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BronyJake
#873979
6 months ago
Made this for a spray on TF2. The bg got a little blurry, but it was for TF2, so...F*** it. Plz 2 be not debating politics? I only wanted to incite rage in Tf2. really am voting RP though.
cyber95
#874000
6 months ago
Ron Paul: Let's pull out of all war everywhere damn the consequences!
Anonymous
#874003
6 months ago
Ron Paul, that seemingly smart guy you knew in college that made less and less sense the more you listened to him
Anonymous
#874012
6 months ago
Ron Paul, Pinkie Pie supporter, and that is the only reason anyone should vote for him.
Anonymous
#874020
6 months ago
Anonymous
#874023
6 months ago
Free Ponies for everyone!!
Hellfire
#874027
6 months ago
Can some one tell me why is Ron Paul so "hip" with you internet younggins?
Imdumb
#874034
6 months ago
Nice, Ron Paul is a hell of a lot smarter than the other candidates for sure.
Harlequin_Jester
#874037
6 months ago
Everyone I've met just supports him because he'll legalize pot.
Anonymous
#874040
6 months ago
He is awesOme, he should run as a 3rd party, BecAuse he Might totAlly win.
Xuncu
#874042
6 months ago
^AH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH
Hellfire
#874048
6 months ago
Anon040 - Figures, seems Obama fans default to Ron
BronyJake
#874050
6 months ago
Well, all I really knew was he was "the crazy guy." Jon Stewart probably played a part in it. But, if you actually watch his speeches, he says strong things (that he can't retract easily) and actually makes sense. I don't necesarilly agree with him on everything, but a lot of things I do. Better than Obama and the other Repubs, imo.
Takashi_0
#874060
6 months ago
^That, and the fact that he's against SOPA.

Which pretty much everyone who isn't a retarded lobbyist or politician whore agrees is the greatest evil of all regardless of party lines.
Anonymous
#874065
6 months ago
what I can say for the guy is that he has an uncompromising vision, based in facts.

it's not a vision I can really support, though.
Anonymous
#874071
6 months ago
How can you NOT vote for Federal pony identification program? It comes with free pony!!!
Anonymous
#874075
6 months ago
He's an egotist and a clown who has no chance and knows it. All he's doing is what he always does: soak up the money of fools.
Imdumb
#874081
6 months ago
He wants to make government smaller and reduce regulation in peoples' lives. Getting the government out of issues like gay marriage, internet regulation abortion or what drugs people decide to take.

He has had a consistent voting record which basically is being a strict constitutionalist and won't invade other countries unless Congress votes that it's a threat to the US.
Takashi_0
#874085
6 months ago
^Did you miss the part where I pointed out that he's the only one against the bill that could turn the internet into Nazi Germany?
Takashi_0
#874097
6 months ago
Fucking ninja'd.

Hell, I'm not that crazy over his war policy either, but if he's for getting the government out of my life and back within the confines of the constitution where it fucking belongs, then to hell with Romney.
Zincy
#874099
6 months ago
Oh yea, lets support the guy who wants to remove the FDA and put us back on a crippled gold standard... Just because he has a few good ideas doesn't mean he isn't a danger.
Anonymous
#874104
6 months ago
^ Yes, he should stay in the race until November.
Takashi_0
#874107
6 months ago
^That's why we the people are supposed to keep him in line.
Anonymous
#874108
6 months ago
ninja'd. But hey if he is so principled, why is he a Republican?
Zincy
#874112
6 months ago
Takashi, you know the constitution is a living document that was meant to be changed and amended right? It was never meant to be a universal standard, it was meant to be altered as the concept of the social contract changed. Theres no "confines of the constitution" as there it isn't set in stone. Its old, and need s change once in awhile, if we didn't change it blacks still wouldn't be able to vote for example.
Anonymous
#874116
6 months ago
@4108: because the libertarian party is a joke and the republican party is slightly closer to libertarian ideas than the democratic party is
Anonymous
#874126
6 months ago
zincy: I think the argument there is that if you want to amend the constitution, you have to actually go out and amend it

anyway my main problems with ron paul are
1) "state's rights" means texas can still make buttsex a felony (among other examples)
2) commodity-backed currency is deflationary, and deflationary currency has serious downsides in a modern economy
Anonymous
#874143
6 months ago
Here's how the Mane 6 would vote.

Twilight – Democrats, the party the doesn’t think intelligence and understanding is a liability.

