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Giant_Neckbeard
#1259340
3 months ago
This is just .... you torture a mother and her children to death because they got dirt and poop in your kitchen?
Anonymous
#1259341
3 months ago
Clap, clap, clap.
This is wonderfull.
Anonymous
#1259344
3 months ago
Giant_Neckbeard.
Grow a pair, they aren't real.
And even if they were real, they are vermin, like rats.
Anonymous
#1259355
3 months ago
@#1259344

Talking vermin with a mildly reduced communication barrier to be precise.
CletusDugumphry
#1259359
3 months ago
Can someone put this into textform and link me to it? The image is all blurry, iven on my tablet.
The_Mungoman
#1259360
3 months ago
Evil, evil, evil.

Who in their right mind would enjoy this kind of psychological torture? There is a reason for this bastardly behaviour, but it is so lowly and so crude, it is utterly unenjoyable. Well, at least for me it is.

If people really thought like that, there would be no pets and no children. they would have all had their tounges torn out and been crucified.
CletusDugumphry
#1259361
3 months ago
*even
Giant_Neckbeard
#1259367
3 months ago
I would have thrown the female and the fillies into the dog cage, stick them outside for the night, release them in the morning and tell them to clear off.

Shove something in the hole in the fence.

Make sure doggy door is wired shut.

Thank <Insert Deity Of Choice Here> that it was only Fluffy Ponies, and not a damn Robbery-In-Progress.
Anonymous
#1259383
3 months ago
@The_Mungoman

You're focusing too much upon the cruelty. If you want to enjoy this sort of thing you either have to like it when it's cruel or find something else in it you enjoy.

In this case I enjoy these stories more as the exploration of a fictional species behavior. The owner often exists to put the standard Fluffy Pony in a situation which we may see how it reacts.

In this case and several others we can see their motherly instincts aren't too strong and can be overwhelmed without too much difficulty.
The_Mungoman
#1259397
3 months ago
@Anon383 I disagree, but only slightly.

In a way, you're right, it is an interesting dip into a species psyche. But then again, I don't think humans would act that different, it just depends on the indiviual's willpower and character strength.
Also, as I've said before, the reason for this is stupid, cruel and inhuman.
People keep arguing these things are vermin, but does that justify the malignity they show towards them in these stories? No. No, it doesn't.

In a way, these stories are more of an analysis of the author's character than the fictional character's personality. What would you be willing to do, if you were in this kind of scenario? Do you show it as humourously tounge-in-cheek or as grittily realistic? Do you take these creature's fate seriously or do you see the humour behind their extreme fragility?

Am I reading way too much into this?
Why, yes. Yes, I am.
Anonymous
#1259406
3 months ago
The_Mungoman.
Inhuman?
There aren't human.
And cruel?
Bah, science cares not for your emotions.
From this be have learnt that Fluffy mothers have a low atttachment to their kids.
Anonymous
#1259413
3 months ago
@9383
So, basically, you're saying that since she was too starved to think straight her motherly instincts weren't strong?
Sir, if this is something to "enjoy", let me say that I'd rather drop enjoyment from my life, because that is the same attitude of kids that dump kittens in boiling water or light puppies on fire.

Speaking of which, I'm amazed that nobody has yet forked out the "abominations of science" bullcrap that is usually used to justify fluffabuse. Frankly, I wonder if the ones who use that concept would like to travel to Russia to kill domesticated grey foxes or to Japan to murder glow-in-the-dark kitties, since they're "abominations" as well.
The_Mungoman
#1259414
3 months ago
^You mean the guy who had the foals drowned and the mother starved wasn't human?
What else was he, Klingon?!

