
| HeinousActsZX #960317 5 months ago |
Angel's really hangin' on there. |
| Anonymous #960342 5 months ago |
too cute... |
| Kokopure #960366 5 months ago |
I think these are pretty neat.
I also notice you rarely see people getting bent out of shape when characters are dressed as nuns... |
| Saufsoldat #960393 5 months ago |
@366: Mostly because nuns are nuns out of their own free will and nobody considers non-nuns to be immodest or beats them until they behave like proper nuns or murders them if they stop being nuns.
Now muslim women on the other hand... No such luck, I'm afraid. |
| Clopitor_the_Hydrogenous #960395 5 months ago |
Is that Philomena? |
| Abou #960416 5 months ago |
Heh, it's a good thing we don't reduce everything to horrible generalisations and stereotypes, or we'd all be raving spastics like Saufsoldat. |
| Anonymous #960443 5 months ago |
@#960393
Hey white boy. Get the fuck out of the internet for a moment and have a look around you. |
| RealityCheck #960446 5 months ago |
well now we know why she's so shy and reclusive. If her family ever finds out about her modeling career they'll stone her to death in a ritual killing. |
| Saufsoldat #960450 5 months ago |
@416: Islam says to beat disobedient women and execute apostates. That's no generalization or stereotype, that's the religion of Islam.
The marriage of western leftists and Islam has to be one of the strangest phenomena of the 20th century. Few ideologies could be more diametrically opposed, yet I see self-proclaimed liberals defending Islam as though it weren't misogynystic, homophobic and completely intolerant. |
| Saufsoldat #960454 5 months ago |
@443: I just got home, did I miss something?
Also, what's with the latent racism? |
| fonypag #960462 5 months ago |
And the Torah says to throw disobedient children off the city walls to their deaths.
And yet I don't go around labeling Jews as child-murderers. |
| they_call_me_bob #960471 5 months ago |
I don't want to live on this planet anymore. |
| Anonymous #960493 5 months ago |
See, you might have a point if Jews were actually doing that this day and age. Muslim women ARE beaten everyday for not behaving or looking "as they should" based on what the Quran says. |
| Anonymous #960494 5 months ago |
@#960446
here's a true reality check: Osama Bin Laden's Arab-American niece is a photomodel with nudes during her cereer. Also:
These are some Turkish photo models. You know... like Turks, the most void-of-empathy and most genociding subhumans on the globe that incidentally are also muslim. They killed Armenians, Greeks and Kurds by the hundreds of thousands and don't even feel the need to say sorry about it. If islam was as backwards as you describe it then those girls would be dead long ago. |
| Saufsoldat #960510 5 months ago |
@462: Go ahead and ask Jews whether they agree with stoning children. Then go around asking muslims if they believe apostates should be put to death.
Oh wait, someone already did the latter.
So then, Islam is not in any way, shape or form to blame for those numbers? Come on, be creative. I'm sure we can pin this on the US, Jews, or imperialism if we just try hard enough. |
| Xersist #960512 5 months ago |
Ohhh ya, just the way I like my women, Ashamed of thier bodies, opperessed, quiet, and at home making me a sammich.. |
| Anonymous #960521 5 months ago |
"here's a true reality check: Osama Bin Laden's Arab-American niece is a photomodel with nudes during her cereer. "
So are we ignoring the fact that she was born in American and lives in London? |
| Anonymous #960526 5 months ago |
^So you say that social retardation is relevant to religious fundamentalism? Big Fucking NEWS! protip: at some point "we" burnt maidens for talking with animals. |
| Anonymous #960532 5 months ago |
@#960521
Did she denounce that she is muslim or something? |
| Anonymous #960541 5 months ago |
>I'm sure we can pin this on the US, Jews, or imperialism if we just try hard enough.
Sure. We can also use fundamentalism to justify bombing people for oil, expanding borders, isolating natives in ghettos and installing shockpuppet goverments. |
| Anonymous #960543 5 months ago |
Well given she won't tour in the middle east for fearing that “someone would want to kill me.” |
| Anonymous #960551 5 months ago |
lol I love Muslim Fluttershy, it always brings out the idiots. |
| Anonymous #960554 5 months ago |
I honestly don't think Islam would fit Fluttershy at all. That's the problem.
She's shy and helpless, but those points don't define a muslim woman. Plus, Fluttershy loves dogs and pigs too. |
| Saufsoldat #960573 5 months ago |
@526: Please don't say "we", I most certainly never had anything to do with killing another human being.
