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Anonymous
#1457747
3 weeks ago
I never understood why americans like weapons so much.

I mean, it's not like you are going to shoot someone.
Wepon_is_magicV2
#1457750
3 weeks ago
What you dont have a *pulls out Fat Man/ M.R.V.I. Launcher*?
Anonymous
#1457753
3 weeks ago
We keep them around so we don't have to shoot anyone. Sic vis pacem para bellum.
The_Baron
#1457754
3 weeks ago
Did you know that gun deaths exceed motor vehicle deaths in 10 U.S. states? Food for thought.
Wepon_is_magicV2
#1457758
3 weeks ago
M.I.R.V.*
Yurp
#1457759
3 weeks ago
so the answer is a no, no assault rifle :P
Anonymous
#1457760
3 weeks ago
me gusta
Anonymous
#1457764
3 weeks ago
@753

lolwut? Where I live I don't have weapons. Not does my neighboors. And it's a pretty calm place.
Epicplatypus
#1457765
3 weeks ago
I wont have to shoot anyone.... because who would want to shoot at someone with THIS many guns....
Bolan
#1457770
3 weeks ago
My city has been having an increase in gun violence. A man killed by a stray bullet from an altercation two men were having as he was driving his two young children and parents to the airport. He died in his father's arms. The two men having the fight fled the scene.
Anonymous
#1457776
3 weeks ago
@Epic

Err... you can only use one gun at time.
Kajet
#1457781
3 weeks ago
why do I want to add "Trying_too_hard" as a tag to every picture of guns?
RepentantAnon
#1457783
3 weeks ago
i would LIKE to own a lot of weapons, always been a dream of mine! even if you dont use them, they have a powerfull feel about them, not to mention their internal workings, AND the fact that they apply physics with deadly precision in order ot work :3
The_Baron
#1457788
3 weeks ago
@764

If you didn't notice, America is a big place, (/sarcasm)
and I'm sure you're home state is no exception. I live in California which, not only has to deal with gang violence, but boarder violence and poaching as well. Just because there isn't violence in your neighbor hood doesn't mean it's widespread in your state.
Anonymous
#1457789
3 weeks ago
@Repentant

Why not swords then?
Wepon_is_magicV2
#1457790
3 weeks ago
@1457760
JK its a friggin Nuke launcher out of Fallout XD
Abou
#1457793
3 weeks ago
You're not compensating for something, are you, Epic?
Anonymous
#1457800
3 weeks ago
@The_Baron

Hum... I am not american.

But does it really matter if you have a gun? Most people who have guns don't know how to use them.

Besides, if you need to use one, would you have one, loaded, at the exactly moment?

And besides, would you be able to aim and think in the adrenaline rush of the danger?

And lastly, are you sure you could do it before the threat attacks you? Because the gang or the bandit would have the initiative.

This is why I don't accept much the: I have guns for protection. Most of the times they aren't effective. It may sound coward, but I think it's better to give up your wallet than risk dieing.
Anonymous
#1457808
3 weeks ago
@Wepon

And here is another reason: I don't see the point in having bigger weapons also. Unless you are planning to fight a war, that is.

For example: Rambo with a minigun versus Noob with a pistol. Noob takes Rambo by surprise: shoot him. Rambo is dead.

Firearms are already pretty destructive. Unless the threat is using armor or something like that, I don't see the point in big weapons... except for collector itens, that is.
RepentantAnon
#1457817
3 weeks ago
@1457789 i like swords too :D
The_Baron
#1457822
3 weeks ago
@800

There's a very large gun culture in the U.S. as you can probably tell from this site. The biggest problem with that is that there's almost no culture of responsibility when it comes to handling guns. I actually with there was no 2nd amendment, it would make this country a lot more peaceful, but since that won't happen, we have to rely on gun control laws. As you can probably tell, I'm no fan of owning guns "for fun".
Anonymous
#1457834
3 weeks ago
@The_Baron

