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Anonymous
#919226
5 months ago
In my case i forgot to turn on the troll filter
Roboshi
#919232
5 months ago
that wasn't so much a sniper bullet to that complaint but a tactical nuclear strike. You pretty much hit every point equally hard.
CallMeAl
#919236
5 months ago
And all of this posted on the profile of someone no longer associated with the show. We need to leave poor Lauren Faust alone.

Although, a scene of Derpy doing something awesome would be, well, awesome.
Glord
#919241
5 months ago
Give me a few seconds, I'ma give you a llama badge.
Megatron
#919244
5 months ago
Tactical Nuclear strike doesn't do it justice.
Rodman
#919247
5 months ago
@Megatron

More like Exterminatus on the complainer's homeworld.
Glord
#919250
5 months ago
Also it could stand to be a little better put together grammatically.
Imdumb
#919252
5 months ago
He probably shouldn't watch MLP. It's not for the easily offended, just the MANLIEST OF MEN.
Glord
#919257
5 months ago
@Rodman
Anonymous
#919259
5 months ago
Exterminatus on the complainers homeworld? Nah, he blew up their fucking sun.
Anonymous
#919260
5 months ago
A sniper bullet? Nah too small
Nuclear tactical super weapon? Nah, too easy.

GODDAMN OVERKILL, FUCK YEAH

Rainbow_Dude
#919261
5 months ago
@Glord Are you saying I have a bad grammar? If that's so, it's because I'm a foreigner Brony, sorry.
Also, it's 2:30 a.m. where I live. I'm getting too sleepy for translations-_-
Glord
#919270
5 months ago
Just a few mistakes I noticed.

Not too many.
Imdumb
#919279
5 months ago
You're cool Rainbow_Dude. From the rest of the comments, it seems the guys and I should buy you a beer. Nice work using logic on the whiners.
Zincy
#919300
5 months ago
Ah, i missed that bit of ownage. And to think I was wasting my time in the Phil forum, looks like the real logic is happening on LF's page.
MaroonBunyip
#919307
5 months ago
im emedding this whenever someone tries to bring this up the whole retarded derpy thing again.
Rainbow_Dude
#919313
5 months ago
Thanks a lot, Imdumb =)
HeinousActsZX
#919315
5 months ago
@Maroon
"Retarded" is probably not the best word choice here.
Jackarunda
#919319
5 months ago
Lol, these people are almost psychotically oversensitive
Zincy
#919327
5 months ago
There's no shortage of oversensitive idiots on DA, i should know I'm quite good at pissing them off.
TheAntiCat
#919328
5 months ago
Don't worry Rainbow_Dude. You made your points splendidly.
*raises glass* Na zdravie!
Verbose
#919333
5 months ago
I will say that just because this is Pony doesn't mean it's perfect by default and nothing in the should be given a critical eye.

But the logic is nearly infallible in this instance. Well said, Rainbow_Dude.
ZePassionateOne
#919336
5 months ago
Rainbow_Dude
#919347
5 months ago
@TheAntiCat @Verbose
Thanks. I think this may be my greatest deed as a Brony. =)
dudemang
#919352
5 months ago
Yeah, it's cool. Every counterpoint seems present.

Could've been prompter, if I had to criticize anything, but, whatever.
Zincy
#919361
5 months ago
Just a great deed as a brony? Its a great deed as a human to! Anytime someone can shine the light of reason on a fools argument is a momentous occasion. You should stop by the Phil/rel forums if you want some real action.
Anonymous
#919379
5 months ago
Confound that retarded pony! Oh, how I hate her! She drives me to write complaint letters to Hasbro!
Shad0will
#919398
5 months ago
that's a lot of text for a whiner. make it short next time, want you?
Rainbow_Dude
#919418
5 months ago
@Shad0will Well, he said a lot of popycock. I felt like I needed to point out all his mistakes.
AcuteAngle
#919554
5 months ago
"I am incredibly upset with the naming and portrayal of 'Derpy Hooves'." ... "I don't think anyone would be really offended by Derpy." Yeah, that seems to sum up the Derpy_Drama pretty well.
Rainbow_Dude
#919619
5 months ago
@AcuteAngle Being upset is the same as being offended?
ChickNeighney
#919632
5 months ago
I've said it once, I'll say it again:
"I hate the term offensive and everyone who uses it to try to pass it off as a legitimate concern. Put on your big girl panties and deal with it. B|"
Anonymous
#919641
5 months ago
Maybe "I don't think anyone would be really offended by Derpy" should have been "I don't think anyone should be really offended by Derpy."

