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| Kanrabat #1086844 4 months ago |
Stealing Thedracojayproduction's comic to say something I've been holding up for a while.
Flutterrage is a great spokesmare for that kind of thing! |
| Fronzel #1086876 4 months ago |
I'm ok with this.
PS: Vote Niggertron 2012 |
| pcjoyce #1086879 4 months ago |
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| Arne #1086881 4 months ago |
Nothing wrong with hate. Just as long as you hate the right things for the right reasons. |
| Anonymous #1086888 4 months ago |
All of her fans will become nothing more than mourners unto Sheol when I'm done with her... |
| Anonymous #1086891 4 months ago |
And y'know what? Fluttershy is right.
We should all be ashamed of ourselves. |
| Dark_Horst #1086910 4 months ago |
so i'm not the only one who's been noticing |
| Sonlir #1086922 4 months ago |
Love and Tolerance just means bronies are generally more often passive aggresive rather than raging faggots.
Also i love how the artist does the exact same thing he seemingly "hates" by calling everyone a "bucking hypocrite". As for OC hate... noone really hates OCs. With the exeption of self insert alicorns and other mary sues. |
| Anonymous #1086959 4 months ago |
Nah, this completely neglects the silent lot who still don't give a shit. "Bucking hypocrite", is that some sort of irony? Really, this is just unfair generalizations. |
| Kanrabat #1086965 4 months ago |
Well, "Fluttershy" is honest with "her" own hate. |
| Anonymous #1086967 4 months ago |
I would tag that as FlutterCruel if I can, since her anger reminds me of that. |
| KirbyfanNeox #1086969 4 months ago |
It's funny because it's true.
That, and there was a Rhythm Tengoku reference. |
| Yorec #1086980 4 months ago |
Didn't bother reading but thumbs up for Rhythm Heaven Fever reference. |
| Kanrabat #1087064 4 months ago |
^^
^ The idea came to me when I was trying to resume a normal everyday interview. It was way more fun to do that than just saying "After the interview" or "Ask-answer-ask-answer". Glad I succeed! |
| potatotomato #1087124 4 months ago |
@Sonlir
For some, passive aggressive is way more annoying than aggressive. |
| Anonymous #1087301 4 months ago |
You know what, the love and tolerance bronies were actually there first, but they were overshadowed or taken over by those that don't as other fandoms came into this fandom when it got bigger. Do you know that the original MLP fans were never like this at all? It was actually because they actually were little girls and kids that grew up with the original and were pratcially quiet about it. But ever since G4 came out, all of us from other fandoms pretty much just took over this one, or rather just overshadowed them to the point that they can hardly be heard at all. The ones who freak out so easily are actually part of the other fandoms that do just that when their groups are insulted in the slightest.
To make matters worse, they were probably hurt by our own members. Since most of us come from other fandoms, we also tend to forget that we also bring our hatred against other fandoms (sounds a little redundant doesn't it?). I mean alot of us still harbor hatred against anime fans, furry fans, and others (which may be unnecessary and stupid in my opinion but whatever). It's almost surprising how this show managed to even bring these kind of people together with us, I guess that's what makes the show great that even these guys. I'm not saying that we should blame them since both parts at fault here and doing that right now won't make any difference (especially this post is an edited rant comic). But I would like to say is: people from other fandoms don't get so upset and try to "defend" the brony fandom and the show itself whenever you see a negative opinion about them, it will only make things worse for the rest of us as it has been for your own fandom. You really should just treat this as any other opinion respectfully disagree and accept that there's nothing you could do to change their mind (since they're only going to write you off as a mindless fan). As for others who don't like certain fandoms, don't be angry and try to "shoo" them off whenever they post their art here or even make a post when their favorite comic makes a reference to the show, you really should just ignore them if you hate the associated fandom so much. Also you should be a "little" happy that at least other people are liking this show and not be hateful just because they associate with a fandom you don't like. Just because you may out number the (possibly declining) "love and tolerance" memebers, it doesn't mean you should be spreading hatred against other fandoms coming into this one, since you also will be making this fandom look worse. |
| Anonymous #1087548 4 months ago |
@1087301
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| Anonymous #1087898 4 months ago |
@959 "Also i love how the artist does the exact same thing he seemingly "hates" by calling everyone a "bucking hypocrite"...
Thank you. It always bothers me when people have messages like this, but don't seem to realize how hypocritical they come off. I'm not saying that we as a community have been the best of folks lately, but to create this hateful speech only creates more anger and un-fun things. |
| PickyMcCritical #1087916 4 months ago |
@1087548 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| GreyAcumane #1088196 4 months ago |
@1087301
I did read, and you're fairly accurate. This is going to come across sadly hipster, but the bronies who actually embrace the love and tolerance concept are primarily the ones who liked the show before it got popular. Also, there's no hypocrisy here. Tolerance doesn't require acceptance nor remaining silent when something is wrong, nor having no emotional reaction that involves something you care about. |
| Anonymous #1088236 4 months ago |
@196 No, you don't have to remain silent or accept it, but spewing hate and anger because others are doing it as well, is hypocrisy |
| Kanrabat #1088456 4 months ago |
Seem like a few did not understand that I'm not defending "love and tolerance" here. I'm just pointing out the emptyness of that supposed philosophy our fandom is based on.
Was it that hard to grasp? |
| Anonymous #1088545 4 months ago |
See, the problem is, you do it in a screaming angry manner and using such a kind quiet character to soap-box your ideas and attack the fan-base makes me not want to take what you say seriously.