Also, science is treated like God lately. There is a border of knowing when to take risks and when to be ethical.
This wasn't science, it was torture and you can't deny it. If anyone did that to a human mother and child and said he did it in the name of science he would be publically stoned.
Sorry, but your argument is invalid. And moronic.
The_Mungoman
#1259416
3 months ago
^I meant 9406 with that.
Rodman
#1259418
3 months ago
^Silly Mungoman, obviously the house-owner was an Oblivion-spawned Daedra!
Anonymous
#1259419
3 months ago
@The_Mungoman
Actually, a Klingon wouldn't have debased himself with cold blood killing. There's no honor in that.
Anonymous
#1259421
3 months ago
Once again, well done, Appleloosa.
Anonymous
#1259426
3 months ago
@The_Mungoman

For me the abuser always seems to be operating upon the concept that these things are smarter and more self-aware then they actually are and for some perverse reason believes they should be punished.

Their instinctive speech seems to create the illusion of a being with a unique personality and high degree of awareness when it really just means you can communicate with them on the basic level they're capable of. Fluffy Ponies don't really seem to have unique personalities other then minor variation.

So in my mind they aren't conscious enough of their own actions to punished for them. To be put down as pests or vermin is acceptable, but you wouldn't do something so elaborate to a rat mother would you? You would just get the shovel and bash its brains in like any decent human would or if you were more concerned with animals you would put gloves on and throw it out.

But then again the lowered communication barrier probably makes things easier to psychologically torture.

One thing I like about these stories is when the animal nature is emphasized. In many stories with talking animals or people able to understand them they are seen to speak as eloquently as humans, a significant flaw in my mind.

Even if you could understand an animal perfectly I doubt it would have any special wisdom for you, just an expression of simple concepts like hunger, anger, and telling you to go away or play. It wouldn't be able to understand very much because as we all know most animals aren't wired for complex communication and don't need a very large "vocabulary" to express what little they need to.

Which is why I like Fluffy Ponies. They're talking animals that show perfectly that an animal wouldn't say anything particularly intelligent even if it could talk and would just express simple concepts.

Which reminds me of a Farside comic where a scientist invented a dog translator only to discover that their language was as simple as it appeared, with everything translated as "Hey!".
Anonymous
#1259433
3 months ago
That doesn't excuse this from just being another snuff-fic. These USED to be good when it was the fluffys fault for being Too Dumb To Live, but all these fucking fluffy stories are just about sadism now, an outlet for the writer to get some sick fantasy in writing to share his amazing vision with the internet.
Anonymous
#1259434
3 months ago
@9433
Hear, hear.
Anonymous
#1259435
3 months ago
@426

The_Mungoman
#1259446
3 months ago
@9426 Perfect analysis, right there.

The utter innocence animals and very small children show is what makes these fictional creatures so sympathetic to me. It is also this exact same reason why I dislike the bloodthirst they envoke in people.
I can stand the stories where they die grittily in a large, gory accident just fine, if they are creative and written well. But the abuse is where the threshold is crossed.
That's just my personal taste, but I think I share my opinon with many others.
Anonymous
#1259449
3 months ago
@The_Mungoman
Couldn't have said it better. Bravo, sir.
Anonymous
#1259452
3 months ago
@#1259413

I am well aware that this is fictional. I am perfectly fine with non-existent interchangeable entities being tortured. It is in error to compare them to real animals who would actually be harmed by acts of cruelty.

And instincts aren't about thinking straight. If her instinctive drive to eat overpowered her motherly instincts then that is what occurred. Still she was a better mother then several others in Fluffy stories.

And surprisingly she never forgot what would happen to her babies and even apologized as she went for the food which means that for a Fluffy Pony she was thinking quite straight.
Anonymous
#1259461
3 months ago
Bah, you don't know what you're talking about. The explanation for these kind of stories is extremely simple. Fluffy snuff is best stuff.
The_Mungoman
#1259466
3 months ago
@9452 No. Just... no.
Of course, a fictional character doesn't have much influence on the real world, apart of its affects on the reader. But that doesn't change the fact that these stories were apparently written out of pure spite and cynicism.
I can sort of understand the idea that it is satisfying to destroy something innocent and cute, but it still is sickeningly morbid without humour, without reason.
Look at movies like Brazil and Perfume: The Story of a Murderer, for instance. Terrible and morally disgusting things happen in these stories. BUT THEY ARE REASONED. They attempt to criticize humanity and society and manage that very well. The torture, the murder that happens in these works of fiction may be morally lacking, but that's not what they are about; they are about the idea behind it.
But this... it is idiotic, malicious, sardonic and venomous. It is abuse just for abuse and nothing more, and it should not be treated like something more. It is unentertaing to a healthy mind.
Appleloosa
#1259467
3 months ago
@1259421

Thanks, I appreciate the constructive comments.