Fair point.
Epicplatypus
#1457892
3 weeks ago
Just a little fun fact
the famous north Hollywood shootout happened 2 years AFTER the assault weapons ban. The weapons were purchased illegally
Switzerland has some of the loosest gun laws in the world, and they have one of the lowest crime rates.
You dont see the point for big weapons? well, by that logic, whats the point behind SUV's? whats the point behind a 747?.... Each weapon has it's own use, even if it's just STUPID like a .50 beowulf, the point of it is that we have the freedom to own such things.... restrict 1 thing for 1 stupid reason and you have the power to restrict whatever you want. and then comes the question, what qualifies as a BIG weapon?
and the whole compensating for something.
Yeah the only people who say that are either scared of guns or too poor to own one. I own them because I can, because I like them, because I hunt, I collect, and im in the army, so I enjoy being able to take my work home with me.
Im not going to spend a year in the desert getting shot at only to survive and come back here and have some drugged up fuckwad kill me or someone close to me because im suddenly defenseless after a year.
Epicplatypus
#1457900
3 weeks ago
@#1457800
yeah im not gonna shoot some idiot for trying to take my wallet.
But guns are like condoms, It's better to have one and not need it than need it and not have one.
Anonymous
#1457927
3 weeks ago
@Epic

So... what? Criminals also use weapons restricted to armed forces and body armor.

As I said, there is no point in owning a big weapon unless you are fighting a war. You aren't going to use an assault rifle or combat shotgun for civilian protection. It would be cumbersome and mostly unrealistic.

I never said anything about restricting, but since you touched the subject, just because one thing is restricted doesn't mean everything is. For example, can you buy a bazooka or a grenade, legally in the US? I really ask because I don't know, but I think not.

My country was estabilished big weapons as anything bigger than a handgun, such as pistol or revolver. For civilian protection, I on't see why much more would be needed.

And as I explained, not even all the armor or weapons in the world would protect you. For example, I will take your word that you are a soldier. I approach you, unexpected, appointing a gun for your head. Are you really going to holster you weapon?
Anonymous
#1457947
3 weeks ago
Guns are awesome
Ponies are awesome
Criminals gonna criminal
Cry some more
Anonymous
#1457949
3 weeks ago
@Epic

And there is another problem: do you wander with your weapon or you keep it a home? If you keep at home, you probably won't use it... unless someone manages to jump into your house.

Do you walk with it? Then there is another problem, one pretty common: let's suppose someone insults you... badly. Are you sure you have enough self control to not just shoot him?

One of the most common excuses I hear at the TV was: "I was not thinking straight." At the moment of anger, very few people can really think straight. Since you claim to be a soldier, I believe you have self control to do this. But those things aren't set in stone.

My point is: the same way they bring protection they can also bring danger. This is why I prefer to walk without them.

Of course that is just my op.
Epicplatypus
#1457989
3 weeks ago
A combat shotgun cumbersome? I think you have that mixed up... as someone who has USED these weapons in a tactical training environment I will tell you a HUNTING shotgun, or a typical civillian shotgun is heavy, cumbersome and unrealistic to use in a self defense situation.
And you answered your own question. "Why would I need a big gun"
because
"Criminals also use weapons restricted to armed forces and body armor."
there isint a SINGLE handgun in the world that could compete with an assault rifle in terms of range and power. Also, a shotgun is honestly the preferred home defense weapon, its easy to use, wont jam, near impossible to miss at defensive range. The assault rifle has high ammo capacity, higher power, longer range, MUCH better accuracy. Each weapons system fits a different niche in the defensive aspect. A shotgun will stop someone at short range 9/10 times but 1/10 times at anything further than 25 yards (unless you're using a slug gun or some specialty ammo). A Pistol will be more maneuverable at close ranges and easier to wield, BUT will stop someone 6/10 times because of the smaller round and its harder to aim than a shotgun and you arent hitting ANYTHING beyond 25 yards. I dont care HOW good you think you shoot.. An assault rifle is unwieldy and hard to aim at close range, but at medium to long ranges it is hard to beat.
As for bazookas and grenades, yes actually you can. HOWEVER it requires an EXTENSIVE background check, an unrealistic amount of money and TIGHT restrictions (also you are automatically put on the FBI watch list and will probably get selected for "additional screening" at an airport.)
Your last question is confusing so I'll give you an all around answer to it.
If you approach me, attempting to kill me, yes, I WILL fire back or atleast attempt to. Why would I LET someone try to kill me? If you just want my wallet, go ahead and take it. Just dont put that gun down when you walk away. also i would file a police report and get you caught eventually.
Epicplatypus
#1457999
3 weeks ago
Well, I leave my shotgun in the house, usually next to my bed or in the closet or something. Some place where if I heard someone trying to break in (my dog would wake me up) I could get to it easily.
When I go out, I WOULD carry my 1911 if I was able to. BUT state laws keep me from doing that. It' smaller, easier to carry. I have the self control to not pull my gun on some idiot for being a douchebag. For the simple reason that it wouldnt be worth it, and I dont want to kill a civilian, BUT also because OTHER people have guns as well. The system corrects itself.
Ashdreg
#1458094
3 weeks ago
What kind of revolver is that right there?
Epicplatypus
#1458106
3 weeks ago
its a Smith and Wesson model 586. .357 magnum.
EricNeoMatrix
#1458162
3 weeks ago
Gun arguement threads ftw?
Anonymous
#1458856
3 weeks ago
@Epic

