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| Kanrabat #639737 8 months ago |
My headcanon was blown to bits... |
| Anonymous #639745 8 months ago |
I told you to cut the drinking, Derpy... |
| Fanloser #639750 8 months ago |
To each their own explanation, personally I like the Half-sisters idea. |
| Anonymous #639753 8 months ago |
Who cares! We need to start formulating headcanon for Dinky's pig Peter, and Carrot Top's pig Gary!
picture for reference >>81084 |
| LordBristle #639756 8 months ago |
How about we divide by zero and see if this gets easier to explain? |
| Anonymous #639757 8 months ago |
Headcanons are glass cannons. The more you fire it the weaker it gets. That said, I still support Derpy and Dinky as mother and daughter, and believe there are non-ridiculous ways to incorporate Sparkler into fanon. |
| Anonymous #639769 8 months ago |
I like the idea of Derpy being a hot young trophy wife and the older of her unicorn husband's two daughters being just about the same age and hating her. And also hating how much Dinky loves her. |
| Anonymous #639776 8 months ago |
Also, an important thing to remember is that Derpy IS in the stands cheering some team on. It's very unlikely that she'd be spectating the Sisterhooves Social if she weren't closely related to one of the contestants. She could be cheering on Carrot Top and her sister, but it could just as likely be Dinky and Sparkler. |
| Anonymous #639777 8 months ago |
Well let me put what I find to be the best way to handle this. You see, I find that Derpy/Dinky gets worse when it's patched up with these sort of explanations, and it irks me when fanon is trying to force out what should be clear from the show.
So what idea am I promoting? Alternate goddamned universes. It works for Cupcakes at least. And the best thing about alternate Universes? You don't have to come up with stupid explanations for how things are compatible. You can just make something everyone will enjoy. |
| Anonymous #639778 8 months ago |
I know it's just how it's being presented, but I am amused by the idea of Derpy genuinely not knowing Dinky's father, Sparkler's name, or her own age. |
| Anonymous #639797 8 months ago |
I'm sticking with parallel universe.
One universe Dinky is Sparkler's sister but not Derpy's daughter. The other universe has it the other way around. If something tries to conflict with it, it just needs to pull out the "Alternate Universe" card and all arguments are therefore rendered invalid. No need to shoddily adjust to the canon in ways that make it feel worse. Because ALTERNATE UNIVERSE. |
| Hellfire #639804 8 months ago |
I love how some people have called anyone who doesn't subscribe to the Derpy/Dinky thing as "Canon-Nazis".
If you don't agree with my personal theory that Derpy is really a 30 foot tall mutant Dolphin who's real name is Fred, then you are a canon-nazi. |
| King_Maverick #639809 8 months ago |
#639777
>Implying that's fanon itself is not really a form of alternate universes in the first place. |
| King_Maverick #639813 8 months ago |
@Hellfire
Nobody is calling people who don't subscribe to the Derpy/Dinky thing as "Canon-Nazis". People are calling people who go "HA HA! IT'S NOT CANON SO JUST DROP IT ALTOGETHER AND DEAL WITH IT" and the like "Canon Nazis". |
| Anonymous #639814 8 months ago |
Will the headcanon ever survive such grammar? |
| Anonymous #639819 8 months ago |
@Hellfire
I would actually like to see that and I'm someone willing to call myself a "Canon Nazi". I just want it to acknowledge itself as an alternate universe and not warp canon interpretations to suit itself. Instead of trying to fit Sparkler into a fanon she doesn't, in such a way that feels disrespectful to canon, you can just start an alternate universe type thing. All problems are handled and at least this "Canon Nazi" will be able to enjoy your stories. |
| Dragoon #639831 8 months ago |
On the next Derpy Hooves Adventures |
| Anonymous #639834 8 months ago |
@King_Maverick
#639809 Then why do people keep trying to make stupid explanations to reconcile with the Canon? If you're going with the alternate universe strategy then don't half-ass it. This "Canon-Nazi" is more concerned with how Sparkler is implemented then if she is at all. |
| King_Maverick #639851 8 months ago |
#639834
Why does it even bother you so much when the reconcile itself is pretty much fanon anyway? If it really bothers that much and causes you to not to enjoy canon, then you honestly have just as much problems as they do. |
| WatermelonRat #639862 8 months ago |
Fanon has always been separate from canon. The animators explicitly stated that nothing about the background characters is canon, it's up to us. This only gives us something new to incorporate into fanon. If a new fanon idea takes hold that involves Dinky NOT being Derpy's daughter, fine, but it will have to prove itself better than the current fanon before I'll accept it. |
| Kanrabat #639875 8 months ago |
@Anonymous
#639769 Derpy as the Trophy Wife is the best explanation yet. You sir, have won over 9000 internets. |
| Anonymous #639888 8 months ago |
Yes, only sisters could enter, because AJ is clearly Sweeties sister.
