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Zennistrad #1482908 1 week ago

Yeah, Celestia and Luna have probably had their fair share of sorrows stemming from this.

Anonymous #1482909 1 week ago

Hasn't this been explored an untold number of times in popular media ?

Professor_of_hoers #1482910 1 week ago

I don't know.

Gundlach #1482914 1 week ago

I'd rather not be immortal on this plane of existence. Because, eventually, this little piece of reality will die.

Mayojar77 #1482915 1 week ago

Meh. Immortality is boring. you actually do end up doing everything there is to do by the time you've reached 600.

Zennistrad #1482916 1 week ago

Why would it be Sour Grapes? Things change, people die, and entire kingdoms will eventually fade into history. Imagine how traumatic it is to see your own child die before you. Now imagine that, but for your entire WORLD. Not pleasant.

Yorec #1482918 1 week ago

Has it been explicitly stated that they are immortal or just long lived?

Feral_Socks #1482919 1 week ago

There's also the thing of, If you live forever, you will eventually become trapped somewhere. Then you will be stuck in the same place for all eternity. I would only want to be immortal if I also had the ability to become incorporeal at will.

ClownDicks #1482921 1 week ago

@Zennistrad Things change, people die, and entire kingdoms will eventually fade into history. Exactly. The world is always changing. You have forever to look forward to.

Anonymous #1482926 1 week ago

1º You life forever 2º You can do whatever the fuck you want (study, explode things, make a rape train, go to jail, wait for people to die so you can escape) 3º In the end everyone you know dies 4º You can enter into relationships but they wont last long compared to your life spawn 5º Reach the end of the universe as we know it 6º Suffer unspeakable pain from the compactment, stretchment and subsequent explotion of the universe, which will lasts for thousands of years until life is born again and sentient beings revive 7º You are alone of millieniums. 8º The end of times comes, no more 1ups for the universe. 9º You are stuck in the "nothing"

Theopticals #1482927 1 week ago

I really wouldn't care either way. If I were to live forever I think I would be pretty happy for a long, long time because that gives you a lot of time to do just about anything and everything. But seeing as we all die anyway and they haven't invented a way to be immortal yet, I say who cares about the idea because it won't happen, at least not in our lifetime.

ClownDicks #1482929 1 week ago

@Feral_Socks Really? That's your best defense of your inability to think bigger?

Impious #1482936 1 week ago

People will think I posted this... But no, it was Dicks

Anonymous #1482937 1 week ago

@926 Fuck my english goddamnit.

Impious #1482943 1 week ago

But by my perspective... A long life of power with others who are equally long-lived and powerful would be nice. Living forever with very few (possibly no) shoulders to lean on and no real reasons to live would suck, a lot. The absolute worst case scenario would be absolute eternity, alone.

Anonymous #1482948 1 week ago

There's the heat death of the universe to look forward to. Imagine spending the rest of forever alone in a void. Luckily, you won't be coherent enough to comprehend any of that since you've probably gone senile long ago. After all, our brains can only hold so much information before they start forgetting things. The constant flushing of memories for new ones would probably do "wonders" on top of the traumas and sorrow following the deaths of loved ones and civilizations. You'd probably end up losing your sense of self and how you became immortal in the first place.

Anonymous #1482955 1 week ago

Already a complete exsistentialist, immortality would just be a +1 for me

BackgroundPony17 #1482958 1 week ago

Well, since none of us here are going to be burdened with this problem, there doesn't seem much point in debating it, is there?

CottonTales #1482965 1 week ago

that's not why it sucks it's fucking boring an extremely long life I can deal with but forever fuck that

Impious #1482967 1 week ago

Well, it can be debated for the sake of debate. That, and is wishing for immortality really such a good idea in the first place?

Anonymous #1482973 1 week ago

Then give up your immortality.

