
| Anonymous #633696 8 months ago |
Do I see what I think I see?
I think I do. And I think this will prove far more fun the Heartstrings ever has. |
| Anonymous #633697 8 months ago |
Derpy has 2 daughters.
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| Zeren #633698 8 months ago |
I say they are step sisters. That way both can be true. |
| gillnavisingh #633699 8 months ago |
So, that pink/magenta unicorn is Dinky's big sister, and I assume Derpy's older daughter? |
| Anonymous #633701 8 months ago |
Well, there goes another bit of fanon. The show has been killing fanon like it's Freddy Krueger. |
| Anonymous #633706 8 months ago |
not ruined... just needs some clever,... reasoning for this. Seafoam being derpy's sister and therefore Dinky's Aunt could be a better explaination... |
| gillnavisingh #633708 8 months ago |
Let's work around this, like we always do |
| Bananagher-Links #633711 8 months ago |
FANON IS DEAD
no big surprise |
| IpersonallylikedCupcakes #633713 8 months ago |
Welp, there goes the "Dinky doo" fanon.
But hey, now we can think of a new name for her. I propose Grapelicious. |
| Wrongness #633714 8 months ago |
Well were gonna let Sweetie partner wit AJ so obviously you don't actually have to be sisters. |
| Glord #633715 8 months ago |
Game over man! Game over!
It's all fucked, they blew it man, everything's dead! |
| Anonymous #633716 8 months ago |
Re:gillnavisingh. Derpy would look like Rarity's mom if she had two ponies in that time period. |
| ChiefRampancy #633719 8 months ago |
OR they could just be trading sisters for fun. I mean, they let Sweetie Belle enter with Applejack. |
| Yorec #633720 8 months ago |
All this means to me is that Derpy now has two daughters and is possibly the same age as Mrs. Cake. |
| Anonymous #633722 8 months ago |
how did this ruin fanon? dinky was never her sister, if anything the only difference now is that derpy now has another daughter |
| gillnavisingh #633727 8 months ago |
With the anon just above my last post - that could work. After all, Sweetie Belle didn't use Rarity for the first little bit of the race, so maybe the rules can slide to allow a "Sister for One Day" substitution. |
| Anonymous #633731 8 months ago |
Or we could disregard fanon when coming to conclusions.
It's only the logical thing to do. New fanon can always be crafted. |
| Anonymous #633733 8 months ago |
Re:Wrongness, Sweetie was a special case plus it was part of the plan was to switch AJ with Rarity so yeah, not happening or else Scootaloo would've try to enter with Rainbow Dash. |
| Seviper #633735 8 months ago |
Clones?
Or.... Derpy just asked Seafoam to run with her daughter since she doesn't have a sister? |
| SenatorSufficient #633736 8 months ago |
Face it, my fellow bronies, our fanon was bound to come in conflict with the canon as the show went on. |
| Anonymous #633737 8 months ago |
Wow. I have never seen a fandom be so clingy to it's collective headcanon. Grow up. |
| King_Maverick #633740 8 months ago |
Derpy signed up Dinky for the Ponyville Big Brother/Big Sister program.
There. Fanon saved. |
| Zeren #633744 8 months ago |
SHE CAN BE A STEP SISTER. NOT ALL IS LOST. QUIT PANICKING. |
| Anonymous #633748 8 months ago |
This can't end well. |
| Anonymous #633749 8 months ago |
Why do we need to cling to Fanon? We can always make new theories. Why should we alter our interpretation of canon based on fanon?
If seems my fears with the Heartstrings debacle were well founded. |
| Glord #633750 8 months ago |
Bravo King_Maverick, you are truly the greatest mind here. |
| Homfrog #633770 8 months ago |
Both sides of this argument are very, very amusing to me. I like King_Maverick's (#633740) idea.
Now to address the two Berry Punches. |
| Anonymous #633782 8 months ago |
This wasn't "Motherhooves" social, you know? |
| Anonymous #633784 8 months ago |
Do we really want to give our fanon superiority to canon?
Do we really need to be so afraid of change that we have to somehow change our perceptions and wrap our brains around overly complex "solutions" because we can't just let go? |
| Anonymous #633788 8 months ago |
One of them is Berryshine. |
| Yorec #633792 8 months ago |
Yeah King_Maverick's is the best idea so far. |
| SenatorSufficient #633803 8 months ago |
King_Maverick just saved the fandom. |
| Glord #633806 8 months ago |
@anon 784
We are an overly obsessed fanon, it's a requirement. |
| ancara22 #633810 8 months ago |
Suddenly, anon #782 gave me an idea......
those two are sisters, and Ditzy is their mother. ......does that make sense, hopefully? |
| Anonymous #633819 8 months ago |
I personally like the idea that Derpy had two or more daughters. Actually, I always liked the idea that Derpy adopted a couple of children, but I seam to be the only one with that idea. |
| Anonymous #633820 8 months ago |
Saved the fandom?
