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Impious
#1078091
4 months ago
I am...

Bewildered.
Blaze-Bolt
#1078097
4 months ago
Well atleast we finally have an explanation, probably still won't resolve people from emailing her or Hasbro though...
Psychopomf
#1078106
4 months ago
I'm content now.

I mean I was always content. But I'm even more content now.
ProfessorOfHoers
#1078110
4 months ago
The self righteous funkillers always win. I've learned that time and time again.
Anonymous
#1078111
4 months ago
I'm hopeful.
Nebbie
#1078114
4 months ago
"I discovered that one definition is 'retarded.'"
This is why you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet. Particularly not single-instance word definitions from a google search.
Blaze-Bolt
#1078117
4 months ago
@Psychopomf
Agreed.
Imdumb
#1078118
4 months ago
Niggertron.
Shockblock99
#1078124
4 months ago
Personally, those first few seconds when Derpy existed were the best seconds of the surrounding month. I'm sad that others were offended, and that they were cut, but at least Derpy happened.
She won't change for me.
werkbau
#1078132
4 months ago
i weep, I weep at humanity.
Anonymous
#1078140
4 months ago
@Professor

Three words
Comics Code Authority

Two more words
Hayes Codes

The fun killers victories rarely last.
Jackarunda
#1078148
4 months ago
Nothing against AKR, but she is obviously oblivious to the internet. Completely. DERP is not offensive, it's funny, in every situation.

Fuck everyone.
Nebbie
#1078150
4 months ago
@anon140
The funkillers will never stop all fun forever, but they can kill a lot of fun over a long time. A very long time.
Psychopomf
#1078152
4 months ago
@Blaze-Bolt and any others Here, I'm donating some of my extra strength Chill
Anonymous
#1078155
4 months ago
@Shock

Well said, can Shock get that Black & White Gif of that guy clapping .
Jackarunda
#1078156
4 months ago
What mother, fucking, website did she find that indicated DERP was anything but funny and light-hearted?!
sonicfan2d91
#1078162
4 months ago
Four days, or was it five since word got out that Derpy was edited? You'd think this was a weeks-long debacle.

Anywho, I shall have to disagree with Ms. Rogers on the final point. I'm still rather disappointed in Hasbro, at the very least, and I don't really feel unjustified in doing so. But you know what? I'll get over it. There's a new episode on Saturday, and I intend to enjoy it just as much as any other.
Nebbie
#1078165
4 months ago
@Jackarunda
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Derpy
4th google result for "derpy". first definition too.
Look at the ones lower down...
Interior_Gummy
#1078168
4 months ago
Jackarunda
#1078171
4 months ago
--> UrbanDictionary

I'm gonna go kill myself now.
Jackarunda
#1078172
4 months ago
In modern school curriculums there needs to be a set of courses that educate about the internet. Shit like this could be avoided.
Nebbie
#1078183
4 months ago
@Jackarunda
That wouldn't stop people like her, who are done with school and don't understand the internet, from being ignorant of the malintentioned depths.
Impious
#1078184
4 months ago
Jackarunda, as much as I don't really like you, I totally want to give you a hug right now.

We need to teach Internet in our school system. Seriously.

Urban Dictionary... I was THIS close to respecting the woman. Now I know she's a dumbass.
Anonymous
#1078187
4 months ago
^Thanks for the link psycho. I was going to say something about how this makes me feel like, but I can't after hearing that. No really I can't, I've been trying for a while now. I guess I just wish they would have made Derpy shine somehow instead of simply making her a clutz, regardless of her name. A name is just a label, what matters is the essense of what's being reffered to . That would have been in the shows spirit: "Guess what, you see this character as retarded and challanged in every way, but look what beatiful things she can do". That would have been inspiring, that would have been greatness. Someone choose to be safe instead.
ProfessorOfHoers
#1078188
4 months ago
^Chapter 1, pornography.

100,000 pages later.

