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Yorec
#928309
5 months ago
What could possibly go wrong?
Anonymous
#928314
5 months ago
^Sweetie Bell screws things up.
Some_Anon
#928323
5 months ago
This won't end well...
Anonymous
#928328
5 months ago
sweetie belle eyes off her prey...
CogWeaver
#928342
5 months ago
...I don't like that look on Sweetie Belle's face...
Fuzzy_Logic
#928350
5 months ago
sweetie belle and the CMC are gonna hook dan up with big macintosh
FinalGamerJames
#928352
5 months ago
Sweetie Belle is watching you 8|
NightJack
#928369
5 months ago
Sweetie is going to get the CMC and they will try getting a "human hogtie" cutie mark, or something.
AnHornyMoose
#928428
5 months ago
Her eyes seem to say: spanking time
Tidal_Wave
#928506
5 months ago
Dan, no hurting Rarity or Sweetie Belle!

Sweetie Belle, no playing with the pink thing that walks on two feet!
Anonymous
#928552
5 months ago
Sweetie: Soon...
Anonymous
#928603
5 months ago
Sweetie poos
CronoM
#928607
5 months ago
Teach Karkat- I mean Dan manners? Good luck.
CogWeaver
#928681
5 months ago
^At least there's a slight possibility with Dan.
Karkat? no way.
CronoM
#928995
5 months ago
^True. While Dan was based on Karkat, fowl language comes as natural to breathing to Karkat...quite literally in fact. With Dan, at least there are some limits to his anger.
doc_steedly
#929206
5 months ago
Sweetie's Plotting somethin...
Anonymous
#929296
5 months ago
STOP COMPARING DAN AND KARKAT, THEY AREN'T THE SAME THING AT ALL!

KARKAT HAS HORNS, DAN DOESN'T.
DhanaRagnarok
#929340
5 months ago
Seriously - this is an awesome crossover. This could be a gosh-darned episode of the show! xD
SomeponyTheVectorer
#929494
5 months ago
Yes Twilight, take Rainbow to the "nurse"!
trueblue02
#929503
5 months ago
i guarantee that whenever Twi comes back thru that door, she will wish she didn't....
CronoM
#930072
5 months ago
Aboveanon is hilariously small minded XD
Never even heard of humanification before.
Anonymous
#936452
5 months ago
^
CronoM is so hilariously paranoid XD
Believing the invention of a character who hates everything is anthing new.

The world ran out of new ideas decades ago, now it's just reuse and recycle.
CronoM
#937423
5 months ago
^ Oh jeez... copycatting? Am I talking to toddlers?

Same black t-shirt and they didn't even change Karkat's teeth even though Dan is human. While I love Dan, I kind of wish they didn't take their parody of Karkat that ridiculously far, but they did it anyway. Paranoia and common sense aren't the same thing.

The black t-shirt was to make the character familiar.

The sharp, rounded teeth along with the black t-shirt was to make the familiarity COMPLETELY OBVIOUS to anyone with common sense.

I'm not saying that the character that hates everything is anything new. How could you even suggest that? What I'm saying is that Dan WAS based directly on Karkat. Not any other angry at everything guys, just Dan.

And this is not any sort of ripping off the little man kind of thing. In the eyes of the producers it was absolute rational decision.

In mid 2010, Hivebent was introduced with the introduction of Karkat. Over the next 1 or 2 months, the fandom exploded in size with the intro to all these new characters, and Karkat became the most well known one. The people at the Hub are more observant of internet trends then some other stations. Tons of people loved the short, insecure, black-shirted, sharp teethed, nice guy deep down guy that could only rage whenever he opened his mouth.

So 5-6 months later, in Jan 2011, Dan vs. appears with their own short, insecure, black-shirted, sharp teethed, nice guy deep down guy who practically rages every time he opens his mouth.
cyber95
#942625
5 months ago
^Holy shit you are the worst kind of Homestuck fan. The kind who believes that Homestuck is so much more important than it actually is.
CronoM
#942850
5 months ago
^ Again, people rebutting without anything to prove my points otherwise. Only insults and baseless accusations; mere guesses that I can't even measure how popular Homestuck is and how popular Homestuck isn't. No proof, and not even evidence.

Completely worthless.
B2C
#942868
5 months ago
What's Homestruck? Isn't that thing the guy who does Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff does?
cyber95
#943488
5 months ago
Dan has been described by the creators as "Calvin grown up if his life had really screwed up somewhere"
They have never mentioned Karkat at any point.
His teeth are to emphasise his impishness.
And a black shirt is a fucking black shirt. How the FUCK do you run with "He wears a black shirt" as part of your evidence!?
A short angry guy is not new.
Jerk With A Heart Of Gold is an entire fucking TROPE.
Yes, the characters are similar, but saying that means that Dan is definitely based on Karkat is absolutely retarded.

There. A proper rebuttal. Are you satisfied, or are you going to decide that my rebuttal is worthless, because I know how pretty impossible it is to convince a determined idiot.
CronoM
#943741
5 months ago
^^ Good one XD

^ Why are you so desperate to disprove me? Seems rather pointless when you're doing a better job of discrediting your side that I am. Especially if your so easily angered by a little debate that you called me an idiot(real mature by the way), even though my side is backed up by rationality and statistics, while yours can be disproven immediately.

