenHoof> "I uh... I think it's important that we address Boris' concerns..."
  424. 2014-02-01T04:08:53<Hardboil> "Hmm." he humms, taking out a blank sheet of paper "Here's how this will work. We'll vote on laws by majority, and I need to file them in to the official ledger."
  425. 2014-02-01T04:09:17Able_Tome flips his notebook and at oh so familiar pages and nods to Hoof and glances at Boris, "Any propositions?"
  426. 2014-02-01T04:09:39Hardboil levitates Able's charcoal stick "Mind if I borrow this, Able?" he asks politely
  427. 2014-02-01T04:10:15Able_Tome looks at Hardboil for a moment, nodding to him before he looks back at Boris
  428. 2014-02-01T04:12:50CaptGreenHoof rolls his eyes, smirking, at unicorn racist supremacy
  429. 2014-02-01T04:13:06Nova_Flux [[email protected]] has joined #FourCannon-Townhall
  430. 2014-02-01T04:13:25<Hardboil> "Well. If Boris has no suggestions, let's make our own."
  431. 2014-02-01T04:13:26Boris[Ronin] shrugs slightly "Some ideas, but it's just emulating the relative success and stability of the lands we all originally hail from. Of course, major changes to be made, things thrown right out the window, but solid bases that we can start upon, expand, and make something that works, and is genuinely our own. Really I've not written up too much on it, I had hoped that at least some work was don
  432. 2014-02-01T04:13:31<Boris[Ronin]> [I was the typings]
  433. 2014-02-01T04:13:34<Hardboil> [ignore that]
  434. 2014-02-01T04:13:37<Boris[Ronin]> [And I do not have my notebook with me]
  435. 2014-02-01T04:13:41<Boris[Ronin]> [Fuk]
  436. 2014-02-01T04:13:57<Boris[Ronin]> [/me does not want ot walk downstairs ot get it, he is enjoyint this Checker burger too much]
  437. 2014-02-01T04:14:17<Phoenix_Down> [>checker burger]
  438. 2014-02-01T04:14:18<Boris[Ronin]> [Oh]
  439. 2014-02-01T04:14:25<Cheren> "Oh, that reminds me, some are developing a simple  printing press. I'm looking at getting newspaper ink and paper, so I suggest that the press has the right to protect their sources of information."
  440. 2014-02-01T04:14:28<Boris[Ronin]> "-e on the end of the council"
  441. 2014-02-01T04:14:32<Nova_Flux> [is the /pol/ tier politics over?]
  442. 2014-02-01T04:14:51<Boris[Ronin]> [Mr Bones.png]
  443. 2014-02-01T04:14:57<Cheren> [al dente's thing? yeah. He left. people suggesting new laws right now]
  444. 2014-02-01T04:14:59<Hardboil> "That falls under the Bill of Rights."
  445. 2014-02-01T04:15:09Redlight yawns and gets up to leave. "The stories about aimless bickering weren't make up."
  446. 2014-02-01T04:15:12<Hardboil> "They already have that."
  447. 2014-02-01T04:15:39<Able_Tome> [>literally no bickering]
  448. 2014-02-01T04:15:45<Hardboil> "Thank you, Redlight..." he says sarcastically
  449. 2014-02-01T04:16:24Boris[Ronin] whispers to Eye "Let me borow your pamphlet, Eye."
  450. 2014-02-01T04:16:33Flora [[email protected]] has left #FourCannon-Townhall
  451. 2014-02-01T04:16:42<Hardboil> "Now then. How about laws against blackmail, bribery of a public official, and impersonation of a public official?"
  452. 2014-02-01T04:16:56EyeSpy gives Boris the pamphlet
  453. 2014-02-01T04:17:07<CaptGreenHoof> "Have we had incidents that pertain to these proposed laws?"
  454. 2014-02-01T04:17:08Boris[Ronin] crumples the pamphlet, throwing it at Redlight
  455. 2014-02-01T04:17:11Hardboil writes something down
  456. 2014-02-01T04:17:17Able_Tome nods, "We did."
  457. 2014-02-01T04:17:28<Alerderna> "Instantly I'm all for that. Curiosity tried to bribe me whilst I was working at the Clinic. Same with thise whole 'impersonating a guard' thing."
  458. 2014-02-01T04:17:33Redlight is surprised her comment was heard and gets hit by boris' paper.
  459. 2014-02-01T04:17:44<Hardboil> "I believe Able was concerned with Curiousity's conduct."
  460. 2014-02-01T04:18:21<Hardboil> "So for those three, I vote aye."
  461. 2014-02-01T04:18:44<Able_Tome> "Are we voting for their inclusion or something specific?"
  462. 2014-02-01T04:18:47<Cheren> "So she wasn't a guard then? As much as I hate to say it, Iron's claims that was presented here of mistreatment might be valid..."
  463. 2014-02-01T04:19:11<Hardboil> "They're inclusion into the 'non-execution' laws"
  464. 2014-02-01T04:19:23<Boris[Ronin]> "Perhaps you should also revise those punishments already in place."
  465. 2014-02-01T04:20:22CaptGreenHoof shrugs, holding his hooves up. "I would vote 'aye' for such laws. I do have some concern about Able taking personal offense into his insistence of prosocution and investigation, but I can't deny that valid points are made in the way of corruption."
  466. 2014-02-01T04:20:45<Al_Dente> [[ such conflict of interest, but then again no one cared about when he wanted to use newborns for science :3 ]]
  467. 2014-02-01T04:20:51<Al_Dente> [[ oh wait ]]
  468. 2014-02-01T04:20:53<Hardboil> "Able is free to voice his personal concerns if he sees fit."
  469. 2014-02-01T04:20:57<Able_Tome> [wat]
  470. 2014-02-01T04:21:03<Al_Dente> [[ Shhhh~ ]]
  471. 2014-02-01T04:21:04<Able_Tome> [>wanted to use newborns for science]
  472. 2014-02-01T04:21:06<Hardboil> [wut]
  473. 2014-02-01T04:21:15<Alerderna> [>and fetus'?]
  474. 2014-02-01T04:21:15<Able_Tome> [/me slaps Dente's edgy shit]
  475. 2014-02-01T04:21:20<CaptGreenHoof> "Of course."
  476. 2014-02-01T04:21:24<Al_Dente> [[ /me giggles uncontrolably ]]
  477. 2014-02-01T04:21:46<Hardboil> "To reiterate. Who here votes aye for the includsion of these laws? I vote aye."
  478. 2014-02-01T04:22:00Alerderna nodded. "Aye."