Rarity – Too busy to vote, because its on a Tuesday.

Dash – Ambivalent.

AJ – GOP, the party that has tricked the rural poor into thinking they are on their side since 1964.

Fluttershy – To intimidated by the unnecessarily complicated voting process to show up

Pinky Pie – Votes for whomever told her to last, and is therefor the MOST IMPORTANT PERSON IN THE WORLD.
Anonymous
#874197
6 months ago
(also as long as we're judging congressional candidates by their sopa/pipa stance, the incumbent executive branch has made a statement lambasting the worst things about the bill)
Mojo
#874233
6 months ago
Sigh, Ron Paul the Candidate of people who lack any basic understand of economics or the way regulations and markets work.

Seriously almost everyone I know who supports him backs him for reasons like Legalization of drugs or "GETTING THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY LIFE" or "WE ARE LOSING OUR LIBERTY"

They do not understand just how harmful Paul's policies of basically getting rid of the vast majority of Government agencies which are important in a modern economy (you stuff like the EPA) almost all forms of regulation of business (you know the stuff that keeps business from totally abusing workers, consumers and restricts them from stupidity at time) and social programs (the stuff that keeps your grandparents afloat, and helps puts food on the tables of the poor)

As for his Foreign policy, while I am against pretty much all the conflicts the US is currently involved in Ron Paul is not technically an "Anti-War" candidate he is an ISOLATIONIST, which goes much much further and is pretty much a broken idea in the modern globalized world.

also @Imdumb

RP actually is not pro-choice, he's a fairly strong lifer as he is not truly a social libertarian.
bamakid1272
#874321
6 months ago
You know what, I really don't care right now. I'll only be 18 by the time the big election gets here. So basically, I'm just going to have to wait and see which two candidates I have to choose from.
Anonymous
#874347
6 months ago
Oh Americans you are so silly with your ridiculous belief that what politicians promise is what they will actually do, or even try.
Anonymous
#874350
6 months ago
Oh sure, Ron Paul knows nothing about economics, which is why he (and every other follower of the Austrian School) predicted the housing collapse years before it happened.

Plus it's kind of funny how big business, who you say would rule America if we didn't have regulations, do not support Ron Paul, but instead lobby for regulations. All that happens with regulation is that it's co-opted by the politically connected to entrench them at the top.

Also, not wanting to bomb every other country does not make you an isolationist. That's liek calling your neighbor a hermit just because he doesn't break your windows after you had a disagreement.

Lastly, charity through theft is not charity.
Mojo
#874385
6 months ago
A lot of people from various different points of view predicted the crash, being right about one thing does no validate your entire ideology.

Big Business ALWAYS lobbies against new regulation have you not followed ANY debates over regulations in the last few decades? They consistently lobby for less regulation, expect when a regulation might hurt a competing industry.

And the idea that if got rid of social programs "charity" would take care of the old and poor is a fucking fantasy, the amount of money needed there is far far far too large to rely on voluntary donations.
Zincy
#874419
6 months ago
"charity through theft is not charity" ...o fuck me, that statement makes my head hurt. Social safety nets isn't theft, its helping your fellow man. Yea our current system is broken (The 1:1 ratio of pay out is a good example) but flat out removing it isn't the answer. For starters, it would take years to get a voluntary charity system working...which would leave a lot of people without the help they need...plus i doubt enough people would participate to even get it off the fucking ground.
FirelordofHyrule
#874506
6 months ago
All he wants to do is legalize pot... He's not gonna do anything for us, he just wants his marijuana.
Anonymous
#874603
6 months ago
@874143 I think you've really misrepresented Twilight (and the Democratic party). Twilight would vote for the one she believes to be intelligent, capable, educated on the appropriated subject matters, sticks to their morals and beliefs unless the situation/information demands otherwise, etc, etc. It's very hard to find ANYONE with a party affiliation (Republican or Democrat) holding to all these things. She'd more likely vote independent, in my opinion.

Also, no Republican thinks the way you imply they do. The only possible time they would come close is if being understanding was the unintelligent thing to do. I don't know how you got that idea, but you insult a lot of reasonable, intelligent people in doing so. It might also interest you to know that a lot of Republicans think the same way about Democrats. They are equally wrong. But guess what. One party likes to slander the other. Neither is, nor ever has been, a saintly group. Each has been very intelligent and incredibly idiotic.

