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| Jackarunda #982448 5 months ago |
??!? |
| Gittonsxv #982461 5 months ago |
basically in religion unicorns are real......I LIKE THAT |
| NecromanseR_RuS #982462 5 months ago |
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| Anonymous #982463 5 months ago |
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| Gentle_Coltte_of_Leisure #982466 5 months ago |
Oh for the love of... |
| HeinousActsZX #982467 5 months ago |
People who take the bible literally are ridiculous. |
| Anonymous #982469 5 months ago |
http://ponibooru.413chan.net/post/view/127174 |
| Gittonsxv #982471 5 months ago |
i find the bible total bull shit, but funny and awesome at other times....lawl |
| Aggressively-Pastel #982474 5 months ago |
I so want Christian apologists to shuffle their feet and look embarrassed when called out on shit like the Crusades, the divinity of Jesus or the existence of unicorns. But they never do.
(Inb4 "Oh Twilight, you are my fantasy animal") |
| ZeroJanitor #982478 5 months ago |
Yeah, but those were the non-sapient unicorns who gouged you with their horns and shat everywhere. No thanks. |
| AppleDash #982484 5 months ago |
Heres a theory. Unicorns did exist, went extinct from hunting and competition or whatever, and died out. Fossil evidence doesn't exist because their horns were made of some sort of soft tissue that decomposed. |
| PhilSrobeighn #982485 5 months ago |
Poor translations are poor. Ancient Hebrew did not have the vast lexicon of English or Greek. There is no evidence that the word used is in reference to a horse with a horn or anything English speakers would identify as a unicorn. |
| Anonymous #982499 5 months ago |
Dragons too |
| Fronzel #982503 5 months ago |
A significant fraction of Conservapedia is troll entries. |
| marioandsonic #982506 5 months ago |
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| Mojo #982507 5 months ago |
O Conservapedia your so fucking batshit insane.
I wonder if their "DE-LIBERIFY THE BIBLE" Project actually took off (yes they wanted to rewrite the bible to remove it of "Liberal Bias") |
| Anonymous #982508 5 months ago |
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| Anonymous #982511 5 months ago |
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| Anonymous #982512 5 months ago |
484: Human Civilization is actually a lot older than Main-Stream Archeology will acknowledge. Chances are good that a lot of creatures from mythology actually did exist at one point but have disappeared from the Archeological record entirely and are only remembered in Myths. |
| Mojo #982515 5 months ago |
@Fronzel
for the sake of humanity I would hope all of it was. |
| Anonymous #982517 5 months ago |
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| Aggressively-Pastel #982524 5 months ago |
(Also talking equids. Relevant to this fandom.)
@ZeroJanitor shittybell… no. thatismyfantasyanim….jp… neither nor. |
| Anonymous #982528 5 months ago |
Bad translations interpreted literally are moronic. |
| Anonymous #982530 5 months ago |
| Zancrow #982533 5 months ago |
Wasn't it like this that people found teeth (the "horns") of narwhals and that's how unicorns came to be....?
Anyway, there are no unicorns. And no dragons. The world is just that boring. |
| bamakid1272 #982539 5 months ago |
. . . Must resist urge to comment on people bashing my religion.
But really, Unicorns in the Bible? I fucking wish. |
| Yurp #982545 5 months ago |
This is why i Practice ancient Norse not the new agey chistianity bull-shit |
| Anonymous #982546 5 months ago |
bamakid, it's the internet. You'll get used to it eventually. |
| Anonymous #982549 5 months ago |
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| Anonymous #982569 5 months ago |
545: Hail and well met, once you look deeply into Pagan belief systems, it instills a sense of gratitude to see that they have real Knowledge and a sense of our true place in Existence. |
| Mushi #982580 5 months ago |
well............
------------ @bamakid1272 i do not share your religion, but i think you should iganore the haters |
| Zancrow #982590 5 months ago |
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| PhilSrobeighn #982618 5 months ago |
Bamakid, don't feel bad about people bashing our religion. Just study some solid appolegetics and defend. |
| Anonymous #982654 5 months ago |
618: Truth stands on It's own, real Faith does not need to be defended on an ideological basis at all because it is based on Truth and genuine experience. If someone tells me that the Sun will not rise tomorrow, that Person is clearly mistaken. The only reason you would need to defend your belief's from the accusations of others is because you yourself doubt them and need to reinforce them. Which is part of the reason why your Religion has had such a Hard-On to convert as many members as it can and slaughters those who will not abandon their Faith. |
| Anonymous #982735 5 months ago |
TIME PARADOX!
