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| PhilSrobeighn #1114789 4 months ago |
Not sure if this or this. |
| nyxabuse #1115338 4 months ago |
i think linking to tvtroeps should be a bannable offence |
| Mattatatta #1115361 4 months ago |
^Because TV Tropes will ruin your life? |
| nyxabuse #1115371 4 months ago |
^partly that
partly because i have a deep, undying hatred for that site it has ruined the abilities of so many would-be writers I know (on the internet), because they start thinking that troeps are in any way meaningful or relevant to actually writing a story |
| Mattatatta #1115430 4 months ago |
^If a writer is going to set out to include certain tropes in their story, then they fail to understand how tropes work. Tropes are meant to be defined AFTER the fact, not before.
Moreover, if they think going bass ackwards is a good idea, then they have no reason to be writing in the first place. |
| nyxabuse #1115485 4 months ago |
^It can be interesting to take note of common themes across different works, and then analyse them. Through this you can determine certain things about the spirit of a time or place, or chart the changes in an artist's body of work.
Unfortunately tvtroeps opts instead to have big lists of 'animes that have angry women in them' or other such asinine nonsense. It offers nothing of critical value - in fact site policy prohibits criticism! It is a shallow website, restricting itself to surface-level stuff. And the site itself does call troeps 'the building blocks of fiction'. It's a mean trick that traps a fair number of young would-be writers into writing-by-numbers - or more likely, into not writing at all, because they are thinking 'oh am i subverting xyz troep'. |
| Mattatatta #1115738 4 months ago |
^I do aspire to write, and I think I have a neat story fermenting in my mind right now (whether I'll try to write with limited skill is unknown). I do later realise that there are some tropes existing in my ideas, but that doesn't motivate me to change the story, or even try to fit certain tropes in.
I reckon that is the problem with some people, they are too conscious of tropes. They do not allow themselves to come up with whatever the hell they want without being frightened of "playing this trope straight" or "inverting this trope". A story is a story, tropes only break it down for easier analysis among readers. The lesson here, I guess, is that if one is writing, they must throw all inhibitions out the window and especially avoid thinking about tropes and just get their ideas down. If one is analysing a work, then using tropes is okay. |
| Ananonymous #1496570 4 days ago |
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