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Fuzzy_Logic
#806871
6 months ago
Both are furry. Both are anthro. You are stupid.
SenatorSufficient
#806874
6 months ago
Inb4 debate.
Anonymous
#806876
6 months ago

Zincy
#806881
6 months ago
There are furrys who don't like suits. You're looking at one. I think they look like cartoon mascots...they're silly.
Dumb_Rock
#806882
6 months ago
inb4 we avoid the shitstorm because of the "incoming shitstorm" pics
gashunk
#806883
6 months ago
Furries have dead soulless eyes and anthros are anorexic. Gotcha,
HeinousActsZX
#806888
6 months ago
I like some kinds of anthro.
Does that automatically make me a furry?
gashunk
#806890
6 months ago
Also, I find it funny that when I did a google image search for "incoming shitstorm" the page was full of pony pictures.
Epicplatypus
#806891
6 months ago
>used to be a furfag
>still loves anthro art
>hates the furry fandom

IM AN ENIGMA!
ToySoldierScratch
#806892
6 months ago
Furry - person
Anthro - drawing

At least that's what I understood this picture is trying to say.
Jackie
#806894
6 months ago
Pot, meet Kettle.
Mattatatta
#806897
6 months ago
One I couldn't care less about, and the other I couldn't care less about.

Right...
Zincy
#806900
6 months ago
Not quite Epic, I'm "kinda" with yea. I love anthro, and I do like the idea of a kind of "avatar" self (but that comes from years of RPG's and DnD), and one look at my fav list on here will show you my stance on 34. But the suits and stuff...Idk, bothers me a bit. And the people who actually think they are animals, or take their RP way to far...

So basically I'm a furry who avoids the fandom like the plague.
Anonymous
#806901
6 months ago
@ Dumb_Rock: NO! I demand a sh!tstorm!
@ gashunk: Ha. You make me laugh.

Also, despite my previous demand for a sh*tstorm I just don't see the point of this picture other than to sow anger and argument. It's either a fairly competent troll or a completely stupid furry/brony. =|
Sali
#806904
6 months ago
It's pretty simple, really.

Anthropomorphic and furry are used interchangeably when it comes to artwork, though this is not 100% accurate. Anthropomorphic characters are any characters that take an animal base and add human features. "Funny animals" such as the ponies and Bugs Bunny fall into this category, generally, however there is an entire spectrum of anthropomorphism from realistic animals that act human (Br'er Rabbit), to basically human characters with animal attributes (Inuyasha). These can all be classified as anthro, but just at different levels.

Furry generally describes midlevel anthros. The ponies aren't anthro enough for this distinction, generally, but certain things (lets go back to Inuyasha, because he's an easily accessible example) are too human to be "furry".

Those that enjoy works involving 'furry' characters and general anthropomorphism are "furries". Furries span an entire range of activities and concepts. Some relatively mundane, other strange and disconcerting. Everything from your standard art and literature, to suit construction, glamor bombing and larping.

It is a nerd culture, just like any other (Trekkies, Otakus, DnDers) and the the level of involvement varies from a passing interest to a full out way of life for some. For most, however... it's just a thing (a hobby, more or less.)

Due to the anthropormorphic aspects, most 'furries' would actually see 'bronies' as one of their ilk. However the 'bronies' don't like such a label because 'furries' have a bad name and even though the internet already sees them in the same boat, they like to distance themselves.

However, truth is, we're all a bunch of nerds and we're all basically the same, just on different levels of involvement and indifference.

So there you go. Now you know the difference between furries and anthros, how they relate to each other, bronies, and nerds in general. Simple, right?

Most people who get bent out of shape about it, simply don't know and don't care to know, really. No need for a shitstorm, just a simple misconception.
Zincy
#806907
6 months ago
Sali, you used logic....you know how well that goes over on the internet.
Anonymous
#806910
6 months ago
Sali
#806911
6 months ago
I gotta try, dude. I gotta try.
Sali
#806914
6 months ago
...nice photorealistic Zoidberg. XD
Anonymous
#806915
6 months ago
Normally, I'm not big on fursuiting, but I love those costumes.
Zincy
#806919
6 months ago
Suiters are like LARP'ers, they don't go into it enough. I did a stint with a "classical" battle reenactment troupe. We didn't fuck around, we had real armor and blunted weapons and went at each other. Had one guy get his arm broken in like 6 places...thats hardcore.
MaroonBunyip
#806923
6 months ago
its been a while since we've had a proper shitstorm... im kinda missing it now... it was always funny...
Anonymouz
#806927
6 months ago
I always thought Furry means a person who is a member of the fandom. Anthro is, well, art that depicts humanized animals.