  479. 2014-02-01T04:22:01<Cheren> "So, I vote aye as well."
  480. 2014-02-01T04:22:07<Able_Tome> "Aye."
  481. 2014-02-01T04:22:27<Hardboil> "Hoof?"
  482. 2014-02-01T04:22:48<CaptGreenHoof> "Aye."
  483. 2014-02-01T04:22:56<Able_Tome> "Those are for impersonation of a guard on duty, general bribery, bribing of head officials... and?"
  484. 2014-02-01T04:23:03<Able_Tome> "Ah, blackmail."
  485. 2014-02-01T04:23:27<Hardboil> "Five ayes. Even with some absences that makes a majority." he nods, scribbling something
  486. 2014-02-01T04:23:28<Cheren> "Thought it was impersonation of a public official."
  487. 2014-02-01T04:23:33<Hardboil> "It was."
  488. 2014-02-01T04:23:40<Able_Tome> "Works, aye."
  489. 2014-02-01T04:23:47<Cheren> "Alright, so it covers guards then."
  490. 2014-02-01T04:24:23<Able_Tome> "Perhaps augmenting treason punishment to include deportation?"
  491. 2014-02-01T04:24:49<Cheren> "Or death, depending on the severity."
  492. 2014-02-01T04:25:12<CaptGreenHoof> "Hm? That's a whole 'nother vote."
  493. 2014-02-01T04:25:24<Hardboil> "Yes, we can do that."
  494. 2014-02-01T04:25:27<Able_Tome> "I'd say substitute capital punishmkent with deportation if Equestrians are willing to take them for rehabilitation."
  495. 2014-02-01T04:25:48<Able_Tome> "If they refuse, we take the matter into our own hooves."
  496. 2014-02-01T04:25:49<Hardboil> "Let's see... deportation only for traitors and murderers as an alternative to death?"
  497. 2014-02-01T04:25:56CaptGreenHoof nods and scratches his neck with a hoof. "I could agree to that..."
  498. 2014-02-01T04:26:04<Alerderna> [brb]
  499. 2014-02-01T04:26:22<Hardboil> [w8 m8 we need your vote!~]
  500. 2014-02-01T04:26:26Dota_Tide [[email protected]] is now known as High_Tide
  501. 2014-02-01T04:26:34<Able_Tome> "Aye. Or rather present the option to criminal in such cases."
  502. 2014-02-01T04:26:52<Able_Tome> "Either be deported or go through capital punishment in severe cases."
  503. 2014-02-01T04:27:29<EyeSpy> "Are there any laws against ex post facto so no one gets unfairly punished after you pass these?"
  504. 2014-02-01T04:27:29<Able_Tome> "Though this would mean that someone would have to act as an executioner, so I'm very partial on this."
  505. 2014-02-01T04:27:32<Alerderna> [back]
  506. 2014-02-01T04:27:53Cheren sighs... "Maybe. We'll have to check with the Embassy to make sure another Sargeing doesn't happen."
  507. 2014-02-01T04:27:55<Hardboil> "As could I... we should not make it an option for lesser crimes, or the embassy might get testy."
  508. 2014-02-01T04:28:05<Alerderna> "I have some... Reservations. I value life a bit too much, so I'd say aye on deportation, but nay on the death penalty."
  509. 2014-02-01T04:28:12<CaptGreenHoof> "I'm personally not a fan of capital punishment, but..." the drunken pilot shrugs, "those who live by the sword, die by the sword..."
  510. 2014-02-01T04:28:40<Hardboil> "Perhaps we could put the punishment for rape and assault as possible deportation?"
  511. 2014-02-01T04:28:48Able_Tome glances at Aler, "It's... a personal choice, but yes, I'm partial mainly due to 'executor' part."
  512. 2014-02-01T04:29:00EyeSpy speaks louder. "Excuse me? Can anyone answer my question?"
  513. 2014-02-01T04:29:05<Hardboil> "Non-violent crimes of course are ones we need to see through all our own."
  514. 2014-02-01T04:29:17Able_Tome blinks and looks at Eye, barely hearing her, "Yes?"
  515. 2014-02-01T04:29:25<Hardboil> "Oh, yes."
  516. 2014-02-01T04:29:26<Able_Tome> [Fluttershy mode~]
  517. 2014-02-01T04:29:30<CaptGreenHoof> "You mean a grandfather clause, EyeSpy?"
  518. 2014-02-01T04:29:49<Hardboil> "No one will be punished for committing these crimes before they were written. After? They will be punished."
  519. 2014-02-01T04:30:14<EyeSpy> "Thank you Hard, that's what I was asking."
  520. 2014-02-01T04:30:21CaptGreenHoof nods, remembering the various gun laws back home. "I don't see how it would be just to punish someone who did something that wasn't a crime when it occured..."
  521. 2014-02-01T04:30:35<EyeSpy> "I was just making sure..."
  522. 2014-02-01T04:30:42Hardboil nods to Hoof
  523. 2014-02-01T04:30:48EyeSpy 's voice trails off.
  524. 2014-02-01T04:31:14<Phoenix_Down> [soooo you can' punish Cury with em, right Eye?~]
  525. 2014-02-01T04:31:42<Able_Tome> [Yes, but we can punish someone for treason by death~]
  526. 2014-02-01T04:32:05<Hardboil> [recidivism~]
  527. 2014-02-01T04:32:06<Phoenix_Down> [now now Able, dull the edge, work camps are much more sensible!]
  528. 2014-02-01T04:32:07<Alerderna> [/me is against death penalty]
  529. 2014-02-01T04:32:14<Dreamcatcher> [*cough*tyramny*cough*]
  530. 2014-02-01T04:32:19<Able_Tome> [... good point, Down!]
  531. 2014-02-01T04:32:20<CaptGreenHoof> [Comrade Stalin!~]
  532. 2014-02-01T04:32:29<CaptGreenHoof> [Nyah!~ :3]
  533. 2014-02-01T04:32:35Hardboil clears his throat to rid the chat of OOC
  534. 2014-02-01T04:33:12<Hardboil> "So."
  535. 2014-02-01T04:33:46<CaptGreenHoof> "I don't think that anyone should be convicted of a crime for which a law hadn't been legislated and passed yet."
  536. 2014-02-01T04:34:39<Alerderna> "Kiiiind of gotta agree with Hoof. I, hold to 'innocent, until proven guilty'. Don't know about the rest of you."
  537. 2014-02-01T04:35:04<Hardboil> "We established that."
  538. 2014-02-01T04:35:16<Hardboil> "Now then. What other laws do you all recommend?"