Or doomed it to overly rigid, inflexible stagnation? Can't we just change? Is it really so hard? |
| Anonymous #633830 8 months ago |
The attempts at trying to justify their fanon reminds me of a certain time lord.
"I love humans. They always see patterns in things that aren't there." |
| Glord #633839 8 months ago |
YES!!
We are over due for a flame war, and by damn I am going to fan these cinders until there is a raging firestorm of rage going. |
| Anonymous #633856 8 months ago |
Don't worry!
I prepared for it by supporting Heartstrings! LET THE FANON BURN! FROM THE ASHES SHALL RISE A NEW, EVEN GREATER FANON! |
| Glord #633862 8 months ago |
Yes! more hating the fanon! Flame War! Flame War! |
| Yorec #633863 8 months ago |
This is totally unrelated but I just have to say it, next Friday is Skyrim. How am I going to pull myself away to watch the next episode over the weekend?! |
| Anonymous #633868 8 months ago |
I don't think this is a flame war. After all, isn't part of the fun of watching my little pony making up stories based on the few seconds you see certain background characters? We don't all half to agree, and there's a lot of reasonable explanations here. |
| Anonymous #633869 8 months ago |
no that's it, it's done no more KABOOM |
| TinTwit #633874 8 months ago |
Why is it so difficult to believe maybe Derpy has two daughters, or anything else? Suddenly Dinky has a sister and...that means Derpy can't be her mother anymore? Lol. |
| DaisyHead #633875 8 months ago |
this is now season two canon. |
| Anonymous #633892 8 months ago |
@#633868
That should be part of the fun, but the fanon has grown too strong. I don't hate it but IT MUST BURN! We can't let it grow stale, can we? We must keep it flexible! We must allow the old ideas to fade when they're no longer sensible or else we'll just devolve into crazy fanon worshipers. |
| Anonymous #633894 8 months ago |
Re:TinTwit, because Derpy cannot look that good with two kids without plastic surgery.
And two Unicorns in a row what are the chances? It's best just to move on then to deny. |
| nemryn #633899 8 months ago |
819: No, I was thinking that Dinky was adopted, too. So much for that now, though! |
| Anonymous #633931 8 months ago |
@g33892,
Annon 633868 here. Your right. I personally like keeping it flexible. Everyone's different though, and I still love the ones that are a bit more inflexible. @633894: if her father's a unicorn, then maybe unicorns are dominant. We never saw rarity's father without a hat. He might be an earth pony. |
| psycho_killer #633933 8 months ago |
hold your horses. (I just had to)
can we say that it's not dinky. anyone know about cosmical twins (or whatever fu*king way that shit's spelled) it means that some where there is a person EXACTLY like you. just the looks, not the personality. have I've solved the problem? |
| Draconequus #633935 8 months ago |
Here's a random thought.
Dinky was depressed that a few of her friends were going to be in a contest with their sisters, so Ditzy/Derpy asked her friend if she would be Dinky's sister for the day. |
| Anonymous #633937 8 months ago |
Corrected the name, to Sparkler. |
| TinTwit #633941 8 months ago |
#633894
Sounds more like you simply dislike the idea that Dinky is Derpy's daughter to begin with. We have no idea what the "chances" are. The father could be a unicorn and foals always take on the race of the father. We have no idea what canon pony genetics are like. Or, Seafoam could have been an adopted daughter. I'm not disagreeing with being flexible with fanon. Not even close. I'm just saying at least be sensible about it. Dinky having a sister BY NO MEANS disqualifies Derpy from being the mother. |
| Anonymous #633956 8 months ago |
I like bananas |
| D_Pony #633969 8 months ago |
@3892 time travel, while sparkler took the slow path, not sure if dinky was conveived in the past, or the present, or even the future |
| Danny #633982 8 months ago |
Anonymous said: Is this ironic on purpose? That doesn't fit at all. |
| Robomorons #633990 8 months ago |
Me thinks they are leaving clues as to whom Derpy's husband could be.
I suggest we start cracking and find out post-haste! |
| Anonymous #633993 8 months ago |
@TinTwit
It makes it slightly less likely because while she looks old enough for to have a young child, she doesn't look old enough to have a kid that looks her age. |
| Anonymous #634012 8 months ago |
@ 633993 but she was also an adult while Twilight was a filly....but she was also a filly at that time too.
yeah, dr. whooves is her husband, and time travel is definitely involved. Do to time paradoxes, there are probably 5-500 different Derpys around at any time. |
| TinTwit #634026 8 months ago |
We also don't know the rate at which ponies age.