You know, like Furry is to Anthro just as Brony is to MLP and Trekie is to Star Trek. But I could be wrong.
Sali
#806934
6 months ago
That's the most basic way to look at it. It isn't wrong, just folks make strange assumptions based on a lack of information.

A 'furry' is basically a person who likes 'anthro' art, characters, &c. for whatever reason and to whatever end.

(That encompasses a LOT.)
DPV111
#806937
6 months ago
^ That's my preferred definition.
Epicplatypus
#806952
6 months ago
No... I refuse to label myself as a furry.
And if I dont label myself as a furry.. how can I be a furry?
So, lets say someone like MLP but HATES THE FUCK out of bronies... you gonna call him a brony?
Anonymous
#806954
6 months ago
Anthro is INCREDIBLY broad. Furry is sickfuckery. Anthro and Furry often go hand in hand, however. All Furry is Anthro, but not all Anthro is Furry. Make sense?
AdamNovagen
#806955
6 months ago
@Gashunk implying the two on the right are anorexic? They look alright to me.
Anonymous
#806960
6 months ago
I'm half wendigo half rapist.
Sali
#806965
6 months ago
Epicplatypus: If you're a Star Trek fan and you find the term 'trekkie' to be demeaning. "I'm not that weird/shut in/gross/awkward." That's fine. You can call it whatever you want. Perhaps you don't identify with the 'culture'. If there is such a thing. Fine.

I know a lot of 'furries' who refuse to call themselves that. I know a lot of 'bronies' who hate the word. I think its a silly word, but I don't object to it. I don't identify with furry 'culture' but I don't object to it.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. At the end of the day, I just call a spade a spade, yanno?

Also, I was wondering when the anon-stupids would be coming in.

@Anon 954: Your perception is wrong.

@Anon 960: That's... nice.
Zincy
#806975
6 months ago
I think Sali might be the wisest of us.
Tidal_Wave
#806984
6 months ago
@806960: You are half wendigo, half rapis,t all troll.
Anonymous
#806991
6 months ago
960 here
I believe the term your all looking for is (yiffy).
MaroonBunyip
#806996
6 months ago
come on anon, antagonise them for no reason. make em angry. I wanna laugh at a shitstorm again!
Tidal_Wave
#806998
6 months ago
Damn it, I misspelled that.

@Zincy: I agree, Sali, you are awesome.

I'm a furry and a brony, and I'm not a sick fuck, and neither are most of the other furries I know.

-Hides before people start screaming "OMG U R A FURRY EW!"-
Zancrow
#807000
6 months ago
Anon960 made me laugh so hard xD
Anon, you so random!
Zincy
#807022
6 months ago
Over in another thread on another site I'm debating the merits of trans-humanism and the ethics of artificial advancement...

Here, I'm debating about furries...

Its starting to mix together, i'm picturing a future where we can add animal parts to our own bodies, or get like animal abilities.
Anonymous
#807025
6 months ago
#965 Lol, this "anon stupid" has been browsing this site since its conception. I don't use a screen name because I have nothing of worth to upload, and the community here is good for little more than a laugh.

As for my perception being wrong... Well, to call all furries sick fucks is a cruel generalization, but it also isn't far from the truth. The truth is that furries don't know how to keep the bad eggs out. They've made themselves such an open community than any sick fuck out there on the internet can look at the furry fandom and think "hey, my disgusting gore/scat/child porn fetishes will be accepted here!" And lo and behold, they are. The brony community is thankfully not nearly as accepting, so the more disgusting fetishes are few and far in between, and often shunned immediately. Love and tolerance only goes so far, you have to draw the line somewhere.

And as for anthro and furry not being the same, well, all furry content is essentially anthro. But not all anthro content qualifies as "furry". Like, for example. There is a race of bipedal cat-people called Khajit in the Elder Scrolls series. Playing as a Khajit doesn't automatically make you a furry. One can appreciate anthromorphized elements without stooping to the level of "furfaggotry". For example, many of us have grown up with a love for cartoons, and many cartoons star anthromorphic animals. That doesn't automatically make us all furry, now, does it? If that were the case, the term "furry" wouldn't carry nearly as much soul-fucking stigma.