Am I supposed to tolerate people being backwards and hurting others just because my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather might have agreed with them? Sorry, I'm not into original sin. Oh and don't hate on fundamentalism. To (loosely) quote Sam Harris: "The only problem with islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam." |
| Anonymous #960711 5 months ago |
Hmm, well, she's already on welfare/unemployed, so all she needs now is to be grossly overrepresented in criminal statistics, refuse to speak the earth pony language, and express extreme hostility to Princess Celestia and the earth pony traditions, and she'll be all set. Welfare-checku ackbar. |
| WatermelonRat #960793 5 months ago |
" Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)"
"You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)" "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)" "Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)" "But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)" "Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)" I'm sure you'll try to brush this off as "oh but we don't do THAT anymore!" but in underdeveloped, socially backwards areas in subsaharan Africa, the middle-east (yes, there are Christians there), and India, these types of things do happen. My problem isn't that you're denouncing these things, it's that you're assigning them to all muslims while trying to claim that Christians are guiltless. |
| Anonymous #960799 5 months ago |
>"The only problem with islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam."
see: >#960462 Not any abrahamic religion is squeeky clean in its "fundamentals". Also: "Oh and don't hate on fundamentalism." WTF dude?! Should I fucking tolerate witch hunting, bombing abortion clinics and forcing creationist mythology as cosmological truth in our educational system just because its not muslim?! In what fucking redneck shithole does that even make sense?! |
| WatermelonRat #960812 5 months ago |
^^Except Muslim-Americans are one of the most well-integrated immigrant groups and are mostly middle-class. D'OH! There are those pesky facts interfering with stereotypes again! |
| Anonymous #960841 5 months ago |
^^^He was probably reffering too European muslims. Here in Europe racism and discrimination is not intergrated enough in our legislations (for example there never was a law forcing black people to sit at the back of the bus) so foreigners can take full advantage of our equal opportunity system. |
| Anonymous #960876 5 months ago |
Just wanted to add that I have plenty of muslim friends (all female) who are proud of their heritage and feel really awful when people dismiss them as wannabe terrorists and misogynists. Yes, there ARE people who are crazy in Islam. But you can't stand there and tell me there aren't crazy people in EVERY religion. Christian abortion clinic bombers, anyone?
My point is that while a portion of muslims do oppress and hurt women, horribly (I've read about honor killings and such), not ALL of them are like that. Does that excuse the behavior? No. But just because some do it doesn't mean you're allowed to make sweeping generalizations. |
| Anonymous #960893 5 months ago |
^ In my country most muslim girls respect the teachings of Quran so they avoid pre-marital intercourse but the Q'uran states nothing about anal -_o. Can you confirm or hopelessely friendzoned? |
| Saufsoldat #960898 5 months ago |
@793: There's this "we" again, as though I had anything to do with religion. I'm a non-religious, agnostic, materialistic atheist. I do not believe any of this superstitious hogwash.
While all religions are equally untrue, not all are equally harmless. People can believe whatever they want, that's not my concern. It becomes my concern when those nutjobs force their beliefs on me. Christianity is a problem and still a force for evil in the world (gay marriage, abortion, creationism, eroding secularism, etc) but Islam is all that and much, much more. The worst part is that while criticizing christianity is perfectly acceptable, criticizing Islam is almost a taboo in left-wing circles. The existence of the word "islamophobia" alone speaks volumes about the victim complex of muslims. Too many people have bought into the "religion of peace" nonsense. It's a general issue with religious people feeling entitled special privileges that no other ideology would ever get. If you had an ideology with all the same values that Islam has and only took away the references to god or the supernatural, you would have a doctrine as disgusting as "Mein Kampf", but somehow adding "I believe it because my imaginary friend told me so" is supposed to make it better. @799: Try fundamentalist Jainism. Unlike Islam, it's an actual religion of peace and the more nutty the followers get, the more pacifistic and harmless they are. If fundamentalism is a problem, that only means the religion is shit to begin with. |
| Morbi #960939 5 months ago |
...Okay, I'm honestly just downright amused at how much reaction this has gotten within two hours of being posted. |
| Anonymous #960963 5 months ago |
@There's this "we" again, as though I had anything to do with religion.
