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| Scope_Dog #1015371 5 months ago |
Ew, Octavia. |
| Scope_Dog #1015375 5 months ago |
Although I do agree, Dubstep is awful. |
| HeinousActsZX #1015384 5 months ago |
If it's done right, and I mean perfectly, it's good.
But screw up just a little and you have absolute garbage. |
| Jackarunda #1015387 5 months ago |
I have a few songs which some would call dubstep, but generally I don't like it. |
| Theopticals #1015396 5 months ago |
I'm reminded of the words of a music expert in regards to dubstep, calling it, "the scraping of Satan's asshole." |
| Takanuva #1015437 5 months ago |
My sentiment's exactly. |
| Anonymous #1015444 5 months ago |
Theopticals
#1015396; "I'm reminded of the words of a music expert in regards to dubstep, calling it, "the scraping of Satan's asshole." ' Hm, that actually sounds appealing, but then "the scraping of Satan's asshole" sounds like it would be some pretty wicked grindcore. Personally I quite like the examples of dubstep that I've heard, but I don't know how representative of my listening is of most people's exposure to dubstep. I've mostly heard the weird stuff centred around London like Digital Mystikz, Kode 9, Burial, Skream, Boxcutter the whole Hyperdub records group, etc. When someone posted an example of some rather dancy stuff that was supposedly dubstep I cocked my eye-brow and said, "That's dubstep?" |
| Imdumb #1015468 5 months ago |
I'm the opposite, I don't like classical music and stuff like that. |
| Anonymous #1015480 5 months ago |
People like Skrillex give Dubstep a bad name. That's softcore shit. A lot of dubstep is seen as bad because it is: It's an easily-accessible medium and a lot of people THINK they know what they're doing. When you get a capable artist, it's pretty awesome. Look up "Invaders". That's some good dubstep. |
| Anonymous #1015487 5 months ago |
Excision and DatsiK makes good dubstep. Past that, I haven't really dabbled. Like 480 says, a lot of it IS bad. |
| CranialHeartache #1015508 5 months ago |
The terrible thing here.
My music is worse than dubstep. |
| Adam_Crocker #1015512 5 months ago |
For the record I was the Anon who posted earlier and responded to Theopticals. Hhhh...keep forgetting to log back in after switching my computer between home and the University.
Anonymous #1015480; "People like Skrillex give Dubstep a bad name." *Looks up Skrillex and clicks on the Ruffneck video* Dear god. This is friggin' awful. It sounds like he just jammed whatever sounds were at hand onto the track and hoped that the clubbers were too drunk or stoned to notice. No regards for flow, texture, or any sense of dynamics. It's like the Dubstep equivalent of a Nickelback song. Great contrast from say... Skream "Exothermic Reaction" http://youtu.be/KandVSZbZAM Boxcutter "Brood" http://youtu.be/6pJGhIc2E40 Kode9 + the Spaceape "Glass" http://youtu.be/PENB0f5bcpM |
| Anonymous #1015528 5 months ago |
Adam Crocker knows what's up. Those are all fantastic. Tickles my balls something serious. |
| Anonymous #1015538 5 months ago |
I don't even know what the fuck dubstep is. |
| Adam_Crocker #1015601 5 months ago |
@ Anonymous
#1015538; Weird electronic music involving heavy yet wobbly basslines, almost as though the DJ is drunk. It began in the UK with experimental, instrumental remixes of a style of electronic music called two-step garage (I don't know what it is either). Some of the acts I mentioned above were among the earlier dubstep artists to gain notice in the UK. Some of the best of it is the most strange, off-the-wall electronic I've heard, using the slow tempo and thick basslines to hang all sorts of interesting sound textures on. (Whereas hacks like Skrillex seem to just pile on a bunch of noises the way post-grunge bands use effects pedals to churn out the same colourless mud.) Oddly enough Wikipedia has a thorough and well sourced article on the topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep |
| Zancrow #1015611 5 months ago |
Dubstep is no music, though. |
| Adam_Crocker #1015622 5 months ago |
Zancrow;
How do you figure? |
| Zancrow #1015644 5 months ago |
@Adam
Because apes throwing their feces at a bunch of rabid sloths sounds better than that! That's how I figure. |
| bboifatz #1015646 5 months ago |
Nice to see Octavia acting in-character for once! |
| Zancrow #1015650 5 months ago |
Sorry, if I offended you, but in my opinion music needs instruments and a meaning. |
| Adam_Crocker #1015681 5 months ago |
Zancrow
#1015644; "Because apes throwing their feces at a bunch of rabid sloths sounds better than that!" Which unfortunately still leaves me puzzled because I could say that Nickelback is the rock equivalent of sticking my nose in fresh dog turds...but no one is going to know why I think that way. Now if I said that Nickelback is the rock equivalent of sticking my nose in fresh dog turds because they represent grunge distilled to its most generic, unimaginative, and irritating aspects (namely the same muddy riffs over and over; the same testerone laden angst reduced to trite cliches; Chad Kroeger sounding like a pod-person version of Eddie Vedder) that might be more helpful because it's more specific. Zancrow #1015650 "Sorry, if I offended you, but in my opinion music needs instruments and a meaning." Yeah, but does Dubstep not have a meaning...or instruments for that matter? |
| Zancrow #1015700 5 months ago |
@Adam
I don't want to start a heated argument/discussion/shitstorm here xD I just hate techno, house and all that stuff, because it's just party party party all the time with no real meaning. And the only instrument is synthesizer most of the time. |
| Anonymous #1015711 5 months ago |
ew.....fancy music |
| Adam_Crocker #1015733 5 months ago |
I'm not looking to have a heated argument, I'm just trying to understand the basis of your arguments about Dubstep.