This makes no sense. This pic was uploaded an hour ago, but has been used as a comment 4 hours ago! Here: http://ponibooru.413chan.net/post/view/127230 How?! Really. Please, someone explain. |
| PhilSrobeighn #982754 5 months ago |
@654: Apologetics is not the defense of Faith based on ideology, it is the defense of Faith based on fact. If someone tells you that the sun will not rise tomorrow, you should reassure the chap that, as it has for billions of years, the Earth will rotate and his or her location will receive sunlight. The reason Christians defend their beliefs from the accusations of others is because we have a firm Faith that accusors are choosing a path that will lead them away from their full potential and a better, eternal life, which is the entire reason why our Religion was mandated by our God to convert as many members as it can.
Meanwhile, if an Alicorn tells you that the sun will not rise tomorrow, find five of your friends and blast that bitch with the Elements of Harmony, because that Pony is clearly Nightmare Moon.[/ponyrelated] |
| Aggressively-Pastel #982783 5 months ago |
@Yurp
Let me know when you perfect it. But you're right: parvenus, thieves and imitators; at least those damn Roman, Celtic, Byzantine and Vatican hippies. @569 "I know my place". A small doctrine for coping with famine, illiteracy and better-armed cattle thieves. @654 Yeah, no. To know something is true requires evidence. One may build upon that with logic and reasoning, but never rely on mere gut feelings, intuitions. Sure, that's not enough to live a life to the fullest; one must assume, but be mindful where one is making assumptions and be prepared to correct in the face of countervailing argument founded on good evidence. Doubt is good, not an insult. The person with the extraordinary claim about the sun should be expected to prove it with very convincing evidence. @735 Right button, view image, "farm8.staticflickr.com". That image is hosted in two places. |
| Anonymous #982800 5 months ago |
754: You miss my point, if someone needs to convince me that the Sun will not rise tomorrow, it is because they know deep-down that it is unlikely and are trying to convince me so that they can feel secure in their assumption. |
| Anonymous #982832 5 months ago |
@#982800: I think you're the one making assumptions about the motives of others. |
| Anonymous #982833 5 months ago |
@Aggressively-Pastel
That makes sense. I thought time travel was involved. |
| Aggressively-Pastel #982845 5 months ago |
@754
So ultimately, no evidence whatsoever? Faith is based on fact, which is, er, Faith? I don't quite understand here. Well, total aside by now, but Iforone value the symbolism generated by religions. They're imaginative, consensual multibranched artforms in themselves even if what their symbols point to is often untrue. Thanks for pointing me at the re'em/rimu, @PhilSrobeighn: that and the Assyrian connection is worth a delve, and it's always funny to hear about KJV silliness. Trying to remember my last visit to the British Museum; wondering if a unicorn could manage to support a sun disc on a single horn or if that's merely an Egyptian thing (hey, culture sloshes around). At the very least I feel the need for a Lyra laying her head in Bonbon's lap *cough* |
| Anonymous #982864 5 months ago |
Furthermore, Christians should consider why it is that their Faith states that those who do not adhere to the same beliefs will be condemned for it. The Bible has undergone many revisions, odds are good that such concepts were introduced precisely because those doing the editing knew that it would make people desperate to convert others. While providing a convenient path People: "Well, if these other People will not convert, they'll go to Hell anyway, we might as well Kill them." What is more horrifying when you think about it? That that concept was introduced by Man? Or that your God would set up a system that encourages those who follow his word to Murder and Torture other Human Beings? It's difficult to maintain such Contradictions, which is part of the reason why the Major Religions are so desperate to convert the entire World. Anything that questions the fragile Facade of Faith cannot be tolerated. Much as a Child caught in a Lie will become outraged and do anything they can to hide it. |
| PhilSrobeighn #982909 5 months ago |
@ Pastel 845
It's impossible to divorce Faith from fact, otherwise it would be Hope. I'm not saying we base what we consider to be fact on a religious faith, I'm saying we (as all individuals) should believe in what we observe as fact, and should be able to use those facts do defend what we believe. Like I did earlier when people were taking shots at the Bible's Truth because someone in a wiki posted that in a translation of the Bible that the word "Unicorn" was used to describe an animal, and I pointed to the fact that that's not neccessarily the best translation in the essence of the word. |
| Anonymous #982938 5 months ago |
My Faith is that the Writers and Creators of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic have unknowingly received the True word of The Goddess Celestia. Celestia herself has chosen them to receive her Gospel from the Dimension in which her World resides. As such, we should all be Worshiping Celestia. |
| PowerToole #982990 5 months ago |
@735Actually, it was first posted 7 hours ago, by me. I made it to use it as a comment here. It was kinda relevant.
