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| Saint_Braeburn #1450722 1 month ago |
What if..........we gave the fluffy pony abusers there own -booru site? |
| Saint_Braeburn #1450725 1 month ago |
But, I will admit the gleeful sadism that has bee shown to an animal that is basically on the same IQ level as a puppy, is slightly creepy the more you think about it. |
| liquidXTC #1450731 1 month ago |
I agree with OP, yet I feel the sudden urge to slap him with a dictionary.
Also, it gets really scary if the stroies are based on actual animal abuse. For example there was a story about a fluffy pony getting a firecracker in his mouth. Sounds funny, right? Until you see this: http://forums.bad-dragon.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=13495&p=585001 |
| I_Like_Your_Mane #1450733 1 month ago |
>What if..........we gave the fluffy pony abusers there own -booru site?
Look at their disaster of a tumblr site. Do they even have the intelligence to run anything? |
| Anonymous #1450736 1 month ago |
725: Youdon'tsay.jpg Still, I wouldn't write off all the Artists and writers of Fluffy Pony material and it wasn't fair of Me to make it sound that way. Some of them do produce it as an artistic statement rather then just for the sake of Trolling and Sadism. If any of them would be interested in lending their talents purposefully to such a campaign; it would be most welcome. |
| Anonymous #1450744 1 month ago |
731: A lot of the breeder stories have a basis in fact. There's even a parallel with something called Premarin. http://www.equineadvocates.org/issueDetail.php?recordID=5 |
| Ferrotter #1450746 1 month ago |
You know what this is? It's The Three Stooges, right? The Three Stooges are effectively a representation of every human who suffers abuse in the real world. There are humans all over our world suffering the depredations of emotionally damaged dictators, theocrats, and criminals, just as horribly as The Three Stooges do at each others' empathy-lacking hands. The Three Stooges should love each other unconditionally. Every "Moe" among us should find a new balance between the needs of Moe, and the needs of Larry and Shemp, or Larry and Curly, or even Larry and Curly Joe. Moe has no reason not to, except his selfishness and lack of vision. The Three Stooges may have been created to troll humanity, but those of us who really love people can use their work as a gift. The myriad Three Stooges movies and shorts can be used to give an image to the suffering of the human victims of abuse in Rwanda, in Syria, in the cartel wars of Mexico. Let's take the ugliness of Moe poking Larry in the eyes and turn it into something positive. Let's let every Nigerian girl whose genitals are mutilated with a broken glass bottle under unsanitary conditions know that we are thinking of her every time Curly turns around with a board on his shoulder and clops the other two in the face. We can take the ugliness of Three Stooges Abuse Trolling and turn it towards something positive.
The sad part is, other than the stupidity of attributing fluffy ponies to trolling and emotional damage rather than slapstick dark comedy, you had some good points in there. Pity you had to ruin it. |
| Cgeta #1450748 1 month ago |
Fluffy pony abuse shouldn't be used as a bad example. I like this sort of stuff, even when I can't kill a fly IRL.
Actually the fluffy pony abuse helps channeling those feelings to something virtual. Thats the same as video game cruelty potential. Because of this the fluffies are made and meant to be hated. They are always depicted to do everything to piss someone off. And even in the stories they are shown to be not from natural origin. Real animals don't have that. They are truly innocent without any creator behind them. |
| The_Mungoman #1450749 1 month ago |
I agree with OP as well. On the whole, fluffies are like fluffy baby kittens with vocal chords.
