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Kein
#632031
8 months ago
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Actually, I remember there was a guy who wanted to cerate new, a bit more democratic MLP-wiki, but I haven't seen him in IRC for months already...
Anonymous
#632037
8 months ago
I still think the blind bag ponies should be considered different ponies, since they look different.
isthachakena
#632064
8 months ago
I would also be in favor of a wiki that isn't run by assholes.
Krek
#632066
8 months ago
There has to be a way to petition the MLP Wikia to change the name back to Lyra. Hate it when people always troll out "Oh! Idiot still thinks it's Lyra!"
Dachimotsu
#632074
8 months ago
^I second this. I've always hated the MLP wiki until now.
Anonymous
#632076
8 months ago
The name Lyra should at least appear somewhere as trivia as the original fan name.
Anonymous
#632077
8 months ago
If they do call Derpy Ditzy, is the wiki just gonna expunge all mention of "Derpy"?
NightJack
#632079
8 months ago
lol The posy before this is the same thing.
Anonymous
#632083
8 months ago
Change the name back?

The facts are that she was never actually "Lyra" in the first place. That's all.

Are you really complaining about a wiki not using Fanon as a source?

Really?

They're just using the most accurate source they have available, it's hardly beings an "asshole" or a "troll" to do so.
Tacoworld501
#632087
8 months ago
Let's just take the MLP Wiki.

AND PUSH IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. Then we make a new one to replace it. Problemo solved.
Anonymous
#632090
8 months ago
Why not just change it so it says "Her fanon name before she was given a name by Hasbro was Lyra. It is still used to this day."
Anonymous
#632092
8 months ago
Well I suppose a wiki that purely discusses the Fanon could be useful, but I think that already exists.
Kein
#632096
8 months ago
@632083
I think you missing the point. problem is not that they added Heartstrings as her name, problem is that they removed "Lyra" completely, while other ponies have up to 4 names. Nobody would hurt if Lyra has two names as well, like Lyra/Heartstrings.

Besides, it never was confirmed that the toy of a green pony is the same pony from the show, afaik.
Anonymous
#632112
8 months ago
@Kein
That's only when they're all fan-names. They seem to follow the idea that toys take precedence over fanon but anything on the show trumps all.

They haven't removed all mentions to the name Lyra however, there is still mention of an officially licensed shirt that has the name mentioned on the website.

They have simply removed every mention that has no connection whatsoever to anything official.
Anonymous
#632125
8 months ago
And to add to that...

They have a god-damned link to a fanon wiki with the name Lyra on it! What the hell is everyone complaining about?

They've simply wiped the name "Lyra" from the wiki that's supposed to be based on official information.
Tomaster
#632131
8 months ago
Let me just reach right here into my... banhammer bag.
Vree
#632134
8 months ago
^Considering the chaos that are the toys, I think it's really silly to treat them the same material as the show.
Anonymous
#632156
8 months ago
@Vree

No one does. They just view it as a more official and therefore more proper source then the Fanon is. No one thinks they take precedence over the actual show, or are equal to it in any way.
Anonymous
#632279
8 months ago
OH DAT TROLLESTIA!
Anonymous
#632290
8 months ago
You know, this would be a lot more tolerable, if that pony looked anything like Lyra whatsoever.
Anonymous
#632297
8 months ago
I must admit that between a generally very talented and involved fandom, and a toy company with a marked propensity to not really give a crap about the quality of their own toys...I'm probably gonna go with the fandom.

Still, this entire argument is absurd. Hell, we still frequently call a certain wall-eyed mailmare Derpy even though she was given an actual name. It's not like this changes anything.
Jackarunda
#632303
8 months ago
I tried to fix that once I saw it

BUT THE PAGE IS LOCKED

I don't go to FiMWiki anymore
marioandsonic
#632394
8 months ago
Trollestia strikes again!
Anonymous
#632400
8 months ago
So what happens if she is ever called Heartstrings on the show?
Will there be butthurt, or acceptance?
Anonymous
#632517
8 months ago
^They are the same ponies,you know hasbro,just because they make inaccurate toys doesn't mean those are not still based on them.

