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| HeinousActsZX #703110 8 months ago |
Aren't lesbians just really, really, really good friends, just like all lovers? |
| marioandsonic #703111 8 months ago |
inb4shitstorm |
| PonyRIG #703112 8 months ago |
have you heard of separate your mind into two sides, one for canon and other for fanon so you can enjoy all? |
| Roboshi #703113 8 months ago |
can we have a "Well duh!" none of the characters have any sexuality.
It's a kids show. The only characters we know to have had sex are those with kids. ie. the cast's parents. (And possibly the cakes) |
| Bananagher-Links #703115 8 months ago |
I used to wonder what friendship could be |
| OHMURR #703118 8 months ago |
^^^^^ |
| BattleGT #703119 8 months ago |
@PonyRig /thread |
| Gittonsxv #703123 8 months ago |
so you can not have friends and a sexuality at the same time? well fuck :/ |
| sigh #703124 8 months ago |
Oh hey, I saw this on DA about a week ago. The fact that they used a -_- instead of a real emote makes me laugh harder than anything else. |
| PonyRIG #703125 8 months ago |
@roboshi: how cakes have sex?! |
| Sono #703135 8 months ago |
Opinion master race. |
| Zincy #703136 8 months ago |
"how cakes have sex" How is babby formed?(ahh, google answers, how I miss trolling thee).
Anywho, I never got the outrage. So some people have lesbian fannon, big whoop. |
| StalkerZHS #703138 8 months ago |
noone in this show is a lesbian
except for that one pony.... yaknow.. that one pony whos a lesbian... |
| Tenure #703139 8 months ago |
Looks like someone can't take a little shipping with a grain of salt. |
| Ymirthor #703140 8 months ago |
Because Friendship =/= Lesbianism, right? |
| Anonymous #703141 8 months ago |
Pffft, says the OP. Aside from Rarity, none of the mane cast have a defined sexuality. Could be either or. |
| cthulhlu #703144 8 months ago |
lesbian carwash, she is the best pony. |
| Elysiaa #703148 8 months ago |
@HeinousActsZX
This |
| Anonymous #703149 8 months ago |
So what you're saying is, lesbians all hate each other and can't be friends.....?
I need a drink. |
| SRD639 #703152 8 months ago |
@StalkerZHS You hypocritical mother fucker! Rainbow Dash is just a tomboy pegasus! Not a lesbian! |
| Anonymous #703154 8 months ago |
real reason--thay all have a friend and we ship them. get it? FRIENDSHIP HAHAHAHA. INB4 TROLLFACE |
| Anonymous #703155 8 months ago |
#703138 Big Macintosh? |
| JackOfAllTrades #703158 8 months ago |
"Friendship" with benefits. |
| sigh #703163 8 months ago |
@SRD
Who said anything about Rainbow Dash? Surely he was referring to Twilight, who after seeing a diagram of a dick in her books decided that they were gross and that she would like girls forever. |
| Eponymaus #703166 8 months ago |
The use of 2 exclamation marks in a row annoys me more than the sentiment of this stamp. |
| Anonymous #703167 8 months ago |
Poor SRD. He's SO hungry... |
| Jackarunda #703168 8 months ago |
"I used to wonder what friendship could be"
"Then the brony fandom explained it all as lesbianism to me" couldn't resist XD |
| bronyturtle #703169 8 months ago |
@ Anon7031 Rainbow Dash. In sonic rainbow, after the show, when the douche ponies are apologizing she flies off with two colts, as opposed to spitfyre.. implied hetero |
| HighPlainsSquinter #703170 8 months ago |
@SRD639 I don't recall him saying it was Rainbow Dash.
And again, aside from Rarity, none of them have ever had a romantic interest. So who knows? Maybe she is. |
| Anonymous #703172 8 months ago |
still better than rule 34 |
| Anonymous #703173 8 months ago |
@Jackarunga
U can has my LOL. All of it. |
| Robomorons #703175 8 months ago |
I take it SRD's gonna keep posting these?