Subtle difference, but props for the post anyway.
Rainbow_Dude
#919659
5 months ago
@upanon Okay... Sorry and thanks
Mattatatta
#919713
5 months ago
For once, Ponibooru isn't behaving like people on dA or Yahoo news articles.

Keep this level of maturity, fellow bronies, I'm proud of ya.
Chaosflare44
#919759
5 months ago
Well... you forgot Octavia's hair...
XP
Rainbow_Dude
#919772
5 months ago
^ Haha XD Well, Octavia's hair was already absent on the vector I used *Shrugpony*
And this was made on Paint in a few minutes, so =x
Chaosflare44
#919859
5 months ago
Yeah I'm just messing around. But in all honesty I completely agree with you. She's just a klutz. As you pointed out there have been plenty of similar characters in the past, and often times they end up being the most popular character in their respective shows (think GIR from Invader Zim). I see no reason for anybody to be offended.
Anonymous
#919910
5 months ago
how can you be offended by a cartoon pony being clumsy?
AcuteAngle
#919958
5 months ago
@Rainbow_Dude: I'm sorry that I appeared to be rather harsh towards your comment, which for the most part was fair and reasonable. It's just that the one line I quoted, taken together with the line I quoted from the original post, seems to represent a common attitude in this debate that I really don't like: "If you are offended by or upset with Derpys' name/voice/actions, your opinion doesn't matter."

I love Derpy, I enjoyed her scene in "The Last Roundup", and I don't think she was mentally challenged. Still, I can understand why someone would think otherwise, and I think we would be better off acknowledging that, explaining why we think she's not retarded, and agreeing to disagree. I spoke a bit further with one person who thought Derpy came off as a negative stereotype, and she mentioned that she was less upset with how Derpy was portrayed than with how hostile and insulting her defenders were.

There are 3 points in particular that the complainers make that, I think, deserve a thoughtful response: (1) 'Derp' is sometimes used as a slur against the mentally challenged, and not just as a silly synonym of "oops" or "my bad"; one of the reasons I wanted Derpy to be called Derpy was to try to help the second definition uproot and marginalize the first definition. (2) Her voice, at least for her first couple of lines, does sound a lot like a stereotyped "retard" voice, due to the stilted, near-monotone delivery; however, her voice sounds much less "retarded" during her later two lines, and even many (or most) of her fans prefer that voice to her voice for her first two lines. (3) She doesn't do anything right at all in "The Last Roundup", and the way Dash treats her makes her seem marginalized; we know she's not a complete screw-up as she helped with Winter Wrap-Up and was in the Best Young Flier competition, and she's shown as an accepted part of the community in many other episodes, but judging from just "The Last Roundup" it's easy to get a negative impression of her.

I know, I know, tl;dr, but there's already been so written about the issue here that I had to get that off my chest.
Anonymous
#920100
5 months ago
Maybe you could've added that we all love Derpy how she is ?
Captain_Carnation
#920232
5 months ago
I'm just gonna put this here:

While I am not unable to see why Derpy's portrayal could be (mis?)construed as an offensive stereotype, I AM scared to death that the complaints of the vocal minority could result in her removal from the show. It's quite possible that many of the vitriolic reactions in this thread could have the same origin.

I agree the scene was somewhat overdone, but I look beyond that to see it as a win for the fandom. The creators know us. They love us. They gave us this gift. I'm afraid it may now be taken from us.