Also, here's a thought. How often do we see siblings that look so radically different? I personally can't think of any siblings off the top of my head that don't look somehow similar. I could be wrong, though. The idea that Sparkler there is just a stand-in for a sister Dinky doesn't actually have makes sense to me as well. |
| Homfrog #634028 8 months ago |
I love you King_Maverick. |
| Anonymous #634034 8 months ago |
@#634012
And that reply, though a joke, is exactly why I think the field needs to be burned to allow for new growth. People will come up with explanations like that, except that they'll be serious. Unless we can change. |
| psycho_killer #634045 8 months ago |
@634012 Wat? |
| TinTwit #634046 8 months ago |
Also, just look at Rarity's mom...she had two kids and looks smashing. |
| Anonymous #634047 8 months ago |
@Anon012
There were multiple Derpies in Twi's flashback though. Up to this point I thought Derpy had a family like the Nurse Joys from Pokemon. I also thought Derpy & Ditzy were identical cousins with Dinky being the daughter of the latter. With this though, there is some doubt. |
| FanOfMostEverything #634053 8 months ago |
I admit, this made me sad. Especially since I'm writing a fanfic that hinges on Dinky being Derpy's daughter.
Oh well. Keep calm and carry on. I will twist logic into 12-dimensional knots if necessary. |
| Arteus #634059 8 months ago |
Seafoam is Derpy's sister, Derpy couldn't compete because of her eye condition but Dinky wanted to compete. Seafoam, being Dinky's aunt, volunteered to take her.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it. |
| Anonymous #634070 8 months ago |
@TinTwit
And yet she still has subtle design differences which make her look older. Can we get a comparison to Mrs. Cake? |
| psycho_killer #634079 8 months ago |
how about half siblings? on the fathres side? |
| King_Maverick #634087 8 months ago |
Now we just need a troll image with that one guy jumping in a bunch of other guys labelled "Dinky/Derpy fanon followers" with the guy showing them this picture. |
| Anonymous #634094 8 months ago |
this is 634012 here. I was just making a joke, by the fact that there is usually more then one derpy in the early crowd scenes and in Twilight's flashback. It reminds me of a game with time travel, were there was a lot of one character running around until you sent them back in time at the end. |
| TinTwit #634097 8 months ago |
All right, I concede. I prefer the idea that Dinky's an only daughter anyway. :P
I still maintain therefore that Sparkler is not actually Dinky's sister, but a stand-in since Dinky couldn't participate otherwise. :D |
| Anonymous #634102 8 months ago |
How about we accept that it's burnt to the GROUND!
And after we accept that we can stare down at the smoldering remains and shed single tear, promising to never forget what it once was. And upon those smoldering remains we shall construct something new! Something with new family dynamics! And perhaps, just maybe, it will be something BETTER! |
| psycho_killer #634131 8 months ago |
@634102 NO! |
| TinTwit #634132 8 months ago |
It's not burnt to the ground, 634102. The Berry/Ruby family dynamic probably is (I will personally continue believing they are mother and daughter), but not the Dinky/Derpy family dynamic.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can take something for more than it is for the sake of getting rid of it. The presence of a sister figure for Dinky proves nothing regarding Derpy. |
| Anonymous #634157 8 months ago |
I agree Tin Twit. I still like the idea of Dinky having a sister though. (Actually, I had a little story idea for awhile about Derpy finding an orphanage of fear and helping out some of the fillies, so this isn't too bad for me....but I'll never write that fanfic) |
| Anonymous #634162 8 months ago |
@TinTwit
Proves nothing so long as we have to build on fanon. How long shall we cling to it? How many convoluted explanations will it take before it falls apart? Just put it out of its misery and let it die. |
| King_Maverick #634178 8 months ago |
@#634162
If people want to keep doing the Dinky/Derpy thing, let them. It doesn't even effect you anyway. Why does it even bother you so much? |
| Kooner #634184 8 months ago |
Hmmm ok this pretty much destoyed it. |
| TinTwit #634186 8 months ago |
Nobody's building on anything! Sparkler being a stand-in here for a sister Dinky never had in fanon to begin with isn't convoluted at all. There's nothing convoluted about Sparkler doing a favor for Derpy. It doesn't change fanon at all; it's just a favor.
This picture proves nothing and it requires no justification. Deal with it. You want to fight to change fanon? Go deal with the Berry/Ruby crowd. That might actually give you a little basis for your arguments. |
| Hellfire #634197 8 months ago |
Deal with it and if you can't, there is a place for that.
