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| LorenzoP #1128726 4 months ago |
This is my head canon. |
| Kawa #1128728 4 months ago |
"People?" |
| Anonymous #1128735 4 months ago |
^ he IS the Doctor after all. |
| Anonymous #1128738 4 months ago |
Of course "people".
Whooves wasn't always a pony, y'know. |
| StalkerZHS #1128740 4 months ago |
@kawa
The Dr. is not a "person" or "people" the Doctor is just a Time Lord |
| Anonymous #1128755 4 months ago |
@Kava "People" is plural form of "Person", I.E. Anything with personality. It doesn't reffer to "humans" exclusively, and we could even agree that most cats and some dogs could be considered more in the people than some humans, when this definition is taken to account.
And these ponies have personalities, so, where is the problem? :3 |
| NightJack #1128759 4 months ago |
Oh come on, if anyone would know how yoiu can get away with doing that and nothing bad happens it's him. |
| Putuk #1128763 4 months ago |
Ehrr... I don't get this paradox.
I mean... wouldn't that just cause a little loop or something? Stupid Doc confusing me! |
| Kawa #1128764 4 months ago |
You guys. I put the whole thing around "" for a reason.
"People"? --> me asking the question, as if it's an error. "People?" --> Twilight asking, as if Whooves made a mistake. |
| WesternBirds #1128793 4 months ago |
@Putuk basically it would be impossible for the events of It's About Time to occur because the events that cause Twilight to go back in time cannot occur without Twilight already having learned time travel, meaning in a timeline where Twilight has not naturally learned time travel or been warned by a future sel who has, she doesn't freak out, cut and blind herself, get a new haircut, or learn time travel to begin with. |
| Putuk #1128803 4 months ago |
@WesternBirds: Yes, but cartoon logic! |
| Anonymous #1128806 4 months ago |
BUT THERE ARE ALREADY TIME SPELLS. |
| WesternBirds #1128818 4 months ago |
^ but she would not have even known about it if future twilight did not implicitly tell her where to find it |
| NightJack #1128829 4 months ago |
@WesternBirds: So what, it happens to the Doctor every now and then, look at some of the old specials when you had more then one Doctor having no idea how they get in the same place and time with out even one of them knowing of it at all. |
| WesternBirds #1128853 4 months ago |
^ That doesn't really break it unless one of them deliberately tells the other specific future events. You can exist in the same space and time as a past self, you just can't tell your past self anything that may specifically affect their own timeline. |
| Ichijoe #1128885 4 months ago |
So any Bronies from the UK think that David Tennat should thke that Kids advice and go as Dr. Whoves for that Sport Relief Mile Run thingy instead of a Bottle of Ketchup? |
| UK_Brony #1128888 4 months ago |
Can we just stop arguing and enjoy art please? |
| Vree #1128890 4 months ago |
^That's just your headcanon for how time travel works. Techincally even the air molecules your past self's replacing are creating a paradox somewhere. |
| Vree #1128896 4 months ago |
Anyway, grats for Westernbirds for spotting this paradox. Good comic. |
| WesternBirds #1128911 4 months ago |
Basically I'll use Back to the Future's (if slightly flawed) logic. The reason the events of Back to the Future can exist is because Doc had already essentially "learned" the mechanics of time travel (by scribbling the Flux Capacitor after hitting his head) prior to the point in time Marty went back to. If the sole reason Doc had learned time travel was because He had seen the fully complete DeLorean it would have created a paradox in which Doc would never have been able to build a DeLorean in the first place without having already seen a DeLorean in the past. The easy way to "fix" the events of IAT would be to simple teach Twilight how to time travel prior to her future self coming back in time. That way regardless of future events she has the capacity to start the process by learning time travel already without causing a paradox. |
| Dionysus #1128936 4 months ago |
This ... totally makes sense. |
| NightJack #1128999 4 months ago |
@WesternBirds: Like I said , have you seen them, he can't outright tell him self about it but he can hint at it, like say "look out for purple bird in about two mouths" and it's fine. |
| WesternBirds #1129023 4 months ago |
^ It still isn't the same paradox, The Doctor already knows how to time travel so whatever wacky time shenanigans he gets into the mechanics are there to self correct, as in he always had the capacity to go back in time to start the events to begin with. The paradox is you cannot go back in time to teach yourself time travel, because then the mechanics were never there where you naturally learn how to time travel to start the chain of events that lead you to learning time travel. |
| Anonymous #1129025 4 months ago |
@WesternBirds
It is actually a stable time loop, which could possibly work. |
| NightJack #1129072 4 months ago |
@WesternBirds: No, you don't get how this paradox works, you can't give any info at all, not just info on time travel, if you can give any info at all then telling you past self of time travel won't change anything unless you use it before your future self first did it, Twi did it at the same time it was first done so it's fine. |
| NightJack #1129079 4 months ago |
WesternBirds, if you want to go on about any reason for a paradox, then go on Twi touching her past self, that's far worse then giving your past self any info. |
| Anonymous #1129086 4 months ago |
^Why is that? |
| NightJack #1129095 4 months ago |
@Anon086
Simple, if not in some form of enclosed time thing, touching your self from anothing point in time is basicly.  |
| Anonymous #1129119 4 months ago |
Logically, there is no problem with interacting with your past self unless by doing so you stop yourself from doing it.