I hope he realizes that it just give us incentive to give them a bit of.........touching up. |
| HighPlainsSquinter #703179 8 months ago |
@bronyturtle That's stretching a bit, methinks. |
| BattleGT #703180 8 months ago |
Non-canon that is all |
| bustoblaster #703186 8 months ago |
@pic: I.....pfft, I can't even take this serious enough to reply to it.
@Stalker OBVIOUSLY you mean Berry Punch, right? :V |
| Anonymous #703188 8 months ago |
They are all asexual, end of fucking discussion. Shut up |
| bustoblaster #703190 8 months ago |
Oh, and since we're not allowed to have shipping, I suppose we have to invalidate all the fanon-made names as well. |
| c4tspajamas #703193 8 months ago |
What are you guys talking about? Lesbians can't have friends. |
| HighPlainsSquinter #703198 8 months ago |
#703188 'Cept Rarity. |
| thatguy #703199 8 months ago |
Of course none of them are lesbian.
Because they're all bisexual. |
| PVRyohei #703200 8 months ago |
There's no proof that they're lesbians, but except for Rarity, there's no proof that they're straight either. Their sexuality not being explained doesn't mean that they're asexual, but that their sexual orientation is unknown. It's a shame that people can't separate canon from fanon like PonyRIG said. |
| HighPlainsSquinter #703207 8 months ago |
@PVRyohei THANK YOU, you phrased that so much better than I did. |
| Anonymous #703208 8 months ago |
what's lesbian
is it a vegetable |
| sellyme #703220 8 months ago |
Lyra and Bon-Bon. Your argument is invalid.
Also, about 95% of Ponyville is female, they don't have much else of a choice. Even ignoring that, about 4% of female humans identify as lesbian or bisexual, why should we assume differently for sapient ponies? |
| BattleGT #703230 8 months ago |
^Based on Fanon |
| sellyme #703235 8 months ago |
Yes, but it has made it into the show, however subtly. Bon-Bon called out "Lyra!" in The Cutie Pox, which also had the nice side effect of disproving another one of Habsro's toys. |
| Zincy #703237 8 months ago |
I never understood why its a problem. Whats wrong with lesbians? Sure its fannon, but why do we really care? |
| bustoblaster #703244 8 months ago |
when did that happen, sellyme? |
| SRD639 #703247 8 months ago |
@Zincy Nothing's wrong with them. But you people stating that the cast of MLP is full of lesbians is just plain wrong. It's a damn cartoon for god's sake. |
| Zincy #703263 8 months ago |
Repeat after me SRD, No-Fanon-is-correct-Its-All-In-Their-Minds-and-I-shouldn't-care.
All i have to say to all this is. BIG FUCKING DEAL. |
| KhrisKross #703288 8 months ago |
@SRD639 Exactly. It's a cartoon. Cartoons spark imagination. Imagination spark implications. We're all IMPLYING they are lesbians. We don't know for sure WHAT their combined sexuality is. But do we make a big deal of it? No. We just sit back and enjoy our sick, twisted imaginations come to life before our very eyes. |
| Anonymous #703300 8 months ago |
SRD/These stamps give me a faint glimmer of hope in this fandom again. It's nice to see you're not ALL perverted morons. |
| Doctor_Whooves #703305 8 months ago |
While it's certainly true enough that none of the cast has had their sexuality defined on the show (aside from Rarity, who has at least been narrowed down to to Straight or Bi) and probably never will, I'm not sure how friendship precludes romance. Unless ponies brains can only operate in one mode at a time.