Since I write only once in a while, I like to put some deep thoughts into my stories..

Writting these I discovered that my area is definitely the psychological punishment (or abuse if you will).

Also, all...the...butthurt!

Anonymous
#1259471
3 months ago
@The_Mungoman

And as I stated before the abuse isn't the important part, at least not in my mind.

I don't necessarily see innocence in an animals behavior, I just recognize they can't be held to standards far beyond their comprehension. This isn't about sympathy or innocence, it's more that to treat them like this is senselessly cruel and serves no purpose.

It's a bizarre mix of being treated human enough to deserve punishment but not human enough for restrictions to be placed upon that very same punishment. But it's fiction and I simply view that as how these rather insane human abusers work, and no animal was harmed in writing these so it matters not.
The_Mungoman
#1259472
3 months ago
^I will admit that the Nostalgi Critic gif made me chuckle. The next time, reason the abuse better.

It might result in a way, WAAAAAAY more enjoyable read.
Anonymous
#1259474
3 months ago
I will just say this: If you watch a movie like Hostel, and instead of being shocked or disgusting you find it funny, there is something wrong with you. Fictional or not.
The_Mungoman
#1259475
3 months ago
^Aaaand again, I meant Appleloosa with this. I apologize.
Appleloosa
#1259482
3 months ago
@1259472

I thought I exprressed the reasons very clearly, the fluffy ponies invaded the guys home, broke things, soiled his kitchen floor, demanded that he left his own house and than attacked him.

If that's not enough reason for you, I think you should stick to "happly ever after" stories.

Also, luvfags trying to find logic in every abuse story is a kind of pain in the ass...

Anonymous
#1259483
3 months ago
More like hearthurt

:(
Appleloosa
#1259484
3 months ago
*guy's *then
The_Mungoman
#1259494
3 months ago
@Appleloosa 82 Is that really a good reason? Nope.

I'm just sayin', psychological abuse can be very enyjoyable in fiction. Reason. It.
I swear, it'll turn out better. I don't say this as a hater or a "luvfag" as you call it, but as a critic who sees potential in your writing. You can do something great with this, but you need to think about it first.
Anonymous
#1259499
3 months ago
@The_Mungoman

And what can I say against spite or cynicism? These stories often have some appeal even if it's in how much you disagree with them.

And yes, it's abuse for the sake of abuse. Something I've never praised about the story as I agree that these things deserve better reasons.

But as things stand I couldn't give a flying feather about a fictional animals with a personality identical to every other one of its kind. One Fluffy Pony is the same as another and they aren't characters I have any emotional investment in.

I don't enjoy their torture anymore then I enjoy a slight itch on my forehead.

What interests me more is the development of the Fluffy Pony concept which now includes mothers when before they all just fluffsploded, as well as the oddly increasing intelligence and organization as of late.

It's like watching evolution in the process, only through "intelligent" design.
Anonymous
#1259508
3 months ago
@Appleloosa

There is never a good reason.

Have you ever watched The Devil Rejects? The three main characters were psychopaths, pure monsters who killed and tortured a lot of people for fun. They clearly deserved any hell they would get.

When the sheriff starts torturing them at the end of the film, people started cheering for him. But then... people started to get irked by his deeds, wishing him to just arrest them or finally kill them.

If people could feel pity and compassion about satanic psychopath killers, why shouldn't they feel about fluffy ponies?
Appleloosa
#1259510
3 months ago
@The_Mungoman

I might jump into abuse a little too early in my stories without a proper motive development and character development. Since that's only my second OC, I can work to improve that.