Whilst I enjoy the stories where they die due to some idiotic accident etc., abuse is neither funny nor entertaining. Oh, and ib4 Appleloosa's moronic justifying. |
| Ferrotter #1450750 1 month ago |
^Anon736: If you're the OP, then perhaps we have even more to agree about than you made it sound before. |
| I_Like_Your_Mane #1450754 1 month ago |
> trolling and emotional damage
It's because a ton of them come across that way. And then there's that one idiot who goes "HURR FURRIEZ ARE THIS WAY ONLY. HUGFAGZZZ" That is trolling. |
| Anonymous #1450760 1 month ago |
746: A World where abuse of Animals is not tolerated is one where abuse of Human's is not tolerated either. We are Animals too after all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6fe6VBG3e0 |
| andrewmyles #1450804 1 month ago |
Oh no! It's my only weakness! GIANT WALL OF TEXT! AAAAH! |
| eleven #1450822 1 month ago |
I'd consider it a triumph of the Fluffy Pony abuse community to get to someone enough to inspire them to make something this yawn inducing |
| Anonymous #1450877 1 month ago |
The fuck ? Not the place for moral outrage bro. More of a place fore dick and fart jokes |
| Tabula_Rojo #1450890 1 month ago |
Yeah IRL horses really do get shafted these days
also generally Fluffy Pony stories are not used as trolling |
| Anonymous #1450915 1 month ago |
For example there was a story about a fluffy pony getting a firecracker in his mouth. ...I want to hug my Dog, now. ;^; Anyhow, I agree with this. We should atleast make something useful out of, for lack of a better term, a cess-pool (if I spelt that correctly) of the Brony fandom. |
| Anonymous #1450916 1 month ago |
inb4: Applelooser (aka retarded faggot), ginger_fag or deathproofpony |
| Anonymous #1450935 1 month ago |
I think the problem is fluffy ponies have gone to dark humour to a group of crazed writing of a group of sadistic writers who see any story where a fluffy is happy or doing anything positive as a boring shit who's writer deserves to be called names and harrassed until they too write a story where a fluffy gets killed for something insignificant like pooping on the floor. (there needs to be a story where a fluffy and a baby both poop on the floor, if only to see how the abusefags warped mind would react.)
...The main problem is, when I see a fluffy and her babies being killed for being too noisy, and the comments say she deserved it, I can't tell if it's extremely dark humour or if the anons genuinely desire something to violate legally with a single flimsy justifcation. |
| nasir6r #1450986 1 month ago |
Well, I mean, I just made a fluffy pony story. I like it when they're abused, I also like them when they're loved. I like them when they kill one another, I like them when they die of their own stupidity. I like it when they die alone, cold and forgotten, or being held by a loving, heart-broken owner.
I'll admit, I get a wee little thrill from reading and writing abuse fics, but they also made me think very critically about puppy mills and various stray animals. Unlike animals, though, Fluffy Ponies are fictional. No one here cries when the critters from "Happy Tree Friends" die horribly, do they? If you do, you are very soft-hearted and probably should really put personal restrictions on what you watch. If you get your yuks from real animals being butchered while crying in dismay and pain, then there is something wrong with you and you may wish to get yourself checked out. Fluffy ponies can be a safe way to feel glee at something moronically sweet and stupid getting it's shit ruined, and be a safe way to have sympathy for a creature in dire straights (ginger_fig's despair filled stories for example) without stomping the christ out of a kitten or torturing yourself with PETA documentaries and endless stories of real-life abuse. Like I said- due to the Martini stories, I now wonder about puppy mills and breeding programs, whereas before I didn't. So, say whatever you want, whether you agree or disagree or think I'm justifying or a faggot, some good has come from both abusefics and wuvfics for me. inb4 tl;dr |
| Anonymous #1451361 1 month ago |
People actually read all that?
Y'all are braver souls than I. TL;DR |
| Ferrotter #1451397 1 month ago |
@Anon 0935: The reason for that is most of the stories where fluffies are happy actually ARE boring shit. There have been some good ones. So most, not all. But most. And there has been crap on the abuse side too. It's just less frequent, and usually less egregiously bad even when it's bad. The abuse fics tend to be much better STORIES!
