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Sindaras
#990952
5 months ago
here we go again...
Anonymous
#990956
5 months ago
Eh, I don't really care for ships, but Rarity never said anything. She knows Spike likes her, but I think canon wise, it stops there.

As for the latest episode, don't worry, they winked at the end.
Ping_chan
#990962
5 months ago
The ending was ambiguous as to if CheeriMac is here to stay or if it ended after the ep
Rostam
#990965
5 months ago
I doubt spike and rarity are officially a couple...

Shipping is ruined to me thanks to "DakariKingMykan:

He literaly thinks shipping is serious and its in the balance of the cosmos...he can't sleep knowing beast boy and terra are not "togather" literally
Zeligno
#990972
5 months ago
Cheerimac can't count as canon until is 100% confirmed, that "Relationship" could just be a joke they made to troll the CMC.
I don't even care if it's canon or not, i just wanted to point that out.
Anonymous
#990973
5 months ago
These two are as canon as any relationship will be in a show for little girls that revolves around friendship (with the exception of the married parents, etc).

And while Spike's is more one-sided, it's still clear that he and Rarity share more feelings for eachother than any other characters.

And the wink doesn't mean anything. Sure, it could be a sign of them joking around to troll the CMC, but it can also be taken as them playfully flirting with eachother as well.

These two ships are as canon as the show will ever make a pairing.
Anonymous
#990976
5 months ago
What about Applejack and Rainbow Dash?
Anonymous
#990985
5 months ago
If they're going to touch on romance they have to play off characters other than the mane 6. Remember there's a mandate that the episodes have to work in any order. That's why nopony seems to remember how many times the mane 6 have saved Equestria. It's also why Spike having a crush on Rarity can be canon, but Rarity's feelings toward Spike must remain ambiguous. A mane 6 romance just wouldn't fit the show's non-serial nature.
BattleGT
#990994
5 months ago
@976 I really hope you aren't serious I really do.
Anonymous
#990996
5 months ago
Right, Rainbow tackling AJ TOTALLY makes them a couple, just like Fluttershy standing next to Big Mac does.

Nopenopenope.
Sindaras
#991001
5 months ago
Theopticals
#991008
5 months ago
Questionmarktarius
#991009
5 months ago
What about Pinkie Pie and Party Cannon? That's a canon cannon ship!
Anonymous
#991013
5 months ago
@Theo
A canon ship that started off the same way as Cheerimac. Thanks for your input!
Psychopomf
#991015
5 months ago
^

You. I like you.
Sandstorm
#991018
5 months ago
To be fair though, in case of Rarispike, Rarity pretty much quo-blocked Spike, so their ship is still in the "one way crush" dock.
Theopticals
#991030
5 months ago
@013
It's always important to provide common evidence of how relationships can blossom from small beginnings. It was my pleasure!
QuelloScelto
#991034
5 months ago
^ quo-blocked? When?
Anonymous
#991046
5 months ago
Well, the status quo and modus operandi of the show is "no continuity whatsoever" so until that changes NOTHING is really canon, if you want to be super technical. At this rate Cheerilee and Big Mac could be on the cusp of a long and wonderful life together, or they might not even talk to each other ever again. Same with Spike and Rarity. So, quo-blocked, not because of their relationship but because that's how the show works.
Anonymous
#991048
5 months ago
@#990994
Heteronorm is trully not an argument. I will just lay behind licking your delicious tears fluttermacers.
QuelloScelto
#991060
5 months ago
^ the series has some continuity at some points, the grand galloping galla was a proof of that (Ticket Master, Suited for Success, The Best Night ever). So in that case i dont doubt in some future there will be hints for those ships or details for example Rarity wearing the fire ruby again or Cheerimac seen on the background together
Sindaras
#991062
5 months ago
Anonymous
#991069
5 months ago
WHERE IS RARITY'S EYESHADOW
Anonymous
#991073
5 months ago
What QuelloScelto said.
BattleGT
#991084
5 months ago
@ 048 I don't know what you're trying to get at. But my point is watching the show with shipping goggles is stupid and arguing over what relationship is canon and what is better is ludicrous.
Anonymous
#991091
5 months ago
@QuelloScelto:

Not to mention Pinkie Pie's "sense" in the Mare Do Well episode and Luna's behavior due to being trapped in the Moon in Luna Eclipsed.
Anonymous
#991094
5 months ago
@#991084
Yes! YES! This is delicious.
BattleGT
#991122
5 months ago
@094 What?
Anonymous
#991132
5 months ago
You don't need shipping goggles to see that Cheerimac is canon.
Stargazer
#991164
5 months ago
*Watches episode, doesn't see it. Takes the ending as them just messing with the CMC*
Anonymous
#991180
5 months ago
^ Nope. Try reading the rest of the thread, maybe?
They spent the entire day together and then went off to have the picnic at the gazebo. That wasn't messing.

Maybe the wink and baby talk was, but it can also be argued the wink was them flirtatiously sharing the joke, key word, flirting.
If anything, they show is setting them up for possibly dating in the future.
Anonymous
#991190
5 months ago
*the show
And it's a show for young girls, remember. It's intended to be humorous but it's also meant to be easy to understand for them, while maintaining friendship as its main aspect, but with a bit of romance on the side (because, deal with it, the girls watching the show are happy with the romance between these two, and don't give a fuck of whom got paired with whom).