Apparently WatermelonRat thought it was funny and pony enough to upload so he took it from my flickr. And not for some seriousness, if I may: 
I have noticed that most bronies are, and that's cool, but theists are here to have a good time and pony around just like everyone else. If we atheists are right but at the same time we are mean to the believers, we become assholes who happen to be right. Now, I've mocked religion here and everywhere else, but I don't have a problem with most Christians. I have a problem with fundamentalists. A huge problem, in fact; but I don't think we have fundamentalists and biblical literalists in here. I'm an atheist, but for more than two decades I was a Christian, but not a batshit crazy creationist and I pitied those who believed in the kind of nonsense you can find in Conservapedia. I believe now (and I'm pretty sure I can make a good case for this) that religious faith is inherently intellectually dishonest, but if someone here or anywhere else has faith and doesn't go around shoving it down people's throats or being jerks (BTW, they can't be jerks. First Peter 3:15-16) or harming anyone, it's not my place to harass them. So what I'm saying is, lets disagree but lets not be jerks. Biblical literalism is demonstrably incompatible with reality itself, so it's, by definition, insanity. It's hard not to mock literalists, but as I said I don't think they come here often, and even if they do, lets keep it as civil as we can. Love and tolerance are just empty words if we can't disagree with each other without arguing. Do I think believing in an afterlife is unjustified? Yes, but if any of you believes in something like that I don't think any less of you. We simply disagree about that and we can still be pals. |
| PowerToole #982998 5 months ago |
>most bronies are
*unbelievers* |
| dudemang #983465 5 months ago |
From what I understand, even if the "unicorn" in question existed, they didn't look anything like what they do in MLP. |
| Anonymous #983500 5 months ago |
How did we get all the way to this biblical stuff? I contend that there are no true christians anymore. If there were, then we'd have a lot more people put to the sword for not converting, being homosexual, being rude to their parents, etc. |
| dudemang #983678 5 months ago |
^ I suppose that would depend on what your definition of a "true" Christian is.
Which no one will agree on, no matter what it is. :p Honestly, it's pointless. |
| Xuncu #983819 5 months ago |
lolz |
| Anonymous #983831 5 months ago |
^How do you get into heaven (be a christian), follow Jesus and the Father (John 3:15). How do you follow Jesus and God? Easy, follow the laws put down by Moses (Matt 5:17-19,27, Luke 16:17, 2 Tim 3:16, 2 Peter 20-21, John 1:17, 10:35, 7:19) What are the laws of Moses? Deuteronomy and Leviticus which includes killing homosexuals, unruly children, infidels, people who work on Sunday, etc. |
| dudemang #983890 5 months ago |
^
*yawn* If you say so. |
| Anonymous #984972 5 months ago |
^Not a Christian. |
| dudemang #985996 5 months ago |
^ Of course not. Did I say I was? :/
I'm probably closest to a nihilist, and even then I kind of hesitate to adopt that label. |
| bamakid1272 #986019 5 months ago |
Oh hey, I come back and there's a huge debate. Greaaaat.
