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| HeinousActsZX #701708 8 months ago |
How.
The FUCK Is this not questionable? |
| noonemusteverknow #701711 8 months ago |
Oh hey. Look. Her insides are like a human's. That's very interesting. |
| Anonymous #701713 8 months ago |
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| Karazor #701716 8 months ago |
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I say we take off, and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. >:-( |
| noonemusteverknow #701717 8 months ago |
you okay thar twi? |
| deadz74 #701720 8 months ago |
alien disection , except it poor twilight |
| Cyanfunk #701721 8 months ago |
...so when zhey found him, ze guy's skeleton was missing and ze doctor was never heard from again! |
| Anonymous #701726 8 months ago |
THE truth if ponies are ever found in our world. |
| noonemusteverknow #701729 8 months ago |
Awww, comon, don't down vote it. I love twilight, but this picture is nice. I just find it weird that she's a person on the inside. Wouldn't that totally eff up her quadruped mobility? |
| cromwell15 #701731 8 months ago |
No worry, she recieved a lot of painkells, and will be sewed together afther some pics ^^ |
| noonemusteverknow #701738 8 months ago |
^ I don't know, the way she's bolted to the table... and the way the cut is torn... and the way she looks kinda dead. |
| Karazor #701739 8 months ago |
@Anon 726 Maybe, maybe not. Personally, I think there'd be a fuckton of public outcry if sapient beings were being treated this way. To the point of violent groups forming that go after the Mengele types. |
| noonemusteverknow #701748 8 months ago |
Karazor, PETA would have a field day. |
| Karazor #701762 8 months ago |
Not just PETA, man. PETA's the lunatic fringe, they spazz out over chickens. This is a species that's both a sophisticated tool user and fully capable of both self-recognition and communication. You'd have way, way more than just PETA going absolutely batshit over something like this. This is Mengele level shit. |
| Kooner #701766 8 months ago |
I liked when DLW was drawing 34 ... but this. |
| noonemusteverknow #701767 8 months ago |
Yeah, but they're all "HUMANS AND ANIMALS SHOULD HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS FUCK YOUR PETS YOU SLAVE DRIVERS" on the highest level. I'm just saying they'd love this kind of thing. |
| noonemusteverknow #701775 8 months ago |
Like I said. I like Twilight. I like this picture. Not into ero-guro. No torture implied. Grimdark as fuck. But it's interesting, none-the-less. Can't exactly explain why. |
| Karazor #701783 8 months ago |
@noonemusteverknow Oh, absolutely. I'm not denying that in the slightest, I'm just saying that more than just PETA would be seriously upset if something like this happened. Fuck, if I found out that a sapient alien species was being treated this way, I'd be pretty fucking upset. |
| noonemusteverknow #701791 8 months ago |
Agreed. |
| Doctor_Whooves #701793 8 months ago |
Nah, PETA wouldn't care about this. Were these ponies real, PETA would be going apeshit over the things they do with their animals just as much as they do about whatever humans do that pisses them off so much. PETA doesn't give a shit about sapient beings, which are typically able to speak for and/or defend themselves, so I doubt they'd be too concerned over poor Twi, any more than they're concerned over the poor bastards being tortured/etc. in various parts of the world.
Anyway, a nuke's not enough for this. It needs to be nuked, then the blast site can be annihilated in a matter/antimatter reaction before everything associated with this is tossed into a black hole which is then made to collide with a neutron star, all of which is accelerated through time to very end of the Universe where it can be immediately crushed when reality collapses in on itself. |
| Anonymous #701803 8 months ago |
I always never get why ponies cant get out when they hooves are in those "handcuffs", looks like they could easily escape.
Great pic btw. |
| Celestias_Servant #701808 8 months ago |
Mother of god... No. Just no. |
| Anonymous #701814 8 months ago |
You know, I would agree with this. If it was just Twilight who came, just like an alien who feel on Earth, I have no problem with vivisecting it.
We need to get as much knowledge as possible. Per example, we could finally understand how unicorn magic works. |
| sargesprinkles #701815 8 months ago |
Doesn't this guy know how to make a uniform cut when doing a dissection? |
| noonemusteverknow #701822 8 months ago |
^ this. |
| noonemusteverknow #701829 8 months ago |
I disagree, #814. The end never justifies the means when it comes to sentient lifeforms. Granted, maybe Twilight died before this picture. I guess that'd be okay. Well, depending on if they have any moral or religious objections and if they have any companions. If we're dealing with intelligent life, this basic crap we can learn from them. |
| Doctor_Whooves #701834 8 months ago |
@814 Did you go out of your way to make yourself sound like as much of a douche as possible, or do you not know the difference between vivisection and dissection? Vivisection is surgical experimentation on something while it's still alive, for fuck's sake.