This entire comic makes you sound just as bad as those you are attacking. Your only furthering the idea that Love and Tolerance is empty by creating this comic |
| Anonymous #1088660 4 months ago |
@1088545 "Your only furthering the idea that Love and Tolerance is empty by creating this comic"
It's not an idea. It's a fact that it is empty. It was originally used as a deterrent against trolls in 4chan's /co/ and /b/. It was never a serious thing. When FiM became popular, the waves of idiots that joined the "brony community" took it as a real ideal that brony's lived up to. Which even though they think it's real, they do the opposite everyday. |
| ChickNeighney #1088664 4 months ago |
I like to call it, "Not being a scumbag douche." :| |
| zralf #1088799 4 months ago |
there is a fundamental difference between "love and tolerance" vs "complacent and passive" |
| Kanrabat #1088838 4 months ago |
It amazed me nobody noticed that Pinkie Pie talk in the (memely hated) Comic Sans MS font. |
| Cerulean #1089036 4 months ago |
"Tolerance" is a word that is only used by people who don't really get what it means to be nice to people. You tolerate (endure, put up with) things that are bad. A bigot's best understanding of how to not be a bigot is "I'm supposed to tolerate your existence even though I know for a fact the world would be better if you were dead." Which is why they are often found insisting that "all you libruls are hypocrites because you're supposed to tolerate ME being an asshole bigot." They don't understand that sensible people are not just tolerating, but accepting; if there is nothing wrong with something, we accept it. We're not just pretending to be okay with people's legitimate differences, we really are okay with them. That's nothing like a promise to tolerate or accept unacceptable behavior.
So you take 4chan, a culture of simplistic belligerence with an unlimited supply of the word "faggot", and get them interested in a TV show because some animation-blog snob said it sucks and that's an opportunity to fight with him. But to tell someone he's wrong, first they have to like the show, and when they have to put aside their macho heteronormative bullshit in order to like the show, they start to grow up a little, sensing that something's missing from their nasty little lives. Kindness. Joy. Good will. They struggle for words, and think, hey, it must be that tolerance shit, maybe there's something to it... And so, the internet stumbles its way out of adolescence clutching a half-formed artifact of its own ignorance, the phrase "love and tolerance", and continues to struggle with its mysteries. |
| moku5 #1089208 4 months ago |
Not a huge fan of the message, but the art style is really cute. Fgsfd |
| GreyAcumane #1097466 4 months ago |
Cerulean, your thought process is one of the most warped (though not uncommon) philosophies I've encountered, and most harmful to the whole "get along" goal. Tolerance does NOT automatically imply hatred, it implies that you do not believe it is the way things should be done.
I have no problems tolerating activities that I don't believe are right, but I don't hate those who choose to engage them, provided they're not causing problems for or attacking others. I have no more reason to hate them than I would someone I see doing a math problem wrong. Now what I do get upset over is when people insist that I have to accept that as a correct answer. By saying things like "sensible people accept, not tolerate" then you are effectively attacking my beliefs through delegitimization, and that IS the type of thing that will evoke an "I will wreck your shit" response from me. |
| Cerulean #1121991 4 months ago |
GreyA: Can you meaningfully define the difference between "activities that I don't believe are right" and "causing problems for or attacking others"? Because if it's "wrong" then it must be doing harm to someone. We're not talking about math problems or grammar; we're talking about what people like and who they are. I'm familiar with your warp too: You think if you go around saying that homosexuality (should I even bother saying "for example"?) is bad, that it doesn't count as "hate" and that you're not hurting anyone. You think that counts as getting along. You want to act on a perceived responsibility to say something, without taking the responsibility FOR saying it. You don't imagine you had any part in all the societal pressure, the discrimination encoded in law, the stigma, all those kids killing themselves. Sorry, but if your "belief" amounts to unfounded prejudice against a harmless class of people, it IS illegitimate, and you've been wrecking everyone's shit for thousands of years so it's not like I realistically expect you to stop. |
| GreyAcumane #1323469 2 months ago |
Yes, I can meaningfully define the difference. In fact I have a very simple litmus test that basically sums up to "if everyone did it, what would happen?"
Lets take homosexuality as the example, since it actually is quite a good example to demonstrate the logical nuances; if everyone in the world were heterosexual, the world would... continue on normally, if everyone were homosexual, the world would... not. Litmus test comes out pretty easy to read, though obviously not the results you wanted. However homosexuality isn't some sort of active force. Homosexuality itself is something that only affects the individual, and would not cause problems with others of that group. It does not need to be fought against or stomped out, but merely not supported as appropriate. Something like murder, theft, suicide, rape, adultery, molestation, assault, kidnapping, suppressing the ability to express beliefs, etc, do cause problems for other individuals, hence these activities need to be actively fought against as well as being recognized as wrong. Unless an individual is expressing their homosexuality through these methods, then they are not something that needs to be actively fought against. And I'm fully willing to take responsibility for the things I say, but I'm not taking responsibility for what some other moron says that you want to lump me in with in order to try to undermine my stance. Just because I don't automatically side with one moron against another moron doesn't mean that you can lump me in with that other moron. If anything, YOU are the one who is lumping yourself in with that group that is, as you said, "responsible for wrecking everyone's shit for the past thousand years", because it is your own "you're either with us or against us" attitude you've been demonstrating that is responsible for people going from "gays? whatever..." to "oh shit! GAYS! We have to DO something!" The homosexual topic is just an excuse, it's the "us against them" attitude that is the actual problem. |
| Anonymous #1447241 1 month ago |
whooooowee! look at all that text! All sorts of words and punctuation marks in there! welp, time to find more ponies! |
| TheGlueFactory #1452252 1 month ago |
Season 6, Episode 14, The Death Camp of Tolerance. Skip to the end, listen to Mr. Garrison's speech about the difference between tolerance/acceptance, and you have my argument for the day. Peace. |