If somepony that has brought so much of the community (and, if I may be permitted to be a bit selfish here, me personally) so much joy is taken away, it will, in my opinion, be a setback in fan relations. More importantly, it will make Derpy sad. Do you want a sad Derpy? DO YOU? :'(
ClavisRozen
#920289
5 months ago
"Firstly "derpy/derp is NOT OFFENSIVE. It just means the person is acting silly or clumsy way."

Yeah, stopped reading after that. If you want to defend the name "Derpy" fine, but in no way act as if the word cannot be offensive.
AcuteAngle
#920297
5 months ago
@Captain_Carnation: I do worry slightly that the complaints about Derpy may cause her scene(s) to be cut and her character altered for future episodes. I worry more that the vitriolic, insulting responses to those complaints (which thankfully have been absent from this thread) might lead to the same result. Thanks for your comment; if you haven't already, send an email to the Hub in support of Derpy: http://corporate.discovery.com/contact/viewer-relations/
BlazBrony
#920851
5 months ago
Before you go around claiming the word 'Derpy' is offensive please take the time to research where the word originated from.

http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Derp

It was NEVER intended to be offensive, just a word used to describe when somebody does something dumb.
Anonymous
#921369
5 months ago
#920232
>I am not unable to see why Derpy's portrayal could be (mis?)construed as an offensive stereotype
That puts you above the most vocal portions of the pro-Derpy side (who are really just pro-bullying, and only support Derpy's portrayal because it offends people). If there were more "She's not really that insulting, there's no reason to be upset over it" and less "You're not allowed to be offended, about this or anything else, because it offends ME that you're offended!" this argument would be much easier to settle.
BattleGT
#921411
5 months ago
Most people are on the Pro Derpy side because people are pro bullying people what?
Grachek
#921505
5 months ago
After reading the reply all i can see is someone but hurt about what the other thinks and instead of trying to explain rationally that person just whined to try and get his point.
Grachek
#921517
5 months ago
Which really helps :p

Her eye condition, her voice, how clumsy she is, how rainbow dash didn't want her help made that person (And odds are a lot others that do not know of the fandom) Relive that she is offensive
Anonymous
#921577
5 months ago
#921411
If they weren't, they wouldn't cry "butthurt" and act like that's all the argument tney need. It's the same tired nonsense that comes up any time anyone acts like negative emotions exist and matter.
BattleGT
#921604
5 months ago
If you've even seen some of the Rebuttals given here and around the net "butthurt" isn't the only argument.
Anonymous
#921684
5 months ago
^ No, but it's certainly the loudest.
Anonymous
#922574
5 months ago
Brohoof pra voce Rainbow_Dude, e viva os bronies da lingua portuguesa!
AcuteAngle
#923790
5 months ago
@Anon369: Yes, someone else gets it.

@BattleGT: "the most <b>vocal</b> portions of the pro-Derpy side" (emphasis mine) are acting like Anon369 describes. Even when they bring up other points to make their arguments, they almost always use the "I don't think it's offensive, so you have no right to be offended" angle too.
Anonymous
#925303
5 months ago
>Derpy Hooves

I quit reading at that part. The "Hooves" never made it into the show. Thus, troll - an obvious one, though amazingly one who's done more homework than usual (landing in either "too much" or "too little").
Anonymous
#925331
5 months ago
^ One word not consistent with show.
Therefore, post is worthless.

Really, 303? REALLY?
Anonymous
#925362
5 months ago
^ Yes. It is the law of the internet, you know. Trolls everywhere. And this is pretending to be clueless while displaying extra knowledge.

Read up on the rest. This post was designed for trolling.
Anonymous
#925498
5 months ago
Waitwaitwait.
Which one of the posts are you complaining about again?
Both call her "Derpy Hooves"
Therefore both are trolling, and you take this:



as something worth caring.
Anonymous
#925531
5 months ago
The first one. Duh. Where the second one got "Derpy Hooves" is obvious.

And you are seriously reading too much into my comments or how much I care about this. If trolling on the internet were something unexpected and careworthy for me, I'd have degenerated into a mumbling ball of rage years ago.
Rainbow_Dude
#925959
5 months ago
@922574 Muito obrigado! =D *Brohoof*