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IpersonallylikedCupcakes
#1475166
2 weeks ago
I always saw it as a "YOU KNOW WHAT, FUCK IT! I DON'T CARE ANYMORE, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT!" message.

That's just me though.
Yorec
#1475170
2 weeks ago
Dude, you just blew my fucking mind. I.. I gotta go think about this.

AetherNite75
#1475172
2 weeks ago
Can I please enjoy my ponies without people putting religion in them!?
RandomFanguy
#1475175
2 weeks ago
Screw this, I'm gonna dance....
Bobrella
#1475178
2 weeks ago
Forced Dance thread? Forced Dance thread.
Anonymous
#1475181
2 weeks ago
I understand that this is a slowpoke joke, and maybe my response is equally slow; Feeling Pinkie Keen could actually be taken both ways. If you are raised to believe in the big bang, evolution, and such, naturally you will not understand everything about them. In fact, unless you put significant study into them, you never will. So it takes a little "faith" to believe in the consensus of scientists.

If however, this refers to skepticism in the sense of doubting the very nature of knowledge...yeah, I can see that, too.
Bobrella
#1475184
2 weeks ago
ARGH
#1475185
2 weeks ago
Dude, this message can be about anything you don't quite understand at first. It does truly take a friend to show you what it means, sometimes since they know more and can tell you in better words than someone you don't know
Don
#1475191
2 weeks ago
How is Pinkie a religious nutjob? She is able to tell the future and she doesn't know why.

Religious nutjobs believe in stuff without any proof at all.
kamazeustra
#1475201
2 weeks ago
I also found it easy to take this lesson the opposite way. Twilight's completely unscientific methodology and her continued refusal to see where the evidence was pointing were not skepticism.
Anonymous
#1475202
2 weeks ago
Zombie_Trotsky
#1475212
2 weeks ago
Wouldn't being an atheist be silly in a place where gods (or their equivalent) exist and are shown and mentioned constantly? Or am I looking at it wrong?
Don
#1475214
2 weeks ago
@Zombie_Trotsky

Probably not. If it's anything like Discworld you'd just get gods smashing in your windows with bricks.
Zombie_Trotsky
#1475221
2 weeks ago
@Don

Oh okay. I haven't read Discworld books, but I sorta get the mythology.

Anyway, I kinda wished Twilight didn't try to act like a "Hollywood atheist" and act like her "magic" was superior to Pinkie's... Pinkieness.
jimlahey
#1475239
2 weeks ago
twilight is the one with the retarded religious-like dogma, science isnt about holding on to your beliefs and ignoring contradictory evidence
DoctorDreidal
#1475286
2 weeks ago
I really liked FPK, it's one of my top 5 favorite episodes from season 1. I always interpreted the moral as "Sometimes your friends do things you can't explain and you just gotta let them do it." Obviously that doesn't apply to everything (like if your friend suffers from epilepsy), but everyone's got a friend that does something goofy for no other reason than it's goofy. Then again, what do I know? I'm just a filthy deist.[/spoiler
KlinKitty
#1475355
2 weeks ago
Feeling Pinkie Keen is the "Twilight is a really crappy scientist" episode.
NotAPseudonym
#1475387
2 weeks ago
She gets there in the end. Proper rigor is a lot to expect from any science on TV.
22 minutes of Spike dropping assorted objects from a variety of heights and ranges from Pinkie, followed by Twi doing some stats, would not have been more interesting to watch.
I would totally watch an episode like that, but then I may not be normal.
Vree
#1475467
2 weeks ago
It is fitting that you put up a Slowpoke picture, because we have had this discussion right after the episode.

But they, don't let that stop the latecomers have fun with the leftovers.
Don
#1475473
2 weeks ago
There are barely any leftovers. There doesn't seem to be any argument here.
Vree
#1475479
2 weeks ago
PS. Faust (who was still alive at the time) wrote once that they may have overdone the "knowledge bad, faith good" angle.

