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Lium
#1316896
2 months ago
I'm fairly certain it was mentioned soemwhere before The Return of Harmony that Discord was behind NMM.
NightJack
#1316903
2 months ago
@Lium: Oh ya, I remember that, it was a FAN THEORY.
BattleGT
#1316904
2 months ago
^ No that was speculation
BattleGT
#1316906
2 months ago
NINJA'D By a Second
Classy
#1316914
2 months ago
Lium
#1316916
2 months ago
...Are you sure? I'm almost positive it was something said by Faust.

But then again it was over 8 months ago.
NightJack
#1316921
2 months ago
@BattleGT: More like ninja'd by a crazy system, I saw your comment on here before I put mine...
FireEel
#1316924
2 months ago
Can anyone find the original post by Lauren Faust where she mentioned about the origins of Nightmare Moon?
Anonymous
#1316925
2 months ago
Actually I was fairly certain it was possession, before I saw the real Cadence, because of the Green Eye flash at the end of the first part.
Rhino
#1316928
2 months ago
NMN was good,
She had no idea that eternal night would destroy the world.

It was more like ignorance fueled by passion.

Watch her final reaction towards Twilight.
pPure shock.
FireEel
#1316930
2 months ago
@Lium: And I am absolutely certain Faust never claimed Discord behind the creation of NMM. It was a fan theory.
BattleGT
#1316933
2 months ago
No she never said anything about Discord having to do with Nightmare Moon.
Rhino
#1316939
2 months ago
Ah lousy typo, no way I'm puttind this huge sandwich down!
NightJack
#1316942
2 months ago
Lium, it was someone asking Faust if Discord was behind it, she said that at that point she had no say in the shows canon anymore but thought it was an interesting idea, so not canon at all.
Classy
#1316961
2 months ago
This Classy individual believed that it was obvious that Nightmare Moon was merely Luna going haywire, forcing Celestia to lock her in the moon until a way to bring her back from her state was available. Was it not claimed previously in Return of Harmony that they defeated Discord together, claiming Equestria from his reign of terror?

I had no idea Discord had long-range mental powers from being imprisoned in stone to force Luna into madness. Truly, a most formidable opponent... I say!
Lium
#1316965
2 months ago
Okay, okay, I heard you the first time.
FireEel
#1316970
2 months ago
@925: Yeah I get why you would think that. It was a very sinister moment with Cadance seemingly acting all evil for no reason and having a green eye-flash reminiscent of Nightmare Moon's.
NightJack
#1316973
2 months ago
@Classy
FireEel
#1316985
2 months ago
@Classy: 2 theories. ASSUMING Hasbro goes the Discord route to explain NMM.

1) Discord was subtly affecting Luna despite being petrified, just like how he affected the CMC into arguing at the start.

2) Before his banishment, Discord probably put doubts into Luna's mind. Doubts which fed on her desire and jealousy and eventually caused her to turn into NMM.
Bronyboy
#1316994
2 months ago
It is possible that while Nightmare Moon was not a spirit that possessed Luna, it is the remains of the darkness that was inside of Luna. It's not illogical to think that such a being could possess someone.
Takuto_Shindou
#1316998
2 months ago
Did people really thought that?
I always saw nightmare moon as a split personality of luna,like ken and the digimon emperor,it doesn't have any fucking thing with possession,what the fuck??
NightJack
#1317010
2 months ago
@FireEel: Umm.. "just like how he affected the CMC into arguing" That is just speculation, it's just as likely it was just the CMC being the CMC.
BattleGT
#1317011
2 months ago
just like how he affected the CMC into arguing at the start.

What?
FireEel
#1317017
2 months ago
@998: Actually this possession theory has been going on for a long time, and is very popular. I guess it stems from a misunderstanding of Lauren's original words, a desire to see NMM make a return in some form, and/or lastly to have Luna being innocent and kind all along.
NightJack
#1317018
2 months ago
Really people, stop using fan speculation as canon.
FireEel
#1317022
2 months ago
@Nightjack & BattleGT: Er...never mind. It's just another theory. We can discuss that in another thread.
Takuto_Shindou
#1317033
2 months ago
@FireEel I'm a recent brony so i never heard about that theory,but by the logic in the show i don't see why would people think that..
NightJack
#1317036
2 months ago
@Takuto_Shindou: Actually the digimon emperor was sort of a possessed Ken, the "dark spore" that was put in him influenced him to do that but was removed later and he was completely free.
FireEel
#1317046
2 months ago
@Shindou: Welcome to the herd.
Classy
#1317054
2 months ago
@Nightjack: Indubitably, indeed!

@FireEel: Both are fair enough assumptions. However, if Discord had the power to influence the CMCs, then why did he not do it with others, previously? If escaping his prison was something so simple for him, then surely he could have escaped much sooner than when he actually did.

Luna, like any other character in this show, is prone to emotions and sadness. It is unknown for how long exactly did she resent the fact no one enjoyed the beauty of her night, and eventually flipped the table in frustration. It happens with the best of us, does it not? Claiming Luna was innocent all along is wishfu thinking, but... 'Tis my own opinion, no less.
Impious
#1317112
2 months ago
I always though that her jealousy and rage were what allowed her to be possessed by whatever that miasma thing was.

You have to let the devil in.
FireEel
#1317169
2 months ago
@Impious: Problem is there was no miasma-thing. It was Luna being turned by dark magic, which in turn was due to her jealousy.
Takuto_Shindou
#1317170
2 months ago
@NightJack Wow,a 02 fan?Not easy to find a person that likes this season :)
I think ken already had darkness inside him because of his brother,the dark spores only made that grow stronger and bigger.
Like luna,her hate grew up and turned into darkness,so she became nightmare moon,i think they both kinda did that by their own,not because of someone else.
Impious
#1317196
2 months ago
Well, even still, it's symbolic. Sure, yeah, there's no excuse for what she did, but her emotions were so out of control that she wasn't able to control said dark magic. Hence, letting the devil in. Power corrupts, and it got to the point where she was basically a completely different entity.
NightJack
#1317199
2 months ago
@Takuto_Shindou: Heck ya I'm a digimon fan, I had one of the original virtual pets too,
marioandsonic
#1317254
2 months ago
I always thought NMM was Luna possessed by...THE SMOOZE!
Psyga315
#1318647
2 months ago
I like how a chunk of the comments is about Digimon. :P
Mugen_Kagemaru
#1320756
2 months ago

Troll tag removed.

Anonymous
#1322550
2 months ago
Here's what I believe: Nightmare Moon is a manifestation of Luna's anger and jealousy and Tirek's hatred and dark powers.