All furry content, on the other hand, is fundamentally anthro, because anthro is the source content that furry borrows from. Bugs Bunny is anthro. Bugs Bunny fucking Elmer Fudd in the eye is furry. If I am somehow wrong, then please set me straight. Because this is my case and until I'm proven wrong, I'm sticking to it. If you can remain civil, I'd appreciate it. If this turns into a shitstorm, color me disappointed.
Zincy
#807039
6 months ago
Your fundamental problem anon is assuming that the greater furry community can police itself and keep out the "bad eggs". Thats counter to how the internet works, and is impossible, especially for a fandom as large as the furry fandom. And to assume that we are "more restrictive" here because some are more vocal is...incorrect. There is just as much darkness in the brony fandom, its just harder to see due to a veil of cuteness, and many of its members wearing blinders. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean its not there.
Anonymous
#807045
6 months ago
I'm half wendigo half rapist.


I must ask: you're half rapist through your mother's or father's side ?
Zincy
#807048
6 months ago
To add, the focus is also just shifted. Many of the people who would chide the furry fandom for liking anthro 34...have fav lists full of sexy ponies.
Anonymous
#807055
6 months ago
045
Both! I get the wendigo from my pops.
MaroonBunyip
#807058
6 months ago
@Zincy
in all honesty, I would do anything to get the reflexes and/or flexability of a cat. I would be unstopable!
Anonymous
#807061
6 months ago
^Dude, I've seen things
us humans have far more ability than any creature on this planet
Zincy
#807062
6 months ago
Give it time Maroon, you may live to see that. On the subject, I may have to bail on this debate. The Trans-humanism one is getting a bit...heated...and requires my attention more so then this trifle. I deffer to the superior wisdom of Sali should he/she return.
Anonymous
#807064
6 months ago
You've got the right idea, Zincy, but a community doesn't have to police itself so much as have standards. The furry community's standards are pretty depressingly low, even you must admit. As a result, they see some disgusting shit and accept it with open arms. Of course the same disgusting shit happens in our fandom, but it is notably more taboo. I never said it was absent. And truly, is any community untouched by furries?
MaroonBunyip
#807075
6 months ago
@anon#807061
yeah, I know, just look at any martial arts master for reflexes and go to any trapize or dancer or etc for flexability.
im talkin natural. you know, all gain no pain, because my time of ponies is far too valuable to waste.
Anonymous
#807078
6 months ago
Well fuck me with rebar, just scrolled up and saw Sali's original post, and we share almost the same opinion.
Zincy
#807087
6 months ago
I'll leave on this note. Standards on the internet decay with time, its a sad but proven fact. As the more zealous of us begin to move on, the community becomes more lax. The furry fandom is old, much older then the net, and suffers from said decay. We to will begin to slide, but to that I say, who cares? I've never been one for image, nor have I been on to be bothered by the words of others. Should they view me as a "sick freak", I would simply brush it off. I am a man of freedom, and believe all should be free to do as they please, so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

There are bright spots in all fandoms, and they are not covered by the the darkness of the fandom itself, but merely by the blind eyes who can only see what they hate.

Now, I bid you farewell. If the Trans-humanism debate beings to bore me I may return.
MaroonBunyip
#807092
6 months ago
link to said debate?
Zincy
#807100
6 months ago
Its over on Da's Phil/rel forums Maroon. So far its just me and like 4 others and most of them agree with the OP like myself, so its not as heated as i was hoping it would become. But the longer the thread goes the more people will join and the more fire will burn. I'm also in a thread about Atheistic/Deistic philosophies, and one about the merits of objective moral codes (pro-tip, there isn't any).
Anonymous
#807105
6 months ago
^Objective as in Objectivist, Ayn Rand? If so eww.
Zincy
#807113
6 months ago
Objective as in like religious dogma, but I have a bone to pick with Ayn Rand to. Basically any belief that maintains that there's an objective moral standard put forth by something Transcendent subscribes to the concept of objective morality. Which I find laughable...
Anonymous
#807134
6 months ago
I was asking cause it's a very common misspelling on the 'net.
Anonymous
#807141
6 months ago
Fair enough Zincy, that's a damn good answer.
Zincy
#807148
6 months ago
As are many things. I've given up on policing my own grammar and spelling.I figure anyone who tries to attack those qualities during a debate is just trying to distract from the fact they have no argument.
Anonymous
#807159
6 months ago
@807025
tl:dr
Zincy
#807160
6 months ago
Got ninja'd, last comment was directed at 7134.