An alien whose who's killed in a crash on Earth, sure, I could see someone justifying dissecting the body. Although the better choice would be to see if any of the ship's communications equipment were operational, and maybe getting a message off to see if someone else might come to collect the remains and do whatever it is they do to their dead. But I guess that's only something you'd do if you gave a shit, which most people don't. This is why humans always bring the shit down on themselves in sci-fi, lol. Rule #1 of sci-fi is that humans always deserve everything bad that comes their way. |
| Karazor #701835 8 months ago |
@Anon 814. Hello Doctor Mengele, didn't see you there. |
| noonemusteverknow #701838 8 months ago |
Even if you're apathetic towards the differentiation of lifeforms; i.e., one being more superior because it has sentience over animals or bacteria or plants, it still has a culture and a people and diplomacy is necessary to either develop or tolerate each other's existence. |
| Anonymous #701846 8 months ago |
Anon814 is here. People, please remember morality is subjective. Also, that was just my OP.
"this basic crap we can learn from them." There is a difference. Seeing something working is different from hearing about it. |
| noonemusteverknow #701850 8 months ago |
^ That's just like, your opinion, man. |
| Karazor #701854 8 months ago |
@Anon 846 Morality is subjective to a point. Deliberately inflicting lethal torture on a sapient being for the sake of "Oh, well, let's just see what we can find out" is way the fuck past that point, and I can't see it as being anything but evil.
Go back to your twins, Doctor Mengele. |
| noonemusteverknow #701857 8 months ago |
Sorry, couldn't resist. =P Sure. Morality is subjective if you believe that. I personally don't. But. Even if it is, immediately ceasing and experimenting on an alien lifeforms with just as much intelligence, emotions and culture as you makes you candidate for the Galaxy's Hugest Douche. |
| Doctor_Whooves #701864 8 months ago |
While morality can be subjective, I'd be curious to see how subjective you think this would be if you were strapped down on that table, fully aware while someone sliced open your gut in order to figure out how humans tick.
Personally, I wouldn't do this to any creature, intelligent or otherwise. Whether someone wants to engage in vivisection on animals is their own business, provided what they're doing is legal. But performing vivisection on an intelligent being, however subjective morality might be, sounds pretty goddamn demented to me. |
| noonemusteverknow #701868 8 months ago |
seizing*, blah. I'll level with you, Anon. I believe in science. I believe in gaining as much knowledge as possible. But there has to be an end to that knowledge. There has to be a goal. There has to be love in the process. For example. No one in their right fucking mind would take a human child and experiment on them, say, put them in isolation to see how they would develop. Would we gain knowledge from it? Yes. Would it be an abomination? Yes. Like the Nazi experiments on prisoners to gain survival data (Godwin's law time), it'd be useful, but at what cost? Besides. If you kill a unicorn, the bronies will eat you. |
| Vree #701869 8 months ago |
There does exist a rationale of sorts that says that the suffering of an animal may be ethically worse, since a sapient being can comprehend and rationalize suffering where a simple minded creature can not.
Anyway, I'm surprised that ponies have regular human organs inside them. Who'd have thought? (Even if you consider the fact that they are magical, equine anatomy would be quite different. Only the stomach is way more complicated in a grazing mammal.) |
| noonemusteverknow #701879 8 months ago |
^ Yes! Finally. Inorite!? |
| Karazor #701897 8 months ago |
(In case anyone doesn't realize who I've been referring to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
Probably the single most appallingly evil human being in recent history) |
| noonemusteverknow #701904 8 months ago |
Didn't know too much about him, Karazor. Sounds like it'd be worth it to look up a documentary or something. |
| Anonymous #701905 8 months ago |
Soaking all the disnecessary hate, let me collect your arguments.