@Oh and don't hate on fundamentalism. To (loosely) quote Sam Harris: "The only problem with islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam." Way to contradict yourself, moron. |
| Saufsoldat #960974 5 months ago |
@963: Are you drunk? How does quoting Sam Harris make me religious? |
| Anonymous #960991 5 months ago |
>The worst part is that while criticizing christianity is perfectly acceptable, criticizing Islam is almost a taboo in left-wing circles
So is anti-semetism, kid. The fact that Christians are the dominant majority in the west and that it's mostly the leftwing trying to persuade Turkey recognize christian-targeting genocides, don't say anything to you? |
| Anonymous #961012 5 months ago |
>#960974
"I am a secular human being and religious fundamentalism is the cause of religious groups' wrong-doings". "Don't hate fundamentalism, just hate Islam." |
| Anonymous #961061 5 months ago |
Sometimes you have to tolerate even the views of idiots, because they out number you. |
| Saufsoldat #961074 5 months ago |
@991: Anti-Semitism is primarily concerned with race, not religion. You'll find that criticizing Judaism is perfectly acceptable everywhere. Also, sadly anti-semitism is on the rise among the left, usually disguised as irrational hatred of Israel.
Christian-targeting genocide? Genocide means trying to kill a race or ethnicity of people, not a religion. Recognition of the Armenian genocide is pushed by all parts of the political spectrum. Especially conservatives, since they always look for more reasons not to let Turkey join the EU (although lately, Turkey's been doing a great job itself with the way Erdogan is whoring out to dictators and breaking diplomatic ties to Israel). |
| Saufsoldat #961087 5 months ago |
@012: Is there a reason that you seem to be quoting me? I never said either of those things. |
| Anonymous #961501 5 months ago |
http://mynationalistpony.tumblr.com/ |
| Anonymous #961574 5 months ago |
@#961074
>Erdogan is whoring out to dictators That was the most stupid and hypocritical mumble about Turkey I've ever heard. For half a century Turkey was a series of successive juntas and puppet goverments of the military and you were okey with it just because they kissed your ass (assuming you are American or even Israeli) and hide their islam under the rug. Now that, thanks to Erdogan, they have a populist and trully democratic governing suddenly they are "whoring out to dictators" because they don't pretend to be self-hating muslims and they don't applaud you for butchering ragheads? |
| Anonymous #961599 5 months ago |
@#961087
>I never said either of those things >I'm a non-religious, agnostic, materialistic atheist. I do not believe any of this superstitious hogwash. >Oh and don't hate on fundamentalism. To (loosely) quote Sam Harris: "The only problem with islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam." Are you brain-damaged or something? |
| Anonymous #962033 5 months ago |
Jesus Christ how horrifying |
| Doctor_Whooves #962105 5 months ago |
@#961599: Anyone that can claim to be both agnostic and a materialistic atheist at the same time must be brain damaged, yeah.
On this inane topic, Islam is no worse than any contemporaneous religion, IMO. It's texts certainly feature some barbarous practices that don't fit in the civilized world, but the same is true of the other Abrahamic faiths; and Christianity and Judaism have both been around far longer than Islam. They've had more time to stablize, and they had the benefit of evolving in the same region as modern western civilization. Christianity went through its own barbarous period, though, and in its heyday there were probably far more insane Christians (relative to the total number of them) as there are insane Muslims in today's world (again, relative to the total number of Muslims on Earth). That said, I'm an Atheist and don't believe in any of them. But none is worse than any of the others. Although the modern monotheistic God is a hell of a lot more boring than the ancient Pantheons that preceeded him; now those were gods that knew how to party. |
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| Anonymous #962407 5 months ago |
@#962105
Anyone that can claim to be both agnostic and a materialistic atheist at the same time must be brain damaged WTF are you talking about about?! Is this one of your bad anon vs good namefag circle-jerk reflex? Read again the comment and READ THE COMMENTS IT REPLIES TO before you quote-mine something totally out of context. |
| Anonymous #962428 5 months ago |
@#962407
Never mind Doc I probably am the one who misunderstood and reacted reflexively. I am probably to tired to identify irony at this moment. Leaving to prevent myself saying something stupid. Just for the record: no I don't think being both an agnostic and a materialistic atheist is mutually exclusive as long as you use more inclusive context of the terms and you make a dinstiction between spititual disposition and way-of-life/ideological affinities/social stance. |
| Anonymous #962433 5 months ago |
^also pardon mai grammer |
| Anonymous #962437 5 months ago |
Kinda crazy how this entire discussion generated from this picture o.0
-First of all, Awesome pic Posey! -Second, Islam does not justify the abuse/oppression of women or those who leave Islam; There is absolutely no mention of either of these claims within the Quran (so-called "muslims" who claim/practice this and state that Islam demands or justifies this either seriously misguided or trying to twist Islam's teachings to suit their own insane agenda). -Finally, Islam advocates both freedom of religion and freedom of conscious (which IS supported in the Quran [example: chapter 18 "this is the truth from your lord, let whoever wishes to believe in it, and whoever wishes, to reject it" or chapter 2 "let there be no compulsion in religion"]). Those who practice REAL Islam (free from modern-day political biases) easily understand that Islam is a religion that preaches the love and tolerance of others (and their decisions on how to live their lives). (Btw I know all this because I am a proud Muslim-American brony.) |
| Saufsoldat #963801 5 months ago |
@574: I'm neither Israeli nor US-American, but thanks for making unfounded assumptions. Erdogan and Assad were butt-buddies until the pressure from Assad slaughtering his own people got too much. Erdogan still wiggles his ass towards Iran and Hamas. The whole flotilla dilemma shows how much of an Egogan he is and how he'll put his own pride before the truth and before the good of the nation.