  539. 2014-02-01T04:35:37<Able_Tome> "Have we voted on this? Capital punishment augmented to deportation?"
  540. 2014-02-01T04:35:42<Boris[Ronin]> [ http://i.imgur.com/CL5sTBO.png ]
  541. 2014-02-01T04:36:46<Able_Tome> "I still think that an option to choose should be given for... you know... option's an option, but that's my opinion."
  542. 2014-02-01T04:36:50<Alerderna> "I voted deportation. I value life too much to agree with capitol punishment."
  543. 2014-02-01T04:36:51<Hardboil> "Ah, right. Voting on deportation being a possible alternative to execution for the crimes of murder and treason, upon which the offender shall lose their citizenship and be transferred to Equestrian custody. I vote aye."
  544. 2014-02-01T04:37:40<CaptGreenHoof> "I vote aye."
  545. 2014-02-01T04:37:48<Cheren> "Aye."
  546. 2014-02-01T04:38:21<Hardboil> "Aler? Hoof?"
  547. 2014-02-01T04:38:24Able_Tome coughs, "Aye. Deportation becomes the primary option for dealing with crimes of violent crimes and treason. If embassy rejects the submission, we apply execution laws."
  548. 2014-02-01T04:38:29<Hardboil> "I mean Able"
  549. 2014-02-01T04:38:38Hardboil coughs
  550. 2014-02-01T04:39:10<Hardboil> "Good, good. Alerderna is the only one who still hasn't voted."
  551. 2014-02-01T04:39:11<Alerderna> [/me coted]
  552. 2014-02-01T04:39:17<Alerderna> [ "I voted deportation. I value life too much to agree with capitol punishment." ]
  553. 2014-02-01T04:39:26<Able_Tome> [^]
  554. 2014-02-01T04:39:28<Hardboil> [after I officially declared it in concise terms...?]
  555. 2014-02-01T04:39:36<Hardboil> [better keep things orderly]
  556. 2014-02-01T04:39:46Phoenix_Down furrows his brow a little, leaning back in his seat as he watches the talk continue
  557. 2014-02-01T04:39:55<Alerderna> "Aye."
  558. 2014-02-01T04:40:23<Hardboil> "Excellent. It's going to be included as well." he says, TK scribbling on the paper
  559. 2014-02-01T04:40:57<Hardboil> "What else? how about destruction of property laws?"
  560. 2014-02-01T04:41:03Phoenix_Down wonders for a tick why they think the Embassy would accept a prisoner, when all the cannonites were themselves practically deported from Equestria proper
  561. 2014-02-01T04:41:04Able_Tome rubs his cheek, "Lets immediately augment this section... If deportation is rejected and the crime is violent, what are alternative options to capital punishment?"
  562. 2014-02-01T04:41:28<Hardboil> "We can't imprison for life, Able Tome. We don't have the resources."
  563. 2014-02-01T04:41:31<Alerderna> "Sentance to work and house arrest, I suppose?"
  564. 2014-02-01T04:41:45<Able_Tome> "House arrest was not effective with Sarge."
  565. 2014-02-01T04:41:56<Cheren> "Hard labor, and our previous house arrest attempt... thank you, Able."
  566. 2014-02-01T04:42:00<Alerderna> "That was when Dusk Prancer was in charge."
  567. 2014-02-01T04:42:03Phoenix_Down clears his throat "house arrest is a bit lenient isn't it... captain?"
  568. 2014-02-01T04:42:04Hardboil shakes his head at Aler "You're talking about murderers. Traitors. Those kinds of people should not be in public. At all."
  569. 2014-02-01T04:42:16<Alerderna> "Dusk Prancer released him from custody and placed him back on the Roster."
  570. 2014-02-01T04:42:28<Hardboil> "Sarge didn't murder anyone."
  571. 2014-02-01T04:42:37<Alerderna> "This was..." he rubbed his chin. "...During that whole town invasion thing? I think?"
  572. 2014-02-01T04:42:44<Hardboil> "He attempted to, then was shortly killed."
  573. 2014-02-01T04:43:23<Cheren> "Yes, and he was told to return to his home after it was over. The guards enforcing the house arrest slacked off."
  574. 2014-02-01T04:43:29Alerderna leaned back forward, resting his crossed forelegs on the table. "Then deportation?"
  575. 2014-02-01T04:43:50<Hardboil> "And he never actually committed murder. He committed rape, but that's not a death sentence."
  576. 2014-02-01T04:44:07<Cheren> "Anyway, let's move on. Alternatives to death penalty..."
  577. 2014-02-01T04:44:34<Cheren> "Only thing I see beneficial to the town is hard labor in the mines."
  578. 2014-02-01T04:44:53Alerderna looked up for a second, then back to the ponies around the table. "I know it sounds rediculous proposing this. But, remember in Skyrim where there was all the Forsworn sentenced to life in the mines?"
  579. 2014-02-01T04:45:06<Hardboil> "We have deportation down... what else could there be? My job is to enact public safety. If a murderer is in the mines, what's to say they won't simply kill again?"
  580. 2014-02-01T04:45:35<CaptGreenHoof> "I once read the autobiography of a man named Mikhail Kalashnikov." Green Hoof casts a glance at Able. "He said that only murderers should be subject to the death penalty....
  581. 2014-02-01T04:45:43<CaptGreenHoof> "I must agree with this sentiment."
  582. 2014-02-01T04:45:54<Cheren> "They were imprisoned there because they built the town and the ruling class didn't pay. Different set of starting conditions, Aler."
  583. 2014-02-01T04:46:13Able_Tome sighs at Hoof's words
  584. 2014-02-01T04:46:25<Alerderna> "Still though... If the crime is serious enough, life at the mines. Nothing else."
  585. 2014-02-01T04:46:34<Hardboil> "I'm skeptical of making videogame reerences when we're talking about real peoples' lives here..."
  586. 2014-02-01T04:46:45<Able_Tome> "Work camps?"
  587. 2014-02-01T04:46:55<CaptGreenHoof> "Who's making video game references?'
  588. 2014-02-01T04:46:57<Able_Tome> "Secluded community? Who's going to oversee them?"
  589. 2014-02-01T04:47:10<Hardboil> "Aler, how do you think that would actually work? I want you to tell me how you would keep a murderer from killing someone in the mines."
  590. 2014-02-01T04:47:49<Cheren> "More guards. It gets frustrating since there would have to be a lot of infrastructre set up before we even get the first prisoner down there to be effective."