Chapter 2, email.
PonyFlea
#1078191
4 months ago
"Love and tolerate" does not extend to those trying to take your rights away or oppressing you...
SomeoneBored
#1078199
4 months ago
Jackarunda
#1078201
4 months ago
Ok Impious, I'll leave you alone from now on...
Scope_Dog
#1078209
4 months ago
They did the right thing.
Although I would've preferred them replacing "Derpy" with "Ditzy."
Fronzel
#1078210
4 months ago
When it's time for network and production people to make decisions, it's "what's best for the MLP brand".

When it's time for fans to respond it's "tolerance, kindness, understanding".

These people are not the fans' friends and I wish they wouldn't act it when it's convenient for them.
Anonymous
#1078213
4 months ago
We created this character.

We the bronies, therefore, can legitimately not tolerate this crime.

Evil trolls have deceived this writer about the definition of Derpy, and we are not going to take it lying down. Agreed by all?
werkbau
#1078214
4 months ago
Impious
#1078215
4 months ago
That was rather uncalled for of me, Jack. I was an anon, long long ago, and I happened to see the whole fiasco about you hating gays and what not. Let bygones be bygones, but it certainly sullied my opinion of you.

But WHAT THE FUCK EVER WHO EVEN GIVES A SHIT. There are more important things to be pissed off about.

At this point, Hasbro is the EA of toys and merchandise. I.e., they deserve not a shred of respect.
Scope_Dog
#1078222
4 months ago
@Impious

Are you even a connoisseur of toys?

Cause Hasbro is definitely not the EA of toys.
PonyFlea
#1078223
4 months ago
Agreed, 210 & 213. Showing retarded persons in all their foibles and follies does not have to mean they look bad. They can be inspiration and a comfort for those mentally challenged. They shouldn't be hidden from society like they used to be. Many people will always be crude to those different, but we shouldn't give in to them...
Anonymous
#1078231
4 months ago
@PonyFlea

No one is oppressing you, stop overacting.

I think/hope I speak for a significant portion of this fandom when I say, we don't care hat Derpy/Ditzy/that pony with Bubbles on her rump is called, as long as she retains her crossed eyes and continues to make appearances In the show. Perhaps she might even get another speaking role in season 3 (I no longer about what her voice sounds like).

Also hang in there Jackarunda
ProfessorOfHoers
#1078237
4 months ago
That's quite true. Hasbro wants your money and their corporate imagine is worth LOTS AND LOTS of money to them.

People will complain about Derpy and being ableist (whatever the fuck that means) but I don't see that many people complaining about the working and safety conditions in the factories that the toys they create and sell.

People are mad at Apple about Foxcon but it's no different than almost any other company's MO. Hasbro. They have sweatshops in China and other countries as well.

But, 10 people got mad about ol' googley eyes.
MagicMarker
#1078245
4 months ago
ERRYPONY MAD.
Impious
#1078248
4 months ago
@Scope_Dog

For Transformers:Prime, Hasbro created flawlessly screen-accurate transformers figures for the first edition line. Yes, you just read screen-accurate and Hasbro in the same sentence.

Then they cancelled the line just before its release and instead continue to peddle off their cheap unpainted and fragile rubbery plastic with gigantic accessories and worthless shit. Ask any transformers fan in the know, it's the TFfandom's Derpy crisis.

Seriously, Hasbro is too dumb to live.
ProfessorOfHoers
#1078254
4 months ago
ugh, so many typos. I should try to watch TV while I type. Meh.
MagicMarker
#1078256
4 months ago
>Insulting and whining about Hasbro

>Will be shocked when they stop listening to us at all.

LOVE AND TOLERANCE.
DaxRattler
#1078268
4 months ago
I'm just going to copy paste my reply from earlier.
This

managed to beat This

.....How for the love of Celestia how....
It wasn't a curb stomp, carpet bombing or even nuke from orbit. it was practically Gurren Lagann vs cave dwellers...how does this even make sense!
Anonymous
#1078275
4 months ago
Anon 1078231

Oh dear rsweet celestia, I took over 5 minute typing that message.