Fucktards. |
| Anonymous #639894 8 months ago |
Sparkler is actually Derpy, all the other Derpys seen up until now have been clones created by bad guys from Stargate SG1 and Depry used Dr Who's "RETARDIS" to travel through time to make it to the sisterhooves social and put on a unicorn disguise because she was being persued by charcators from some other nerdy-ass show that has nothing to do with MLP:FIM... If you don't agree, than FUCK YOU CANON NAZI.
^ This is you guys in a nutshell, and you sound fucking insane. |
| King_Maverick #639920 8 months ago |
You know, what, Ellipses? Fuck it.
You want to go around telling people how their fanons should be and force your beliefs on what should be fanon, fine. I don't care anymore. This just isn't worth fighting for... |
| Hellfire #639927 8 months ago |
Lol u Guys. Everyone sounds so fucking retarded here. |
| Anonymous #639940 8 months ago |
@King_Maverick
It bothers me because the explanations are forced and ugly, and really shouldn't be bothered with. Forced explanations just aren't as enjoyable then people actually having the fun they claim that they're having with the fanon. @WatermelonRat And you can't have more then one fanon? Basically I enjoy both ideas but I simply don't think they should muddle each other up. |
| RedCore #639996 8 months ago |
I'll say Dinky got a sisterforaday, just how Sweetie Belle had Applejack as a sisterforaday. |
| mayanightstar #640008 8 months ago |
I like to think Dinky was adopted because they're two different kinds of ponies, and from what I've seen so far all of the characters that are related to each other seem to be the same kind of pony... |
| Hellfire #640066 8 months ago |
Looks like every Derpy/Dinky pic from now on will come with one complementary shitstorm. |
| Anonymous #640068 8 months ago |
I think of Dinky as being Derpy's adopted daughter, and had a Big Sister for the day so she could compete in the Sisterhooves Social. |
| Anonymous #640080 8 months ago |
@RedCore
And I'll just shove Derpy/Dinky into an alternate universe so I can enjoy them without having to irritate my headcanon which I like keeping as true to the show as possible. I really don't see why more people don't simply do this. |
| Aggressively-Pastel #640093 8 months ago |
Headcanon, spiked. Or something. |
| WatermelonRat #640222 8 months ago |
@anon940
I have no problem with people who would rather separate the two versions of fanon. If you like the idea of Dinky being Sparkler's biological sister and unrelated to Derpy, more power to you, but I resent the idea that Derpy-Dinky fanon is somehow less valid now than it was before this episode aired. It was all fanon to begin with, after all. When I saw Dinky with Sparkler, it took less than a minute to reconcile it with my personal headcanon. It wasn't some desperate denial, it was an interesting idea for a new element to Derpy-Dinky fanon. Sparkler being a surrogate sister to Dinky and helping Derpy with raising her is far more heartwarming to me than to just say they're biological sisters. |
| Anonymous #640253 8 months ago |
@WatermelonRat
I like both, but I find your method slightly messy. I can appreciate Derpy/Dinky fanon, but it really has no place in anyone's Headcanon. It's technically more valid from a canon perspective to view them as Sisters. With that out of the way, not all of ones fanon even needs to fit within the realm of ones Headcanon or any canon at all. On that note, what do you think of the possibility that while she doesn't have a daughter of her own she is however helping to raise Carrot Top's sister after her parents died or something? I haven't really seen Dinky used as anything else other then a generic daughter figure, even if that sounds insulting. So basically, what really prevents the basic theme being shifted to another foal? |
| Anonymous #640277 8 months ago |
Dinky as Derpys daughter has just been...
RETCONNED! |
| Anonymous #640297 8 months ago |
@#640277
Pretty much. Art can still me made, but it should be self-aware enough to realize that it isn't really plausible anymore. |
| King_Maverick #640315 8 months ago |
@anon640253 aka Ellipses
>I can appreciate Derpy/Dinky fanon, but it really has no place in anyone's Headcanon. And who are you to dictate someone else's headcanon? The more I read your posts, the more you sound like some elitist douche who is having a hard time accepting that some people view things different from you. A headcanon is someone else's PERSONAL fanon belief and to just go around saying "Well it has no place in your headcanon". If somebody wants to believe in their own headcanon that the entire events of Friendship is Magic is all one big dream by a human Twilight Sparkle, it's fine because it's THEIR headcanon. |
| Anonymous #640370 8 months ago |
@King_Maverick
Perhaps I don't understand the definition of headcanon then. Generally I see it as a collection of things that are based on and grown from the most plausible interpretation of canon as it appears. But I suppose I may be misinterpreting the term. Headcanon to me is the brain folder where I put everything that seems the logical development based on what I can see of the canon. This is something to be kept pure of a biased view, everything in it has to stem from canon. Everything else, no matter how much I like it simply gets filed away under Fanfiction, popular Fanfiction or non-contradictory Fanfiction. But I suppose some people have different definitions then I do. So I suppose I should look up the definition of "headcanon". |
| Anonymous #640379 8 months ago |
Hmm... Looked it up.
