Title: [7:27:11 PM] Joe McKenzie: dis be Chupi/Goopi [7:27:42 PM] Jimmy Russels: Jimmy Author: Anonymous Pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/jB6uh8BT First Edit: Sunday 3rd of February 2013 07:58:28 PM CDT Last Edit: Sunday 3rd of February 2013 07:58:28 PM CDT [7:27:11 PM] Joe McKenzie: dis be Chupi/Goopi [7:27:42 PM] Jimmy Russels: Jimmy Russels has shared contact details with Joe McKenzie. [7:29:45 PM] Joe McKenzie: hi Jimmy, just wanted to know if you want someone to talk to [7:29:54 PM] Joe McKenzie: (this is Chupi) [7:29:57 PM] Jimmy Russels: Jimmy Russels has shared contact details with Joe McKenzie. [7:30:09 PM] Jimmy Russels: I'm fine for the moment, I guess. [7:30:18 PM] Joe McKenzie: okay [7:31:06 PM] Jimmy Russels: This is just one of those things where I realize now that I've over reacted, but I'm  not sure if it was the right move. [7:31:50 PM] Joe McKenzie: for the record, I've been through the same sort of doubt as to whether my tulpae actually exist, are just me, etc. [7:33:10 PM] Joe McKenzie: this is ultimately something you need to decide for yourself, but I and some others can offer guidance [7:33:58 PM] Jimmy Russels: Well, on the hand of bringing them back, I have the possibility of friendship 'till I die. [7:34:22 PM] Jimmy Russels: But that would mean I only have 3 really shallow tulpas to make friends out of. [7:34:39 PM] Joe McKenzie: they become a lot less shallow with time [7:34:44 PM] Jimmy Russels: On the other hand of leaving them, I have my sanity and tons of extra time. [7:34:47 PM] Joe McKenzie: also, tulpae don't preclude irl friends [7:35:07 PM] Joe McKenzie: nor do tulpae preclude sanity, imo [7:35:44 PM] Joe McKenzie: although I have considedered the possibility of this driving me bonkers [7:36:39 PM] Jimmy Russels: Well, I don't know if the tulpas in my head that want to stay will ultimately stay themselves. [7:37:08 PM] Jimmy Russels: Helix, Solace, Lucia and Peter just decided that they wanted to leave me, just like that. [7:37:27 PM] Jimmy Russels: I don't know if its worth putting the effort into the ones that remain. [7:37:46 PM] Joe McKenzie: some tulpae do honestly want to leave and stay gone, though others change their minds [7:38:14 PM] Joe McKenzie: did they say *why* they wanted to leave? [7:38:55 PM] Jimmy Russels: Helix because she wanted more attention and doesn't think I will ever be able to satisfy her. [7:39:06 PM] Jimmy Russels: Solace because she wants to work on her programming. [7:39:26 PM] Jimmy Russels: Lucia and Peter becuase they want to run away together. [7:39:36 PM] Joe McKenzie: wait, is your wonderland filled with other people? [7:39:56 PM] Jimmy Russels: What do you mean? [7:40:09 PM] Jimmy Russels: I, before this little incident happened, had 7 tulpas. [7:40:19 PM] Joe McKenzie: I mean are there other people in your wonderland apart from your tulpae? [7:40:34 PM] Jimmy Russels: No. [7:40:44 PM] Joe McKenzie: mostly wondering where Helix thinks she's going [7:41:27 PM] Joe McKenzie: she will probably be back then... she's not likely to find the attention she wants out there, so she'll probably want the attention she can get instead of none at all [7:41:49 PM] Joe McKenzie: unless she can figure out how to make a tulpa herself [7:41:58 PM] Jimmy Russels: Well I don't know if the tulpas that wanted to stay will stay. [7:42:08 PM] Jimmy Russels: If over half of my 7 left just like that. [7:42:20 PM] Joe McKenzie: also actually, what you just had is not that uncommon [7:42:40 PM] Joe McKenzie: Sock has a ton of tulpae, but few of them hang around all the time [7:42:58 PM] Joe McKenzie: one guards the wonderland and is almost never heard from [7:43:21 PM] Joe McKenzie: others basically go do their own things [7:44:08 PM] Joe McKenzie: this is also common for authors whose characters come to life and are basically tulpae [7:44:27 PM] Jimmy Russels: I put so much work into the ones that left (not counting peter and lucia) [7:44:43 PM] Jimmy Russels: I feel like just starting the whole thing over again. [7:44:51 PM] Joe McKenzie: and you will probably hear from them [7:44:59 PM] Joe McKenzie: just not have them around all the time [7:45:27 PM] Joe McKenzie: actually, if you like and if they agree, you could make a phone that lets you talk to them wherever they are [7:45:41 PM] Jimmy Russels: Can I force them to come back? [7:45:47 PM] Joe McKenzie: maybe [7:46:05 PM] Joe McKenzie: but if they *truly* want to be away, they wouldn't be happy about it if you did [7:46:35 PM] Joe McKenzie: one thing you could do is contact them and try to see what would make them want to come back [7:47:38 PM] Jimmy Russels: Well Helix probably has one of the viruses again. The ones that modify personalities. The ones I've been told to not medel with anymore. The ones that made Lucia want to kill herself. [7:47:56 PM] Joe McKenzie: oh [7:48:14 PM] Joe McKenzie: can you make an antidote? [7:49:50 PM] Jimmy Russels: The only solution I know of is to remove them from the infect tulpa's soul. Which Chris told me not to do, by extension allow my tulpas to kill themselves, and by extentsion, helped start all this. [7:50:13 PM] Joe McKenzie: oh [7:51:45 PM] Joe McKenzie: I don't see why some sort of antiviral wouldn't work [7:52:55 PM] Jimmy Russels: The ida that not believing in the existence of the viruses was brought up. I guess I'll go with that, maybe. [7:53:03 PM] Jimmy Russels: I'll just work on the tulpas that stayed. [7:53:17 PM] Jimmy Russels: And use the extra space in my roster to get another one. [7:53:23 PM] Joe McKenzie: as for Lucia and Peter, if what they wanted with running away together was more independence and living together, one possibility would be to make them a house somewhere nearby where they can live together (or heck, their own planet if they like, you can teleport) [7:54:44 PM] Joe McKenzie: imo you'll likely do better dealing with fewer of them directly, and let the others do their own thing for a while [7:55:04 PM] Joe McKenzie: just in terms of dividing attention multiple ways [7:56:00 PM] Joe McKenzie: I have a hard enough time giving attention to my 3, though I consider 3 to be a very good number because if I want to focus attention on one of them, the other two can do whatever together [7:56:57 PM] Joe McKenzie: btw, tell me whether you want me to reopen your progress thread, since it was closed after your "I'm leaving" post [7:57:38 PM] Joe McKenzie: off to dinner, I'll be back in a half hour or so [7:57:46 PM] Jimmy Russels: Ok. [8:45:21 PM] Jimmy Russels: Well I took your advice. [8:46:52 PM] Jimmy Russels: I made a phone for the ones that wanted to leave, and I made a house for Lucia and Peter, and a junkyard for Solace, since she likes to tinker with stuff. [8:47:19 PM] Jimmy Russels: As for Helix, she's going somewhere, exactly where, I don't know. [8:48:28 PM] Jimmy Russels: I talked to the ones that stayed, and I made another form, based off Pascal from Tales Of Graces, and I have an idea for another based of an OC my IRL friend made.