Well, I guess in the end of the day I should be thanking you too.
The_Mungoman
#1259516
3 months ago
@499 I respect your opinion and think it is reasoned very well.

In contrast to SOMETHING ELSE in this damned thread -.-
Appleloosa
#1259521
3 months ago
@1259508

You're overthinking about it at this point. My point was never to create a good introductionary environment for both motive and characters, but for the psychological punishment itself.

If you rather read something where the abuse is completely justified, I guess there's not a lot of abuse stories for you.

Then again, IMO the abuse is somewhat justifiable in this story.
The_Mungoman
#1259522
3 months ago
@Appleloosa You're welcome ;D
Anonymous
#1259526
3 months ago
@Apple

No, no. You got it completely wrong.

My point was that abuse is never justified. Not against psychopaths, not against terrorists and mostly not against flufflies.

Abuse only happens because someone wants to inflict it.
Anonymous
#1259528
3 months ago
Fluffy pony abuse is a good thing, and I want to read more of it, no matter how much other posters get riled up.
Mezzo
#1259538
3 months ago
^Fluffy pony abuse is never a good thing.
The_Mungoman
#1259540
3 months ago
@528 Haha, it's funny, 'cause he's emotionally dead.
Anonymous
#1259541
3 months ago
@9528
You, my friend, make me want to send three goats your way, one small, one medium and one huge. Maybe they'll be able to send you back under your bridge.
Anonymous
#1259544
3 months ago
Riling up other posters (aka trolling) is a good thing, and I want to read more of it.
Anonymous
#1259549
3 months ago
@544

So you enjoy annoying and bringing grief to other human beings.
Anonymous
#1259552
3 months ago
@9549 I'm sorry for pointing this out, but do you expect from him a better answer than "Duh"?
I have a couple trolls among my acquaintances, and they brag about how they love to make the (luvfags, ponyfags, any of about thirty other terms, choose your favorite) cry, and how they bask in the admiration of their peers (i.e. other trolls).
They have no use for the respect and/or acknowledgement of more calm people. Normal people after all aren't "cool" (read: shit-flinging howler monkeys).
Appleloosa
#1259556
3 months ago
@1259526

Well, our notions of punishment seem to vary. Punishment is necessary for discipline, otherwise people would just keep doing things that are wrong.

Speaking in a general manner of course, killing a fluffy mare and its daughters are not justifiable by what they done in the story. But that's not the focus of the story anyway.

You might write a story without a overreacted punishment. You might. But, punishment of any shape or form is the main premise of the "fluffy_abuse" tag which many people like.
Anonymous
#1259666
3 months ago
@#1259552: Normal people are easy to rile up. Wise people know to never feed a troll. However, there is seldom a wise person.
Anonymous
#1259864
3 months ago
Hi people,i started reading those sotries some 2 weeks ago,and I really love this one.The sad mother because she had to sacrifice her babies was cool,as I didn't knew what was going to happen next,but the next thing,although i considered it as an not very probable option,really surprised me.To take away the food for wich she sacrificed her children,simly BRILLIANT AND ELOCUENT:D I loved it.

For all hater,u stupid faggots,grow some hair around ur balls,those are f**king vermins,they value NOTHING,is as you hipotethically ask a ultra-supperior alien race to spare you when they want to
conquer the planet and add it to the vast empire,simply nonsense,they will kill you anyway.
the humans are supperior to those vermins,so we can do whatever we want with them.I'll say it again,I simply LOVED the ending ,it was brilliant,keep it up,and to the other,no offence but we humans are so evolved that intead of figthing versus other races,we fight among ourselves,because no other creature in this planet can defeat us,so we have the rights of the strongest to do as we please with them(accepting the consequences,obviously,im not a dumb child)

And finally PD:sorrry for horrible grammar,but i know little english :S although i can understand it.again no offence mean to any1
Anonymous
#1259897
3 months ago
Cool story bro. Srsly. Loved how the mare could've sacrificed herself for her foals but didn't, and then got punished for it.