But seriously, 831 be trolling. Hard. Jesus kinda scratched out the whole "kill nonbelievers" thing. In case you didn't know, one of the foundations of real Christianity is to LOVE everyone, even your enemy (of course, you don't have to like them, but I really don't feel like getting tha in depth on ponibooru of all places). For example, in my personal opinion, yes, I believe Homosexuality is a sin. But that's it, a sin. Because someone is homosexual, that doesn't totally make them evil. I'm friends with people who are, and even though I disagree with their lifestyle, I respect their choice to live that way. Despite what certain nutjobs believe (I'm looking at you, Westboro), God still loves everyone. It really is like a father-child relationship. Does a father like it when a child goes against their will. No. But do they stop loving them? Hell no they don't. And Toole is right, you can't force any religion down someone's throat. You can talk to them and try to convince them to convert, but you can't force it. It's their choice to make. I respect atheists' choice to believe what they believe. But just like toole has a problem with fundalmentalists, I have a problem with radical atheists. Claiming I'm an incompetent idiot just because I believe in a god is a load of bull. Just like how I respect your choice to be atheist, you should respect my choice to be a believer. |
| Anonymous #987618 5 months ago |
019: I'd have no problem doing that if your beliefs didn't have such a bad track record. As well as that you're allowing yourselves to be played into acting out a script that ends as a Bloody Tragedy. |
| Anonymous #989060 5 months ago |
If you check the biblical sources that 831 posted, Jesus says in the quoted scripture that you must still follow the law, to include killing those that the law has prescribed must die. To say that you should stop loving them because you must kill them is rightly incorrect.
But the FACT remains that the bible, the word of your god, specifically states that if you want to enter heaven, you must follow his laws. And his law includes genocide. So you don't want to do what your god says must be done. Okay by me, I don't want religious psychos trying to kill me. But you will never enter your heaven by half-assing what is prescribed to get there. You may believe your god loves everyone. It's still the same god that commanded Abraham to kill his son (j/k lol). Or made a pact with Jephthah to sacrifice his daughter (which he did *sad face*). The same god that has commanded the genocide of of entire cities in Canaan. In the end, you may have a loving god that wants the best for his children. But he also wants his kids to follow his rules. And his rules are not savory in the least. |
| dudemang #989399 5 months ago |
Anonymous said: Oh, you mean you're the one that decides that in the end? And here I was thinking God would be the one to decide that, y'know, given the supposed role that Christianity puts him in. It's good to know we're in such good hands, and not at the whim of some arbitrary moral dictum. Oh, wait, that goes both ways. herpa derp |
| Anonymous #990408 5 months ago |
^The fact that, not only do you not get it, but that you explain why you don't get it is amazing.
1. The bible is the word of god. 2. The bible says that to get to heaven you most follow gods laws. 2a. The law includes loving your neighbor. 2b. The law includes killing your neighbor if he is the wrong religion. 3. People claim to be christian, BUT, they can break all of their god's rules and not suffer any consequences, but also still get rewarded despite it. If a parent says not to eat cookies before dinner or you will be punished. Then you eat cookies before dinner. Your loving parents will put you in timeout. They still love you, but you were warned. The bible, the word of god, says, "here are the rules, if you follow them then you get into heaven but if you don't then I'll have to punish you in hell." Therefore to be a christian, you have to follow the rules that tell you to kill people just as much as you must follow the rules that tell you to love them. |
| dudemang #990690 5 months ago |
^ No, I understand it just fine. I don't agree with it, but it's a battle long lost anyhow. |
| bamakid1272 #991452 5 months ago |
^^ Ummm, last time I checked, the whole point of Jesus was "Ok, I died for you. Now you can still get into heaven even if you've done wrong." And yes, we're still punished for doing wrong. You get punished in life, kinda like a Christian Karma system.