  591. 2014-02-01T04:48:06Phoenix_Down shifts in his seat again, simply watching and listening to the council continue to babble on about how they refuse to face the humanity of ending someone else's
  592. 2014-02-01T04:48:19<Alerderna> "From murdering someone in the mines? Think of scaffolds, where the Guards can monitor /everything/ that goes on."
  593. 2014-02-01T04:48:24<Able_Tome> "Well.... uh...", he coughs, "If the capital punishment is in session, I can propose a more, um... humane one, if you can call it that way."
  594. 2014-02-01T04:48:42<Hardboil> "We have deportation as an alternative."
  595. 2014-02-01T04:48:51<Hardboil> "That's about as humane as it can possibly be."
  596. 2014-02-01T04:49:00<CaptGreenHoof> "Look... a murderer deserves to be murdered. Someone who commits a serious crime without murder should be dealt with accordingly."
  597. 2014-02-01T04:49:19<Hardboil> "It's not about retribution, Hoof. It's about public safety."
  598. 2014-02-01T04:49:24<Able_Tome> "Yes, but if that's not an option... -and- we need to commit the punishment, I may propose the more or less humane option."
  599. 2014-02-01T04:49:31Alerderna shook his head at Hoof's words. "And I'm against it. The Hippocratic Oath still means something to me, after all."
  600. 2014-02-01T04:49:49<Hardboil> "Please propose one then, Able Tome."
  601. 2014-02-01T04:49:50CaptGreenHoof shrugs, sighing and going silent
  602. 2014-02-01T04:49:59<Phoenix_Down> "and pulic safety would be to /remove/ the danger wouldn't it... sorry to interrupt but this continuation at refusing to deal with an issue like this is irritating..."
  603. 2014-02-01T04:50:28<EyeSpy> "If you implement the death penalty, and someone commits a crime, they have no reason to not murder more because if they're caught they lose everything anyway"
  604. 2014-02-01T04:50:31Alerderna cleared his throat slightly. "I think it'd be best to ask the antendees here for their opinion, yes?"
  605. 2014-02-01T04:51:10<Hardboil> "Seems they've voiced it already, but sure."
  606. 2014-02-01T04:52:02<Cheren> "The victim's family or appointed next of kin? Sure."
  607. 2014-02-01T04:52:41<Alerderna> "I don't mean to sound like the bad guy... But of course, they'd be heavily biased. We've got to at least find a middle ground here."
  608. 2014-02-01T04:53:22Hardboil sighs "Please propose this 'middle ground' then."
  609. 2014-02-01T04:53:54<Alerderna> "This is what we've got to find. That's what discussing things are for, isn't it?"
  610. 2014-02-01T04:54:18<EyeSpy> "Why can't we just do jail time like a normal civilization?"
  611. 2014-02-01T04:54:32<Phoenix_Down> "oh yes, a middleground, maybe we can /kind of/ put him down like he /sort of/ killed all those people?"
  612. 2014-02-01T04:54:57<Hardboil> "You want to make life in prison a law?"
  613. 2014-02-01T04:55:08Alerderna looked over to Eye. "Resources. Whilst killing people is the most cost effective, I still hold dear to the Hippocratic Oath." he looked over to Phoe. "And what of you?"
  614. 2014-02-01T04:55:13Able_Tome sighs, "We don't have resources for that... it's a dead weight."
  615. 2014-02-01T04:55:17<Hardboil> "We'lll need an expansion of the barracks, then."
  616. 2014-02-01T04:55:43<Hardboil> "A -large- expansion of the barracks."
  617. 2014-02-01T04:55:54<Cheren> "Which we can't do until spring at the earliest, plus more guards will be needed to maintain the prison 24/7."
  618. 2014-02-01T04:56:15<Alerderna> [brb need food]
  619. 2014-02-01T04:56:35<Hardboil> "Up until now, we've dealt with murderers to the fullest extent of the law. It's simply implausible."
  620. 2014-02-01T04:56:48<Cheren> "And make it not out of wood... and magical restraints for unicorns so they don't burn it down... and clipping of wings for pegasus so they don't fly away... Do we really want to head down that road?"
  621. 2014-02-01T04:57:19<Phoenix_Down> "I really want to hear Able's suggestion on this, with the humane option"
  622. 2014-02-01T04:57:30<Hardboil> "Magical restraits that we do not have, We'd have to saw their horns off..." he shivers as he thinks about it
  623. 2014-02-01T04:57:31<EyeSpy> "It's a better alternative than solving killing with more violence."
  624. 2014-02-01T04:58:38Able_Tome sighs, 'Well... for a capital punishment I can always supply the poison for it... it will put the pony in question into sleep first, paralyzing the body and then cause an onset ending with cardiac arrest..."
  625. 2014-02-01T04:58:45<Redlight> [the /pol/ levels here are suffocating]
  626. 2014-02-01T04:59:04<Hardboil> "Okay, I vote we suspend discussion with regards to the reprocussions to murder for until winter is over, and construction is viable."
  627. 2014-02-01T04:59:05<Able_Tome> "If we -really- need to commit such a punishment..."
  628. 2014-02-01T04:59:34<Cheren> "I second the motion. Our two options right now are fine."
  629. 2014-02-01T04:59:35<Phoenix_Down> "Look, I'm not happy at the thought of just ending someone's life either, but really there isn't another option that seems suitable"
  630. 2014-02-01T05:00:32<Hardboil> "I agree, Phoenix. But until we can provide a suitable alternative, which we cannot with our current situation, we need to stick with what we have for now."
  631. 2014-02-01T05:01:07<Alerderna> [back]
  632. 2014-02-01T05:01:11Dreamcatcher trots into town hall, looking straight at the council members with evil eyes as she takes a seat
  633. 2014-02-01T05:01:42<Hardboil> "Able Tome, Alerderna, Hoof, should we suspend discussing this until Spring when we can being new construction?"
  634. 2014-02-01T05:01:57Alerderna nodded. "Aye."
  635. 2014-02-01T05:01:59Phoenix_Down takes his seat, his eyes not removed from the general area holding the council as he waits quietly for this discussion to end
  636. 2014-02-01T05:02:07Cheren wonders why Dream looks so angry. She was so happy yesterday.