A big part of that is that good writing involves conflict and story progression. Look at the best eps of FiM. I adore Rainbow Dash. Rainbow Dash is #1 Best Pony. And "Sonic Rainboom" is #1 Best Episode in my opinion. (Dash being #1 Best Pony is fact, not just my opinion. ;-) How does "Sonic Rainboom" go for her? She goes from frustrated, to nervous, to crashing into Twilight's tree, to more nervous, to a shivering wreck curled up in a ball, to a miserable failure in front of her friends and all of Cloudsdale. And Rarity (#4 Best Pony at present) nearly dies and nearly takes the Wonderbolts with her. It's only at the very end where Rainbow Dash finally gets it together (because she HAS TO for someone other than herself) and that anything actually goes right for her. My favorite episode is about, through all but the last few minutes, the increasingly terrible suffering of my favorite pony. Because it HAS TO be that way! There's NO STORY if it isn't that way! "Hurricane Fluttershy" (#2 Best Ep) and "Dragonshy" are about the pained suffering of Fluttershy, frequently coming to impose pained suffering on others (and mostly on Rainbow Dash); "Lesson Zero" and "Feeling Pinkie Keen" are about Twilight Sparkle suffering; "Applebuck Season" is about Applejack's suffering through her own hubris rubbing off on all the other ponies (never more hilariously than with the Baked Bads); need I go on? (Pinkie Pie's suffering in "The Last Roundup" is different; that really is toilet torture porn. Derpy's and Dash's, Applejack's, and in the end Rarity's suffering is more suffering exactly.) Luna spends nearly all of "Luna Eclipsed" in repeated miserable fails. And the CMCs' whole existence is to suffer repeated failures to get their cutie marks. My point, other than that there's a fuck-ton of wonderful MLP:FiM episodes too numerous to recount, is that they are all about comedic suffering of characters I actually love. Because you NEED that for a story in most cases. It is EXTREMELY hard to have a story where that isn't the case, especially a funny story. "I woke up, had breakfast, shuffled papers at work, had dinner, and went to bed," isn't much of a story. "I woke up, found my daughter missing and a ransom note on her pillow, then used my mad ninja skills to track down her abductors and murder them one by one until I rescued her," is a hokey story, but it's a story. When hugboxers painfully deny themselves most of the possible avenues to move a story ahead, they essentially set themselves up to fail. It's a credit to some of them that they managed to make readable stories out of it anyway on occasion. And making a humorous story is even harder without violence. Humor is largely a reaction to the mind having to process two different emotions at once and failing. Something happening that's totally out of proportion to what sets it of is classic humor. Something truly horrible happening but causing a disproportonately small reaction is practically the definition of dark humor. Daffy Duck getting called to the Principal's office after a fight with Bugs Bunny, to be sadly berated by the Principal about where his future is going is possibly a story, but it's not a funny story. Daffy Duck getting his beak shot off after arguing with Bugs about what hunting season it is, on the other hoof, is one of the most classically hilarious things ever. But there's a limit to what can be done about that with actual MLP:FiM characters and still have it be funny. "One dead baby in two garbage cans" may be funnier than two dead babies in one garbage can, but it's not so funny if it's your own baby. It has to be an anonymous baby, but it is a classic joke. A fluffy owner coming home to a spot of crap on the rug, and punishing the fluffy pony ridiculously harshly is classic humor; accidentally killing the fluffy pony with the punishment and then only reacting with a shrug and "gotta find a few quarters in the couch cushions so I can go adopt another one" means the fun is doubled! So, the abuse fics tend to have a story arc. Things usually happen. The story usually progresses. And the things that happen are "Happy Tree Friends" level realistic in most cases. In other words, over the top and classically cartoonish. And funny! Seriously, a Smarty Friend gets a broom shoved up his asshole out of view, then out his chest where they see, and his whole herd thinks they're trapped in a sequel to Aliens and kills themselves in a panic of