Also there's your rewards in heaven. In Christianity, you get into heaven by accepting Christ as your savior and asking for forgiveness for your sins. Congratulations, you get heaven. However, there's also how great your rewards are in heaven, which are affected by your deeds on earth. As far as how legitimate that second part is, I'm not sure. I haven't really delved into it, but I remember reading a few verses along those lines. And on killing non-believers, that's when you can't take ALL verses literally. When I think about taking the Bible literally, I agree, because I'm think on how Jesus rose from the dead. He literally came back to life. But these verses aren't supposed to be. Really, they are talking about how God will punish them, not us. We're also sinners, so what right do we have? I won't lie, I'm no expert on this, so I won't act like it, but here's one argument http://www.rationalchristianity.net/slay_enemies.html that supports my what I'm saying. Look, in short, I believe realizing your a sinner, being saved, and asking for forgiveness gets one into heaven (truly meaning it, of course). Your deeds and such will affect how greatly you are rewarded on earth and in heaven. |
| Anonymous #993190 5 months ago |
^You're* a sinner. You are going to hell for failing teh grammar. |
| Anonymous #993504 5 months ago |
^^If you think you can just say that the law is not literal, you are crazy. I could understand someone saying "let there be light" being an allegory for the big bang because primitive people couldn't understand something as awesome as quantum physics. God commands you to "love your neighbor as yourself." Leviticus 19:18 But when God tells you "If a man has sex with another man, kill them both their blood is on their own heads." Lev 20:13 That is a commandment to kill, not to judge, not to hate, not to stop loving the sinner, but you still have to follow the law. God does not change over time, he was right to begin with. "I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed." Malachi 3:6 "God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" Numbers 23:19
And just because Jesus has created another covenant, does not mean that it replaces the old covenant, it means it is in addition to the old covenant. To be rewarded by God you must follow his laws AND accept his Son as your savior to wash away your sins. It's not like now that you have Jesus you can suddenly worship false idols, work on Sunday, kill random people, lie, cheat, steal, and break all of the rest of the commandments. Jesus isn't a get into heaven free card. He is a step 1, the light that shows the way. You still have to complete the rest of your commitments. Besides that, Jesus explicitly states that you have still have to follow the law even after you accept him. "It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law." Luke 16:17 "If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out."Mark 9:43-44 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness" 2 Timothy 3:16 "Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?" John 7:19 |
| dudemang #995817 5 months ago |
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| fonypag #995902 5 months ago |
Being raised Christian, I'm confident when I say that the Bible doesn't prescribe us to kill each other for our sins. Yes, it does say to do that in the Old Testament, but all those various laws are basically there to say the following: men are sinners, and the wages of sin is death. The law sucks ass as it pretty much mandates that we all die, but in dying on the cross, Jesus took that punishment upon himself so that we might be redeemed to God.
For all who rely on works of the law are munder a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged uon a tree”— so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith. If you want a more direct message clarifying that we don't have to kill each other... But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. Early in the morning he came again to the temple. All the people came to him, and che sat down and taught them. The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst they said to him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now din the Law Moses commanded us eto stone such women. So what do you say?” This they said to test him, gthat they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. Jesus stood up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.” |
| fonypag #995919 5 months ago |
Pardon the misspellings. I copy-paste'd these and deleted the various verse numbers and footnote markers, but I missed a few, resulting in some misspelled words ("munder," "eto"). |
| Anonymous #996335 5 months ago |
^I'm not going to read your copy-pasta of other peoples' thoughts. If you can't think for yourself, you are not worth even talking to. |
| dudemang #996396 5 months ago |
^ nice ad hom bro |
| fonypag #996450 5 months ago |
@335
I thought it was clear from the context and language, but what I copy-paste'd was passages from the Bible, which I don't think is unreasonable given the point of discussion. |
| Zincy #996473 5 months ago |
A theological cluster-fuck and no one invited me? I must have slept through this. |
| bamakid1272 #996799 5 months ago |
Ha it's funny, we were watching the movie Inherit the Wind in history class today, and when Drummond was using the Bible, my teacher asked "So, do any of you take the entire Bible literally?" No one raised their hands. And yes, it is a Christian school. No, I became a Christian before going there. And also, it's actually not some radical establishment like one might expect. If it was, do you really think I'd be bringing them up, against someone taking the Bible MORE literally. Our history teacher does criticize many parts of how the church acted in American (in othere words, I'm not talking about the Catholic church's past) history, but he is very much a devout Christian. Just saying that before someone blasts me with "O CHRISTIAN SKOOL U BEIN BRAINWASHED!!11"
Anyways, @504 yes plenty of things in the Bible aren't allegories and are quite literal. Now when the law is being simple, like in the Ten Commandments, of course it is literal. But sometimes, the wording isn't meant to be literal and is actually a metaphor or allegory. It also doesn't help that the Bible was originally in Hebrew, so some things wouldn't be taken the same way in English. Like in Mark 9:43-44, if you actually think Jesus is telling you to literally go cut off your hand, then something's wrong. However, you are right, that we can't just turn around and start worshipping idols and such, but then again, I repeat, you get in by truly meaning it. If you truly mean it, you should want to do right and be more Christ-like. If someone claims to be Christian, but doesn't at all try to follow God, then no, they aren't really a Christian. However, what I mean is that one can be forgiven for what they do wrong. He forgave Saul, didn't he? He forgave Solomon, didn't he? So yes, thanks to Jesus, we can be forgiven for everything we've done wrong and still enter heaven. If you honestly think we are damned if we don't follow the law to the T, then you would fit right in with groups like Westboro. |
| Anonymous #996907 5 months ago |
799: "However, you are right, that we can't just turn around and start worshipping idols and such"
Praying to the Cross and using a Church as a space in which to offer your prayers are forms of Idol Worship. |
| dudemang #999546 5 months ago |
^
>Praying to the Cross Don't Christians pray to God? >using a Church that's just a place of worship your definition of idol worship is dumb |
| Anonymous #1000393 5 months ago |
@dudemang ad hominem is an attack to the character instead of an argument. Refusing to argue is called something else.