  637. 2014-02-01T05:02:39<Liven> [She's pregnant, roll to see if her fury makes you shit yourself]
  638. 2014-02-01T05:02:57<Hardboil> [she's a cute little pony tho~]
  639. 2014-02-01T05:03:10<Able_Tome> "Well, we have two option so far... we suspend for now leaving old law in place. If the law needs to be put into action you know the 'humane' measure...", he pronounces last words with a note of disgust
  640. 2014-02-01T05:03:26<Dreamcatcher> [Until you piss her off~]
  641. 2014-02-01T05:03:33<CaptGreenHoof>  !roll d100 to resist shitting myself
  642. 2014-02-01T05:03:33<GameServ> 95 == 95
  643. 2014-02-01T05:03:35<Alerderna> [Russian pls]
  644. 2014-02-01T05:03:37<Able_Tome> "So aye..."
  645. 2014-02-01T05:03:45CaptGreenHoof resists shitting himself
  646. 2014-02-01T05:03:47Starfire_Asleep [[email protected]] is now known as Starfire
  647. 2014-02-01T05:03:50<Dreamcatcher> [DC 99]
  648. 2014-02-01T05:03:50<Hardboil> "Greenhoof, what say you?"
  649. 2014-02-01T05:04:01<Hardboil> [That GM pls]
  650. 2014-02-01T05:04:22<CaptGreenHoof> "Please clarify for the record what it is we are voting on."
  651. 2014-02-01T05:04:42<Able_Tome> [pfft]
  652. 2014-02-01T05:05:11<Hardboil> "Technically nothing. We're just agreeing to not discuss this until we can actually follow through with any alternatives to the death penalty or deportation."
  653. 2014-02-01T05:05:31<Hardboil> "Because if we make a law now without any means to carry it out, it's worthless."
  654. 2014-02-01T05:05:33Dreamcatcher sits back in her seat, looking for a reason for the council to piss her off~<3
  655. 2014-02-01T05:05:38CaptGreenHoof nods. "I vote Aye."
  656. 2014-02-01T05:06:02<Hardboil> "Good. So, unless there are any other laws we need to propose..."
  657. 2014-02-01T05:06:17Able_Tome sighs and glances into the hall, "Suggestions?"
  658. 2014-02-01T05:06:34<Hardboil> "Oh."
  659. 2014-02-01T05:06:43<Hardboil> "Destruction of property."
  660. 2014-02-01T05:07:00<Able_Tome> "Hm... stealing too..."
  661. 2014-02-01T05:07:02<Hardboil> "We have a law against theft, but not against destroying or vandalizing things."
  662. 2014-02-01T05:07:07<Able_Tome> "Or theft, rather."
  663. 2014-02-01T05:07:13Phoenix_Down stands back up, about to speak before Hardboil does, sitting back down and waiting patiently
  664. 2014-02-01T05:07:14<Able_Tome> "We do, eh?"
  665. 2014-02-01T05:07:32<Hardboil> "Yep."
  666. 2014-02-01T05:07:42Able_Tome rubs his chin, "Ah yes... the one with confi- oh... which reminds me."
  667. 2014-02-01T05:07:42<Phoenix_Down> -
  668. 2014-02-01T05:08:00<Able_Tome> "But yes, I'll speak last."
  669. 2014-02-01T05:08:04CaptGreenHoof points to Pheonix. "Let's listen to Pheonix."
  670. 2014-02-01T05:08:12FeatherDuster heads to the townhall a bit after Dreamcatcher and peeks his head in quietly.
  671. 2014-02-01T05:08:17<Hardboil> "Sure. What is it, Phoenix Down?"
  672. 2014-02-01T05:08:23Phoenix_Down blinks "oh no no, my business can wait until you are done"
  673. 2014-02-01T05:08:36<Cheren> "Yeah. Though I'm not sure what the sentence was with Curio- oh," He shakes his head. "That's right, Al gave her a warning and told her not to do it again."
  674. 2014-02-01T05:09:04Able_Tome glances at Cheren, "Hmm...? What do you mean?"
  675. 2014-02-01T05:09:44FeatherDuster sees that business stuff is going on and slowly backs out
  676. 2014-02-01T05:09:57<Cheren> "Back when she first arrived here. She impersonated inn staff and took money from Flora. Think it was the same day or the day after she tried to board the train."
  677. 2014-02-01T05:10:06<Cheren> [save me feather!]
  678. 2014-02-01T05:10:35Able_Tome blinks, "Board the train? Um... who?"
  679. 2014-02-01T05:10:43<FeatherDuster> [I'll visit your grave~]
  680. 2014-02-01T05:11:02Rain[Sleep] [[email protected]] has quit IRC: Ping timeout: 380 seconds
  681. 2014-02-01T05:11:33<Cheren> "Curiosity tried to get on the train a while back when Miss Jetstream did. She tried to bribe the conductor to let her on board, too."
  682. 2014-02-01T05:12:09<Cheren> "And yes, both cases were presented to Al Dente before you ask."
  683. 2014-02-01T05:12:53<Hardboil> "She's free to go, but she's not going to be a guard any longer after this."
  684. 2014-02-01T05:12:53Able_Tome 's eye twitches... "How the fuck... long... ago...?", he mutters
  685. 2014-02-01T05:13:27<Cheren> "About when Curiosity first arrived."
  686. 2014-02-01T05:13:28<Hardboil> "We just now drew up laws against everything she's done. So at least she's going to have consequences this time if she ever does it again."
  687. 2014-02-01T05:13:36<EyeSpy> "Can we talk about the protections the law provides too now?"
  688. 2014-02-01T05:14:14<Hardboil> "Curiousity got away with some things, and that's something we're going to have to accept."
  689. 2014-02-01T05:14:39<Al_Dente> [[ she also caught the murder iron bark with golden :v ]]
  690. 2014-02-01T05:14:58<Hardboil> [okay. so?]
  691. 2014-02-01T05:15:31<Able_Tome> [>writing away crimes because >helped | pls]
  692. 2014-02-01T05:15:32<Phoenix_Down> [hey, she did some really stupid and lawless stuff that could have gotten us in deep shit... oh but it wasn't a law yet :3]
  693. 2014-02-01T05:15:46<EyeSpy> "Is there anything about 'innocent until proven guilty' or 'beyond a resonable doubt
  694. 2014-02-01T05:15:49<EyeSpy> '"
  695. 2014-02-01T05:15:54<Nova_Flux> [tl;dr?]
  696. 2014-02-01T05:15:54<Able_Tome> [theft was]
  697. 2014-02-01T05:15:59<Hardboil> "It's in the Bill of Rights, Eyespy."
  698. 2014-02-01T05:16:08Cheren looks at Alerderna. "Can I get a clarification. Is Curiosity still working with the guard?"
  699. 2014-02-01T05:16:11<Hardboil> "I encourage you to be aware of your rights."