Like a grandfather paradox. If you kill your grandfather, you were never born, and therefore never killed your grandfather, and therefore did... |
| Anonymous #1129126 4 months ago |
You mean its like going back in time and fucking your hot grandma when she´s young and thus be the father of your father? |
| WesternBirds #1129130 4 months ago |
Again there is no possible timeline unaffected by time travel in which time travel is learned, in order to create a stable loop you need a timeline zero which can cause the events to occur regardless of outcome. Teaching yourself time travel without having learned time travel NOT learning it from a future self causes a paradox in which you cannot start the chain of events to begin with. Essentially it has no beginning therefore it cannot exist period hence the end of existence. |
| Anonymous #1129142 4 months ago |
However, in the episode, she did learn it from herself, so it is a stable time loop |
| NightJack #1129143 4 months ago |
^ Once again, that's not what happend, Twi was only told where to find the spell for time travel, not taught how to, your just proved your point invalid as Twi still had to go find the spell. |
| Anonymous #1129166 4 months ago |
@NightJack
It is a stable time loop because Twi got a visit from her future self that CAUSED her to find the time travel spell, which caused her to go back in time to complete the loop. |
| NightJack #1129169 4 months ago |
^ I meant that to WesternBirds, I know that's what happened and I accept it. |
| Anonymous #1129174 4 months ago |
sorry |
| Anonymous #1131126 4 months ago |
No loop exists; Twilight went to the library with the explicit purpose of finding a spell to STOP time, not to travel back. Pinkie Pie was the one to discover that. |
| Anonymous #1131369 4 months ago |
Actually all the Paradox loop needed was a trigger event, such as going back for a different reason, that caused it to play out in the exact same way.
The loop isn't endless, as she doesn't travel back in time and stay there and do it again. So its not a problem. |
| Anonymous #1131688 4 months ago |
I love this. While I've never really seen Dr.Who, I have been made aware of the more important aspects, that coupled with my love of time traveling lore; I found this comic delightfully charming. |
| The-Original-Dashie #1132183 4 months ago |
Western birds is right; why would twilight go back in time to warn herself not to panic about her future self, the only reason she panicked was because she went back in time to tell herself not to. The event series has no beginning as therefore can not exist.
But it's a cartoon about magical flying horses; so who cares? |
| The-Original-Dashie #1132184 4 months ago |
And therefore* |
| Anonymous #1132632 4 months ago |
Wait a minute. A paradox is, when it leads to two conclusions that are contradicting each other. That's not the case here. So it's something different. By the way, everytime you go back in time you leave an imprint in the world. So, as long as you don't create a new timeline, the world already was influenced by your future self in the past when you started. The world, including yourself. So while Twilight's case is unusually obvious, a stable time loop always happens when you travel through time (and don't create new timelines). And I don't see any logical problem. It's a flawless chain of action and reaction, just not chronologically. And that's what time travel is all about, isn't it? |
| Bardic_Knowledge #1132951 4 months ago |
Clinical term: Ontological Paradox
Funny term: Bootstrap Paradox My term: ...This is an amusing comic, stop debating temporal physics. |
| -Lunacy #1136660 4 months ago |
The more I think about it the more my brain hurts, and I think of time paradox situations all the time. |
| Shadix #1143384 4 months ago |
here we have Dr. Who fans throwing a bitch fit cause time travel didn't go the way they wanted it to. |