Seriously, look at your list again.

Black t-shirt and exact same teeth is the process of stealing a character design.

http://kichigai.deviantart.com/art/Dan-Vs-Karkat-202942957

Jerk with a heart of Gold is different from borderline Clinomorphism and all caps rage.
Calvin? Seriously, that's what they say? You don't believe in lies of omission? That's pretty naive. I've seen lies of omission in official animations all the time, several times in MLP characters alone when in comes to creating a character.

Just calm down dude. If you want to believe its all a statistically improbable coincidence, I'm not going to force you. I admit there is a small possibility your right. But its just rather unlikely.
cyber95
#943829
5 months ago
I'm sorry. People like you make me upset at the world. I'm going to drop it now because you've made it clear that the creators could walk up to you and tell you you're wrong, and you wouldn't believe them.
cyber95
#943832
5 months ago
Also it looks like I'm arguing with a brick wall which continues to reflect poorly on me anyways so
CronoM
#943890
5 months ago
Of course, you guys could try to say you KNOW you are right about this, but that would be true egotism. In my experiance, egoists are truly insufferable. I mean, what's wrong with admitting you could be wrong?
Anonymous
#948862
5 months ago
^
CronoM, I'm starting to think this whole conversation was meant as trollbit

(cue last horse crossing the finish line)
Anonymous
#948868
5 months ago
^^

Also egotists are people who have an overwhelming sense of self importance.I think your talking about narcissists.
Anonymous
#948881
5 months ago
^^^Also the reason I'm arguing that Dan was not based on Karkat, is strictly because I'm a hedonist who takes pleasure in arguing.
I barely care for the issue at hand.

Although you might wish ask yourself, why you so stubbornly refuse to accept that others might be right.

In other words, The kettle should not call the pot black.

At least that's my opinion.
Psychopomf
#948882
5 months ago
NO SWEETIE BELLE STAY AWAY

HE WILL TURN YOU INTO MEANIE BELLE
Anonymous
#968066
5 months ago
Hey, CronoM. Homestuck sucks! Dan Vs. is great!

End of line.
CronoM
#975388
5 months ago
^ That's your opinion. And a extremely biased and immature one at that. Equally worthless.

^^^ Narcissism is love of oneself and ones features. Egotism is extreme self importance of oneself and one's opinions. If there is an even better word for it, please let me know.

Cyber95 is so convinced I'm wrong and he is right on this minor conversation, he refuses to believe the alternative. He kept on pushing the issue more rudely and with more anger over such a tiny thing. I once lived in an apartment with an egoist or whatever with a similar mentality, and one way to accidentally piss that kind of person off over such a tiny thing is to back their opinions into a corner, projecting themselves by calling me a brick wall or something.

I have outright said that there is a chance that he is right, even though I have given more proof then he did, I fully admit that I might be COMPLETELY wrong. I respect your 'the kettle should not call the pot black' comment, but it was unnecessary. I have long sense kept my ego in check like everyone should.

As for your hedonism, I can't tell if your joking or not. If you truly just want to argue, I won't give it to you. I've met enough immature brats to last me a life time.
Anonymous
#978416
5 months ago
^
Fair enough. Although the "immature brat" comment was low.
cyber95
#979278
5 months ago
I'm pretty sure you never gave any proof. Unless you have shown me evidence of the creators outright stating "Dan is based on Karkat." nothing you've said is proof, merely speculation.
I've stated that the creators said he's kind of a grown up Calvin of sorts, which is a hell of a lot more official statement than anything you've come up with.
cyber95
#979281
5 months ago
Seriously, there was an interview.
http://www.facebook.com/danvsshow?v=app_6009294086

Dan was inspired a bit by Calvin and Hobbes, but mostly inspired by Dan Mandel himself, based on an exaggeration of his own negative qualities.

Please, if you have proof of your own, present it.
Anonymous
#988464
5 months ago
@CronoM: Homestuck is really overrated. Not bad per se, but really, REALLY overrated. And annoying. Not to mention that Homestuck fans make up one of the five most annoying fandoms on the internet (Homestuck, Mass Effect, FIM Bronies, scans_daily, & DC fanboys/girls in general) IMHO, that really get under my skin with the more focal fans' rantings (and I'll admit to being in three of those, so believe me I hear this crap a lot).

But seriously, the belief that a character in a cartoon show MUST be a ripoff of a character in an internet series (and freaking Homestuck no less) based on any similarities, no matter how much straw-grasping is freaking crazy. This isn't like a Superman/Captian Marvel thing, it's just... You have to realize that fandoms on the internet RARELY translate out to much, if anything, in real life.

Not to mention that you really are a wanker: your "evidence" that Dan is based on Karkat would get laughed out of a grade school, you try to play the 'mature-Oh-I'm-Tired-Of-Dealing-With-Internet-Egotists' crap when everything you say is the same damn stuff, and before post #975388, you said NOTHING about any possibility that you might be wrong with your "You might be right, but that is HIGHLY unlikely" crap just being selfserving drek. I shall say this: YOU ARE WRONG. THE CREATORS OF DAN VS. DIDN'T RIP-OFF KARKAT.
Anonymous
#1006614
5 months ago
This argument is over. Both sides have to spend 25 minutes in the tim out square of tolerance.
Anonymous
#1046237
4 months ago
CronoM reminds me of Dan.