7141, I appreciate the response.
Anonymous
#807174
6 months ago
Link to right pic nao!
Anonymous
#807217
6 months ago
Anonymous
#807231
6 months ago
#807159

Figures.
MaroonBunyip
#807232
6 months ago
^
isnt peta that horrible animal rights group that hurst animals as much as they save them?
MaroonBunyip
#807233
6 months ago
^
isnt peta that horrible animal rights group that hurts animals as much as they save them?
MaroonBunyip
#807240
6 months ago
ninjad and double post... wow...
Zincy
#807262
6 months ago
LOL...PETA, the same idiots who said the Te nookie suit in Mario is animal cruelty. These guys are laughingstocks...and I'm a fucking activist saying that! They do more to hurt the cause of animal rights then they do to help it, by turning it into...this...
Zincy
#807268
6 months ago
Though, I guess i should be fair and point out the image is shooped. But they have said similar things before.
Anonymous
#807344
6 months ago
I hope your happy 217
Anonymous
#807377
6 months ago
If someone doesn't give a link to the picture on the right by itself I will be severely disappointed.
Anonymous
#807426
6 months ago
Both are furry. Both are anthro.
Anonymous
#807432
6 months ago
who seriously gives a shit

why does it even actually matter whether something counts as "furry" or not

sweet logic the internet makes everything into some kind of federal fucking issue
HeartmendSoar
#807456
6 months ago
Both are furry, both are anthro. "Anthro" is a term some some people like to use to distance themselves from "furries". However, like "Trekkies" and "Trekkers" of Star Trek fandom, no one outside the given fandom cares.
Fubarman
#807510
6 months ago
Anonymous
#807770
6 months ago
^ thanks for bringing me some laughs in this "argument".
Kata
#808732
6 months ago
Its always the same.
1: no pony cares.
2: The image is incorrect anyway.
Sali
#808908
6 months ago
#807025: Well Bugs Bunny fucking Elmer Fudd in the eye would be... Bugs Bunny fucking Elmer Fudd in the eye. There's nothing that would make that hypothetical situation "furry" other than it would involve Bugs Bunny. You could have such a silly thing on a site that caters to toon porn, or a parody site. Hell, I doubt it would even be considered porn, honestly. It depends on what purpose it was drawn for, quality, and audience. Furry has nothing to do with sexual content (despite the large amount of sexual content associated with "furry"). That's the innate problem with all these labels in the first place. They're very vague and indistinct.

The issue with the furry community is that, yes, it's internet based and it's hard to agree on standards, much less police them. Many people feel strongly about various things and there are well worded arguments for even what one might consider the most reprehensible of things.

What do you go by? Societal rules that vary from place to place, and change over time? Do you go by quality, where you're able to express whatever you like as long as you execute it well?

Lots of issues.

I really don't have much to say on the community itself. It reflects badly on me sometimes. But I can't tell people to go die in a fire, can I? I'd like to, but where would that get me? It would just make me look like an ass.

I just have my friends and those whose material I enjoy. Most of us are like that. We have our own things that we deal with, and we just try and have a good time.

And honestly, having been on the net for well over a decade, a member of that community for just as long... I can say that the problem with furries is the same issue I'm starting to see in this community.

You take your shit too seriously.

Just like those PETA folk up there. They've gotten so involved with how they feel and what they're doing that they've completely forgotten the point!

They've forgotten WHY they're doing what they're doing.

It's become a LIFESTYLE... not something that they do to make themselves happy. Or others happy. Or make the world a better place.

That's what's so messed up about it.

And the whole 'furfaggotry' and all these little words folk use to try and insult other people are mostly done by people who don't know against people who've completely forgotten the point. Mark my words, they'll start to crop up about you fellows.

Honestly this has gone on too long, and I've rambled too much.

It doesn't matter anyway. It's not going to change anyone's mind and it's all semantics and bullshit in the end. But... I was just trying to clarify, initially... And I hope that was at least successful.
Sali
#808916
6 months ago
Excuse me, edit to my last post, the furry community is internet based NOW, as a lot of communities are. The furry community, much like other nerd communities, is much older than the internet. Just a bit of clarification.
BattleGT
#808939
6 months ago
People taking Ponies too seriously? I find it hard not to agree with that.
Lola_Del_Rio
#809226
6 months ago
now, wheres the toilet paper when you need one!