I meant they are big. You don't usually walk with one of them in our pocket... and the trunk of the car doesn't help much.

That last part was aimed more... higher level criminals, if you will. Like bank robbers. You won't see a man with body armor and an assault rifle stealing from people from the street. That is why I stand that civilian doesn't need big guns. You won't be attacked by a minigun for example... unless you are pretty rich. But then you would also have bodyguards and all the security stuff.

Taking a city, if you were mugged, for example, the range wouldn't matter much. It would be far easier to just get a pistol. Alas it would be pretty hard for the person don't see you carrying an assault rifle or combat shotgun.

See why it's cumbersome? It's pretty easy to notice you are carrying it... because it's big. And if the bandit notice you are armed, of course he is going to shoot.

The problem is that you, like most people, are counting in having the iniciative. In a war you are expecting to be attacked by an enemy. Do you walk the street ready, every second in case something happens? Unless your neighboorhood is extremely violent, I find it unlikely.

Hum. I didn't know that. But they do make it pretty hard, so it's okay.

My point was not an mugger, but an insult. Do you have the cool head to know how you would react in the anger? That you wouldn't 'fire' without needing too? You say you do, but that kind of self control is hard and really depends on the day. For example, let's suppose someone you liked died, then you lost your job. That things are pretty agravatting, meaning you could lose the head more easily.

Also how would you know if I am going to kill or just try to steal from you? And does it matter: If I seize you, I am going to do whatever you want. You can only act before, not after.
Anonymous
#1459522
3 weeks ago
@856

That's where situational awareness comes in, if as in your scenario you decided to mug or murder me in the street you would be staring at me as you approached, likely hard enough to burn a hole in my head, you would be pale, sweating and likely breathing through the mouth. Since I don't stare at my shoes or bury my nose in an iPhone there's a good chance I would pick up on your intentions and when you decide to draw your weapon what are the chances that you who has likely never had any sort of weapons training can draw faster than someone who owns and regularly trains with a multitude of weapons? And what are the chances you'll have the presence of mind in your adrenalized state to stand back from me instead of stepping up and bringing the weapon into range for a disarm? Firearms are not a magical talisman that scares away bad guys, they're only one part of the tools, training and mindset trinity.
Also, studies have shown that people who regularly carry a firearm are far less likely to break a law and are generally better acquainted with what their local laws actually are.
Pistols are for all day, every day carry. Shotguns and rifles are for home defense, hunting and sport shooting.
Anonymous
#1461161
3 weeks ago
Criminals don't normally have assault rifles? Someone has never been to LA, or the ATL, or east st Louis... I could go in to vast detail about the REAL reason behind the second amendment, but I'll just say it as simple as possible, "people shouldn't be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people" I'm on my phone so I don't really feel like typing any more than that.
Anonymous
#1461184
3 weeks ago
And I forgot, don't live in fantasy land... There IS no such thing as a violent high level criminal in America... Just goons that control goons. They are all the same scum that do the same shit, worthless street thugs... I WISH we could go back to the days of the gentlemen criminals.