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| Anonymous #634208 8 months ago |
@TinTwit
It's not too convoluted as of yet, but it's still something that forces the viewer to make assumptions through a "fanon filter". It sets a terrible precedent, and one that's just not sustainable in the long run. Better to just drop it and start over then to start down the slippery slope. |
| TinTwit #634276 8 months ago |
Actually upon watching the episode again, that wasn't even Ruby with Berry. It was an Earth Pony. :O
Anyway, I don't see why you think seeing one small, perceived deviation from accepted fanon warrants a full restart of the entire thing. It's not like we're going to suddenly create some huge web of interpersonal relationships where everyone is simultaneously best friends, lovers, and related to everyone else. Though now that I wrote it I can see someone writing a fic about it...xD |
| Anonymous #634290 8 months ago |
Maybe the have the same father instead of same mother? |
| Anonymous #634302 8 months ago |
Who said we should restart the whole thing?
But even tearing out one aspect from its roots will result in the whole thing destabilizing. Let this one aspect burn and a few others will get singed as well. But it's worth it to keep our fanon firmly rooted in canon. The rest will likely burn later, let this serve as a reminder that there is nothing sacred about fanon. |
| King_Maverick #634379 8 months ago |
So... does this mean that Dinky herself will now become irrelevant and fade away into obscurity? |
| Anonymous #634397 8 months ago |
@King_Maverick
Not if we don't let her. Sure, I want the fanon to burn, but I don't people to just give up on characters because they have to change them. Of course that may require new fanon made for her sister, but I'm sure Dinky can survive this if we ever truly cared for her. |
| King_Maverick #634399 8 months ago |
Too bad nopony cares about Sparkler. I know I don't. |
| TinTwit #634401 8 months ago |
There's nothing being torn from its roots here. Nothing is being destabilized. Once again: This neither proves nor disproves anything about Dinky's relationship with Derpy. Not a thing. Dinky having a sister does not mean Derpy can't be her mother. That's far more an assumption than anything else. |
| Anonymous #634427 8 months ago |
@King_Maverick
Then they can start. Is that really so hard? Adding one more background pony to the ones we care about shouldn't be a problem. If it is one then the fanon needs to sustain further damage until we can't have anyone struggling to keep everything the same. |
| TinTwit #634431 8 months ago |
If I could draw, I'd so start an Ask Sparkler tumblr. I wouldn't mind adding another pony to the fanon somehow. |
| Anonymous #634445 8 months ago |
[img]http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/1316b41d6af60c42221592eb8f7ba524/24056%20-%20animated%20derpy_hooves%20scream%20underp.gif[img/] |
| Anonymous #634457 8 months ago |
@#634445
It's all Doctor Whooves fault. |
| AetherNite75 #634682 8 months ago |
If you want the fanon to continue, HOW ABOUT WE USE ALL THE CHARACTERS! Can't your imagination stretch farther that that? |
| Anonymous #634807 8 months ago |
Somepony volunteered to enter the competition with Dinky who doesn't have a sister. You know, sister-for-a-day type of thing. |
| MetalHooves #634889 8 months ago |
There is nothing here that implies that Dinky cannot be Derpy's daughter, only that she is Seafoam's sister or close friend.
-Sweetie Belle and AJ aren't related, and they ran together. -Seafoam [that's seafoam, right? looks like her to me...] could be Derpy's older daughter [weak logic] -Seafoam could be a close friend of Derpy's who volunteered to run with Dinky as an "older sister" [best logic] |
| cthulhlu #634900 8 months ago |
^807 that what im going with, as her mom's eye condition was particularly bad that day and she couldnt go with her.
plus theyve allready stated that we can do what ever we like with backround ponys, there just filler |
| Vree #635090 8 months ago |
God, these anti-fanon Anons are such retards.
Guys, fanon will always be contradicted by canon! If people acted like you do and "drop" that stuff there'd be no fanfic, no fanart, and no Ponibooru. Can't your tiny minds comprehend that? |
| MyLittleJosieph #636477 8 months ago |
How exactly does Dinky gaining a Sister equal Derpy not being her Mother? Sure, there's that naggling little detail that Sparkler and Derpy look the same age but considering the ponies age differently than humans and appear to mature at a much faster rate who knows what the age relations are!? |
| Anonymous #645370 8 months ago |
Ditzy and Sparkler are sisters.... Problem solved. But if both Ditzy and her sister competed it would upset the small pony/ big pony team dynamics. I think a few other ponies in the competition aren't sisters either maybe then. |