Practicing Realpolitik and honoring the fact that you're living in a secular nation does not make you "self-loathing muslim". Making friends with dictators and terrorists does not make you a good muslim. @599: There is no contradiction whatsoever here. The first statement is that what I believe, to preempt the retarded "well your religion is also stupid" comments that are bound to follow whenever you criticize Islam. The second statement is a statement about fundamentalism and it says that if fundamentalism of religion X is a problem, then that's not the fault of fundamentalism itself, but rather of the fundamentals of the religion X. Two easy examples are Islam and Jainism. Islamic fundamentalists blow themselves up, commit honor-killings, etc. Fundamentalist Jains observe the ground the whole time when they're walking to avoid stepping on a bug and filter every drop of water they drink so they don't accidentally swallow any small creatures. How can one say that fundamentalism itself is the problem, regardless of religion then? @105: Atheism: Lack of belief in gods. Agnosticism: Lack of knowledge concerning the existence or non-existence of gods. Materialism: Lack of belief in anything supernatural. Now obviously materialism includes atheism, but I don't want to make people who don't know the word look it up, so I wrote both. Agnosticism is by no means mutually exclusive with either of the other terms. But don't let your ignorance about epistemology stop you from insulting other people. @437: You call yourself a muslims without knowing the Quran? Tsk, tsk, tsk. Or did this verse just slip your mind? Clear-cut abuse of women. |
| Doctor_Whooves #963842 5 months ago |
By that definition of agnosticism, everyone who's ever lived is agnostic, the term would be moot, and you may as well not even mention it. Agnosticism has to include an acknowledgement that any hard fact regarding the existence of gods or the supernatural is unknown. Any religious person would never acknowledge such a thing, as most are able to find "proof" of some sort that satisfies them, which they expect should satisfy anyone.
And IMO, if you acknowledge that it's truly unknown, and probably never can be known, then it's altogether pointless to maintain a belief (or lack of one, in the case of Atheism) on the subject. Of course you can, if you want. Anyone is entitled to believe any kind of nonsense they please, as religion itself proves well enough. But there's still little point. |
| Saufsoldat #963883 5 months ago |
@842: I doubt religious people would agree that they're agnostic, most claim to have knowledge of the existence of god.
Belief and knowledge are two entirely different things. Everyone is either theist or atheist, because belief is an automatism of the brain. If you're not a theist, you're an atheist and vice versa, there's nothing in-between. |
| Anonymous #964606 5 months ago |
>Cute picture of humanised Fluttershy
>Endless torrents of idiocy and lies I wish I was surprised. |
| Saufsoldat #965347 5 months ago |
That's another thing, the picture isn't cute. If it weren't for the hijab, nobody would give it a second look. No, I couldn't do it better but how the hell is this a good picture? All the facial features are just disturbing and if it weren't for the color of the clothes, nobody would be able to recognize this as Fluttershy. |
| Morbi #965497 5 months ago |
Oh man, did it seriously take twenty hours for someone to actually bother attacking the picture itself after this stupid argument broke out?
That's actually pretty funny. |
| Posey #976493 5 months ago |
The picture looks cute to me.
...People can't just make cute pics of humanizations in hijabs, now can they? |
| Posey #976538 5 months ago |
..This thread needs something..
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