  700. 2014-02-01T05:16:25Starfire [[email protected]] is now known as Starfire_Away
  701. 2014-02-01T05:16:36Alerderna shakes his head at Cheren. "eeeeenope. Black listed from the Guard as of yesterday."
  702. 2014-02-01T05:16:37Able_Tome mutters, "I suggest prohibiting her from working in any public institution."
  703. 2014-02-01T05:16:46<Phoenix_Down> "seems like a bit of an oversite eh? what to say I can't just go look in the bill of rights, pick out a law I don't find and just go break it to my heart's content? is there a law against arson? perhaps I'll fancy a burned down inn"
  704. 2014-02-01T05:16:47<EyeSpy> [/me doesn't know where the bill of rights is]
  705. 2014-02-01T05:16:48<Able_Tome> "Besides logging and mining."
  706. 2014-02-01T05:16:59<Cheren> "Do you have a copy of the rights for Eyespy, Hardboil? Other than the ones we did tonight?" He turns to Aler. "Alright, thanks."
  707. 2014-02-01T05:17:18<Hardboil> [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QcRzevDMjKl2K4i24_Hl51urh_yrMWFknoBNDw9cdcE/edit]
  708. 2014-02-01T05:18:33Hardboil writes some things down "As you can see, they're up-to-date" he says, TKing them to EyeSpy
  709. 2014-02-01T05:18:56EyeSpy graps the paper and reads.
  710. 2014-02-01T05:19:39<Hardboil> "Now. Destruction of Property. Does everyone agree that it should be illegal to significantly and intentionally cause the destruction of private or public property without the consent of the council?"
  711. 2014-02-01T05:19:54<Hardboil> "Or the private owner, of course."
  712. 2014-02-01T05:20:08<Able_Tome> "Aye."
  713. 2014-02-01T05:20:15<Hardboil> "I vote aye."
  714. 2014-02-01T05:20:49<Cheren> "Aye." He makes a mental note to tell Feather later.
  715. 2014-02-01T05:21:20<CaptGreenHoof> "Aye"
  716. 2014-02-01T05:21:32<Able_Tome> [kek, Cher]
  717. 2014-02-01T05:21:36Al_Dente [[email protected]] is now known as Al_night
  718. 2014-02-01T05:21:43<Hardboil> "Alerderna?"
  719. 2014-02-01T05:21:51<Alerderna> [argh]
  720. 2014-02-01T05:22:04<Alerderna> [I got carried away there, what's the vote on?]
  721. 2014-02-01T05:22:17<Phoenix_Down> [legalising prostitution]
  722. 2014-02-01T05:22:33<Hardboil> [making destruction of property illegal]
  723. 2014-02-01T05:22:41Alerderna nodded. "I vote aye."
  724. 2014-02-01T05:22:41<Able_Tome> [Nix, pls]
  725. 2014-02-01T05:22:44<Cheren> [it's a 2 for 1 bill]
  726. 2014-02-01T05:22:48<Hardboil> "Great."
  727. 2014-02-01T05:23:10<Phoenix_Down> [wait prostitution is already legal]
  728. 2014-02-01T05:23:34<Hardboil> [it is]
  729. 2014-02-01T05:23:54<CaptGreenHoof> [ugh... I'm falling asleep, I gotta go to bed]
  730. 2014-02-01T05:24:02<Able_Tome> "There's another proposition which concerns a thing that happened months ago."
  731. 2014-02-01T05:24:05<Cheren> [night hoof]
  732. 2014-02-01T05:24:11<Cheren> "Oh?"
  733. 2014-02-01T05:24:15<Phoenix_Down> [night Hewf]
  734. 2014-02-01T05:24:15<Alerderna> [Cheers Hoof]
  735. 2014-02-01T05:24:32<Able_Tome> "Dangerous artifact containment and usage of them in public places."
  736. 2014-02-01T05:25:06<CaptGreenHoof> [night, boys. Sorry I'm bailing]
  737. 2014-02-01T05:25:09Alerderna feld a couple gears click. "...Phoe's Changeling horn incident?"
  738. 2014-02-01T05:25:29CaptGreenHoof [[email protected]] has quit IRC: Quit: Web client closed
  739. 2014-02-01T05:25:34<Able_Tome> "Pretty much. We've had a precedent when an artifact that was retrieved from an expedition was deemed dangerous for public handling after an accident."
  740. 2014-02-01T05:26:19<Hardboil> "Due to the chaotic nature of magic, I don't think a law against this can be made... unless you're trying to fobid the ownership of magic artifacts."
  741. 2014-02-01T05:26:20<Able_Tome> "Currently it is contained within the storage facility with it's bearer authorized to use it within experimentation zone's confines."
  742. 2014-02-01T05:26:47Able_Tome raises his brow, "Forbidding? Not per se, no."
  743. 2014-02-01T05:27:08<Able_Tome> "There was actually a plan to create a distribution system for artifacts."
  744. 2014-02-01T05:27:34<Hardboil> "Magic items are already under your jurisdiction. If it's dangerous to the public, it falls to you to make them viable for public use."
  745. 2014-02-01T05:27:41<Able_Tome> "Those that are safe to use and bring benefit to the community as a whole. Every item would be redeemable before expedition's onset."
  746. 2014-02-01T05:28:13<Hardboil> "Otherwise, they're donated to the research department to figure out how they work. We otherwise can't remove them from private ownership."
  747. 2014-02-01T05:28:31<Hardboil> "Temporary donation to research is also a possibility."
  748. 2014-02-01T05:28:47GreenSleeves [[email protected]] is now known as GreenSleevesSLEEEEEEP
  749. 2014-02-01T05:29:13Dreamcatcher gets up and trots out again, figuring she has better things to do.
  750. 2014-02-01T05:29:49Alerderna cleared his throat slightly. "The Clinic currently falls under Able's juridstiction too, from my understanding?"
  751. 2014-02-01T05:29:52<Able_Tome> "Perhaps public accounting for magical items that would attach the artifact behind someone's name? If an artifact is retrieved and is contained as a private property, the person would be obliged to report it's presence."
  752. 2014-02-01T05:30:31<Able_Tome> "This will reduce possibilities for dangerous use and if a case of dangerous abuse happens would allow Guards to track and know who might have used one."
  753. 2014-02-01T05:30:46<Hardboil> "The random nature of magic means that we can't draft any effective laws against them."
  754. 2014-02-01T05:31:08<Hardboil> "I believe what we've been doing so far has been effective, don't you?"
  755. 2014-02-01T05:31:20<Able_Tome> "We can draw a law for artifacts in general. And we have examples.", he said and looks at Aler, "Aye."