Pretty clear what the intention was tho'.
RandomFella
#1475500
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
#1475699
2 weeks ago
Yes the magical unicorn who works for a sun goddess is an atheist
Anonymous
#1475813
2 weeks ago
I thought it was about Twilight trying to make Pinkie sense make sense and was trying to understand it, then just said "Hey, I'll never get somethings" and dropped it because it wasn't worth it.
Anonymous
#1475847
2 weeks ago
Vree@1475479 said:

It's sad when Faust has to explain things to grown men that over-analysis a little girls show something that kids would get in an instant. There are some people that still bitch about the mare do well episode because it went straight over their heads. It's sad, really.
Irony
#1475852
2 weeks ago
That was the intent, but in that regard it was a failure. Skepticism is about following evidence, not about just doubting everything. The difference between Pinkie sense and (insert random supernatural whatsit here) is that in universe Pinkie sense actually exists and provides plenty of evidence to back that up. Plenty of things aren't fully understood, but still obviously exist, gravity, the twin-split photon pattern still existing when you fire single photons. etc.

So yeah, the "moral" of that episode sucked. It was still a good ep though.
EricNeoMatrix
#1475859
2 weeks ago
Wow, what a shitstorm over a basically ancient debate...
Anonymous
#1475862
2 weeks ago
Irony@1475852 said:

The moral was that somethings you'll never understand and you don't need to live in logic alone and doing harm to yourself just to prove yourself right in a issue that never mattered in the first place.

The moral was okay, it's peoples interpretation that sucked.
Anonymous
#1475864
2 weeks ago
EricNeoMatrix@1475859 said:

Shitstorm? What shitstorm?
Anonymous
#1475872
2 weeks ago
@vree
Faust died?!
Irony
#1475878
2 weeks ago
@Anon862 That was most likely the intent, but it was very poorly executed. The fact that so many interpret it as an anti-knowledge, anti-science "moral" is proof enough of that. They could have had Twi merely frustrated to the point of obsession over not knowing how Pinkie sense worked without going all straw-atheist and denying its existence despite it being so well evidenced.
Anonymous
#1475896
2 weeks ago
Irony@1475878 said:

That's the people's fault, not the episode.

Twilight is just all about logic, and what Pinkie was doing made no logical sense.

People (grown ups) were just projecting their "adult" views on to a little kids show, that's all.

The only ones that had a problem with the show's moral are the kind of people who would overly analyses "Ed Edd n' Eddy" and call it a horrible shit storm of bad influences, or the ones that try to band the Looney Toons show because the animals talk.
Anonymous
#1475903
2 weeks ago
[quote=Irony@1475878]
People ghave misinterpreted the morals all the time, how is it the show's fault that some people are retarded? That mare do well episode is a perfect example of massive babies crying and not getting it.
Irony
#1475917
2 weeks ago
^ When people consistently misinterpret something like that, it means it wasn't well presented. I like the episode for what it is, and I love the show, but that doesn't excuse blind fanboyism. It made a misstep in this one instance. It's no big deal.
Anonymous
#1475931
2 weeks ago
Irony@1475917 said:

Or they like characters a little too much. People just need to take a step back and remind themselves that this is a kids show and it's not for them in the first place. Some people just need to get hit in the head with a letter that has details and spelled out in small letters what this episode's moral is, because some people are just that dumb.
Anonymous
#1475935
2 weeks ago
Irony@1475917 said:

Do you know what goes into an episode, the amount of rewrites and months it takes to write a episode, and not one person thought that grown men would of missed the moral that badly? It just tells me that the people who work on the show are giving to much credit to their audience. The show was for kids, not internet dwelling man-children that can't figure something out even if it's explained to them in detail.
WatermelonRat
#1476086
2 weeks ago
I never understood how people saw that message in Feeling Pinkie Keen. The evidence clearly pointed to the Pinkie Sense being real, so it's really not comparable to religion.
Anonymous
#1487883
1 week ago
congrats Slowpoke, on being both Late and Incorrect