slapstick pratfalls? The Fluffy Ponies themselves are just idiotic foils to make moments like that possible. They're not representations of real animals, nor children; they're just cheap and disposable for a laugh. Or dumb when needed to move the story along, like when Red made poopies in Peanut's perfect wooden box home and ruined it so he couldn't sleep there any more. Could you see that story arc with Pinkie Pie taking a dump in Rarity's shop, causing them to have to find a new shop for her to move her dressmaking business to? It only works with fluffy ponies. Fluffy Ponies aren't real. They're not even as real as MLP:FiM characters. They are created to be disposable as needed to make stories flow, or to make visual punchlines happen. Or to be a small safety fence to give a bit of needed distance for a real look at suffering, like Martini or a lot of Ginger_Fig's characters. They don't represent real animals. Or children. They represent fluffy ponies. The story arcs sometimes represent real-world things, with a twist of humor to make them more palatable to read, as they expose the underlying truth. As several have pointed out, the Martini stories do fairly accurately represent puppy mills, if you ignore the fluffy-specific in-jokes. Dark humor too is a natural way to survive in a world where bad things really do happen outside your control. So if you need to face that world, face it laughing. |
| Anonymous #1451442 1 month ago |
@nasir6r- Why in the hell would someone want to feel glee at suffering? That's my issue |
| Anonymous #1452239 1 month ago |
@1442
It's a natural thing in most people, to some extent. It forms the basis for most of comedy, especially slapstick. The best word to describe it is probably schadenfreude, a German term for taking pleasure at someone else's misery. >In b4 "wow, that is German" |
| Anonymous #1452265 1 month ago |
tl;dr. Something about serious business, that's about as far as I got. |
| Anonymous #1452423 1 month ago |
I happen to consider slapstick funny because the victim is not actually suffering in the way the scene suggests they would |
| nasir6r #1452527 1 month ago |
@1442
Same reason why people blow shit up and butcher fictional people in videogames. |
| brony_in_denial #1453082 1 month ago |
@Saint Braeburn
We shall call it One Fluffy Place. |
| Anonymous #1453116 1 month ago |
tl;dr
butthurt moralfag needs to go somewhere else fluffy pony abuse authors are nobody's personal army |
| makr #1453128 1 month ago |
>affective
Stopped reading there. |
| Anonymous #1453497 1 month ago |
I'm tired of all this fucking high horsing and white knighting going around. I can't explain why all abysses like abuse FICA nor can I do the same for hug boxers. What I cab do is say that what people do or write about on the Internet is often very different from what they do IRL. I love my cat but just because I liked a story where a smarty friend got the shit kicked out of him doesn't mean I skin dogs alive like some serial killer. Just because I enjoyed a story where a fluffy didn't die or get tortured also doesn't mean I'm some douche sticking my nose I your fun. Grimderp and mindless luv stories are both pretty shitty, but this is true of everything ever; there's more shit than golden nuggets. I'm not opposed to raising awareness of animal rights issues I don't seem to think that the OP understands that fluffies we designed to incredibly stupid. Abusers seem to more have a problem with stupidity / incompetence than animals or small children. |
| Anonymous #1453500 1 month ago |
Fics*
Fucking iPhone autocorrect |
| doomboy536 #1453964 1 month ago |
This is the most tl;dr I've ever seen here |
| Anonymous #1455874 3 weeks ago |
it was so long, i scrolled down to look for a tldr in the comments but all the comments were long
Get your shit together, guys. |
| I_Like_Your_Mane #1458675 3 weeks ago |
Ferrotter, you are giving this retarded meme too much credit. Go outside and take a breath. |
| Dramatic_spoon #1458740 3 weeks ago |
Haven't we gone through this before? |
| Anonymous #1460878 3 weeks ago |
397: I completely disagree, good Fluffy Pony stories are balanced, it's like you are polarizing the Definitions just for the sake of having an argument.
Here's a traditional Swedish ballad about two Dwarves being ambushed by Trolls and cutting them all down with their Axes in a Berserker frenzy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLT7N7pOEXI&feature=related |