  756. 2014-02-01T05:31:41Alerderna nodded and let them continue.
  757. 2014-02-01T05:32:35<Hardboil> "Rain and Hoof have gone to bed. I don't know if we can write any laws as of current regardless."
  758. 2014-02-01T05:33:28Able_Tome switches his attention to Hardboil, "What I propose, perhaps for future and going to draw a bill, is to keep track of items that shows signs of magical properties in accordance what we currently possess. And that's true."
  759. 2014-02-01T05:33:41<Able_Tome> "We lack the majority at the moment."
  760. 2014-02-01T05:33:52<Hardboil> "Keep track? You might need to specify exactly how."
  761. 2014-02-01T05:34:03<Hardboil> "That's too vague for a town law."
  762. 2014-02-01T05:34:15<Able_Tome> "Records of items behind someone's name."
  763. 2014-02-01T05:34:38<Hardboil> "Perhaps include it in your own policies with how you run the science department?"
  764. 2014-02-01T05:35:09<Able_Tome> "Why yes, but I can't legally collect information without a law enforcing this."
  765. 2014-02-01T05:35:45<Able_Tome> "Our department can't be present and conduct audits everywhere."
  766. 2014-02-01T05:35:52<Hardboil> "You can collect information all you want. How else would people adventure?"
  767. 2014-02-01T05:36:18<Hardboil> "If it becomes a public safety concern, you can alert the guard, and we'll acquire what is needed."
  768. 2014-02-01T05:37:43<Able_Tome> "The premise is that citizens themselves would be required to report to Guard on artifacts that show 'random qualities' as you've said that can pose health concerns. And they do can if you follow data on magical potions and the way they work."
  769. 2014-02-01T05:38:36<Able_Tome> "The horn proved to be dangerous, but was not classified or entered the register before it exploded and hurt two citizens in a crowd of bystanders."
  770. 2014-02-01T05:38:52Boris[Ronin] sighs, quietly standing up and walking out of the hall, not waiting for Eye as he leaves
  771. 2014-02-01T05:38:57<Able_Tome> "See it similar to gun licensing."
  772. 2014-02-01T05:39:04<Hardboil> "We know next to nothing about magic in the first place, but I would think a changeling's horn would be somewhat obviously hazardous material..."
  773. 2014-02-01T05:39:22<Alerderna> [I'll probably have to ded soon too, wake up call at 7 AM ;o;]
  774. 2014-02-01T05:39:22<Hardboil> "And besides I don't agree in principle with gun licensing."
  775. 2014-02-01T05:39:34Phoenix_Down casts a quick glance at Boris before looking back to the council meeting with a sigh
  776. 2014-02-01T05:39:35<Hardboil> [aw, night Aler!]
  777. 2014-02-01T05:39:46<Cheren> "It's about not knowing it's around. Something like that should be reported in the expedition report."
  778. 2014-02-01T05:39:52<Cheren> [night!]
  779. 2014-02-01T05:40:19<Hardboil> "All magic items found need to be reported...? Okay, that sounds a little better."
  780. 2014-02-01T05:40:19Cheren sees that Hoof is passed out, too. "I think we should call it a night."
  781. 2014-02-01T05:40:49<Hardboil> "As long as we're not making a list of all ponies who have acquired their own magic items legitimately."
  782. 2014-02-01T05:40:58Able_Tome rubs his temples, "That's exactly what was proposed, yes... all magic possessing items must be reported into register."
  783. 2014-02-01T05:41:01Alerderna stands up slowly. "Sorry gent, but we've kind of stagnated a bit here. And I've gotta get back to my patrols." he looked around the table, nodding once more before trotting off of the stage and out the door, where his two loyal Guards followed along.
  784. 2014-02-01T05:41:07EyeSpy trots after Boris
  785. 2014-02-01T05:41:33<Hardboil> "Okay, that's all for tonight, I guess. That was productive, I think."
  786. 2014-02-01T05:41:35<Able_Tome> "Aye, take care, Aler..."
  787. 2014-02-01T05:41:53<Able_Tome> "I'd suggest having another meeting tomorrow... this time regarding resource planning."
  788. 2014-02-01T05:42:16<Able_Tome> "Some of the infrastructure suggestions need to be approved as soon as possible."
  789. 2014-02-01T05:42:36<Able_Tome> "Because they'll require degree of investments."
  790. 2014-02-01T05:42:50<Hardboil> "Tomorrow? Hmm... maybe. Might not be available, but I'll get back to you on that."
  791. 2014-02-01T05:43:34<Cheren> "Does those still here have anything to discuss before we go?"
  792. 2014-02-01T05:44:04Hardboil shakes his head
  793. 2014-02-01T05:44:04Phoenix_Down sighs "sorry to interrupt whats left of this meeting... just a question really, it can be taken by anyone but I discussed it with Hoof earlier today, pertaining to the erm... term of your current election that Able mentioned earlier... how it seems to have been at least twice as long as the previous council's?"
  794. 2014-02-01T05:44:17Alerderna [Alerderna@CPE00222d90fb5e-CM00222d90fb5a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit IRC:
  795. 2014-02-01T05:44:52<Hardboil> "Ah, elections."
  796. 2014-02-01T05:44:54Able_Tome closes the notebook and sighs, rubbing his forehead
  797. 2014-02-01T05:45:51<Hardboil> "Yes, we'll see to new elections. To be honest though I don't know who instigates them in the first place or how long it should be between each one..."
  798. 2014-02-01T05:46:08<Able_Tome> "There are infrastructure plans that need completion, two to three investigations, a renewed bill... ugh... these bloody weeks."
  799. 2014-02-01T05:46:25<Cheren> "That should be something discussed when all the council members are together, and awake."
  800. 2014-02-01T05:46:57<Hardboil> "Mhm. But we need to see to it that it happens."
  801. 2014-02-01T05:47:24Phoenix_Down leans back "just seems long overdue... and especially with two of the council members currently seated having been appointed rather than elected... no offence to Hardboil or Alerderna"
  802. 2014-02-01T05:47:53<Hardboil> "You're right. I agree. But for now, I'm tired..."
  803. 2014-02-01T05:48:57Able_Tome puts the notebook into his saddlebag and slowly trots to Phoenix, "What do you propose?"
  804. 2014-02-01T05:49:34<Able_Tome> "Oh, and Hardboil?"
  805. 2014-02-01T05:50:09<Hardboil> "Yeah?"