*Facehoof*
Anonymous
#1078284
4 months ago
Week 1: all the currently known rules of the internet (34, 63, the internet is for porn, there are no girls on the internet etc.)
Week 2: anonymity causes people to be assholes
Week 3: if you meant it seriously, it will not be taken seriously
Week 4: haters gonna hate, stupiders gonna stupid
Weeks 5, 6 and 7: all past and present internet memes, their origins and current perception (including derp)
Week 8: acronyms
Week 9: types of websites
Week 10: Wikipedia
Week 11: YouTube
Week 12: Facebook
Week 13: WHO NOT TO TRUST
Scope_Dog
#1078319
4 months ago
@Impious

They're working on a way to make that right. They've mentioned it's a priority to try and get the FE toys released in US.
Anonymous
#1078334
4 months ago
Ya know, if this is how you all are going to act about this, and still whine and be babies about it, then maybe we don't deserve Derpy, maybe we don't deserve all the support the Bronies get, and maybe we don't deserve the little nods the animators in the show add just for Bronies. We don't deserve any of that because this is exactly how I saw this going to happen.
PonyFlea
#1078345
4 months ago
The minority is oppressing the majority, and we shouldn't tolerate that...
Fronzel
#1078356
4 months ago
@334 So they give, we should be happy, they take away, we should be happy?

This insistence that we only behave how it's convenient really annoys me.

Why not say if this is Hasbro acts, their show doesn't deserve us?
Dragoon
#1078367
4 months ago
Nice to know how the writer went through all of this drama and how she feels about Derpy/Ditzy. A bittersweet tale I have to say
Skully
#1078390
4 months ago
I could have swore I had Derpy Drama was filtered out. Granted, this wasn't drama, but a reasonable response about her situation. Sure I may not agree with derpy having the same meaning of the "r" word, but she done what she had to do.

People who like her voice can like it, people who don't listen to the original, hell even the people that don't like either voice, but the fandom's voice, can continue to listen to it. We live in this day and age now that we can edit videos to our likings.
Anonymous
#1078392
4 months ago
So Amy Motherkeating Rogers intended the name to be Ditzy Doo.

...just imagine the shitstorm that would have happened if RD said "Careful, Ditzy!"
Nebbie
#1078402
4 months ago
@anon392 I'd be unhappy, but wouldn't rage about it. I think the shitstorm would be tiny, really.
Skully
#1078413
4 months ago
Also can we

PLEASE

put an end to this shitstorm. This has been going on since the end of January.
Scope_Dog
#1078421
4 months ago
ALSO.

There's the fact Hasbro is a bitch for retailers like Toys'R'Us and Wal-Mart.

That's part of the reason FE was canceled. Retailers didn't want them.
Impious
#1078472
4 months ago
Wait, so snoop. Retailers wanted this:



Instead of THIS?!



GAH! EVERYONE IS FUCKING STUPID EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME

NO HOPE LEFT
Scope_Dog
#1078477
4 months ago
^Yeah, pretty much.

Trust me, Hasbro isn't the EA of toys. Maybe the Capcom, but not the EA.

No, the EA of toys is Mattel.
Impious
#1078489
4 months ago
Well, Mattel just makes shitty products. The comparison between Hasbro and EA that I am making is that Hasbro is capable of churning out absolute awesome, but they always roll a critical botch, so to speak, and find a way to fuck themselves over.

EA makes great games, but they are fucking stupid and always find a way to screw things up and make themselves look like total assholes (protip, they are.) Hasbro is the same way, a LOT.
Scope_Dog
#1078502
4 months ago
The thing about Mattle is they are:

Living off their franchises like barbie and hotwheels.

Not above underhanded business tactics to stay at the top of the game (see: Bratz lawsuits)

Lack of innovation, cutting costs as much as possible at cost of quality.

Charging as much as possible for any figure.