Having a gay character in a cartoon isn't inherently "wrong", though, as there's been no end of background/implied straight couples in cartoons (including FiM) and other children's films/shows as far back as you can go. There's no explicit mention of sexuality, issue made of it, or discussion of sex; but there are always couples who are together on-screen. Including same-sex couples in the same way would only help reinforce the idea in children that there's nothing actually wrong with same-sex relationships, and that this is an aspect of the society they're eventually going to have to function in as adults. Of course, I don't expect to see any such thing in a mass-media children's TV show or movie for quite some time. We'll probably need to wait for the current generation of suburbanite parents to age until they're rendered less influential, either through retirement, senility or discontinuity. |
| Zincy #703330 8 months ago |
Well spoken Doctor, a beacon of reason in a sea of idiocy. |
| KhrisKross #703336 8 months ago |
^ What he said. |
| Anonymous #703339 8 months ago |
Holy shit Doctor_Whooves, you're just an asshole to people who don't agree with you. |
| Anonymous #703343 8 months ago |
@sellyme: That was a retarded myth that anyone but the most ridiculous of fanboys saw right through. No-one has ever said the word "Lyra" on the show, and anyone who says otherwise is a moron. |
| Zincy #703351 8 months ago |
He speaks eloquently and thoughtfully and you call him an asshole? Oh..wait you're trolling, carry on. |
| Anonymous #703381 8 months ago |
>trolling
What is with bronies and calling everything they refuse to listen to trolling? You guys are extremely close minded. But I'm serious. It's not just him, either, that does this. |
| Anonymous #703386 8 months ago |
They're not going to have gay characters in a kids' show. It should be up to parents to decide when and how they are going to teach their kids about homosexuality, not the media. |
| WolfSeagull #703389 8 months ago |
Have you ever heard of friends with benefits? |
| Doctor_Whooves #703394 8 months ago |
lol, who was I an asshole to, anon339? I gave my opinion on the statement expressed in the stamp; I didn't badmouth the OP or anyone else posting in here.
For the record, I'm only an asshole to those people I've observed being rude on here, whether to me or someone else. |
| Zincy #703398 8 months ago |
His statement was a deliberate attempt to provoke an unfavorable response, I.e. troll comment.
But thats beside the point, Doctor wasn't an ass-hole, he never insulted anyone nor was he inflammatory. Therefore anons comment was pointess ad hominem. |
| Anonymous #703412 8 months ago |
Well, for one, you blamed parents on the stigma of homosexuality and spoke as if their opinions aren't as valuable as anyone else's.
What ever happened to tolerance? It's no longer "I think," It's "This is the truth, if you don't agree you're wrong." |
| Zincy #703415 8 months ago |
Anon, you are reading way to far into his comment. It was a reinforcing statement not a blaming one. Sometimes reading between the lines isn't a good idea. |
| Zincy #703421 8 months ago |
also, if thats the same anon, you're right he's not a troll. Just misguided. |
| Anonymous #703423 8 months ago |
Didn't I JUST tell you I'm not trying to troll? I'm not here to hurt anyone. But if you choose to act like a stubborn child, then so be it. I'll just ignore you. |
| Zincy #703433 8 months ago |
Which is why i rescinded my statement, you're not trolling. Just misguided. |
| Doctor_Whooves #703438 8 months ago |
@386: Eventually, they are. By your logic, there shouldn't be straight characters in a kids' show either. But that isn't how it works. Relationships are a natural part of life and human interaction, whether between people of difference genders or the same gender. It's up to parents to teach their kids the specifics of such relationships (sex/etc.) for sure, but not the fact they exist.
A same-sex couple shown on-screen in a cartoon doesn't automatically imply "OMFG SEX" any more than a heterosexual couple on-screen implies sex. That's merely a difference in your own perception of the nature of the two types of relationship, where no actual difference exists. Eventually, younger generations will stop perceiving that difference entirely, just as many (though not all, by any means) people now no longer consider once ethnicity of human superior to another. To people of just 100 years ago, that would almost have been unthinkable. |
| Anonymous #703453 8 months ago |
Explain to me how I'm being misguided. If I can fix it, please turn me in the right direction. |
| Zincy #703457 8 months ago |
You called him an ass-hole dispite the fact he showed no aggression, you also precived an attack on parents that wasn't there.
Plus you started out with baseless ad hominem without explaining why you thought he was an ass-hole. |
| Anonymous #703483 8 months ago |
Well, I wasn't basing my opinion of him on this picture alone. I'm not new to Ponibooru, I've seen the regulars before.