@noone There is no end to something such as knowledge. What doesn't grows withers and die. Also, the reason we doesn't do these things anymore is because they were done on the past, so there is no more need. On a new species, it is a different matter. @Doctor Do you believe in aliens? I do. And I am sure they already did this to humans. Like I said before, we also did this to humans. And the fact of them being inteligent is extra reason to do this. You may say this since this is a pony, and you know ponies are good. But if there are aliens races... they may not be nice. That is why we always need to even the playing field. Finally, since you insist in talking about the nazis, the main reason Mengelle is so bad seen is because he never discovered anything relevant. If he had found the cure for an incurable sickness, for example, most people would still say he was an asshole, but others, the ones who were cured with this research, would see him as someone who did what had to be done. |
| Karazor #701911 8 months ago |
@Anon 905 That's my fucking point. You're talking about cutting her up "just to see what makes her tick." That's exactly what Josef Megele was doing, mutilating people out of sick sadistic curiosity and he didn't learn a single useful thing! |
| noonemusteverknow #701916 8 months ago |
Anonymous: Then that's unhuman. :D We are born to wither and die and understand the beauty in that. If you want to be a heartless bastard and harden your heart to the value in empathy, go ahead. But even with your heartless approach, it'll only lead to stifling knowledge. And I'm sure you'd disagree, but even more beneficial than biological knowledge (which as I said can be acquired at a later time, if we can understand it) is knowledge of ourselves from having the gift of a external sentient reflection of who we are. |
| Anonymous #701920 8 months ago |
@Karazor
The reason he didn't learn anything is because we already had a pretty knowledge about how a human works. She is a new race, so he doesn't know anything about them. |
| Anonymous #701921 8 months ago |
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| Anonymous #701927 8 months ago |
@noone
That's just OP. |
| noonemusteverknow #701933 8 months ago |
Btw. I'm not trying to hate. When I say it's heartless, I mean it. There's no other way around it. And like any argument on the internet, I understand that this is going to go no where. I understand your "at all costs" approach, but there's value in those costs. That's why they're called costs. And science won't benefit from being a dickwad, because it won't be working towards bettering those costs to prevent the loss of those costs, but for its own self-glorification. That's like... rape instead of consensual sex. One benefits one party at the cost of the other, the other benefits both but is harder to reach. The latter is better. That's all I gotta say, cause internet arguments never are won. |
| Karazor #701936 8 months ago |
@Anon 920 And how much of that, pray tell, was gained from vivisections, hmm? Show me an example. Go ahead, I'll wait. |
| Doctor_Whooves #701940 8 months ago |
@905: So because aliens might have done this to humans (unlikely), and because they might not be "nice" (who the fuck knows?), performing vivisection on an alien who crashed to Earth is somehow justified?
You're also treating all aliens as a single group. It's unlikely that even a single alien species has visited Earth in our history, however just because one species might have experimented on humans (again, this is so fucking unlikely it's almost irrelevant) doesn't mean every other species did, or would. Besides, any species with technology advanced enough to travel between different star systems wouldn't need to cut you open to figure out how a human body works. But wow, I'm glad you aren't in a position of power. I'm not sure I'd even trust you to scrub a toilet. Your rationalizations are sickening. |
| noonemusteverknow #701941 8 months ago |
...oh crap. I'm ranting again. I always rant. Fuuuu.. I'm gonna go make some tea and pretend I wasn't here. |
| Karazor #701949 8 months ago |
Actually, I'll supply the answer to my own question: none. Anatomy studies were done on cadavers, not live subjects.
Frankly, I'm done with this discussion. It's seriously like I'm trying to talk to Mengele. |
| Anonymous #701998 8 months ago |
@noone
The problem is that you are not weighing it on a scale. Why shouldn't we sacrifice ten dogs, per example, if it meant the betterment of all human live? @Karazor I was searching for a online version one of the books I read, which pretty nailed the subject, but couldn't. So, I searched for sites who talked about this. Here is two of them: http://www.gordonmoyes.com/2005/10/19/vivisection/http://www.idebate.org/debatabase/topic_details.php?topicID=7 Most of the Pro and Con arguments are here. And I Believe the Pro's holds much water. Remember it's hard to find especific something. The reason being that in order to achieve a result, you need to do a lot of different kinds of tests. @Doctor No, I meant it's something natural. And please, drop the hate. |
| GeminiSaint #702023 8 months ago |
What's up with her ribcage? It looks...metallic, or something. |
| noonemusteverknow #702036 8 months ago |
^ Maybe they had to break it.
@Anon, I'm out of this. Call it a retreat or whatever. |
| Anonymous #702053 8 months ago |
@noone
Why would I do that? The objective of a debate is to show your opinions to others and convince them. If I couldn't convince you... I didn't won anything. |
| Cyanfunk #702231 8 months ago |
Hey anyone hear about this thing called Unit 731. |
| Anonymous #702335 8 months ago |
OP and artist are faggots. |