Arne #1482975 1 week ago

Nope. I've actually put an almost disturbing amount of thought into the whole "immortality" thing. And trust me when I say, it would suck. It would eventually make it so you would not be human... not genetically, of course, you'd still be human genetically. But the way you would act would be so inhuman, you might as well not be one. Let me explain this... humans are social animals, a huge part of being human is interacting with other humans. But here's the thing... the older the get the faster your perception of time gets. Example, when you're really long an hour seem like a long time, but as you get really old years seem like they just fly by. This would cause some serious problems when you're immortal. Eventually it will get to the point where you could no longer interact with other humans, because you've been alive for so long the average human lifespan would seem so short, you would feel that even trying to interact with them would be completely pointless. Pretty much going against the social nature of being human. Not to mention that this planet will eventually be destroyed, resulting in you doing nothing but aimlessly floating through space for who knows how long.

CottonTales #1482977 1 week ago

not to mention the longer you live the faster time seems to pass by at a point you don't make connections with others at all because they're there one second gone the next

Plain_Pony #1482982 1 week ago

There are positives and negatives. There are positives and negatives to mortality as well. The difference is that you have more time to enjoy the positives with immortality.

Kenny19951112 #1482984 1 week ago

*no patience to read the comments* I'd probably wouldn't get sad because I usually get bored of who I fall in love with.

CottonTales #1482988 1 week ago

and imagine immortality with the ability to feel pain if the sun goes red giant you better be ready to be on fire for a long time and at the end of the universe...well you're pretty much dead no heat you freeze your mind rests being technically alive doesn't matter

Impious #1482990 1 week ago

Okay, okay. So let's take a page from Celestia's handbook (hoofbook?) and say your perception of time stays relatively normal, akin to that of a mortal. Still fast enough to pose a problem, but not enough to utterly cripple you and eventually reduce you to a gibbering sociopath. Any better, or even worse now that eternity feels like eternity?

Theopticals #1483000 1 week ago

Here's an interesting question for most of us, sorry if I offened anyone into that whole creationism business, but would evolution take it's course in an immortal human? Small changes spanning over thousand of years, so small we wouldn't even notice, but eventually, what could we become?

Jack-o-Lantern #1483001 1 week ago

Immortality is something I welcome and as a man of science I will achieve this, it can be done. It won't suck for me and I won't say why cause don't want to seem cold.

Impious #1483011 1 week ago

Eternity wouldn't suck if you weren't alone. Being part of some immortal brotherhood that oversees the development of galactic civilization or something could be nice. You'd have a purpose and you wouldn't be alone.

Arne #1483012 1 week ago

@Theopticals THAT'S NOT HOW EVOLUTION WORKS! All it does is change a creature so it better suited for it's environmental. I.E: more fur/fat/some from of insulation in colder areas. It will in no way result in immortality! That doesn't even make sense!

CottonTales #1483024 1 week ago

Which is the only reason I find Celestia amazing after so long she still manages to gives a fuck about others I can tell you after a while I'd be closer to Discord or just a completely uncaring individual

Theopticals #1483032 1 week ago

Arne, I don't think you've understood me question at all.

Anonymous #1483046 1 week ago

@Theopticals Huh, reminds me of the vampires in Legacy of Kain. That's an interesting thought.Though, from what I know, aquired genetic mutations can't be passed on to next generations of somatic cells. (not sure, but...) We would probably develop several ugly tumors.

CottonTales #1483049 1 week ago

@Impious even if you weren't alone it would suck I'm telling you eternal boredom and the universe will eventually end so what then

Arne #1483051 1 week ago

@Theopticals That is... highly possible.

Impious #1483058 1 week ago

Celestia's either an incredible actress that has never let the painted smile fade, or she actually has a whole fuckton of friends that we don't know about yet. I still think her sense of time is akin to a mortal's, otherwise by now there would be no way in hell that she could possibly be as sweet and caring as she is.

Feral_Socks #1483061 1 week ago

Arne, he's not saying that. He's asking whether or not evolution would affect a creature that's already immortal.

CottonTales #1483067 1 week ago

@Feral then no adaptation would but not evolution

Anonymous #1483074 1 week ago

I'll be honest. I would adore the idea of immortality. Yes it sucks that the people you love would die, but that doesn't mean you can't help them live happy lives. And an eternity to master my art and work on my life's goal. Oooooh that's so be so good.