The attack on parents? Perhaps not a direct attack, but saying that we should wait until their opinions no longer matter? That's a bit cold. And I'm sure as hell not the only one using ad hominem here. |
| Doctor_Whooves #703487 8 months ago |
I wasn't attacking current parents; just pointing out that most people don't have the ability to move past (certain) prejudices. It's just something that's unfortunate, not something you can actually blame them for. I wouldn't hold humans of centuries past accountable for being racist or bigoted, as it makes no sense applying modern viewpoints to people who never had the benefit of a modern upbringing.
But until a younger, more forward-thinking generation assumes a more influential role in western societies, there are certain aspects to the recognition of same-sex relationships in society at large that I don't expect to take hold. One of those things is their inclusion as simply an intrinsic aspect of life in a society in such a thing as a children's program. |
| Zincy #703501 8 months ago |
Just because you're not the only one using it doesn't give you a free pass to use it. If you are going to respond to a well thought out statement(like doctors) with "you're an ass-hole" no one is going to pay attention to you.
Counter him with information, not anger. |
| WatermelonRat #703502 8 months ago |
Canonically, no, they're all asexual. In fanworks however, they can be whatever we want. |
| Anonymous #703514 8 months ago |
Well, I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but you came off as a bit blunter in your original statement.
I hold high respect for all opinions; In my eyes, they all should be treated equally. I'm all FOR equality and am very defensive of it. |
| Anonymous #703522 8 months ago |
@Doctor_Whooves: Like it or not we are a heteronormative culture. Heterosexuality is the social norm, and homosexuality is a deviation from the cultural norm. Because homosexuality is a controversial topic, it's one that parents would rather explain to their kids on their own terms. I would rather they avoid controversial issues with this show than alienate the many families who would be offended if the show started pushing messages that they did not want coming into conflict with the way they are raising their kids. You don't have to like it, but that's the way things are, and it is not this show's responisibility to teach kids that homosexuality and heterosexuality are the same (because let's face it, that is a gross oversimplification of the issue).
There are other controversial topics that they will never discuss on this show either, and they probably shouldn't in the interest of remaining inclusive to the target audience (children and families). For example, what about abortion? No matter how they handle the issue it's going to open up a huge can of worms, which is why it's better that they do not bring it up at all. It's just plain not something that would be appropriate for a kids' cartoon, and it would likewise result in a lot of parents deciding that the show is not appropriate for their kids. |
| Anonymous #703525 8 months ago |
Zincy, take a look at the first few things you said. Calling everybody else's ideas a sea of idiocy? Spontaneous accusation of trolling? I don't believe you're in any position to give me advice on responding with anger. |
| Zincy #703537 8 months ago |
Ahh, good you saw that. Yes, i failed to follow my own rules there. But i wasn't trying to make a statement now was I? |
| Anonymous #703557 8 months ago |
Statement or not, you were still offensive to me and certainly other people. |
| Zincy #703562 8 months ago |
Well, then it would have been ok for you guys to call me an ass-hole. However, Doctor was quite civil and didn't deserve it. |
| Doctor_Whooves #703578 8 months ago |
@522: Which is why I said I don't expect to see it for some time. Right or wong, that's currently how things are. But it won't remain a controversial topic forever.
It might be a gross oversimplification had I actually said "homosexuality and heterosexuality are the same", but I didn't. I said that loving relationships between people, whether they're the same gender or not, are the same; and all deserving of the same degree of respect and consideration from others and society at large. But of course for my society, same-sex marriage stopped being an issue over 6 years ago. As far as abortion goes, that's a drastic step up from the issue of same-sex relationships and I don't consider the two comparable (though abortion, too, isn't much of an issue here as opposed to the huge issue I realize it is in the US). But no, I wouldn't expect a children's show to tackle it as that does not only imply, but beat you over the head with, the facts of how humans reproduce. And that does remain up to parents as to when to discuss it should be discussed with their children. |
| Anonymous #703581 8 months ago |
Perhaps it was unwarranted, yes. I apologize to you and Doctor. But I still feel as if it his opinion was a bit stronger than needed. |
| Zincy #703593 8 months ago |
He's rather verbose, and it can come across a condescending..I know I'm the same way. Its just a different way of speaking. A grandiose way of speaking, but one never the less.
