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HeinousActsZX
#857820
6 months ago
Ooo, I think this is the best yet!
Michos
#857830
6 months ago
[imh]http://upload.slightlymore.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/93a29064_Slow-Clap.gif[/img]
FuzzyFenrir
#857833
6 months ago
It even actually has shading and all. So yes, it is the best one.
Michos
#857834
6 months ago
well, damn
marioandsonic
#857846
6 months ago
"Bonbon? It's always nice to see you, but right now we're expecting some company."

"What do you mean, Mrs. Heartstrings?"

"Lyra is having a date over for dinner! Oh, I can't wait to meet this lucky young man! So, when does he get here, dear?"

"...Um...mom...this IS my date."

*cue picture*
Redge
#857960
6 months ago
A challenger aprocheth
PonyRIG
#857982
6 months ago
three times...
Nemns
#858133
6 months ago
Every time a better coloring of JJ's pictures show up, I have to GO BACK AND DELETE THE CRAPPIER NOT-AS-MUCH-ATTENTION-TO-DETAIL-PAID ONES. 9_9
Redge
#858232
6 months ago
If I had a complaint about this one, the eye's don't look quite right. They don't really mesh with the rest of the picture. Same goes for a few lines here and there.

That, and the green bit on Lyra's chest looks weird. I think I see what you were going for, but I dunno...

Other than that though, excellent. The best one so far.
Anonymous
#858393
6 months ago
It's actually a pretty natural reaction. Deny it as we might, it's actually normal to not want your kids to be gay, even though trying to force gay offspring to be straight is unethical.
HeinousActsZX
#858500
6 months ago
^True, we don't want our children to be persecuted for being different, and if they simply aren't different then the problem is solved before it starts.
Being different is a great thing to be, however.
Anonymous
#858973
6 months ago
Worrying about the child being an outcast is part of it. The other part though is that a parent's natural expectation is that their child will eventually find someone of the opposite sex to be with, and if the child does not meet their expectations it's disappointing. Mom doesn't get to have a daughter in law, dad doesn't get to have a son in law. And of course there's the issue of grandkids, since either there won't be any or they will be raised in an unusual setting.
Saufsoldat
#859789
6 months ago
^


There are actually many people who aren't closet homophobes, have no problem with their children being gay, and know that gay couples can get married in the developed world and can adopt children or get a surrogate mother/artificial insemination.

Really, this idea of having children just so you can one day have grandchildren always sickened me.
Anonymous
#860183
6 months ago
I find the mere concept that "closet homophobe" is now a thing to be rather hilarious. We gotta cure dem homophobes an' make 'em comform to homophilia, just like the rest of us! :p
bboifatz
#860208
6 months ago
^ Am I the only one who thinks it's narrow minded for people to be angry that freedom of thought still exists? You can tolerate something without approving of it, but apparently that's not good enough anymore in today's society. People have become intolerant of people who don't put their glowing seal of approval on every aspect of a person's lifestyle, even if they've never bothered anyone.

Why is it wrong for someone to secretly think that gay sex is gross, or feel disappointed in a friend or family member when they find out there gay, even if outwardly they do not bother the person about it?

People who have to fight their own personal disapproval of something have to work a lot harder to be tolerant than people who simply don't care. And yet, the people who are tolerant by default are heralded as saints, while the people who must actively try to tolerate the things they don't like are labeled as the scum of the earth. The very existence of a single non-approving thought of homosexuality in a person's head is considered too much by many people, which makes me wonder how much farther the metaphorical pendulum is even capable of swinging before we all end up right back where we started, but facing the other direction.
Anonymous
#860553
6 months ago
^
BEST COMMENT.
Anonymous
#860562
6 months ago
^#860208
This.
dudemang
#861131
6 months ago
bboifatz, you are perhaps one of the better commenters I've ever seen on this site.
Anonymous
#861293
6 months ago
@860208

No one is angry that freedom of thought exists. They just feel the need to speak up when hurtful thoughts are put into words. You are welcome to your beliefs, but that doesn't mean they will go unchallenged. There's nothing wrong with having once been a bigot as long as you recognize it as a problem; the only people who get labeled as "scum of the earth" are the ones who continue to push their bigotry.