Mind you I'm one of those lunatics who's read way-to-much writing about music and go from listening can go from the Black Keys to dubstep to Persian music to Mastodon to 20s jazz at the drop of the hat. ;-) "I just hate techno, house and all that stuff, because it's just party party party all the time with no real meaning." I suppose this is what spurred on my questions since just earlier I posted examples of Dubstep that were the exact opposite of that image of techno and house. But then I guess the best question to ask at this point is: what music do you like and what do you consider examples of music with meaning? |
| TooOldForThisShow #1015837 5 months ago |
I don't get it.
People link to examples of "good" dubstep and I find them boring, while I actually kind of like the "bad" dubstep. Hipster nonsense. |
| Psychopomf #1015855 5 months ago |
My contribution to this stirring debate is thus
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| Anonymous #1015888 5 months ago |
We need more math rock and post-hardcore, but none of that mofern "emo" shit. |
| Serr #1016086 5 months ago |
Opinions, opinions everywhere. |
| octavia-bass #1016494 5 months ago |
Like all musical genres, there are good and bad examples, and these change with hindsight. In Dubstep's case it seems to be mostly down to the acuity of the performer/composer with their chosen software tools. Its a rather damning indictment of a lot of dubstep that you can actually hear which piece of software is being used. The Warping effect of Ableton Live for example is pretty easy to spot, as are the various Traktor plugins and common tropes that make up the genre (WubWubWub etc). None of this is new... a 12-bar blues song is pretty formulaic but the difference between being able to pull it off and just being a parody is the ability of the performer to put something of themselves into those 12-barres, likewise with Dubstep, some really really great examples of it out there but you have to dig around a bit and listen. Personally I'm more of an Autechre/AFX/Richard Devine weirdo which clears dance floors... and leaves behind the Screwballs of the audience. My kinda ponies. |
| Zancrow #1017061 5 months ago |
@Adam
Queen, for example. Show must go on, I want to break free and so on. |
| Kokopure #1017086 5 months ago |
Psh. some of it's good and some of it's awful. It's like all music. No genre is inherently terrible.
EXCEPT COUNTRY MUSIC OF COURSE :V |
| Takashi_0 #1017187 5 months ago |
>No genre is inherently terrible.
Thank God, somebody with sens- >EXCEPT COUNTRY MUSIC OF COURSE Oh u. |
| Adam_Crocker #1017198 5 months ago |
Zancrow
#1017061; "Queen, for example. Show must go on, I want to break free and so on." Queen are awesome. They were one of my earliest musical loves for their sheer strangeness, like doing hard rock and stage musical, sometimes in the same song. :D (Anything else?) Me? As I explained, my tastes are pretty broad. Started out listening to classical on the radio and a bit of Queen, but it wasn't until I was twenty one and got access to Audio galaxy that I started taking music seriously. I started with prog like Yes, King Crimson, and Hawkwind, and hardrock like Blue Oyster Cult. Then I discovered punk and jazz and...oddly enough avant-garde composer John Cage. I REALLY went crazy about music when I discovered the Velvet Underground, 70s punk rock, and 80s indie bands like Husker Du. Since then it's been all down-hill as I've soaked up various bits of classic rock, folk, blues (nearly all forms, except for the 20s piano blues with female singers), country, bluegrass, old string band music, Afrobeat, Indonesian Gamelan, Tuareg Desert Blues/Tishoumaren, classical, hip-hop...and well just about anything that makes a sound I like. (hmm, a bit rambly. Do I want to explain why I like Dubstep? :p ) |
| Adam_Crocker #1017217 5 months ago |
Kokopure
#1017086; "No genre is inherently terrible. EXCEPT COUNTRY MUSIC OF COURSE :V" Zombie Hank Williams and Zombie Waylon Jennings are going to come and kick your ass... ...that's if they don't suck up all the liquor and cocaine on the way over... |
| Adam_Crocker #1017225 5 months ago |
Weird...now I'm sketching out a story in my mind where Octavia hears some lame commercial dubstep, makes some supercilious comment, and then comes home to find Vinyl playing Burial's UNTRUE...
...whereupon she breaks down uncontrollably, crying about how beautiful it is. |
| EOCB #1017300 5 months ago |
Weird, I dislike most dubstep, including most of Skrillex' stuff, but I absolutely love "kill everybody". well, I've never been much for whole genres, more for specific songs. |