But nice to see everyone talking past each other. No one except some random anons and maybe bama are actually arguing points. The rest of the named people are throwing out anecdotes and "I was taught" instead of debating. |
| Anonymous #1001132 5 months ago |
To accept Jesus is to follow the path of the righteous, the laws of God as set down by Moses. None may follow the Father or the Son who will not do violence on their behalf.
Brother will betray brother to death, and the father his child; children will turn against their parents and send them to their death. All will hate you for your allegiance to me; but the man who holds out to the end will be saved….You must not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a son’s wife against her mother-in-law; and a man will find his enemies under his own roof. No man is worthy of me who cares more for father or mother than for me; no man is worthy of me who cares for son or daughter; no man is worthy of me who does not take up his cross and walk in my footsteps. By gaining his life a man will lose it; by losing his life for my sake, he will gain it.Matthew 10:21-22, 34-39 You must be ready to defend your faith even if it means your death. Jesus said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one..." The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords." "That is enough," he replied.Luke 22:36,38 |
| Anonymous #1001242 5 months ago |
546: Prayer itself is a form of Magical Invocation. As such, you are being hypocritical whenever you condemn other beliefs that use Magic and Invocation. Just another example of the Contradictions inherent in Christianity, it only reinforces the point that the Religion is so full of Contradictions and Cognitive Dissonance that belief in it can only be maintained if one does not Question: Which is of course a basic tenant of the Christian Ideal of Faith. Christian Faith can only be maintained if one ignores or eliminates anything that calls Faith into Question. It's a deliberately constructed Psychological Prison, suppose Christianity conquered the World? More than likely, it would implode in on itself, because at the same time as the belief's of others are attacked: They are used as a distraction from internal conflict that Christianity creates in it's adherents. With no distraction from this, the members of that Faith would psychologically fragment. You know, A Crisis of Faith? |
| CaravanPalace #1001321 5 months ago |
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| dudemang #1001631 5 months ago |
Anonymous said: Right, so, "If you can't think for yourself, you are not worth even talking to." obviously doesn't qualify as addressing a characteristic of or making a judgement on the person in question making the argument. Anon said: I've honestly never heard that argument and I don't find it convincing. Anon said: That's the same old tired generalizing rhetoric I've heard atheists spout endlessly over and over that's true in some sense and false in another. also what the heck is up with your pronouns Anon said: I've heard more benign interpretations of the passage you quoted, notably that it just means that division is inevitable if you choose to follow Christ. (Man, is that ever true.) Kinda like one of those "the righteous will suffer" type deals. Between these two interpretations, there's no way to determine the validity of one over the other, so I summarily dismiss both. Anon said: In a similar vein, commentaries chalk this up to literal interpretations on the disciples' part, and again, without any real way to validate it, I can only dismiss both. |
| Anonymous #1004002 5 months ago |
Jesus is obviously schizophrenic. He's talks about peace and love then talks about or does violence (maybe that just makes him a hypocrite). Banker or fig tree (watch out Fluttershy!), none are safe from his wrath! |
| Anonymous #1080796 4 months ago |
Since Jesus never existed nobeliefs.com/exist.htm this entire conversation is moot. |
| Anonymous #1310287 2 months ago |
Oh yeah, because the bible is 100% historically acurate... except for all the times it's not. |