Constant recycling of ideas and molds.
Silversoul666
#1078573
4 months ago
And we lost the battle.
Yeah, I hear some people saying losing Depry Hooves is not that important and we should all move on.

Well, I'd say some nasty things, but I'd regret the later, as they do not convey my real feelings.

We WILL move on.
But moving on and disregarding the events are totally different things.
A minority got Derpy removed.
When faced with th decision, Hasbro put the wishes of the minority in first place.

And somehow, people are telling me I should be happy about it.

I am grieving right now. I didn't expect to feel so useless and incapable.
And that because I saw his coming.I knew this was how it would end.
Anonymous
#1078604
4 months ago
Going by her letter, this website reflects her wording on the definition of "derpy" almost verbatim.

http://www.definition-of.net/derpy

Unfortunately, my net-fu isn't good enough to tell when that page was edited.
Nebbie
#1078613
4 months ago
@anon604 read Urban Dictionary's definition. It's nearly identical to what your link has.
Urban Dictionary is also the first google result for "derpy definition", and fourth for "derpy".
Much more likely she went to it.
Impious
#1078614
4 months ago
Alright.

So, everyone who reads this, new mantra:

We don't complain about a fucking thing about the show, ever again.

If the writers throw us some more bones, we will take it and like it.

If Hasbro decides to fuck us in the ass, we will take it and like it.

And to be honest, this fandom deserves to be fucked in the ass some more.

This HAS been one of the ugliest shitstorms I have ever weathered, and I am something of a veteran. This shit has culminated into one of the most pathetically stupid things I have ever seen, and it's this fandom's fault. The minority bitched and the majority was too weak to fight back, and instead turned on itself.

Bronies don't deserve Derpy.
Nebbie
#1078643
4 months ago
@Impious
preaching to the choir.
I don't know about you, but I never complained to anyone working on the show about something. I probably will sign a Derpy petition, but I feel the battle is lost.
The sensitive minority will always do what they, bitch & whine. Always. They're in every fandom. They will find anything to latch onto.
And just because they do wat they do, does not mean the rest of us are undeserving.
ProfessorOfHoers
#1078721
4 months ago
Yeah, Impious, you're kind of right. I never emailed Hasbro or harassed anyone but I did WANT Derpy to stay the same and I am peeved at some level it had to be changed.

I think we can all agree that this is a first world problem and all but it still sucks and I understand why people feel bad, mad, or even indifferent.
Silversoul666
#1078758
4 months ago
Of course we were to weak to fight back. with so many optmists around spreading word that everytinh was okay and that it was merely Apple intefering.
somewhere in that midst, people felt everything was gonna end allright.

You know what make us weak. We spend to much time trying to find out which way is better to act, and start infightin like there is a broniest way to be, and end up doing nothing.

It's not like the discussion here will ever be anything more than mere wated posts on an internet gutter.
TheLoneLampman
#1078834
4 months ago
Only TEN fucking letters and nobody here screams 'trolls' yet???

At least half that had to be anti-bronys.

Personally I'm starting to believe it was the work of them exclusively.
Nightweaver20xx
#1079005
4 months ago
Hasbro isn't listening to us complain. They're listening to their writers who have been complained to by people with nothing better to do in their time than complain about a cartoon character. Hasbro got scared of their bottom line because they didn't want to offend their main source of income, little girls and by proxy, their mothers. Hasbro doesn't care about its fringe fanbase of adult fans enough to ruin its image. The End.
Anonymous
#1079055
4 months ago
"people with nothing better to do in their time than complain about a cartoon character"

this is what you idiots think you aren't
OzarkBrony
#1079228
4 months ago
I don't really understand the hate against AKR here. She didn't think Derpy meant retarded either, and she wasn't offended when the scene aired. Considering she has a severely disabled son, I think her opinion counts more than most.

The name was originally supposed to be Ditzy-Doo. Wonder how that's gonna affect fanon.