Here's something of a dichotomy I've been thinking about. It's not perfect or absolute, but I'll leave it here anyways:

You have to choose between Freedom and Fairness at some point or another. To be more Free, you have to be less Fair. To be more Fair, you have to be less Free. Conservatives (who want LESS government by definition) lean towards more Freedom. Liberals (who want MORE government by definition) lean towards more Fairness. Conservatives are demonized in part because they are seen as not caring about the less fortunate while rewarding the successful and deemed heartless. Liberals are demonized in part because they are seen as resentful of those more successful financially while almost unconditionally supporting those who are not and deemed fiscally incompetent. Are either correct? Only partly. Only the most extreme of candidates ever come close to being like the stereotypes.

tl;dr version: Neither party on its own is the answer. Strictly following either would lead to ruin. The middle ground, or bits and pieces of each one, is where a more reasonable answer to society's problems lies in my opinion.
Anonymous
#874751
6 months ago
You can't vote 'independent' and there is no middle ground. Pick the party that is more closely aligned with your views and then you work to bring that party closer to what you want it to stand for by voting in primaries/generals and working the phones/streets.

It's hard, sucky work but it does work, unlike pipe-dream boondoggles like Paul, who shows up every 4 years to glean cash and attention from fools.
Anonymous
#874830
6 months ago
You're changing the subject, Mojo. You said he knew nothing about economics and I countered. Just because a few people from other schools of thought saw it coming doesn't discredit him either.

I think we agree here that big business wants deregulation when it helps them. A few small examples of corporate sponsored regulation is Walmart supporting raising the minimum wage and the very same supporters of Obamacare are the ones that got waivers.

But I guess it's also a fantasy that anyone can live peaceful voluntary lives without violent do-gooders imposing their moral view on them.
Nebbie
#875197
6 months ago
Ron Paul is the most reasonable Republican candidate. This does not make him anywhere close to a reasonable candidate.
He is an isolationist, anti-federalist, anti-welfare, anti-desegregation (no really, he actually does not support racial desegregation laws, because he thinks they infringe on business and school's rights to discriminate) candidate.
He would hav us leave the UN, revoke the North American Free Trade Agreement, get rid of essential programs that make sure the poor don't go hungry, and let monopolies trample you.

Yes, Obama didn't magically fix the economy and he's supportive of gay rights and he spent money to try to fix the economy and he improved healthcare in a way that nearly resulted in the gov't having such huge power as the ability to provide you with lifesaving care for free, but I can guarantee you he's going to do better according to Republican standards than Ron Paul or probably most if not all of the Republican candidates.
Van_Horsing
#875226
6 months ago
^Echo this entire post.
Anonymous
#875770
6 months ago
The fact that he wants to eliminate the EPA is enough reason not to vote for Ron Paul. This planet is fucked up enough without letting corporations declare war on the environment in the name of a quick buck.

Of course, I do respect him for at least having the balls to admit his intentions as opposed to Romney and the rest of the Republicans who are just pretending they don't plan to destroy it as well.
Calbeck
#876060
6 months ago
"Obama didn't magically fix the economy and he's supportive of gay rights and he spent money to try to fix the economy and he improved healthcare in a way that nearly resulted in the gov't having such huge power as the ability to provide you with lifesaving care for free"

Two of those items are accurate. He did spend a lot of money to fix the economy, and didn't, mainly because he was fixated on an "all or nothing, one size fits all" health care overhaul which does not, actually, give you "lifesaving health care for free". Pipe dreams are sweet vote-winners though, aren't they?

In the end, the stimulus money would literally have been better spent by just randomly giving it out in an unemployment lottery; the average cost of a job created by it is roughly what a professional baseball player makes.

All of that said, I don't like any of the Republicans, Ron Paul least of all for most of the reasons cited. If there's any candidate who can get me out to vote in favor of Barack Obama's failed policies, it's a Ron Paul primary win.
Calbeck
#876064
6 months ago
And BTW, Obama supports "civil unions", not marriage, for gays. Being as that's the only "gay rights" issue anyone's talking about, it puts him on the same exact level as 40% of Republicans, who ALSO support civil unions but not gay marriage.
Anonymous
#876362
6 months ago
Wow. Talk about in after shitstorm. Ponies and politics shouldn't mix.
Anonymous
#1011511
5 months ago
No such thing as free Health Care, period. End of Story.