Impious #1483076 1 week ago

I doubt that, Socks. Evolution occurs through each progressing generation. Minute changes may occur in an individual, but nothing drastic. An immortal might change a little bit, but after a million years he'd still be the same being. After a billion, maybe more drastic changes will have come about. But without any actual new genes in the gene pool, I doubt it would be anything more than simple adaptations: changes in pigment, added muscle, changes in eyesight to adapt to different kinds of light, etc. Nothing special.

Arne #1483077 1 week ago

@Feral_Socks Oh, I see... Well, no. No it wouldn't. Evolution doesn't do anything to a creature that is already alive. It would have some kind of effect on their offspring, if they could have any... and at that point, I would hope that immortality isn't genetic.

Anonymous #1483080 1 week ago

I'll be honest. I would adore the idea of immortality. Yes it sucks that the people you love would die, but that doesn't mean you can't help them live happy lives. And an eternity to master my art and work on my life's goal. Oooooh that'd be so good.

Anonymous #1483085 1 week ago

whups, dupe

Don #1483087 1 week ago

@Arne Well it does, but not in any desirable way. Cells evolving into cancer.

Anonymous #1483090 1 week ago

If immortailty was aquired it probably wouldn't be genetic.

Anonymous #1483091 1 week ago

It's easy to criticize what you haven't experienced, what no living human (that I know of) could understand. We come up with idea of how much that would suck, but we have NO examples to back those ideas up. Without data of ANY KIND AT ALL it's all baseless speculation. I for one, find that we commonly underestimate what a person can deal with. Watching loved ones die, watching the world change, this is part of growing old anyway. Does anyone really think that it's better to die off with them? How is death better? It's yet another unknown that no living person can tell us about. I, for one, never want to die. EVER. I can't see how non existence could possibly be the lesser of two evils. And if there is some kind of afterlife, isn't that just another kind of immortality anyway?

Arne #1483097 1 week ago

@080 But what would you do after you mastered your art, whatever it happens to be... take up something new? And what about when you're done with that? And the next thing... and the next thing... and the next thing... ect. ect. There will a point where you have done everything that you could possible do. And you would still have an eternity after that. What would you do?

Theopticals #1483098 1 week ago

I agree with Impious on the matter, I just wanted to hear other's opinions.

Arne #1483107 1 week ago

@091 Death gives our lives urgency, it gives us purpose, it gives use meaning. It gives us a reason to actually do something with ourselves. You take away death, there's no reason to do anything.

Anonymous #1483110 1 week ago

@Arne My goal in life is to create strong AIs. If I had an eternity to master it I would create a god machine to tell me what to do next. I would create thinking machines the size of planets and uncover the mysteries of the universe, and then BREAK them!

Anonymous #1483115 1 week ago

@Arne As far as I see, death gives us a very limited amount of time to achieve our dreams.

Jack-o-Lantern #1483116 1 week ago

Anon091 you win. Also thought I should point out that jellyfishes are immortal. Don't know why I point that out but I do know I do not want to spend all night with this when I could be riding Molestia.

Impious #1483119 1 week ago

I have to agree with Arne 107. Life is defined by death. Eventually you'll stop doing anything and you'll just be lazy for the rest of eternity. Nothing you do matters. Nobody, in the long run, gives a shit about anything you do. Yeah you can try to get famous and powerful and pretend to be a living god, but that kind of fame is a hollow existence itself. When you know you're mortal, there's a deadline. You have to make your life count before you die. That's living.

Arne #1483124 1 week ago

@115 Exactly the reason why you should work as hard as you can to complete them in the limited time that you have. With immortality... doesn't really matter, you can do it next millennium. Why even worry, you have plenty of time. @110 I have to say, that is one.... interesting goal you have there.

Anonymous #1483125 1 week ago

@Impious Aren't you even slightly tempted by the thought of living in a cyberspace world? To be part of exploration of space? Just look what we have accomplished in 50 years, now imagine what we could do in 5000.

Arne #1483128 1 week ago

@Impious Heh... Deadline... I really should be finding that amusing...