  806. 2014-02-01T05:50:17<Phoenix_Down> "well to put it simply enough, another election... I understand its not something that should be at the top of a priority list with the going ons right now, but it's been clearly neglected, an election serves as a balance to the system of a council such as this, and its been long overdue... especially after the long drough of council activity..."
  807. 2014-02-01T05:50:37Able_Tome opens his saddlebag once more, getting the notebook out of it and listing through pages, "One... se- ah.", he pulls the paper out of it with notes and passes it to Detective
  808. 2014-02-01T05:52:29Cheren is still here, his lids weigh heavy on his eyes. He gets up and stretches.
  809. 2014-02-01T05:52:45Hardboil grabs it in a magical field, floating it to himself
  810. 2014-02-01T05:53:11<Redlight> [it makes sense. nix is shitposter anon]
  811. 2014-02-01T05:54:58Hardboil nods, putting the papers in his saddlebag, and floats Able charcoal stick back to him "Thanks."
  812. 2014-02-01T05:55:24Able_Tome takes the charcoal stick and starts to put items back into saddlebag, "The drough, you say? Have you -seen- how some elected officials were conducting their roles?"
  813. 2014-02-01T05:56:05<Able_Tome> "The so called 'drough' and this mess with laws? That's the 'popular voting' for you."
  814. 2014-02-01T05:56:47<Hardboil> "What's a drough?"
  815. 2014-02-01T05:56:56<Cheren> "A kind of beer."
  816. 2014-02-01T05:57:03<Hardboil> "Ah...."
  817. 2014-02-01T05:57:20<Phoenix_Down> [oh shit I did say drough, whoops]
  818. 2014-02-01T05:57:29<Able_Tome> [*drought]
  819. 2014-02-01T05:57:31<Able_Tome> [~]
  820. 2014-02-01T05:57:56Able_Tome smirks, "Pretty much... That's why there are thoughts to... change the system into syndicalist formula."
  821. 2014-02-01T05:58:06<Phoenix_Down> [shush, you know what I meant]
  822. 2014-02-01T05:58:55<Able_Tome> "The one that was proposed in the very beginning with 'representative' council being the alternative that was chosen."
  823. 2014-02-01T05:59:41<Able_Tome> "By such system, the community would be divided into Departments that exist right now. Each Department would elect an official for assembly's seat."
  824. 2014-02-01T06:00:40Phoenix_Down nods "mmm... seems more sound than what we have right now, assures that each representative has a better grasp and is more in tune with its department... "
  825. 2014-02-01T06:01:09<Hardboil> "Going home now... bye everyone." he says heading to the door
  826. 2014-02-01T06:01:22<Cheren> "Later, hardboil."
  827. 2014-02-01T06:03:21Hardboil exits
  828. 2014-02-01T06:03:24Able_Tome glances at Hardboil and waves to him, before looking at Phoenix, "Productive sectors that are incorporated into departments that vote for their representation by merit and own vote. Blacksmiths, tailors and engineers form the 'manufacturing' sector. Vault, researchers, magic experimentators form a 'science' or 'education' sector. Miners, lumberers and farmers form a 'resource'
  829. 2014-02-01T06:03:24Able_Tome sector. Medicine and Guards form 'public well-being sector... or similar."
  830. 2014-02-01T06:04:06<Cheren> "Yeah, hopefully we'll have something laid out by the time we finish with the investigation into Al Dente.
  831. 2014-02-01T06:05:03<Able_Tome> "For a citizen to vote they would have to be clearly a part of a 'syndicate' that unites spheres. Each 'syndicate' votes for their representative that joins assembly. Assembly? Assembly's basically our council, but with shifted roles."
  832. 2014-02-01T06:05:52Phoenix_Down nods in agreement "makes sense, what of roles like Cheren's who deals with the town economy?"
  833. 2014-02-01T06:05:55Able_Tome glances at Cheren and nods, "I've... heh... I've actually had this propositing since that time when we were chosing what government system should we chose... but then Lucyne and others happened."
  834. 2014-02-01T06:06:25Cheren props Rain up with his magic and TKs her onto him. "Think we can discuss this on the way to the farms?"
  835. 2014-02-01T06:07:29<Alten_Stahl> [We need a basic post office!!!]
  836. 2014-02-01T06:07:57Able_Tome shrugs, "Sure..." and looks at Phoenix, "Hm... technically economical decisions that concern -all- sectors are discussed within Assembly... and... coming along?"
  837. 2014-02-01T06:08:03<Phoenix_Down> [what do we need a post office for? everyone is within easy walking distance of each other]
  838. 2014-02-01T06:08:23<Able_Tome> [Or you can PM and say that you were there off screen~]
  839. 2014-02-01T06:11:38<Phoenix_Down> [wait was that an offer for me to come along?]
  840. 2014-02-01T06:11:52<Able_Tome> [yes]
  841. 2014-02-01T06:13:09Phoenix_Down nods "sure, if its no trouble"
  842. 2014-02-01T06:14:56<Cheren> "Just help with carrying Hoof, unless Able's going to do it."
  843. 2014-02-01T06:14:56Able_Tome nods and starts to follow Cheren, "Alrighty..."
  844. 2014-02-01T06:15:07Able_Tome stops, "Oh..."
  845. 2014-02-01T06:15:31Able_Tome facehoofs once more and looks back at the chair where Hoof is resting, "Right... heh..."
  846. 2014-02-01T06:15:39Phoenix_Down nods "I can get him..." heading over to where the green stallion nodded off, propping him up onto his back
  847. 2014-02-01T06:16:36Able_Tome narrows his unbandaged eye at the green form and envelops him in silvery glow, reducing earth stallion's weight, "T-There, should... help..."
  848. 2014-02-01T06:16:51Weathervane [[email protected]] is now known as Weathervane[Sleep]
  849. 2014-02-01T06:17:47<Able_Tome> "Right... lets head off then, eh?", he says while maintaining the focus on the green figure
  850. 2014-02-01T06:18:16Cheren yawns and lights up his horn while carrying the purple pegasus outside into the square. "Thanks. Don't know if Ikea keeps the fires stoked in the main hall at night."
  851. 2014-02-01T06:18:35Phoenix_Down nods in inaudible thanks as he follows after the others
  852. 2014-02-01T06:19:46Able_Tome follows the group while keeping the field around Hoof, "Hm... where -is- Ikea... considering what was said today and how "surprised" he was during last meeting...", he frowns, "... there are lots of things he needs to explain."
  853. 2014-02-01T06:20:03<Able_Tome> [channel?]
  854. 2014-02-01T06:21:23<Cheren> [square is fine]
  855. 2014-02-01T06:21:29<Able_Tome> [kk]
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