And honestly, I don't think RD calling her "Ditzy" would have caused a bigger shitstorm. For one, there was already precedent for that name in the show. Also, Ditzy connotes "airhead", not "retard". And for those who say that "Derpy" doesn't mean retard either, I agree. BUT, remember that one of the first things 4channers said upon noticing Derpy in Ep1 was "Haha is that a retard pony in the back?"

I love the fact that even AKR had no idea what "Ableist" meant before this. It seems like no one did except the easily-offended PC types who were screaming it at her.

And honestly, I can't totally blame Hasbro for caving to the whiner minority. The problem with people who bitch about being offended is that they don't shut up, and very likely would have gone to the media if Hasbro hadn't "fixed" the "problem", and toy companies don't exactly have the best reputation with them already. If I was in their position, I probably would do the same thing (except for un-derping her eyes). Hasbro is a business like any other; they don't like controversy, no matter how stupid. If they were truly evil (like, say, MATTEL) then they would've excised the Derpy scene entirely and/or banned the episode from ever appearing again, recalled the Friendship Express DVD, and probably sued anybody who dared complain about their actions; they sure as shit wouldn't let a site like this exist. Remember, we're still getting brony-themed toys in the fall (Zecora, Trixie, Lyra, DJ-P0N3), and DHX doesn't completely hate us yet. In other words, we got off pretty lucky.

TL;DR With any luck, this is over and the damage is done. Derpy/Ditzy-Doo will move back to being an Easter egg character just like she was meant to be. Will her eyes be derped in future? I hope so, but we just won't know until Season 3 airs.
Anonymous
#1079243
4 months ago
Fuck that bitch and her mongoloid son.
Anonymous
#1079255
4 months ago
^It could be worse we could be losers like you who have nothing better to do than insult and troll people who have nothing better to do in their time than complain about a cartoon character.

So what's being at the bottom of the Internets food chain feel like?
Anonymous
#1079261
4 months ago
^ Dammit ninja'd
SpecialAnon
#1079679
4 months ago
I went through the whole article, and I'm not mad. Just, moderately disappointed. It seemed inevitable that using "Derpy" as a name would cause shit(though I wish that it didn't happen to do just that, but that would've been certainly naive to deny the possibility), and after this whole Derpy fiasco, fans could've just interpreted "Derpy" as a nickname Dash used to refer to Ditzy, much like Pinkie calling RD "Dashie"(keeping the character's canon name while still having a nod given to us by the crew). I know that the majority of the fanbase is completely tired of anyone drudging up this conversation over and over again, but please bear with my opinion.

I'm perplexed at how ultimately the option that Hasbro took was probably considered the most "secure" (#3, which in a way was more solid than #2). #4 is an option that CAN in fact still be left on the table. Although, I would've been glad if they DID go with option #1 and stand by their decisions whilst not bending to the outrage. Especially since only a few had problems while the majority of responders had positive things to say. Saying that one's opinion cannot change anything would certainly be a lie, because as we've seen in recent times, it CAN.

Now surely Derpy will just be, once again, a voiceless background pony. But although this happened, I'm not gonna stop liking/watching the show. In the end, and this is probably the truest thing that can be said in this situation, it isn't Derpy that made me/us love the show, it is the whole FiM world itself that did, the many characters within the show, and the wonderful creators and workers that bring us this fine show. I'm done trying to argue on this topic, but needed to voice my stance on this particular thing before I go back to groaning at/moderately tolerating more shitstorms.

Love, tolerate, forgive and appreciate.
Silversoul666
#1080244
4 months ago
This must be the first time I see almost first-hand how being the non-target audience affects the fans.

Ther would have been no problem if a character named Derpy, even with clear signs of retardation, had been present in a cartoon for mature audiences.
Vree
#1084248
4 months ago
I'm just glad SOMEONE gave an answer. Why did it have to take so long? Why did we have to find out about the whole thing this way? Seruiosly, if Hasbro is paying their PR minimum wage they still owe them change.