Seems I got the definition wrong. Welp, that's that then. I suppose the right thing to say would've been that Derpy/Dinky doesn't fit into an unbiased interpretation of the shows canon. |
| MyLittleJosieph #640388 8 months ago |
I'm STILL not quite getting how this josses the idea of Dinky being Derpy's daughter. Seriously! It just means she now has a sister she can play with when mother isn't around, and one who can show her the ropes in using magic! Also, more D'AWWWWWWW! moments we can all indulge in! |
| King_Maverick #640403 8 months ago |
@#640370
Here is the definition of Headcanon I found somewhere on a TVtropes discussion Head Canon, or Personal Canon, is an idea about a story universe of that an individual has in their head, sometimes based on things within universe and sometimes just something they've thought up at random. It may be contrived partially from a dream or from similar experiences in their life even. Although it may not be actually canon, in their head it is a legit part of the story. Often fans will discuss their own personal 'Head Canon' which can lead to Wild Mass Guessing. For example, we have the character Bob. He has been seen in his works to be pretty good at playing cards once or twice, though in canon it is not referenced often. A fan may get it in their head canon that Bob was once a poker champion, or that Bob holds card games every once in a while with Alice and the gang. Or maybe cards have never really been mentioned, but being good at them just totally sounds like a Bob thing. It only becomes Fanon if a lot of the fandom latch onto the idea and support it. --- But I must apologize myself, as I seem to have taken the definition of fanon wrong since I mistakingly interchange it with Headcanon. |
| Anonymous #640409 8 months ago |
@MyLittleJosieph
Maybe... I would think an unfanon-biased interpretation would note that the precise relationship is improbable as Derpy joins a Young Flyers Competition in the show, and would theoretically have a point in saying flashbacks tend to be less "real". But /shrug. I just hope people have an unbiased opinion along with their favorite theories. |
| Anonymous #640418 8 months ago |
@King_Maverick
That's a pretty good definition to go with, though I really don't know what to call the more canon-based conclusions that don't use fanon to support themselves. Non-fanon based headcanon? |
| King_Maverick #640430 8 months ago |
@#640418
Umm how about... canon? |
| WatermelonRat #640448 8 months ago |
Derpy being Dinky's mother was never presented as a serious canon possibility that might someday be revealed in the show. Nothing has been jossed/retconned because it was never a serious fan theory in the first place, only fanon for background characters that would otherwise have no characterization. |
| Anonymous #640461 8 months ago |
@King_Maverick
So I would say they're canonically sisters? Because while It is quite clearly the obvious conclusion from watching the show without referencing fanon, some would argue the point as it's not directly stated anywhere. And others still would argue the point and find me to sound a tad presumptuous if I stated it was canon that Derpy was around Rainbow Dash's age because her only appearances in the "real world" had her young enough to join a Young Flyers competition along with Dash. These are honestly the conclusions I would come to if I was only making minor assumptions based on the show, and decided to closely examine these characters all on my own but they aren't quite canon. So what can I call that? They're all quite reasonable assumptions that filter the information as well as possible, but the canonocity is still something people would argue. |
| King_Maverick #640475 8 months ago |
@#640461
I dunno. Just call it your headcanon that you drew from your personal conclusions from canon itself. It's just another headcanon. The only difference is that you use strictly canon to structure it. |
| Anonymous #640511 8 months ago |
@King_Maverick
Ah. Generally I had tended to think people used this type of thing along with their wilder headcanon as a kind of loose guiding structure. With their more canon contradictory concepts detached and orbiting the greater structure. Now I'm not so sure. Do people use that sort of system, with layers of theories based on plausibility? It's something that just seems natural to use to me, but is it? I suppose that's where my confusion stems from. |
| Kanrabat #640588 8 months ago |
All these comments...
(@)___(@) |
| Draconequus #640611 8 months ago |
My headcanon is that Dinky wanted to participate but didn't have a sister, so Ditzy asked Sparkler to be her sister for the day.
It worked for Sweetie Belle and Applejack didn't it? |
| Anonymous #640717 8 months ago |
Or maybe, just maybe, it's another filly who looks like Dinky? |
| DASWED #641213 8 months ago |
this was my first thought when i saw dinky with her sister |
| DASWED #641215 8 months ago |
also, check cutiemark chronicles, derpy is grown up there |
| Anonymous #641284 8 months ago |
Oh well, I'm (I said I, if you have another opinion, it's yours :3) still going with "Dinky got a sister/half-sister, Derpy is still Dinky's mom" idea, so deal with it. |
| extheferret #641287 8 months ago |
Oh goddamnit, forgot to login, the comment over that one is mine. |
| PsychoPower #642121 8 months ago |
Derpy is already full grown during the Cutie Mark Chronicles flashback. Having a teenage daughter isn't too much of a stretch. |