Impious #1483134 1 week ago

That's why it's called a deadline. 125 Eternity with thousands of others in an ever-changing world? I'm down with that. Like I've said, the merits of immortality would be purely circumstantial. We are social creatures; and eternity alone would destroy our minds no matter how powerful, rendering us cold and unfeeling creatures. I'm totally in support of living for tens of thousands of years alongside others to see where we go as a people, and to watch others like myself grow and adapt. But to be utterly alone forever... Sure, the discovery would be tantalizing at first. But eventually, I will have done everything I care to do. What then? By then I would be tired, and I would want a way out. A long, but mortal life would be ideal.

Anonymous #1483140 1 week ago

I would certainly want to end my life after a couple thousands of years, or even earlier. Imagine having to create relationships, and bond with new people every fifty years, just to see them die.Anyone would certainly give up on human interaction after doing it all over several times. Unless the immortal one had an objective, like the evolution of science and comprehension of the universe...creation of a new religion, world domination...and other suff like that.

Feral_Socks #1483181 1 week ago

I'm with Impious. Long but mortal life, maybe 50000 years or so.

DoctorDreidal #1483204 1 week ago

If I were immortal, the only thing I'd really have a problem adapting to is the fact that I may have to bury all my friends and family (Or that would be my biggest problem, assuming that my body remains relatively vital). That being said, I'd probably cope, at least initially, by promising to carry on for as long as I could.

Anonymous #1483266 1 week ago

nope

RealityCheck #1483276 1 week ago

This, my friends, is why corporeal immortality without spiritual life is just a living death. My headcanon is that Luna and Celestia are able to cope with immortality because they are, in some way, in the know about or connected with what comes after...

Zeryurijin #1483279 1 week ago

Who wants to live forever? Who wants to live forever? Who dares to love forever... when love must die? ~Queen

Saint_Braeburn #1483302 1 week ago

I've thought about this before The answer is Yes and No. For some it would be hard at first, but eventually they would to learn to cope. For others this would be endless Torture and nothing more. Others would just go insane However, it's important that we define what immortality means in this question. Does it mean never aging, never dying but still aging (this would be problematic), never aging and being "immune" to death? If it's the latter than a whole bunch of new questions arise. Can you feel pain? Can you regenerate loss limbs? What happens if you get something like AIDS, Cancer, or Herpes? Can you survive without breathing? Will brain cells regrow or do you risk becoming an immortal vegetable? So, this is kinda a loaded question

I_Like_Your_Mane #1483319 1 week ago

I wouldn't mind eternal life. Nothing can hold my ego. Plus, if anybody wants a really good videogame on this topic, play Lost Odyssey. Absolutely brilliant game about all the sadness and hardships of being immortal.

Bobrella #1483382 1 week ago

If I became immortal, I would become mad in just within the first fifty years. Even now I slowly feel the madness set in as the years pass: consuming me, changing me, becoming me. I deeply hate cycles, always taunting me with the same mundane, day in and day out, year after year. Always going to the same job, always meeting with the same twats that sometimes make life a bit difficult for comfort. Eventually even seeing loved ones pass and meeting new ones, then have the cycle repeated again. I guess some positives of eternity with would the addition and perfection of skills and knowledge over time, using them for my amusement and advantage. To be able to create new and fantastic things over time to starve off boredom, to better humanity in some way if I don’t become selfish enough. Sometimes being corrupted by the madness to deconstruct and destroy the very same things that define and surround me. Sometimes... Life just sucks.

Anonymous #1484831 1 week ago

u already lost me at 'immortality'

-Lunacy #1485059 1 week ago

Many things take an iron will to do things. Celestia must have a will made of diamonds, with the many generations of ponies who have passed during her reign. On another note, I've also attained agelessness (oc blatherings), but I haven't lived a full life yet.

ChickNeighney #1485791 1 week ago

@I_Like_Your_Mane It's also a game you should play if you think you're devoid of human emotion. One hour in and I was already on the brink of tears.

SonOfTheNorthe #1486268 1 week ago

Being completely immortal would suck. I'd rather have infinite life unless I die from something that would kill the Hulk.