Ironically he actually talks like The Doctor, just less batty. |
| Zincy #703601 8 months ago |
Though now I'm confused, is there more then one anon? |
| Anonymous #703608 8 months ago |
Huh, funny. I've always liked that quality in people. I certainly wish I were more like that. |
| Zincy #703613 8 months ago |
Its all awesome to listen to, till you're on the receiving end. It has a tendency to make one sound like one is talking down to people. |
| Anonymous #703620 8 months ago |
I feel stupid just reading the things he says. |
| Doctor_Whooves #703626 8 months ago |
There's always both one and many anon(s).
The more accurately you measure the opinion of Anon, the less accurately you can know the number of those contributing as Anon; and vice versa. It's a special form of the Uncertainty Principle as it relates to Anon. |
| Anonymous #703635 8 months ago |
Just LISTENING to him makes me feel like a failure.
I mean, LOOK at that. |
| Zincy #703636 8 months ago |
Its hard to keep track of it, but yea now I think i see atleast 2 of them, maybe 3. |
| Zincy #703643 8 months ago |
Yea, Doctor surpassed my ability earlier as well. Which is why i bowed out of the debate and relegated myself to the side lines. |
| Anonymous #703653 8 months ago |
I wonder what he does for a living. I assume it will be better than anything I can ever dream of. |
| Zincy #703660 8 months ago |
If i had to wager a guess. Philosopher or Sociologist. but i could be wrong. |
| Anonymous #703674 8 months ago |
It's a shame that life can't be turned around and relived from a certain point. I'd redo so much if I could. I somewhat aspire to be something along those lines, but it would take more than a miracle for me to get there. |
| Zincy #703676 8 months ago |
Sociology isn't all its cracked up to be. I spend most of my time doing spread-sheets and compiling a small mountain of data. The occasional bit of field work I do is relegated to running surveys and questionnaires. |
| Anonymous #703692 8 months ago |
Oh, so you're in sociology. It's not really one of my primary interests; I just hope for something requiring a great degree of intellect.
Currently, I'm studying pre-med, but I'm very new to it. I have no idea where I want to be. |
| Zincy #703703 8 months ago |
Good luck with that, I've heard medical is about as challenging as they come. I had a hard enough time doing Sociobiology, wouldn't want to even touch the rest. |
| Anonymous #703730 8 months ago |
I've always had a passion for medicine. Biology in general is amazing for me; the body is like a machine more complex than anything our hands can create. Though it has certainly been more difficult than I expected, I think over time I'll adjust to the rigorous nature of the field.
All though that's about all I'm talented in. I'm fair at best when it comes to anything else. |
| Zincy #703739 8 months ago |
Look on the bright side, you're talented in a complex field. Well, unless the debate sparks up again I think I'm going to go play Skyrim. |
| Anonymous #704413 8 months ago |
By Celestia's mane... Why does this fandom have to be like this? Why can't we just watch the friggin' show and love it for what it is instead of arguing about whether or not they should turn Rainbow Dash into a lesbian? T_T |
| Spindrift #704784 8 months ago |
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| Anonymous #704848 8 months ago |
It would be extremely misogynistic to claim that the females characters in the show are heterosexual. The males are just for slave labour, reproduction and possiblt prostitution as they are totally void of personality and initiative. Spike being the only male character with a remarkable and developed personality doesn't deviate from the rule of males being slaves. |
| Anonymous #704960 8 months ago |
I'm not sure if you're being serious, but if you are... Keep in mind that we're only seeing Equestria from the adventures of six ponies. There could be a myriad of other things going on that we simply don't see. |
| Anonymous #704986 8 months ago |
People here have too much free time in their hands. |
| Anonymous #705027 8 months ago |
Now that was kind of rude. Where did that come from? |