This is as canon as the show is going to make a romantic relationship.
Stargazer
#991221
5 months ago
eh? I noticed that towards the beginning they really showed no signs of being more then friends. Actually, it seemed like they were feeling akward. Then the potion hits which I don't count since they were under a spell.

Then you see them jokingly act like they were under the love poison. Then wink as they CMC are screaming NO!

I dunno, it just doesn't seem to scream couple to me. Till they show something a little more substantial shows up. Till then I'm gonna have to side with friends. It just seems like too much mindless and baseless speculation for my tastes.
Anonymous
#991237
5 months ago
@QuelloScelto

A reassuring argument, but the intended lack of emphasis on continuity still makes most of this moot. Though perhaps I jumped the shark a bit, there certainly are recurring themes.
Stargazer
#991242
5 months ago
Maybe in later episodes we see them rubbing noses like Caramel and his Girlfriend were doing perhaps?
Anonymous
#991246
5 months ago
They were close friends, and you know, they could have been awkward because maybe they had a crush on each other? That tends to do that.
LightningLazer
#991325
5 months ago
Razor's never gunna get any.
Anonymous
#991444
5 months ago
Neither ship shown is valid. but current episode did have two ships confirmed:
Caramel has a girlfriend (choke on it, Yaoi weirdoes.)
And Twist has a boyfriend-- that little grey pudgy pony...
Anonymous
#991473
5 months ago
^ the above

I can't imagine Spike/Rarity will ever be reciprocated, you know, since most people frown on pedophilia and all that for some kkkwwazy reason. Strange, huh? Maybe it can work in the rural backwoods India/Africa version of MLP.
Anonymous
#991500
5 months ago
Spike is only a little younger than the Mane 6 though... And they've spent two winters together, so by third season, maybe it could be acceptable.
Anonymous
#991560
5 months ago
^No. Spike's always going to be a baby dragon in the series, just like the CMC will always be young fillies and just like we'll never watch the Mane 6 grow all through adulthood and middle age until they end up as elderly mares. The show doesn't have that kind of continuity to it (good thing).

Rarispike/Sparity will always be considered weird interspecies pedophilia from a canon perspective, so I can pretty much guarantee it will never happen in a serious context. Or any Mane 6 pairings I'm sure, for better or for worse.
Anonymous
#991737
5 months ago
Well, what happens happens. I actually do prefer the whole one-sided-crush thing. Although it's kind of mean for Rarity to string him along.
Anonymouz
#992495
5 months ago
Wow, this stuff's still going on? Rule of shipping is if you don't want any butthurt, ship who you like but don't bash other people's ships.

990973 and 990985 view the show from a writer's perspective and a rather technical way too. They do have a very good point.

Both pairings are as canon as they'll get on a children's show that can't even give the slightest hint of kissing on screen. Their endings were both deliberately written in an open ended manner for writing convenience because Hasbro wants little to no continuity between S2 episodes.

Both Spke/Rarity and Cheer/Mac are canon because they shared episodes together with implied romance between them.

The stories are written for children. Children will not over analyze the scenes and simply take them at face value. If two characters share an episode together and romance is implied between them, end the episode on a happy note between the characters and the children will interpret those two characters are now happy together regardless of how open ended it appeared to be.
Anonymous
#992522
5 months ago
^Well said 495.

Yeah, Cheerimac and Rarispike are canon in terms of the show. If you disagree, then that's your made up fanon.
WatermelonRat
#992573
5 months ago
I disagree. All that's canon is that they went on a picnic together. Them dating, them saying it just as a joke on the CMC, or them dating and then breaking up are all fanon possibilities. Unless we see them as a regular couple, it's impossible to take such an ambiguous ending as canon proof. It seemed like a "you decide" type of ending meant to leave all possibilities open.
Anonymous
#992628
5 months ago
Spongebob gazed into his lovers eyes. "Patrick I-" Patrick pressed his appendage up against his spongy lovers lips. "No talking just love"
Anonymous
#992718
5 months ago
I love Rarispike, but it's not technically canon beyond Spike having a crush and Rarity not shooting him down.

I dislike Cheerimac, but it's not technically canon beyond them having been put under a spell and not hating each other afterwards.

Also, to my mind, the lesson to be learned in Hearts and Hooves Day would be lost if Cheerilee and Mac got together.
Anonymous
#992764
5 months ago
>Implying Cheerimac isn't canon

It is as canon as they'll get on a children's show that can't even give the slightest hint of kissing on screen. It was deliberately written in an open ended manner for writing convenience because Hasbro wants little to no continuity between S2 episodes.

If they're going to touch on romance they have to play off characters other than the mane 6. Remember there's a mandate that the episodes have to work in any order. That's why nopony seems to remember how many times the mane 6 have saved Equestria.

It's also why Spike having a crush on Rarity can be canon, but Rarity's feelings toward Spike must remain ambiguous. A mane 6 romance just wouldn't fit the show's non-serial nature.

And for the record, the ending with them trolling them CMC means nothing. It's possible for them to have having some fun, and still have been genuine about it.
The wink could have also been flirtatious.

They still do go to the gazebo and spend the entire day together beforehand.
Shipping goggles or not, it's pretty obvious that it's implied the writers have set them up for being a couple.

Tl;dr

CHEERIMAC IS AS CANON AS A SHOW FOR LITTLE GIRLS REVOLVING AROUND FRIENDSHIP WILL ALLOW.
Anonymous
#993692
5 months ago
So much copypasta
Spitfire
#994479
5 months ago
^ So much idiocy.

Maybe people are writing the same things over again because people like you refuse to read them.