Looking forward to more stories from OP.
Anonymous
#1260029
3 months ago
You know, we stopped goign to sugary shit stories and complaining about how retarded they are. You fluffy lovers could return the favor and stop throwing your butthurt at our abuse stories.
Anonymous
#1260068
3 months ago
@864

I really hope you are trolling. From the poor grammar I will assume yes.
FeralSocks018
#1260342
3 months ago
You get points for creativity. I've seen much worse abuse, so I'll not complain.
Anonymous
#1260401
3 months ago
@0029 no you haven't. Check the "sugary shit" stories, there's always someone complaining about the lack of fluffy bloodshed.
Oh, and I'd never throw my butthurt, it's not aerodinamic enough. I prefer to have it delivered by UPS.
Anonymous
#1261185
3 months ago
YEAH, but... all you... uh... y-you LUV-FAGGOTS!! Haha, yeah... luvfaggots... you're all BUTT HURT!! AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT! BUTT HURT BUTT HURT YOU'RE ALL BUTT HURT!!!!! BUTT HURT FOR THE BUTT HURT GOD! Heh.

Heh. Butt.
Anonymous
#1261204
3 months ago
@1185 That was so epically pathetic it made giggle.
Good job.
Anonymous
#1261752
3 months ago
Just a question for those that enjoy the injury/torture/death/violence/etc. end of the fluffy pony stories:

Why? I mean that as in "why do enjoy reading about doing horrible, painful, and gruesome things to something "living"?

Yes, I know and understand that fluffy ponies are completely fictional, and have no potential for ever actually being a real species or actually existing, but what I'm asking is what provokes the "kill 'em sadistically, with glee" response that the fluffylovers respond so harshly against?

Additional question for people of "pro-death" "pro-kill" mindset:would you have the same reaction if it were regular dogs, cats, fish, birds, or other "pet animals" instead of fluffy ponies?

Additional question for people of the other mindsets: what motivates you to answer the way you do? Why do you respond with knee-jerk fluffy love? Why do you choose to feed the trolls on all side of the issue, or ignore them?

I'm truly interested and curious why each person responds the way they do. Partisanship isn't my aim or interest here, I just want to understand why people are reacting the way they are to this...so please, don't call me a fluffy lover, a fluffy hater, or any form of slur...I'm just hoping to understand why there's this big rift in the community.
Anonymous
#1261776
3 months ago
I enjoy all abuse stories because it's fluffy ponies being abused, killed, tortured, casually kicked around and being unloved. If you want to to find any more reasons for it, you should really do something better with your time. Like for example marry and get a family or something like that.
Anonymous
#1261906
3 months ago
@1261752

Must of the fluffy abuse stories depict them as dumb, selfish, reckless and they're a plague. I'll explain why.

Dumb = they are genetically inbred chimaera creatures, there is, they're stuck between the fields of logic and instinct, failing to master both of them. They have not enough instincs as dogs to survive long on the streets, nor the logic to make good decisions.

Selfish = At first they're considerate creatures that enjoy the company of each other, until the line is crossed between their well being and the well being of their similiars. They'll always choose them at first chance.

Plague = Most stories describe them as rabbit-like reprododuces, they're everywhere, the stray ones will even invade homes and fight themselves for survival. Even if there was a law protecting them, it will be like trying to prevent people to drink.

Reckless = They fathom fear and pain and what causes it, but they have no conception of the implications of their actions, be it to cause harm to themselves and their similiars or to piss off, be inconsiderate or even harm those who took good care of them. If they really want to do something, they'll probably not think twice.

That and many other reasons are more than enought for these creatures to be abused always.
sigh
#1262139
3 months ago
^This Anon is an intelligent Anon.
PanzerKunst
#1357425
2 months ago
>#1261906 Human babies are dumber, more selfish, and more reckless than these fluffies are. You gonna go start killing babies?

Grow a pair, get off ponibooru, and start torturing babies to death. Why settle for text when the real thing can be yours!
Anonymous
#1452400
1 month ago
Wow... That was cruel. I'm not sure if I should applaud or start crying.