And really, where do you live that you feel you can call yourself the victim? In America, homosexuals are still second-class citizens, and even though recent pop culture is generally positive toward them, they face discrimination on a daily basis, from both the law and from their fellow citizens.

If you feel shame about your homophobia, that's a good start, and a laudable place to begin; I wish you luck on your journey. If not, your post just comes off like a rich kid complaining about a kid on food stamps being allowed to eat a candy bar.
bboifatz
#863030
6 months ago
Sure in the bible belt homophobia is a much bigger problem, but people where I live seem to be dismissive of people that they suspect of being "closet homophobes," and this can lead to feeling very socially alienated because certain people no longer trust you. Imagine you're having a conversation in mixed company, and suddenly the topic of homosexuality come up. I have my own opinions about it, but I keep them to myself because I don't want to offend anyone. Someone notices I've gotten awfully quite, and that I look uncomfortable about the current conversation. "Say, you haven't been saying anything. What's your opinion?" Am I supposed to lie about my real feelings about the matter, or am I supposed to be honest so that they can rake me over the coals and try to convince me how wrong I am for thinking what I think?

I usually take the third option and simply try to change the subject, but no matter how tactfully I try, it gives people who would disagree with my personal thoughts on the subject all the more reason to trust me less. Obviously this is nothing compared to what gay people have had to put up with over the years and I find an actual comparison between the two situations to be distasteful, but I think that anyone should be able to agree that it's stupid to let their opinions about controversial issues ruin a friendship unless someone is being overly pushy about their opinion.

In real life I am a bit of an introvert, and I am very much non-confrontational. Unfortunately, that means that during a confrontation, I'm usually the one being confronted, and frankly I am tired of having to explain to people that "just because I don't approve of X doesn't mean I'm intolerant." I wish more people would watch the "tolerance camp" episode of South Park, because no matter what the issue is you'll find plenty of people on both sides who have no idea what the word "tolerance" means, and thus fail miserably at practicing it.
Rezak
#863877
6 months ago
^030
this.
Some_Anon
#867489
6 months ago
bboifatz is perhaps the best commenter on this site.
Anonymous
#1197612
3 months ago
Although this is old, and I don't know if anyone will ever read this, I thought bboifatz's argument was interesting and while I can see where you're coming from, I do feel compelled to respond.

You ask why it's wrong to secretly think that gay sex is gross, or feel disappointed in a friend or family member when they find out there gay? Well, they're two quite separate things, in my opinion. I don't think anyone has a problem with people who find gay sex gross - everyone has their preferences and some people find some things gross that other people like, e.g. I personally find sushi gross. However, being disappointed with people when you find out they're gay, or disapproving of their behaviour is different - there's no real reason to disapprove of someone just because they're different to you, provided they're not hurting anyone in the process. It'd be like if I was disappointed to find my friend liked sushi, and disapproved of them eating it, and ultimately thought less of them as a person, merely because I personally didn't find it appealing. Even if I never vocalized my opinions, thinking less of someone just because they're different to me would be a bit reprehensible, no? And if people found out I thought that, they'd understandably think it was a bit bizarre and perhaps not trust me as much, if I'm going to judge people for something so inane, especially the person in question.

And I have a problem with conflating disapproving of gays and disapproving of those who disapprove of gays, and ultimately it comes down to what you are capable of changing. Being gay is what someone is - there's nothing they can do about it, nor should they have to as it does no harm to anyone. However, nothing forces you to disapprove of homosexuals or homosexual behaviour (which, again, is different to merely finding it gross or something you wouldn't like to do), you're not naturally disapproving of it and there's nothing you can do about it, you can re-evaluate your opinions. And while to you it may just be "an opinion on a controversial issue", for some people it's very personal and people are going to feel hurt if they find out that someone they trusted disapproves of what they are, and being true to themselves. So IMO, it's a false equivalence.