Look at Pink Celestia...she's not that pink,but we know is her.

Fluttershy (in the miniature models) is basically Rainbow Dash with Fluttershy's color scheme...But is still Fluttershy.

What about Big Mac? he's the most accurate of the blind bag ponies and even him has some differences with the cartoon version....but is still him.

Now Heartstrings...c'mon,"Lyra",even though I became attached to the name,Lyra is just part of fanon.Yes her toy is Twilight's mold,but the colors and the cutie mark are the same.

Lyra is Heartstrings.
Anonymous
#632524
8 months ago
Amen 517.
Anonymous
#632598
8 months ago
banhamma bag
WildHeart
#632633
8 months ago
^^ Neither. I'll just go on calling her Lyra. Never underestimate pure human stubbornness, my friend.

Heartstrings is a really nice name. I really do like it. But I'm going to call her Lyra because that's been her name to me, and it's still her name to me. Force of habit, and I don't see why I should change my habit when the universe goes on without me acknowledging this new name.

That's one thing I don't get about these naysayers. I can understand why you feel like you have to correct/ridicule bronies who refuse to call her something different on principle. What I don't understand is why it's such a gigantic ass deal.

Some bronies call her Lyra.

That's that, move on. The world is still turning, the sun still rises in the morning, and Oprah Winfrey can't decide whether or not she's fat.
Anonymous
#632794
8 months ago
Hmm, so a toy that has a different mane, different (similar granted, but still different) colours, and a different Mane must be the same pony due to the cutie mark, because, ya know, there's never been anything like a reused cutie mark before.
TinTwit
#632823
8 months ago
I think Lyra Heartstrings is a great full name for her, personally.
TinTwit
#632831
8 months ago
^ My problem is simply the fact that the wiki admins refuse to even acknowledge the fanon names once a "canon" one pops up. Not even a single sentence saying "she is also known by some fans as X". It's a downright ridiculous stance to take.
Anonymous
#632848
8 months ago
^^I know,but in this case,is sadly the truth.(I just need to ask why you repeated "Mane" twice? if you were actually refering to her name,please just remember that her name was never Lyra in the first place)

Lyra,Lyrica and Strings McGee/Harpo may have the same cutie mark,but only "Lyra" shares the(almost)same color scheme as Heartstrngs.Keep in mind that the reason she has Twilight's mane is because they used her mold,probably in order to save money,because,c'mon,why make a highly accurate mold of a background when you can simply use the ones you already have?
Anonymous
#632982
8 months ago
Anonymous said:
They've simply wiped the name "Lyra" from the wiki that's supposed to be based on official information.


Hahaha, their pony list has a ton of names that don't appear anywhere but the wiki. They've taken it upon themselves to make up names for every one-time recolor, but a name people actually use must be completely purged because of toys that have already contradicted the show in the past with "Roseluck" and "Flower Wishes".
Thaluka
#633101
8 months ago
Using the toys are canon material is really dodgy (hello Scootaloo/Applebloom name swap). If she gets called Heartstrings in the actual show that would be fine.
Ferrotter
#633202
8 months ago
Oh come on! Celestia may rape and torture underage blankflanks, but she's not as bad as that.
Aemilius
#633479
8 months ago
@TinTwit

Indeed!
Anonymous
#633496
8 months ago
Oh hey its the same thing that happend with Vinyl Scratch
If you guys want to avoid this bullshit make your own wiki
Although it is kind of funny that they just assume the blindbag pony is the same pony as the tv show pony wheres their source for that
Kein
#638717
8 months ago
@632297
Derpy never was given actual name.
You are one of the lost souls that accepted messed up lie vie 3rd source.
Anonymous
#679876
8 months ago
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Big_Hackint0sh
#685173
8 months ago
@632297: Faust calls her Derpy. That's good enough for me.
Jarntazecht
#1145746
4 months ago
Celestia must have a bag for all her types of trolling.